*Official* Asus Xonar HDAV1.3 thread - Page 310

I just did a Bing search and had several good e-tailers come up that are selling them. Fry's seem to have several Xonar cards still but non of the HDAV ones.

It works great for gaming, for the games that don't use formats supported by your AVR the card has DD live and DTS interactive so it will convert the unsupported surround sound to one of these that your AVR will support to give you proper digital surround sound. You can also passthru digital audio, I have mine set up to do this for all my media play back and just use the Xonar's DD/DTS encoding for games.

whats the difference between the HDAV and the D2?

The main difference is the D2 doesn't have HDMI and other than the HDAV 1.3 slim it's PCI instead of PCI-e on the HDAV 1.3 deluxe. If you got to the Asus site you can compare each model side by side and see all the differences and similarities between each model.

I actually used the D2 before the HDAV 1.3 deluxe aside form the HDMI/HD audio they're quite similar in function and performance (analog and re-encoding digital).

Thanks for the reply.

I am aware that almost any card can do DDL/DTS for 5.1 and that it works well for gaming. I guess my real question is can this card send (or passthrough) a discrete 7.1 channels from games that my AVR will understand and know what to do with? Like a PS3, for example? I'm not sure how PS3 encodes 7.1 for games, I just know that it does and that PS3 games support it. It may just use Dolby True HD like BluRay, I don't know. I do know that PC games work well in 5.1 digital because they use DDL for encoding, which an AVR can then decode. Does this card (or any HDMI sound card) have any means to encode 7.1 from a game and then send it to my AVR in a language (format) that it can understand and impliment into 7 discrete channels? I want the reciever to be able to do its thing. I would also really like to use Pro Logic IIz for extra channels, although I know this requires Dolby encoding.

It seems currently that the only type of encoding from PC games is DDL, which only supports 5.1? Is this correct? If so, I wonder if Dolby is working on Dolby Digital Live+ or something that does real time encoding for 8 channels. HDMI will be the defacto interface before long, and I don't see PC games being on the BluRay format any time soon. Something has to give. Right?

hello,

sorry for my english. Is possible my problem are in his tread but my englih make pb for understand all the tread.

My situation:

Windows seven 64bit

Asus Xonar hdav 1.3 deluxe with the ultimate driver from asus, and ultimate TMT.

Active speakers connected with the RCA analogue output.

TMT is funcionning correctly in 5.1 and my mediacenter (mediaportal also but in this ultimate case decoding with ffdshow)

My problem:

I connected a input receiver sattelit through SPDIF in of the card.

The audio center Asus is with configuration:

Main, 6 channel, 192 bits, 5.1, no spdif rear enabled.

Mixer, record Spidif enabled, monitoring enabled, verify check enabled.


I have sounds only if the imput is stereo, in case of ac3 no sound.

In the case of stereo is not possible to ajust volume, in record and in the main volume. The cursor move but not the volume.


Thank you

How do I set the levels for the left and right side surrounds?

There is level setting for left and right rear but not side surround.

thank for your answer. The level of each speaker is made in the main menu through the test of speakers

Christian

Just found this thread---

1. This card is 2 years old? Is there something better out there?

2. How is the sound?

3. Has anyone replaced the OP-AMPS? What were the improvements like?

Dig around here:
http://www.guru3d.com/index.php?page=sound
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread....light=HDAV+1.3

hello everybody, comparing these two sound cards on hdmi out , feel like realtek sounds is cleaner and stronger then asus xonar during playing movies especially vc-1 or h264 in tmt or mpchc , thought that advantage of asus would be obvious, in fact i have doubts maybe because i configured something badly ? realtek gives me olny dd and dts and it plays better than asus dts-hd and ddtruehd ...
htpc i5-2500k GA-H67A-UD3H

Can you test the analog out modes?

no way i have no extension board, now i am a little confused i added to tests my laptop z84jp asmobile with alc882 on hdmi and it seemed to be the best of all ,

Are you bitstreaming HD audio via hdmi from your mobo and HDAV? I'm asking because I'm using the same board with an i5-2500k. My other htpc has an HDAV 1.3. I was curious as to whether each method of bitstreaming would sound different; therefore, I put the hdav in the Giga H67A to satisfy my curiosity. TrueHD and DTS-HD MA sound the same to me regardless of whether the audio is bitstreamed via the HDAV or Intel HD3000. The lossy audio was noticeably worse than the equivalent HD audio track.

