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post #331 of 642
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Originally Posted by BoilerJim View Post

Yes, but the bigger clue was that Lorelei's sister wrote the name "Roy" just before she died. Was "Roy" a complete name or was she trying write a longer word with the first three letters R-O-Y-? As for Patrick shaking hands with Red John, remember that in just the previous episode he shook hands with the new Homeland Security guy. I'm sure there have been others.

But there's no way for Lorelei to have known that . . .
post #332 of 642
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Originally Posted by WS65711 View Post

But there's no way for Lorelei to have known that . . .
BS. If she can get broken out of prison, she could also hear anything Red John wants to tell her. We don't know how much time elapsed between the handshake on last week's episode and her breaking out of prison on this week's episode. I will admit that the handshake Lorelei referred to may have been at another time and from another person, but having been an Internal Auditor for most of my working career, I still say "BS" to your statement. You'd be amazed at the things I've seen and how naive some people are. I question EVERYTHING! smile.gif
post #333 of 642
From the Wiki

Roy Tagliaferro

While in a relationship with Rosalind Harker, Red John called himself "Roy Tagliaferro", the surname meaning "cut iron" in Italian. The name "Roy" derived by a Gaelic word that means "red".

In "Red Is the New Black", Red John visited Rosalind under this same alias. Interestingly, once Jane arrives, Rosalind seems to be hypnotized as she keeps playing the piano without ever acknowledging the FBI or Patrick Jane.
post #334 of 642
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Originally Posted by DrLar View Post

From the Wiki
Roy Tagliaferro
While in a relationship with Rosalind Harker, Red John called himself "Roy Tagliaferro", the surname meaning "cut iron" in Italian. The name "Roy" derived by a Gaelic word that means "red".
In "Red Is the New Black", Red John visited Rosalind under this same alias. Interestingly, once Jane arrives, Rosalind seems to be hypnotized as she keeps playing the piano without ever acknowledging the FBI or Patrick Jane.
Wow, thanks for the info regarding the name "Roy." I guess I watch too much TV to remember every detail about every show. Thank Heaven for sites like Wikipedia. So, the question remains, could the Homeland Security guy be Red John?
post #335 of 642
Lorelei knows Red John is a killer, taking life whenever he sees fit to do so. She accepts it because as a devoted follower, she believes him to be a superior being to everyone else, with the intellectual authority and wisdom that few or none other possess.

So why she would be incredulous that he might have also chosen to have killed her sister as well, I'm not sure I buy that. A more likely reaction might be that she would have told Patrick that if Red John did indeed kill her sister, his reason must have been very good.

Then again, if an aspect of her indoctrination involved him telling her that he would never lie to her, no matter how ugly or painful the truth was, then killing her sister and not telling her about it might throw her off and begin to question things.
post #336 of 642
Jane's got his list of Red John suspects down to only 400 names. Anyone still watching? eek.gif
post #337 of 642
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Originally Posted by WS65711 View Post

Jane's got his list of Red John suspects down to only 400 names. Anyone still watching? eek.gif
I still watch every new episode. smile.gif
post #338 of 642
I'm down to 2 names, Haffner and Cooper

Although Haffner is the right age if RJ was young when he drew the smiley face (and probably killed the other 2)

Jane has shaken both their hands and both related to Visualize and the farm.

Seems very suspicious that Haffner wants to place Lisbon away from the CBI when they are closing in to RJ

Also Ray almost sounds like Roy LOL
post #339 of 642
Still watching, but don't figure to get a resolution to the Red John tease until the very last episode. Has the show been canceled yet?
post #340 of 642
I'm still watching and no I haven't heard anything about it being cancelled, I hope not I like it smile.gif
post #341 of 642
We still love this show and watch every week. I think it is pretty amazing that they have been able to keep the Red John storyline going for so long without it bogging down the weekly cases.
post #342 of 642
We're also still watching.

Jane and Cho still make me laugh.
Right up there with the Red John clues is I'm wondering when Rigsby will get out of her chair
post #343 of 642
Van Pelt is Red John .. Big Red... so obvious LOL wink.gif.
Edited by rebkell - 1/29/13 at 9:46pm
post #344 of 642
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Originally Posted by David James View Post

We're also still watching.

Jane and Cho still make me laugh.
Right up there with the Red John clues is I'm wondering when Rigsby will get out of her chair

Not till well after she has her child. She just gave birth 2-weeks ago (a boy), and I'm sure recent episodes had already been shot.
Edited by domino92024 - 1/29/13 at 10:28pm
post #345 of 642
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Originally Posted by David James View Post

We're also still watching.

