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post #4921 of 9499
2/24/09 at 6:32am
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Originally Posted by Toe Tag View Post

On Vista, I dragged a BR backup folder (I had downloaded it, and it was likely created with AnyDVD in the first place) onto TMT, and it played the full BD, including the DTS-HD master audio, and there was definitely no AnyDVD on the playback HTPC.

One other tip: we had a situation where the audio wasn't playing at all. Not only does video have to be running into the Xonar HDAV 1.3 card, but it has to be at 720p or 1080 resolution. I wish ASUS would make the card less strict.

All the strict shenanigans (firmware upgrades, requiring video, requiring video at 1080/720 specific hardware for PAP) wreaks of the MPAA making very strict stipulations on ASUS. It seems like they didn't have a choice when they released the card. If they weren't in compliance, I'm sure that movie industry would have pressured the card to be put on the HDCP blacklist.

Whenever a company releases some card with really stringent environmental requirements, it's probably due to DRM. Blame it on the movie industry.
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post #4922 of 9499
2/24/09 at 7:29am
Can't agree more...

But the no-audio-unless-720-or-1920 is really from HDMI definition...

If you've seen the definitions of HDMI, you find it's written in it that only certain resolution is allowed to work, all other resolution is considered PC/DVI resolution, hence no audio is allowed to pass....
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post #4923 of 9499
2/24/09 at 8:49am
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Originally Posted by lilohtpc View Post

Can't agree more...

But the no-audio-unless-720-or-1920 is really from HDMI definition...

If you've seen the definitions of HDMI, you find it's written in it that only certain resolution is allowed to work, all other resolution is considered PC/DVI resolution, hence no audio is allowed to pass....

I think it's because Blu-Ray has it's own specs (just so happen to coincide with HDMI's specs):
1920x1080 59.94-i, 50-i 16:9
1920x1080 24-p, 23.976-p 16:9
1440x1080 59.94-i, 50-i 16:9 MPEG-4 AVC / SMPTE VC-1 only
1440x1080 24-p, 23.976-p 16:9 MPEG-4 AVC / SMPTE VC-1 only
1280x720 59.94-p, 50-p 16:9
1280x720 24-p, 23.976-p 16:9
720x480 59.94-i 4:3/16:9
720x576 50-i 4:3/16:9

Perhaps it's checking on the source resolution of the disc, and the actual resolution from the HDMI input to compare?
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post #4924 of 9499
2/24/09 at 12:12pm
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Originally Posted by AbMagFab View Post

(And I'd be surprised if most people are building HTPC's for the primary purpose of playing physical BD's. You could buy a much better and much cheaper BD player. The main reason people build a HTPC for BD playback is to rip BD's, right? But I could be way off here, it would be surprising though.)

I suspect this is why you and I have such a different viewpoint. I have no interest in archiving BDs on my HTPC; I just want to stick a disk in and play it. I do not want to buy a standalone player for all sorts of rational and irrational reasons.

So I guess you must be surprised.
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post #4925 of 9499
2/24/09 at 12:17pm
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I suspect this is why you and I have such a different viewpoint. I have no interest in archiving BDs on my HTPC; I just want to stick a disk in and play it. I do not want to buy a standalone player for all sorts of rational and irrational reasons.

So I guess you must be surprised.

Most of them are irrational, since stand alones are cheaper and work correctly, need fewer updates.

But I do like the uncluttered one remote usage of the HTPC, but without archiving it's almost all negatives.
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post #4926 of 9499
2/24/09 at 12:30pm
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Originally Posted by sotti View Post

Most of them are irrational, since stand alones are cheaper and work correctly, need fewer updates.

But I do like the uncluttered one remote usage of the HTPC, but without archiving it's almost all negatives.

Hey! Speak for yourself! I have at least two rational reasons for using an HTPC to play Blu-Ray disks...

Hmm... now what were they again?

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post #4927 of 9499
2/24/09 at 12:31pm
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Originally Posted by myAV View Post

I got a positive answer today.The slim card will be released in about two weeks here in Taiwan while overseas release has been scheduled towards the end of March(3rd week). Asus is waiting for Arcsoft to finish up final testing and debugging.

Any word on pricing?
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post #4928 of 9499
2/24/09 at 1:44pm
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Originally Posted by myAV View Post

I got a positive answer today.The slim card will be released in about two weeks here in Taiwan while overseas release has been scheduled towards the end of March(3rd week). Asus is waiting for Arcsoft to finish up final testing and debugging.

Wonderful news, thanks myAV, really appreciate the efforts.
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post #4929 of 9499
2/24/09 at 4:18pm
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Originally Posted by myAV View Post

I got a positive answer today.The slim card will be released in about two weeks here in Taiwan while overseas release has been scheduled towards the end of March(3rd week). Asus is waiting for Arcsoft to finish up final testing and debugging.


myAV, could you please ask ASUS to fix Nvidia/TMT 24hz skipping and locate the problem.

