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post #5131 of 9491
The Deluxe I ordered from NewEgg on Monday arrived today, and its serial number begins with a 9. Haven't had a chance to install it yet.
post #5132 of 9491
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Originally Posted by Davinleeds View Post

Confused? I have two, standard and deluxe. I rma'd the standard, upon return mated

the standard with the daughter card and now will send the deluxe for rma. I

didn't want leave myself "lossless"

post #5133 of 9491
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Originally Posted by Davinleeds View Post

Confused? I have two, standard and deluxe. I rma'd the standard, upon return mated

the standard with the daughter card and now will send the deluxe for rma. I

didn't want leave myself "lossless"

Actually you didn't want to leave yourself compressed!
post #5134 of 9491
I sent my SN 8 card back to New Egg ill let everyone know if they return a SN 9
post #5135 of 9491
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Originally Posted by omarty View Post

I sent my SN 8 card back to New Egg ill let everyone know if they return a SN 9


When did you purchase the card from Newegg? Based on your earlier posts it looks like the end of January. Is ths correcct?
post #5136 of 9491
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Originally Posted by carrera1 View Post

When did you purchase the card from Newegg? Based on your earlier posts it looks like the end of January. Is ths correcct?

I purchased from NewEgg midJanuary and it was an 8 card.
post #5137 of 9491
Is Asus about to release a new or replace the HDAV1.3?
post #5138 of 9491
By the way, I cannot play PowerDVD9Ultra when I use ASUS HDAV1,3...
I can use PowerDVD9Ultra when I uninstall ASUS HDAV1,3.
Is there a person of the same symptom?
A video card is ATI HD 4870.
post #5139 of 9491
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Originally Posted by mpgxsvcd View Post

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2#post15242282

If this was a sticky you wouldn't have had to ask here.

Just PM'd David Bott and asked him to do just that. Thanks for the link, BTW.
post #5140 of 9491
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Originally Posted by WROM View Post

By the way, I cannot play PowerDVD9Ultra when I use ASUS HDAV1,3...
I can use PowerDVD9Ultra when I uninstall ASUS HDAV1,3.
Is there a person of the same symptom?
A video card is ATI HD 4870.

Kill HSMGR and HSMGR64 processes in task manager then PowerDVD 9 should work. The Xonar EAX emulation driver interferes with PDVD.
post #5141 of 9491
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Originally Posted by William View Post

Is Asus about to release a new or replace the HDAV1.3?

The HDMI only slim card is coming in a few weeks. Rumor has it that the non-Deluxe model of the HDAV1.3 may be discontinued. Those are the only new developments.
post #5142 of 9491
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Originally Posted by jojoxl View Post

The HDMI only slim card is coming in a few weeks. Rumor has it that the non-Deluxe model of the HDAV1.3 may be discontinued. Those are the only new developments.

So the HDMI slim will likely be the same card sans circuitry and connection pins for the analog daughter card?
post #5143 of 9491
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Originally Posted by William View Post

So the HDMI slim will likely be the same card sans circuitry and connection pins for the analog daughter card?

Yeah, that's the general speculation here and 24p of course.
post #5144 of 9491
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Originally Posted by William View Post

So the HDMI slim will likely be the same card sans circuitry and connection pins for the analog daughter card?

Yes, though it's looking like it will be a PCI card, not PCI Express like the HDAV1.3 is. Not 100% confirmed yet, but I wouldn't be against it.
post #5145 of 9491
Well figured out what was causing my 5.1 channels to get messed up (rear channels blending into one another). If I enable the "DS3D GX" option, and restart my video players, I seem to get 5.1 channels perfectly in speaker tests, no mixing of channels.

Anyone know why this might be the case, and why this setting isn't enabled by default... It seems to upmix stereo to 5.1 also. What do you guys think of the upmixing?

Current settings for DVD movie and music playback are "Hi-Fi" enabled to keep original sound intact and "DS3D GX" enabled to upmix stereo to 5.1 and fix channel mixing problem in media player classic and other video players.
post #5146 of 9491
What's the usual turnaround on RMA nowadays? I have an RMA # and am wondering when to send it in. I don't really care for 24p since my LCD doesn't support it, but it'd nice to not install splendid.
post #5147 of 9491
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Originally Posted by mark007 View Post

Well figured out what was causing my 5.1 channels to get messed up (rear channels blending into one another). If I enable the "DS3D GX" option, and restart my video players, I seem to get 5.1 channels perfectly in speaker tests, no mixing of channels.