ok lets sum up, firstly i was using z84j realtek alc 882 on hdmi the sound was quite good but pc got old, i have changed asmobile on htpc i2500 k gigabyte h67 I was testing three devices two integrated realtek alc 892 on spdif intel display audio on hdmi and dedicated asus xonar on hdmi sound is comparable slight differences, maybe because the movie predators seems to be only dts-core 1,5m/s, out of all i expect something better by asus via hdmi but i am not giving up on testing maybe it is because material is not good enough to see differences, on today i feel like asmobile alc 882 via hdmi has the clearest sound, the rest devices on htpc is good even the scene of sound is wider on asus but sound is not as strong as on asmobile, sorry for messing up

Are you bistreaming HD audio via the Asus HDAV and Intel Display Audio? You can't bitstream HD audio via spdif.

If anyone is looking for a xonar hdav 1.3, please PM me. I still have mine.

yep via hdmi, continue on testing the movie predator blue ray rip dts-core, it is better sound if it is coded by asus ddlive or dts interactive than you play it 5.1 mode (settings in asus xonar control panel) despite of the fact amplituner in 5.1 mode shows dts-hd master audio so the sound is worse than for example dd from ddlive .... i am not spec maybe it is because the movie material .....

i have two questions.

1. Is it possible to output audio only using Ausus xonar hdav 1.3 using hdmi and use my nvidia video card hdmi for video only? Instead of having Audio and video going through one hdmi cable ?

2. Does the Asus xonar hdav does a better job at video processing than lets say ATI/Nvidia video cards ?

1. Yes, the HDAV1.3 only requires an HDMI-in active connection to produce sound. You need of course a free DVI or HDMI port on the graphic card.

2. No. However, if you require RGB, the HDAV1.3 gives consistent black levels (desktop & video) with Nvidia cards + latest drivers (otherwise the desktop is set to video (washed out) with no way to fix it that I know, except by doing EDID modding).

Which receiver are you using? Does your receiver have any sort of sound equalization such as Audyssey or MCACC?

Can you clarify that answer? I'd also like to know the HDAV processing power for video specifically things like MADvr and FI.

Answer is no advantage whatsoever, except for compensating the black levels bug in Nvdia drivers in a full RGB setup, like I said. Only plus video processing on the HDAV1.3 is through Splendid, which really screws PQ IMO. Bottom line is that the HDAV1.3 only advantage is audio; video is there for PVP+PAP compliance only. Of course if you're only looking to bitstream HD audio there's no advantage at all!, and standalone latest generation graphic card would be the right choice then.

Which receiver are you using? Does your receiver have any sort of sound equalization such as Audyssey or MCACC?

I am using onkyo tx-sr705 (audyssey sound equalization)

I have a ASUS xonar 1.3 deluxe sc which I have been using the 7.1 analog outputs. I am buying a processor that can decode true HD so I only want the sc to bit-stream through hdmi, how do I go about connecting/setting this up.

My PC has a hdmi out, do I feed this through the xonar to my processor?

That's correct. The HDAV requires an HDMI video in to produce sound through the HDMI out connected to the processor.

Analog does not need hdmi.

I think you would be complicating bitstreaming using a bitstreaming capable input into the Xonar. You'll have to pay attention to playback devices to prevent conflict.

I am not going to be using Analog connection, just HDMI.

So will this be OK do you think?

Yes, you need to supply the ASUS HDAV with a video input from a video source with HDMI/DVI out > ASUS HDAV in. Then using the HDMI out of the ASUS you would connect to AVR's HDMI in and AVR HDMI out to Display HDMI in. To bitstream you will need to use TMT3 or TMT5 and properly configure TMT, ASUS and windows audio control panels.

I have an old Marantz SR5002 which accepts HDMI but does not decode TrueHD, DTS-HD MA it only works by having the transport (blueray player)decode to 8 channel lossless 24/192 LPCM.

I picked up one of these Xonar 1.3's used just because I needed a decent quality sound card for other work, but has me wondering if the software for it would decode TrueHD/DTS-HD into 8 channel 24/192 LPCM output HDMI?

Yes. You can either do it with Arcsoft TMT (set to decode), or as I do, with LAV Filters + the dtsdecoder.dll from Arcsoft TMT (plus Anydvd).