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post #121 of 653
First rate episode and very entertaining. Only weakness was that they tipped their hand on the School Director being dirty, sort of. Or maybe they wanted us to think he was the murderer only to find out he was a child rapist and one of the kids was the murderer. I have to laugh that they have people on the show saying, "What's the CBI?"
post #122 of 653
"CBI" has to go.
I know in Georgia there is a Georgia Bureau of Investigation (GBI), at least there was the last time I was there. But California has the state Department of Justice which assists rural counties in major crime investigations and investigates cases, urban and rural, where there might be potential conflicts of interest (cops investigating local DA or vice versa).

Why not just call it state Department of Justice? And how about having a few regular cop characters that look older than 26?
post #123 of 653
CBI -

The Bureau of Investigation and Intelligence (BII) identifies major crime trends and initiates complex enforcement and investigative actions. Leadership, expertise, and investigative assistance is provided to law enforcement and sovereign governments in matters requiring the seizure of evidence, interviews of suspects, and other requests from foreign nations that may require investigative support. Investigating the "worst of the worst," including cases involving acts of terrorism, child exploitation, unsolved violent crimes, homicides, officer-involved shootings, and organized crime groups, BII also provides protection to witnesses and family members, conducts criminal investigative analysis, and provides unique forensic and intelligence services to local agencies and the Office of the Attorney General.


It's for real, you know!
post #124 of 653
From Fredfa's "Hot Off The Press" thread:

The 2009-10 Season
CBS unveils fall schedule
Net moves hit 'Mentalist' to Thursdays
By Michael Schneider, Variety - May 20th, 2009

CBS announced a fall 2009 lineup on Wednesday that once again sticks with stability.

Eye isn't known for making many rash moves during the annual spring rite of scheduling, and this year was no exception.

Net's biggest play comes on Thursday, where frosh hit "The Mentalist" will move to the plum slot behind "CSI" for its sophomore run. Move is seen as a way for CBS to attempt to turn the decent player into another solid staple for the net.

"NCIS" continues to kick off the Eye's Tuesday night sked, leading into new spinoff "NCIS: Los Angeles." That's a night CBS is especially bullish on, now that all three of its major competitors are airing reality from 8 p.m. to 10 p.m.

And as expected, "Medium" suffered a very short-lived cancellation, as CBS - which produces the show anyway - moves it to Friday, next to the like-minded "Ghost Whisperer."

New comedy "Accidentally on Purpose," starring Jenna Elfman, ends up on Mondays behind "How I Met Your Mother," which once again kicks off Monday, as it did earlier in its run. As for the new dramas, besides the "NCIS" spinoff, there's also "The Good Wife," which winds up on Tuesdays and "Three Rivers," which will run on Sundays. New Bruckheimer drama "Miami Trauma" will hold for midseason.

Here's a look at CBS' fall schedule:

Monday

8 p.m. - "How I Met Your Mother"
8:30 p.m. - "Accidentally on Purpose" (new comedy)
9 p.m. - "Two and a Half Men"
9:30 p.m. - "The Big Bang Theory"
10 p.m. - "CSI: Miami"

Tuesday

8 p.m. - "NCIS"
9 p.m. - "NCIS: Los Angeles"
10 p.m. - "The Good Wife" (new drama)

Wednesday

8 p.m. - "The New Adventures of Old Christine"
8:30 p.m. - "Gary Unmarried"
9 p.m. - "Criminal Minds"
10 p.m. - "CSI: NY"

Thursday

8 p.m. - "Survivor"
9 p.m. - "CSI: Crime Scene Investigation"
10 p.m. - "The Mentalist"

Friday

8 p.m. - "Ghost Whisperer"
9 p.m. - "Medium"
10 p.m. - "Numbers"

Saturday

8 p.m. - Drama repeats
9 p.m. - Drama repeats
10 p.m. - "48 Hours Investigations"

Sunday

7 p.m. - "60 Minutes"
8 p.m. - "The Amazing Race"
9 p.m. - "Three Rivers" (new drama)
10 p.m. - "Cold Case"

http://www.variety.com/article/VR111...goryid=14&cs=1
post #125 of 653
Well good. I can turn over from 30 Rock (assuming they leave it where it was).
post #126 of 653
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Originally Posted by High_Def View Post