It seems to be TMT because PowerDVD does not do it.
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post #4930 of 9499
2/24/09 at 4:31pm
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Originally Posted by xgecko View Post

I suspect this is why you and I have such a different viewpoint. I have no interest in archiving BDs on my HTPC; I just want to stick a disk in and play it. I do not want to buy a standalone player for all sorts of rational and irrational reasons.

So I guess you must be surprised.

+1 and listen to HD audio.
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post #4931 of 9499
2/24/09 at 5:36pm
Just bought the Xonar HDAV1.3 Deluxe yesterday that comes with the bundled TMT. After installation of the hardware and software, tried to open the TMT but nothing happens.

Any advise is appreciated.
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post #4932 of 9499
2/24/09 at 5:51pm
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Originally Posted by Gideon View Post

Just bought the Xonar HDAV1.3 Deluxe yesterday that comes with the bundled TMT. After installation of the hardware and software, tried to open the TMT but nothing happens.

Any advise is appreciated.

Hey, can you post your HTPC system specs. Will definitely help members figure out your issue.
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post #4933 of 9499
2/24/09 at 6:14pm
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Originally Posted by myAV View Post

I got a positive answer today.The slim card will be released in about two weeks here in Taiwan while overseas release has been scheduled towards the end of March(3rd week). Asus is waiting for Arcsoft to finish up final testing and debugging.

Thanks for the info. Could you get confirmation as to whether the card is PCI-E or PCI? I still find it hard to believe they'd be releasing a PCI card at this point, but you never know.
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post #4934 of 9499
2/24/09 at 7:28pm
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Originally Posted by jojoxl View Post

Thanks for the info. Could you get confirmation as to whether the card is PCI-E or PCI? I still find it hard to believe they'd be releasing a PCI card at this point, but you never know.

I'm curious: I thought some people were holding out for the slim card because it has 24p. Now that the 2009 versions of the original Xonar do 24p, what's the appeal for the new card?

Also is it safe to assume most of the issues people are still having at 24p? I ask 'cause while 24p would be a nice feature for the future, my TV only does 60, not 24 So if I won't the bulk of these problems, perhaps the 2009 version will be fine for me...

Also no thoughts on the need of the DVI detective? For some reason, every afternoon when I get home, more times than not, the computer complains of a unexpected restart. I think it's a bluescreen and I think it's coming from the ATI driver when the TV is off..
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post #4935 of 9499
2/24/09 at 8:42pm
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Originally Posted by hceuterpe View Post

I'm curious: I thought some people were holding out for the slim card because it has 24p. Now that the 2009 versions of the original Xonar do 24p, what's the appeal for the new card?

Also is it safe to assume most of the issues people are still having at 24p? I ask 'cause while 24p would be a nice feature for the future, my TV only does 60, not 24 So if I won't the bulk of these problems, perhaps the 2009 version will be fine for me...

Also no thoughts on the need of the DVI detective? For some reason, every afternoon when I get home, more times than not, the computer complains of a unexpected restart. I think it's a bluescreen and I think it's coming from the ATI driver when the TV is off..

A bit off topic but do you happen to be running or have hotspot shield installed?
That would be trestarting your comp and bsod'ing
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post #4936 of 9499
2/24/09 at 8:47pm
Any news on:

1. VMC Plugin
2. HD-DVD audio (LPCM is fine) out while HDMI is selected (eg. no need to change the configuration to play both BR and HD-DVD)
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post #4937 of 9499
2/24/09 at 10:03pm
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Originally Posted by evilstuie View Post

A bit off topic but do you happen to be running or have hotspot shield installed?
That would be trestarting your comp and bsod'ing

Hate to be blunt, but wtf is Hotspot shield?? It sounds like a junk/spyware app.
All the other BSOD I got in the early ATI drivers all stemmed the atidm something something component. i guess it's time to bring the Windows debugger and dig deep. The event logs show no issues, but IIRC BSOD dumps are stored elsewhere.
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post #4938 of 9499
2/25/09 at 3:50am
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Originally Posted by cybrsage View Post

HDMI audio is slipped between HDMI video frames. To pass audio, you must have video (at least a blank video stream). I am not sure if the HDAV will generate its own blank video or not.

What you do it take the HDMI output from your video card and plug it into the HDMI input on the HDAV sound card. If your video card also produces sound, you should turn that off. The HDAV adds the sound to the video, process it via the SplendedHD engine (if you want it to - it can be turned off) and outputs through the HDMI output on the sound card.

Could someone tell me now if sound can be played through HDAV hdmi port while having video displayed through video card ?
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post #4939 of 9499
2/25/09 at 4:13am
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Originally Posted by cybrsage View Post

EDIT: Or if the movie is from a different region. In that case, simply strip the protection, verify the stripped ISO / Folder works withou ANyDVD HD running and you never need AnyDVD HD again to play it.

