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post #8161 of 9491
11/3/09 at 2:41am
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Originally Posted by Davinleeds View Post

My Gigabyte 4200 MB, even with a discrete 4670 would always come up hdcp not supported. TMT playback with 7.1 lpcm no problem. But that hdcp not supported would not let me include the Xonar, no matter what. Analog no problem.

Changed to a different MB using same ram, cpu, cables, etc ---Xonar bitstreams first try.

Check hdcp.

Problem Solved

Had to do with hypermemory setting (onboard VGA) in BIOS

It doesn't work with Sideport Memory Enabled.

A bit crazy but true!
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post #8162 of 9491
11/3/09 at 8:31am
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Originally Posted by SamuriHL View Post

That does seem wrong, yes. I would uninstall the Xonar driver, reboot, reinstall it, reboot again, and reset up the Xonar CP as follows:

Select HDMI
8 channels
48 or 96 (whatever you want)
7.1 speakers

Windows Sound CP:
Set Speakers as the default device

And see if that helps at all.

Well i tried what you said... Went back to win7 64bit and uninstalled/rebooted/reinstalled latest win7 drivers (1775) and still the exact same problem....even did it twice.

Then i did it again only this time i installed the vista 64bit drivers (1773) and now i have all audio including the hd tracks.

Must be a bug in the new 1775 drivers

thanks for all the help and advice....i now have hd audio and hot swapping.
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post #8163 of 9491
11/3/09 at 8:34am
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Originally Posted by goldwing77 View Post

Well i tried what you said... Went back to win7 64bit and uninstalled/rebooted/reinstalled latest win7 drivers (1775) and still the exact same problem....even did it twice.

Then i did it again only this time i installed the vista 64bit drivers (1773) and now i have all audio including the hd tracks.

Must be a bug in the new 1775 drivers

thanks for all the help and advice....i now have hd audio and hot swapping.

Hmmm, 1775 drivers. Yeaaaaa, about that. I've never installed them.
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post #8164 of 9491
11/3/09 at 1:46pm
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Originally Posted by SamuriHL View Post

Hmmm, 1775 drivers. Yeaaaaa, about that. I've never installed them.

LOL....I guess i should have ask you 4 days ago exactly which drivers you were using I assumed 1775 but you know the old saying...............

Now to figure out if its possible to get my mx-700 remote to control windows media center so i dont have to get off my ass or use my xbox 360 control
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post #8165 of 9491
11/3/09 at 2:08pm
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Originally Posted by spcav View Post

Problem Solved

Had to do with hypermemory setting (onboard VGA) in BIOS

It doesn't work with Sideport Memory Enabled.

A bit crazy but true!

Let me write that down and slip the note in the MB box that's on my shelf.

Did you happen to see your hdcp status before your change?

Thanks
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post #8166 of 9491
11/3/09 at 2:59pm
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Originally Posted by goldwing77 View Post

LOL....I guess i should have ask you 4 days ago exactly which drivers you were using I assumed 1775 but you know the old saying...............

Now to figure out if its possible to get my mx-700 remote to control windows media center so i dont have to get off my ass or use my xbox 360 control

To be honest I haven't seen too many issues with the new drivers so it never really occurred to me to have you go back to the ones I'm using. I'm simply lazy and haven't updated them. (I'm also of the opinion that since it's working for me not to mess with it)
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post #8167 of 9491
11/3/09 at 3:17pm
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Originally Posted by goldwing77 View Post

Well i tried what you said... Went back to win7 64bit and uninstalled/rebooted/reinstalled latest win7 drivers (1775) and still the exact same problem....even did it twice.

Then i did it again only this time i installed the vista 64bit drivers (1773) and now i have all audio including the hd tracks.

Must be a bug in the new 1775 drivers

thanks for all the help and advice....i now have hd audio and hot swapping.