CBI -

The Bureau of Investigation and Intelligence (BII) identifies major crime trends and initiates complex enforcement and investigative actions. Leadership, expertise, and investigative assistance is provided to law enforcement and sovereign governments in matters requiring the seizure of evidence, interviews of suspects, and other requests from foreign nations that may require investigative support. Investigating the "worst of the worst," including cases involving acts of terrorism, child exploitation, unsolved violent crimes, homicides, officer-involved shootings, and organized crime groups, BII also provides protection to witnesses and family members, conducts criminal investigative analysis, and provides unique forensic and intelligence services to local agencies and the Office of the Attorney General.


It's for real, you know!

Yeah. In other words a bureaucratic agency under the arm of the California Department of Justice. And considering our state's budget mess, soon to be out of business.
post #127 of 653
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Originally Posted by Shaded Dogfood View Post

Well good. I can turn over from 30 Rock (assuming they leave it where it was).


Not really, will be competing Vs. Jay Leno, Private Practice and.. that' s pretty much it...

Nice season finale, I almost tought that Sheriff guy was Red John when he was doing the voices...

Weird how "the mentalist" goes mental when it's about Red John...
post #128 of 653
Does anyone know what the killer said before he died in last night's episode (11/18/10)? I replayed it 5 times and couldn't understand what he was saying.
post #129 of 653
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Originally Posted by mikeewing View Post

Does anyone know what the killer said before he died in last night's episode (11/18/10)? I replayed it 5 times and couldn't understand what he was saying.

Yes please...here was a dramatic moment which effected Jane deeply...I had no idea what he said and I turned it up 10dbs and still couldn't tell.
post #130 of 653
I used the closed captioning to get it myself, he said, "tiger, tiger', which I believe is something Red John said to Jane when he captured him last season. It's a line from a William Blake poem.

Quote:


TIGER, tiger, burning bright
In the forests of the night,
What immortal hand or eye
Could frame thy fearful symmetry?

In what distant deeps or skies 5
Burnt the fire of thine eyes?
On what wings dare he aspire?
What the hand dare seize the fire?

And what shoulder and what art
Could twist the sinews of thy heart? 10
And when thy heart began to beat,
What dread hand and what dread feet?

What the hammer? what the chain?
In what furnace was thy brain?
What the anvil? What dread grasp 15
Dare its deadly terrors clasp?

When the stars threw down their spears,
And water'd heaven with their tears,
Did He smile His work to see?
Did He who made the lamb make thee? 20

Tiger, tiger, burning bright
In the forests of the night,
What immortal hand or eye
Dare frame thy fearful symmetry?
post #131 of 653
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Originally Posted by keenan View Post

I used the closed captioning to get it myself, he said, "tiger, tiger', which I believe is something Red John said to Jane when he captured him last season. It's a line from a William Blake poem.

Well, that's about as obscure as you can get.

Great show. I like the standalone episodes and they still reference the underlying Red John arc.
post #132 of 653
Interesting composition of that shot too, with the face done wrapped up in white leaving two red eyes and a red slash of a mouth - aka the Red John signature.

At least that's what I got from it anyway.

The cryptic final words that's too hard for the audience to make out - bit of a mistake. And it's been done before but I can't call it to mind at the moment.
post #133 of 653
Yeah was Tiger Tiger, wasn't Jane remembering what Red John said to him during the episode? I heard the poem line there that ended with "Symmetry"

Also big hint, the guy ignited himself somehow (or maybe even Red John did it), thus the "burning bright" reference..

Pretty nice "Enterprise" reunion there...
post #134 of 653
Did he light himself? It's a good question. I remember in the first season they seemed to point at Red John somehow being either in law enforcement, or somebody with access inside the law enforcement loop.

And yes the Enterprise guys were fun to see. John Billingsley is everywhere it seems. I'm surprised that Connor Trinneer (Trip) hasn't landed somewhere more permanent although he did have a reoccurring role on SGA.
post #135 of 653
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Originally Posted by AAF View Post

Did he light himself? It's a good question. I remember in the first season they seemed to point at Red John somehow being either in law enforcement, or somebody with access inside the law enforcement loop.