Anyone know why this might be the case, and why this setting isn't enabled by default... It seems to upmix stereo to 5.1 also. What do you guys think of the upmixing?

Current settings for DVD movie and music playback are "Hi-Fi" enabled to keep original sound intact and "DS3D GX" enabled to upmix stereo to 5.1 and fix channel mixing problem in media player classic and other video players.

sorry if i missed this, but are you passing the audio through HDMI or analog?
post #5148 of 9491
New to the HD world and new to this forum...it's a good source of good info for we newbs...

There has been spotty mention of a slim HDMI only card that I cant seem to find more info on at all.

It may be just the thing for me to bitstream the top end audio formats from a box sans pci-e (ATI HD 3650 AGP) for external decoding in a Yamaha RX-V863

So, who, what and when ?

Asus ? PCI ? HDMI in and out to mux in video ? coupla weeks..?
post #5149 of 9491
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Originally Posted by wakefia View Post

New to the HD world and new to this forum...it's a good source of good info for we newbs...

There has been spotty mention of a slim HDMI only card that I cant seem to find more info on at all.

It may be just the thing for me to bitstream the top end audio formats from a box sans pci-e (ATI HD 3650 AGP) for external decoding in a Yamaha RX-V863

So, who, what and when ?

Asus ? PCI ? HDMI in and out to mux in video ? coupla weeks..?

What about a little bit of reading first?
post #5150 of 9491
Check out the HTPC DIY piece from Extreme Tech yesterday entitled "Build a Home Theater PC" (this is my first posting on the forum, so I'm not yet allowed to provide URLs; if you search at extremetech you'll find it easily). Interestingly the build calls for the plain-vanilla HDAV1.3 but recommends PowerDVD as the Blu-ray player of choice. No mention of 8 vs 9 serial number and/or firmware upgrade issues, no mention of potential issues with bitstreaming, DTS-MA, or Dolby TrueHD. I'm of two minds on this piece:
(a) it's nice to see the HDAV1.3 getting a little more into the mainstream
(b) I'm sorry to see the thorny issues and the blood, sweat, and tears involved in getting to the present day completely glossed over.

I'm going to be writing a review of the HDAV1.3 in both Deluxe and plain versions for Tom's Hardware next week, and I assure you that these issues will be at the heart and soul of my discussion and exposition, as will be the remaining issues and potential gotchas--particularly differences between retail and Asus TMT and lingering issues with VMC integration with the latter, as well as known graphics card and AVR snags. FYI, as I spent the last two days (!!!) reading all 5000+ threads in this saga of a message board, my personal highest moment came when a respected forum member cited one of my stories on high-def audio in the threads (go to Tomsguide and search on "Mastering HD PC Audio" with either "Part 1" and "Part 2" appended to the root string).

If the members like, I would be glad to provide a preview of the story for comment, correction, and complaints before going public with same. After all I've learned from reading your experiences and observing the history of the card, I feel like I owe you this opportunity.

Thanks for an astounding revelation of the technology development process at work. The HDAV1.3 could have turned out to be a total fiasco, but you folks helped to turn it into at least a partial triumph over the protectionist instincts of the digital content providers. And although Asus didn't get it right out the gate, and has continued to struggle to make things right since it hit the streets last September, I think they deserve at least a little credit, perhaps grudgingly granted, for keeping on trying to make it right since then.

I will say this much about the HDAV1.3 based on my own experiences in installing (and reinstalling) to get it working in my rig: the card's a stunner if used in the right system and with the right signal chain, all the way out to the display and the AVR-to-speakers elements. Deviate from the well-trodden path, though, and watch out for brambles!

--Ed--
post #5151 of 9491
Is the bundled version of TMT (I downloaded the 126 version from Asus) supposed to work with Vista 64? When I launch it, I can see that the uDigital Theater.exe process starts in the task manager, but it silently dies without bringing up anything. I thought Arcsoft had fixed the vista64 bug in the 119 version of TMT -- or was that fix only on a different branch?
post #5152 of 9491
ETittel,

Thanks for the heads up. A review would be great. Looking forward to your review.