Yeah that would do it!
1775 didn't work for me either when trying to bitstream HD audio. The regular DD/DTS will play fine tho. Strange??
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post #8168 of 9491
11/3/09 at 3:18pm
Those are some awesome drivers ASUS put out. Glad I stayed away from them now!
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post #8169 of 9491
11/3/09 at 3:49pm
Well, let me note that 1775 with Nvidia 190.7, ASUS 8300 mb/9800gt and 7100rc has given me the most flawless playback with Xonar 1.3 and Onkyo 605. I can turn 605 on/off and at no time did it not sync. No Gamer/Spendid(not on site for 1775 W7) and it has not worked better. This is as it should be. I have not updated Slim with XP as that is too working fine as is.

191.07 is correct
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post #8170 of 9491
11/3/09 at 3:53pm
I still haven't had time to check Tulli's instructions for fixing the stupid handshaking issues. Maybe Ill give the new driver a try first. We'll see. I can always go back so no big deal.
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post #8171 of 9491
11/3/09 at 4:01pm
Well I have to dump RC and go retail, if that changes the equation...crap!
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post #8172 of 9491
11/3/09 at 4:37pm
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Originally Posted by Davinleeds View Post

Well, let me note that 1775 with Nvidia 190.7, ASUS 8300 mb/9800gt and 7100rc has given me the most flawless playback with Xonar 1.3 and Onkyo 605. I can turn 605 on/off and at no time did it not sync. No Gamer/Spendid(not on site for 1775 W7) and it has not worked better. This is as it should be. I have not updated Slim with XP as that is too working fine as is.

I use a EVGA 8800GT here but was using 191.07 drivers when i tested 1775.
Almost sounds like we have a choice.....latest nvidia drivers + 1773=works...older video drivers + 1775= work......latest of both = dont work, at least with win7 64 anyway. I have a denon 4308 and Onkyo 606 here.
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post #8173 of 9491
11/3/09 at 4:41pm
Sorry, yes 191.07 7100rc32
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post #8174 of 9491
11/4/09 at 4:28am
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Originally Posted by SamuriHL View Post

Those are some awesome drivers ASUS put out. Glad I stayed away from them now!

I remember posting a while back when the 1775 driver was released that I will not be upgrading unless there is a major change like automatic detection and non downsampling of LPCM tracks for example or bitstream support for HD DVD...
I guess this will hold for all future releases (1777 or 1779 or 18XX whatever) until they finally deliver one that will work as expected.
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post #8175 of 9491
11/4/09 at 5:19am
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Originally Posted by goldwing77 View Post

I use a EVGA 8800GT here but was using 191.07 drivers when i tested 1775.
Almost sounds like we have a choice.....latest nvidia drivers + 1773=works...older video drivers + 1775= work......latest of both = dont work, at least with win7 64 anyway. I have a denon 4308 and Onkyo 606 here.

Latest of both work with no issues for me in Win7 x64. GC is GTS250. AVR is Denon 988. I use EDID override to solve handshaking issues.
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post #8176 of 9491
11/4/09 at 8:32am
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Originally Posted by balky View Post

I remember posting a while back when the 1775 driver was released that I will not be upgrading unless there is a major change like automatic detection and non downsampling of LPCM tracks for example or bitstream support for HD DVD...
I guess this will hold for all future releases (1777 or 1779 or 18XX whatever) until they finally deliver one that will work as expected.

By the time that happens, I'll no longer care as I won't be using the Xonar for bitstreaming. I'm happy with it right now with the driver I have. Other than the handshaking problem, I have no issues.
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post #8177 of 9491
11/5/09 at 3:33pm
I just received my Asus Xonar HDAV1.3 card back and still have trouble with getting HDMI to be recognized in the Windows 7 sound control panel. I'm using a Sapphire Technologies ATI 4670 with DVI outputs. This is with a Marantz SR5003 AVR. I get Windows desktop video and the SR5003 shows "MULTI-CH 7.1". Also, unrelated(?) TMT3 .160 retail doesn't want to play BD's.

Does the first problem sound like a handshake problem, I haven't tried the EDID solution yet.