And yes the Enterprise guys were fun to see. John Billingsley is everywhere it seems. I'm surprised that Connor Trinneer (Trip) hasn't landed somewhere more permanent although he did have a reoccurring role on SGA.

Trinner seems to pop in different shows, usually as a cop or bad guy. He was one of the better characters on Enterprise (T'Pol being the best, for many reasons!)
post #136 of 653
With next week being the season finale and the fact they teased that Jane will finally come face to face with Red John, I'm predicting that Van Pelt's fiancee will either be Red John or will be the person inside that set that one guy on fire.
post #137 of 653
There have been hints that Teresa Lisbon is Red John. I hope not. It would be a big letdown for a likeable character to turn out to really be evil.
post #138 of 653
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Originally Posted by Desert Hawk View Post

There have been hints that Teresa Lisbon is Red John. I hope not. It would be a big letdown for a likeable character to turn out to really be evil.

What hints?
post #139 of 653
A preview said something about Red John and then showed Patrick asking Teresa if she is really the person he thinks he knew.
post #140 of 653
If it turns out being Lisbon I'll stop watching as though it may be a great lot twist it would be out of character for Lisbon and it would not be the same .. One thing I really enjoy on TM is the Lisbon/Jane relationship and find it the most interesting so having Lisbon as the mole would not be cool at all !!
post #141 of 653
agreed.
post #142 of 653
Yeah... I highly doubt it will be Lisbon. That would be suicide for the show.
post #143 of 653
Technically self-defense?

Now THAT was a cliffhanger. Satisfying, but creating a lot of new questions.
post #144 of 653
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Technically self-defense?

Now THAT was a cliffhanger. Satisfying, but creating a lot of new questions.

Like how does a killer as brilliant, egotistical, and connected as Red John make himself such an easy target for Jane? Brad Whitfield was not RJ. Bruno Heller said revealing Red John is a series ender not a season ender. Excellent episode. I get bored with the non RJ centric episodes. No way the show survives with Red John being dead. Looking forward to season 4.
post #145 of 653
Still in shock. For those of us that are huge fans and watch our DVD's over and over again... I don't know what to say. I'm more impressed because this 2 parter was so much better than the finale of my other favourite broadcast drama; Criminal Minds was a bore last night.

After picking up my jaw from the floor...

- Was that really Red John? Seems like he wouldn't 'give up' that easily.
- I dislike people who come onto blogs and talk about relationships instead of the plot, but I've got to do it here. These 2 episodes were confirmation that the Lisbon-Jane dynamic is the best of all broadcast dramas by FAR, though some still scream that she is 'horribly miscast'. I would dislike if this was compromised by Jane spending time in jail. Then again, he must face some consqeuence. We'll see what happens.
post #146 of 653
^^^^^^
why would he?
RJ had a gun!

They will go on without the RJ theme until ratings suffer and then maybe bring him back.
post #147 of 653
I enjoyed the season finale very much.
Glad to see Jane finally get Red John, About time.
For me it was painful to see Jane so 'tortured' with
his inability to get him.

Kind of like it taking our govt ten years to get bin laden
post #148 of 653
Yeah but Red John has many minions, I won't be surprised if someone takes over..

I think only Red John knew about Jane's Wife and Child and the strawberries and cream stuff..
post #149 of 653
I also enjoyed the finale. As for if it really was Red John. The show is built around the premise of Jane's intuition and ability to read people and situations. To have that fail him last night would undermine his credibility and the premise of the show.

I suppose it could be said he was to close to the situation and wanted him to be Red John so much he succumbed to emotion rather then his normal process.

If it was Red John, that finale was more like a final episode of a series, not just a season. I hope not as this is pretty much my favorite show. If it wasn't Red John, I hope they come up with a good explanation (better then mine above) for why he screwed up.
post #150 of 653
yeah I doubt that was really Red John-too easy. If it was, there would be little point to continuing the show.
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