I'd add that feedback at the ASUS forum by the moderator and help by MyAV has been invaluable.
post #5153 of 9491
Here is the link:

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...2342468,00.asp


They seem to have no idea what they are talking about. They do not mention bitstreaming at all (or if they did I missed it). They use an expensive PAP soundcard and then purposefully cripple it.
post #5154 of 9491
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Originally Posted by ETittel View Post

Thanks for an astounding revelation of the technology development process at work. The HDAV1.3 could have turned out to be a total fiasco, but you folks helped to turn it into at least a partial triumph over the protectionist instincts of the digital content providers. And although Asus didn't get it right out the gate, and has continued to struggle to make things right since it hit the streets last September, I think they deserve at least a little credit, perhaps grudgingly granted, for keeping on trying to make it right since then.

Put that in the article and I'll be happy.
post #5155 of 9491
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Originally Posted by ETittel View Post

I'm going to be writing a review of the HDAV1.3 in both Deluxe and plain versions for Tom's Hardware next week, and I assure you that these issues will be at the heart and soul of my discussion and exposition, as will be the remaining issues and potential gotchas--particularly differences between retail and Asus TMT and lingering issues with VMC integration with the latter, as well as known graphics card and AVR snags. FYI, as I spent the last two days (!!!) reading all 5000+ threads in this saga of a message board, my personal highest moment came when a respected forum member cited one of my stories on high-def audio in the threads (go to Tomsguide and search on "Mastering HD PC Audio" with either "Part 1" and "Part 2" appended to the root string).

If the members like, I would be glad to provide a preview of the story for comment, correction, and complaints before going public with same. After all I've learned from reading your experiences and observing the history of the card, I feel like I owe you this opportunity.--Ed--

Here is the current state of HDMI on a PC.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2#post15242282

I look forward to hearing your review. If you have any questions just ask.
post #5156 of 9491
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Originally Posted by bigthys View Post

sorry if i missed this, but are you passing the audio through HDMI or analog?

Through analog. I am using the THX speaker test on the Star Wars Episode II disk. On the right surround channel, the sound comes slightly from rear left, and vice versa. With DS3D enabled, this is fixed..... very confusing and i am sure is effecting lots of analog users without them knowing. They probably think they are getting great surround volume or something.

EDIT: Nah definitely not liking the fact that this DSDD seems to add some effects to stereo content. I would rather play stereo from 2 speakers for the moment..... ugh kinda sick of this card already.... come on ASUS..
post #5157 of 9491
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Originally Posted by gorthocar View Post

Is the bundled version of TMT (I downloaded the 126 version from Asus) supposed to work with Vista 64? When I launch it, I can see that the uDigital Theater.exe process starts in the task manager, but it silently dies without bringing up anything. I thought Arcsoft had fixed the vista64 bug in the 119 version of TMT -- or was that fix only on a different branch?

1. Rename all .dll files with Powerlib in the Arcsoft folder to Powerlib.BAK

2. Disable any energy saving option (disable Speedstep, set Vista to High performance etc.).

See if it works. TMT has issues with certain energy saving technologies.
post #5158 of 9491
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Originally Posted by Rathbone View Post

1. Rename all .dll files with Powerlib in the Arcsoft folder to Powerlib.BAK

2. Disable any energy saving option (disable Speedstep, set Vista to High performance etc.).

See if it works. TMT has issues with certain energy saving technologies.

It didn't help. Thanks for the idea though.

I tried a clean install of vista64, sp1, sp2 release candidate, Intel X58 chipset drivers 9.1.0.1012, Nvidia drivers 182.08, and the latest HDAV drivers. I disabled speedstep and put vista into high performance power options mode, and renamed the Arcsoft Powerlib*.dll files so they didn't end in .dll. Same thing.

I start TMT 126, and it dies a happy death without bringing up anything.

Any other ideas?
post #5159 of 9491
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Originally Posted by cybrsage View Post

Here is the link:

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...2342468,00.asp


They seem to have no idea what they are talking about. They do not mention bitstreaming at all (or if they did I missed it). They use an expensive PAP soundcard and then purposefully cripple it.

I posted a response to Lloyd pointing this out... wonder what will come of it.
post #5160 of 9491
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Originally Posted by mark007 View Post

Through analog. I am using the THX speaker test on the Star Wars Episode II disk. On the right surround channel, the sound comes slightly from rear left, and vice versa. With DS3D enabled, this is fixed..... very confusing and i am sure is effecting lots of analog users without them knowing. They probably think they are getting great surround volume or something.

EDIT: Nah definitely not liking the fact that this DSDD seems to add some effects to stereo content. I would rather play stereo from 2 speakers for the moment..... ugh kinda sick of this card already.... come on ASUS..

Select 2 channels in Audio Channels and 2 speakers in Analog out. Shouldn't that deliver stereo?
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