Thanks.
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post #8178 of 9491
11/5/09 at 4:34pm
"MULTI-CH 7.1" is OK in the AVR, meaning that Windows and the Xonar are set to 7.1 speakers (ready for multi channel LPCM over HDMI). It also means that there's NO handshake problem at all with the AVR EDID extended block.

You should now try to solve your TMT3 issue.

It wouldn't hurt to reinstall it but try first to disable any other audio device except the Xonar. Then set it to "HDMI pass-through"

Also, your Asus drivers should be 17.73 or 17.75.

If you still have issues then go for the EDID Override. It's a very simple process, and you can always rollback drivers if something goes wrong.
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post #8179 of 9491
11/5/09 at 5:13pm
Just for fun I took the HDAV out of the "loop" (I removed the DVI-HDMI cable from the video card to HDAV) and now I get a defaulted HDMI in "Sound" control panel, and TMT3 runs as it should again. What would the next step be to verify the function of the HDAV card?
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post #8180 of 9491
11/5/09 at 5:19pm
Also, the HDMI entry in "Sound" is an ATI entry although the ATI video card is only two DVI's out. The video card also has a third socket which is round maybe a small DIN connector of some type and has six pins, I'll try to find the manual.
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post #8181 of 9491
11/5/09 at 5:30pm
Again, the AVR wasn't detected as a video monitor as it previously was, now without the HDAV card it is.
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post #8182 of 9491
11/5/09 at 6:41pm
With the DVI-HDMI cable unconnected the sound control panel shows an ATI HDMI entry which is active and can be set to default. When I connect the DVI-HDMI cable from the ATI video card to the HDAV cards' input the ATI HDMI entry goes inactive and the default device becomes the speakers device.
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post #8183 of 9491
11/5/09 at 6:43pm
Shouldn't there be an HDMI entry in "Sound" for the HDAV device?
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post #8184 of 9491
11/5/09 at 7:11pm
Yeah, all that makes sense. Right now it seems TMT3 is configured for the ATI HDMI device.

So, again, disable the ATI HDMI device and/or the onboard sound device.

Uninstall/install TMT3 + .160 patch. Set TMT3 audio to "HDMI pass-through" and it should work.

As for an ASUS HDMI device, there is none! You only select "HDMI mode" in the HDAV Control Center, and it's quite irrelevant in Windows if you choose the ASUS "Speakers" or "SPDIF" Device.
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post #8185 of 9491
11/5/09 at 9:46pm
Uhm. I did find a physical problem... The HDAV card was tilted a bit front to back, which was causing several problems with the card being recognized (drivers wouldn't install, etc.) Still, the device selected in "Sound" is the "Speaker" though I still get bitstream data to the AVR, full DTS-HD Master and Dolby Digital True HD. It really is a great effect. Iv'e watched one concert movie (The Rolling Stones: "Shine a Light") so far and starting another ("Blade Runner"). Thanks for the help, it only served to help matters.
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post #8186 of 9491
11/6/09 at 6:10am
When I looked at the computer this morning the screen was flashing every few seconds. I turned off the AVR and it stopped. This seems to me to be an HDMI handshake problem. What do you think? Also, I'm not getting computer display on my second monitor.
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post #8187 of 9491
11/6/09 at 8:41am
My experience so far with this card:

First, my setup:

ASUS P5Q-EM motherboard. (Onboard sound disabled in bios)
550 watt PSU
ATI Radeon 3850 (HDMI audio disabled and no drivers installed)
Xonar HDAV 1.3
Windows 7 64bit (installed 1 week ago from retail copy ordered directly from MS.)
Sony HDMI 7.1 AVR
Sharp Aquos 46" LCD TrueHD (1920 x 1080 @60Hz)

Installed it 3 days ago, set it up, set up TMT3 Platinum Retail, everything worked beautifully.

2 days ago:
- Turned on the HTPC first thing in the morning, no picture.
- I rebooted. Everything worked fine again.