What do you mean ?
I have some bd rip that i can't play because off region problem. Is there a solution ?

Cyril
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post #4940 of 9499
2/25/09 at 4:43am
If you are in the UK DO NOT buy this card or any other Asus product. They have no concept of customer service - other than charging you for bad service.

I asked Asus how to RMA an '08 card and they initially said via the reseller. I queried this as it was going to take too long so they then said RMA via Creetive Computing for which there is a charge of £16. I was willing to ship the card anywhere in Europe but Asus were insistent this was not an option.

Creative Computing do nothing with the cards but wait until they have a sufficeintly large batch of them. It is unclear whether this will take one or two weeks or longer. They then ship the cards to the Czech Republic where the firmware upgrade is done - presumbaly by a student or a migrant from a former Soviet republic earning around €2 per hour. Turnaround of the card back to Creative Computing is 21 - 28 days. The card is then shipped back to the owner at their leisure.

I will be selling this card once it is returned.

PC
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post #4941 of 9499
2/25/09 at 5:11am
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Originally Posted by hceuterpe View Post

I'm curious: I thought some people were holding out for the slim card because it has 24p. Now that the 2009 versions of the original Xonar do 24p, what's the appeal for the new card?..

1. Price?
2. Security of having a new firmware while bying online?
3. PCI slot?
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post #4942 of 9499
2/25/09 at 5:16am
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Originally Posted by cyrilp View Post

What do you mean ?
I have some bd rip that i can't play because off region problem. Is there a solution ?

Cyril

Yes, there is a solution. Go to www.slysoft.com and purchase AnyDVD HD.
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post #4943 of 9499
2/25/09 at 5:17am
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Originally Posted by jpnn80 View Post

Could someone tell me now if sound can be played through HDAV hdmi port while having video displayed through video card ?

The specs for HDMI say that video MUST be sent with sound in order for sound to be sent at all.

That said, you can send video out the video card to both the TV and the HDAV (you need a splitter or a two output video card) and then send the HDAV output to your AVR.

This allows video to go to your TV while both video and sound goes to the AVR, which you then only use the sound from.
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post #4944 of 9499
2/25/09 at 6:33am
I just received the following email exactly one week after I sent my Xonar to them:

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Dear Sir or Madam,
Your product shipped out today.
Infomation
Customer Rathbone
RMA# XXXXXXXX
Repair Center ACZ
Shipping carrier DHL
Tracking#

If you have any concern or opinion, please kindly inform us, thanks.

Best Regards,

ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.



Asus support seems to work quite well here in Germany
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post #4945 of 9499
2/25/09 at 6:57am
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Originally Posted by cybrsage View Post

Any news on:

1. VMC Plugin
2. HD-DVD audio (LPCM is fine) out while HDMI is selected (eg. no need to change the configuration to play both BR and HD-DVD)

Asus knows about the VMC issue, there is a great possibility that this will be added with a later update, but HD-DVD = R.I.P
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post #4946 of 9499
2/25/09 at 7:01am
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Originally Posted by cybrsage View Post

Yes, there is a solution. Go to www.slysoft.com and purchase AnyDVD HD.

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post #4947 of 9499
2/25/09 at 7:03am
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Originally Posted by myAV View Post

Asus knows about the VMC issue, there is a great possibility that this will be added with a later update, but HD-DVD = R.I.P

@cybrsage:
So rip and FLAC them, nothing else left to do.
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post #4948 of 9499
2/25/09 at 7:09am
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Originally Posted by arttext View Post

1. Price?
2. Security of having a new firmware while bying online?
3. PCI slot?

1) well cheaper is better
2) Have we in fact confirmed the "future versions' firmware will be user upgradeable" to imply the slim card being this future version?
3) The PCI/PCIe for me would be a toss up, really

I don't recall outstanding issues requiring firmware upgrades still pending, and most if not all were software/driver related. No?
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post #4949 of 9499
2/25/09 at 7:59am
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Originally Posted by myAV View Post

Asus knows about the VMC issue, there is a great possibility that this will be added with a later update, but HD-DVD = R.I.P

Great myAV! VMC is a necessary feature. HD-DVD is not! No matter what anyone says.

Please let us know as soon as the Slim line card hits the shelves. If we could get a picture of the box and the card itself that would be cool as well.
Great job as always! Man I love my ASUS HDAV Deluxe!
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post #4950 of 9499
2/25/09 at 2:14pm
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Originally Posted by myAV View Post

Asus knows about the VMC issue, there is a great possibility that this will be added with a later update, but HD-DVD = R.I.P

myAV, could you please ask ASUS to fix Nvidia/TMT 24hz skipping and locate the problem.

It seems to be TMT because PowerDVD does not do it.
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