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post #5401 of 9491
3/18/09 at 6:41pm
Just one more thing. I gotta say, given the practical troubles that decoding on the PC is giving, I am in full agreement on doing bistream to avoid that. Given most current setups, I don't think decoded LPCM through HDMI would be the same as a bitstreamed setup.
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post #5402 of 9491
3/18/09 at 7:39pm
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Originally Posted by Andy o View Post

Reality is an opinion? I am not debating if it sounds better or not to you. You're right about that. It doesn't really matter to me and why bother? I've never said I didn't believe your tests sounded better to you or anyone else. What I'm disputing is that it's not necessarily due to LPCM vs. bistream, because nobody has been able (so far) to isolate that variable alone to come to that conclusion.

Again, I don't have a reason not to believe you that you heard a difference, but in your tests, you could not be sure if bitstream vs. decoded LPCM was the only variable. You don't know for sure how metadata is being handled by the different decoders, for one. There could be other variables as well. That's all I'm saying.

Be sure to let me know when your tests can account for every variable.
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post #5403 of 9491
3/18/09 at 7:56pm
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Originally Posted by Davinleeds View Post

Be sure to let me know when your tests can account for every variable.

Because I can't, I don't go around making any extraordinary claims.

If you can't account for every significant variable, then your test is as good as anything else, and why do it in the first place. Homeopathy has been "proven" correct like this, for example.

What you were testing (and what your tests are valid for) is the difference between those systems, not the specific difference between bistream vs. decoded LPCM. That you can't account for every variable exactly invalidated them for the latter purpose. For the former purpose, you may well be absolutely right that the bitstreamed system was better..
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post #5404 of 9491
3/19/09 at 4:26am
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Originally Posted by mpgxsvcd View Post

I am looking into getting the Hauppauge 1212 component input device. However, I have the ASUS HDAV card and I am using the ASUS version of TMT. Will I still be able to record with the Hauppauge 1212 while using the ASUS version of TMT?

Has anyone used the Hauppauge 1212 with the ASUS HDAV before?

Can anyone help with this question? I really want to get the Haupauge card but I want to make sure it will allow me to use it while keeping my existing TMT installation.

Can you install TME from the Hauppauge card and stilll keep your existing TMT installation from the ASUS card?
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post #5405 of 9491
3/19/09 at 4:49am
TMT .127 is up for download on their ftp.
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post #5406 of 9491
3/19/09 at 5:03am
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Originally Posted by Rathbone View Post

TMT .127 is up for download on their ftp.

Anyone tried it yet?.................How about now??

I really hope they've put the VMC integration back in.
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post #5407 of 9491
3/19/09 at 5:08am
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Originally Posted by Wolvers View Post

Anyone tried it yet?.................How about now??

I really hope they've put the VMC integration back in.


Can you please elaborate what is not working with the VMC integration?

Thanks!
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post #5408 of 9491
3/19/09 at 5:46am
Bitstreaming with the 64 driver is still broken. Don't they test these things?

EDIT: Bitstreaming works now after an intensive cleaning of the Xonar drivers with Drivercleaner.NET

EDIT2: Still no VMC.
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post #5409 of 9491
3/19/09 at 6:05am
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Originally Posted by Rathbone View Post

Bitstreaming with the 64 driver is still broken. Don't they test these things?

EDIT: Bitstreaming works now after an intensive cleaning of the Xonar drivers with Drivercleaner.NET

EDIT2: Still no VMC.

64 driver as in 64 bit Vista or XP?
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post #5410 of 9491
3/19/09 at 6:09am
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Originally Posted by Rathbone View Post

TMT .127 is up for download on their ftp.

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Originally Posted by w1seman View Post

As far as I heard so far it breaks bitstreaming with the current ASUS TMT SE version .126.

Can anybody else confirm that? If that is true, we will see a newer TMT version with the new driver as soon as its posted on the official download page I suppose.



Could anyone post a link, the server is busy like hell, thx!
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post #5411 of 9491
3/19/09 at 6:09am
Where are the f*cking XP 64 drivers and TMT ???? :s
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post #5412 of 9491
3/19/09 at 6:11am
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Originally Posted by bigthys View Post

64 driver as in 64 bit Vista or XP?

I mean the driver version .....64 for Vista

TMT bitstream is NOT broken. You just need to clean the old driver properly with Drivercleaner (choose C-Media). Just uninstalling won't work. After clean reinstall TMT 126 and 127 worked.
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post #5413 of 9491
3/19/09 at 6:23am
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Originally Posted by Rathbone View Post

I mean the driver version .....64 for Vista

TMT bitstream is NOT broken. You just need to clean the old driver properly with Drivercleaner (choose C-Media). Just uninstalling won't work. After clean reinstall TMT 126 and 127 worked.