Jane and Cho still make me laugh.
Right up there with the Red John clues is I'm wondering when Rigsby will get out of her chair
Rigsby gets out of HIS chair all the time... Grace Van Pelt (the pregnant redhead) is the one who's been in HER chair all season. rolleyes.gif
post #346 of 642
LOL - Thanks Jim - you can see the impact those two characters have on me.
post #347 of 642
Amanda has a lot of weight to loose before she does any full shots. IMO. The shots from behind her while sitting show that pregnancy has truly packed on the pounds.
Grace had some interesting lines regarding Visionary in the last episode. She has obviously become a deciple, so I suspect her membership could become a part of the larger Red John arc.
post #348 of 642
My question about the last episode is why was the daughter charged at all since it seems to be justifiable homicide (typical judgement for self-defense), not manslaughter.
post #349 of 642
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Originally Posted by DrLar View Post

I'm down to 2 names, Haffner and Cooper

And who is Cooper again?
post #350 of 642
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Originally Posted by CruelInventions View Post

And who is Cooper again?
How soon we forget... http://thementalist.wikia.com/wiki/Jason_Cooper
post #351 of 642
For a while I've been leaning toward Red John being one of two people.

I think it's either J.J. LaRoche or Van Pelt.
post #352 of 642
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Originally Posted by Tom Imp View Post

For a while I've been leaning toward Red John being one of two people.

I think it's either J.J. LaRoche or Van Pelt.
LaRoche, maybe. But how can it be Van Pelt? Didn't the one blind lady piano player live with Red John for awhile? Was she lying to Jane when she talked about how nice HE (Red John) was? I guess Grace could be Red John, but she'd need a bunch of support people around her which Red John apparently has. It just gets curiouser and curiouser. confused.gif
post #353 of 642
Aside from Amanda Righetti being hot and nice to look at, her character really doesn't add much to the show.

While it may be a long shot, I could see the writers going that direction as a huge swerve that no one saw coming.
post #354 of 642
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Originally Posted by Tom Imp View Post

Aside from Amanda Righetti being hot and nice to look at, her character really doesn't add much to the show.

While it may be a long shot, I could see the writers going that direction as a huge swerve that no one saw coming.
I agree. After all of this time, when they finally do reveal "his" identity I hope we can look back and put the pieces together and that "he" has appeared before. How about Jane's "mentalist" rival from back in the early days of the show?
post #355 of 642
If the farm killings are not a false lead, they would place Red John too far back in time to mesh with Van Pelt who is much too young. As I recall, the farm killings were in 1988. Besides, her interest with the cult was sparked by her involvement during recent investigations.
post #356 of 642
IDK one of Red John's minions almost marries Van Pelt and also almost kills her... why on Earth will she follow him at all?
post #357 of 642
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Originally Posted by Distorted View Post

If the farm killings are not a false lead, they would place Red John too far back in time to mesh with Van Pelt who is much too young. As I recall, the farm killings were in 1988. Besides, her interest with the cult was sparked by her involvement during recent investigations.

+1
post #358 of 642
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Originally Posted by jabbathespud View Post

My question about the last episode is why was the daughter charged at all since it seems to be justifiable homicide (typical judgement for self-defense), not manslaughter.
"Charged" is often something confusing to people. Charged doesn't mean you'll necessarilly be held over for trial. It just means that an act has been committed and the police think you did it. It's then up to the D.A. to decide whether to pursue a case or not, and, if so, what the charge will be. If that occurs, you are then placed in custody pending your hearing.

However, just bringing someone in for questioning doesn't mean they've been arrested. They can be a witness, a person of interest or a suspect.

In this case, an act had been committed and she was brought in for questioning. At that point, it was determined she did, in fact, shoot someone. Normally, shooting someone is a crime, except in rare cases. It's not up to the police to decide if the case falls under those exceptions, so they make the arrest.

When what appears to be a crime is committed and someone is arrested, there has to be a charge. Even that doesn't mean your case will be heard. First, the D.A. has to decide whether to prosecute or not. Next, there has to be a hearing where you will be told of the charges made against you, you get to enter a plea and the judge will also determine if there is sufficient cause to go to trial. Should there be cause, bail will be either set or denied (though recommendations for bail can sometimes be heard at another time).

Now, certainly, the police have a certain amount of leeway to not make an arrest, however, in these cases, they usually do and refer it to the D.A. At that point, the investigating officer can offer input on how to proceed based on their interactions with the "suspect". Because the courts are often overloaded with cases, if a cop recommends not pursuing the case, it's likely they won't.

It should also be pointed out that there's also a difference between "arrested" and "detained". Most people are "detained" until charged. Even having your rights read doesn't mean you've been arrested. It just means they are informing you of those rights prior to questioning you. You can be detained for a full day before they have to either arrest you on a charge or release you.
Edited by NetworkTV - 1/31/13 at 9:10am
post #359 of 642
Whoever it ends up being, I honestly don't think we'll know until they decide this show is coming to an end.

I fully expect by this season's end for Jane to think he's narrowed it down, only to find out he was wrong again.
post #360 of 642
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Originally Posted by BoilerJim View Post

How soon we forget... http://thementalist.wikia.com/wiki/Jason_Cooper

I barely recall main cast member names much of the time, let alone occasional characters. tongue.gif
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