1 day ago:
- Turned on the HTPC first thing in the morning, no picture.
- I rebooted, no picture and my LCD displayed message about "resolution unsupported". That was strange. I had to turn the LCD off and then on again to get rid of that message.
- I then rebooted again. This time I got a picture but Window 7 displayed a message saying that my copy of Windows was not genuine. What? I just installed it 1 week previous from a retail copy I ordered directly from MicroSoft. No way this was a bad copy of Windows 7
- So, I rebooted again. This time everything was back to normal. Even my copy of Windows was reporting that it was activated and genuine again. Weird!

This morning:
- Turned it on first thing in the morning. No picture.
- Rebooted, everything worked great again.

Conclusion:

I think it's probably related to the whole "handshake" problem so I'm going to try Tulli's solution when I get a moment. Fingers crossed.
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post #8188 of 9491
11/6/09 at 8:56am
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Originally Posted by Mark Morgan Adam View Post

When I looked at the computer this morning the screen was flashing every few seconds. I turned off the AVR and it stopped. This seems to me to be an HDMI handshake problem. What do you think? Also, I'm not getting computer display on my second monitor.

Yes, it is. Normally the handshaking routine will be activated when powering on/off, or when switching sources in, the HDTV or AVR. Computer screen will "flash" until handshake is resolved. If handshake is NOT resolved you might end-up with the HDMI device not being detected at all in the ATI CCC (with Nvidia it will show up, but must be manually enabled ... I have a dual monitor setup too).

In my case, for ATI to re-detect my HDMI display device I had to shutdown and power up the PC. The only FREE solution that I found was to do an EDID override.
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post #8189 of 9491
11/6/09 at 9:19am
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Originally Posted by TMike View Post

My experience so far with this card:

First, my setup:

ASUS P5Q-EM motherboard. (Onboard sound disabled in bios)
550 watt PSU
ATI Radeon 3850 (HDMI audio disabled and no drivers installed)
Xonar HDAV 1.3
Windows 7 64bit (installed 1 week ago from retail copy ordered directly from MS.)
Sony HDMI 7.1 AVR
Sharp Aquos 46" LCD TrueHD (1920 x 1080 @60Hz)

Installed it 3 days ago, set it up, set up TMT3 Platinum Retail, everything worked beautifully.

2 days ago:
- Turned on the HTPC first thing in the morning, no picture.
- I rebooted. Everything worked fine again.

1 day ago:
- Turned on the HTPC first thing in the morning, no picture.
- I rebooted, no picture and my LCD displayed message about "resolution unsupported". That was strange. I had to turn the LCD off and then on again to get rid of that message.
- I then rebooted again. This time I got a picture but Window 7 displayed a message saying that my copy of Windows was not genuine. What? I just installed it 1 week previous from a retail copy I ordered directly from MicroSoft. No way this was a bad copy of Windows 7
- So, I rebooted again. This time everything was back to normal. Even my copy of Windows was reporting that it was activated and genuine again. Weird!

This morning:
- Turned it on first thing in the morning. No picture.
- Rebooted, everything worked great again.

Conclusion:

I think it's probably related to the whole "handshake" problem so I'm going to try Tulli's solution when I get a moment. Fingers crossed.

Right, that was exactly mi issue with a 4670. See the above post.
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post #8190 of 9491
11/6/09 at 5:15pm
Guys,

Please help.

I have been using hdav1.3 and getting bitstreaming on xp for quite some time now.

Yesterday i did get my card back after the firmware upgrade for 24p.

I also updated the hdav software to 1773.

The problem is that if i switch off the tv for say 10 minutes or so then nothing is displayed on the TV as if there is no signal.

This was not happening previously. No handshake issues.

Video Card is ASUS 8600
Xonar HDAV1.3
Yamaha 3900.

I have to reboot my HTPC every time. Is there a way around.

EDID override. Does that works on XP as well or is it only for Windows 7.

Because i tried on XP and nothing happened or i would have done something wrong.

Thanks
Alvinder
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