Thx, so what has changed with the new versions (driver and TMT)?
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post #5414 of 9491
3/19/09 at 6:31am
I move my comments to this new thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...7#post16076347
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post #5415 of 9491
3/19/09 at 6:39am
I was wondering, for those that sent their cards for RMA, did you get an email notification when it shipped back to you? I'm annoyed because I checked the status on Tuesday and it said "repairing", which was fine, but then later that day the status said "Ready for Shipping" and it's been like that for 2 days now, and I have not received an email about shipping. I'm just trying to figure out if that status means it shipped.
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post #5416 of 9491
3/19/09 at 6:53am
I got mine back without any notice.
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post #5417 of 9491
3/19/09 at 7:00am
Sweet baby jeebus! Take the LPCM vs bitstreaming crap to another thread. Having to wade through pages of this garbage to get to actual on-topic info is getting really old.
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post #5418 of 9491
3/19/09 at 7:02am
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Originally Posted by jojoxl View Post

Sweet baby jeebus! Take the LPCM vs bitstreaming crap to another thread.

I was hoping my comments would shut it down so that is not necessary. Sorry if I offended you...
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post #5419 of 9491
3/19/09 at 7:02am
BTW - Has anyone got any more info on the release date for the Slim version? I am one of those waiting to see what it sells for and how well it works...
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post #5420 of 9491
3/19/09 at 7:05am
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Originally Posted by jojoxl View Post

Sweet baby jeebus! Take the LPCM vs bitstreaming crap to another thread.

Lol, did you notice that bitstreaming is one of the most important functions of the HDAV?


People were talking about the ATI for pages in this thread. This is what has to be taken to another thread.

If you don't like the discussion about if bitstream is needed or if there is a difference against LPCM, than just stay away from the thread instead of making dumb comments.
Thx!

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post #5421 of 9491
3/19/09 at 7:37am
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Originally Posted by w1seman View Post

If you don't like the discussion about if bitstream is needed or if there is a difference against LPCM, than just stay away from the thread instead of making dumb comments.
Thx!

No, he's right. Bitstream vs LPCM is a separate topic that's not specific to the HDAV so please take the discussion elsewhere.
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post #5422 of 9491
3/19/09 at 7:38am
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Originally Posted by Axel View Post

Can you please elaborate what is not working with the VMC integration?

There isn't any at the moment!
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post #5423 of 9491
3/19/09 at 7:41am
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Originally Posted by dude2006 View Post

I was wondering, for those that sent their cards for RMA, did you get an email notification when it shipped back to you? I'm annoyed because I checked the status on Tuesday and it said "repairing", which was fine, but then later that day the status said "Ready for Shipping" and it's been like that for 2 days now, and I have not received an email about shipping. I'm just trying to figure out if that status means it shipped.

On both rma's I had to ask live support for status and tracking numbers. Never got an email.
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post #5424 of 9491
3/19/09 at 7:43am
Any release notes or what's changed with the new .127 TMT and the new asus xonar drivers. What's this about the no x64 drivers for vista?
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post #5425 of 9491
3/19/09 at 7:54am
my apologies if this has been asked or discussed in the previous posts - so ultimately, what video card works better with the HDAV1.3, ATI or Nvidia? and as far as HD Video quality is concerned, is one better than the other?
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post #5426 of 9491
3/19/09 at 7:59am
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Originally Posted by Wolvers View Post

There isn't any at the moment!

So, you cannot even launch the disk/TMT within let's say MyMovies?
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post #5427 of 9491
3/19/09 at 8:08am
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Originally Posted by Wolvers View Post

No, he's right. Bitstream vs LPCM is a separate topic that's not specific to the HDAV so please take the discussion elsewhere.

Well thats your opinion, I do see this discussion necessary regarding the HDAV since bitstream is whats the HDAV is mostly about.
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post #5428 of 9491
3/19/09 at 8:19am
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Originally Posted by Axel View Post

So, you cannot even launch the disk/TMT within let's say MyMovies?
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A VMC plugin seems to be the solution, OML for instance. I use Media Browser, which has BD playback integration. Will try ASAP.
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post #5429 of 9491
3/19/09 at 8:26am
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Originally Posted by w1seman View Post

Well thats your opinion, I do see this discussion necessary regarding the HDAV since bitstream is whats the HDAV is mostly about.

Well it would seem that you are on your own there. xgecko has started a thread for you.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...7#post16076347
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post #5430 of 9491
3/19/09 at 8:26am
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Originally Posted by w1seman View Post

Well thats your opinion, I do see this discussion necessary regarding the HDAV since bitstream is whats the HDAV is mostly about.

+1
exactly...
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