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post #9361 of 9491
I don't believe this is one of the ones that have been sent in. I don't know if you might remember but did yours do 1080p 60 before you got the firmware upgraded ? I cannot do 24hz either...
Here is my info from the (i) button in the control panel ;

3D Audio Engine: Xear3D EAX2.0
Audio Driver Version: 7.12.8.1794
Audio Controller : Xonar Audio Processing Unit
DirectX Version : DirectX 11 (from within windows 7)
GX : 1.0.10.917
ASIO : 2.0.0.07

Asus Xonar HDAV Center (0.3.0.36)

Thanks
post #9362 of 9491
IIRC, it was sent in for firmware for 24 hz, it did 60 from the start. It has been years, but 8 series needed the firmware and and 9s were already updated, again, iirc.

Your only difference is your plasma, and your card. I intentionally choose video cards that can't do hd audio as the Xonar will. I doubt that is an issue, but note the difference. I've used a 720p, 1080p projector and Vizio 120hz LCD and 28" HZ281 60hz desktop.
post #9363 of 9491
I think you're most definately right. My firmware version under the Splendid button states 1.25 AV whereas i'm pretty sure the updated version is 1.39.

I'll look into RMAing it for the firmware upgrade but I don't know if I can as I bought this card secondhand plus I live in NZ, I'm happy enough to make-do with the brilliant quality sound. Thanks all the same for replying
post #9364 of 9491
I'm using the unified drivers (1.41). Where can I find the firmware version for the card?
post #9365 of 9491
Yes, 1.39 seems correct. The HDAV had to be sent in but the Slim was able to update online. Best of luck with your update.
post #9366 of 9491
Hi Friends,
this is my first post, and enter here for a problem with my Asus Xonar.
First, I describe my hardware and software.
HTPC: asus m4n78pro (onboard video) + Asus Xonar HDAV deluxe
Denon AVR 3310 + Samsung LED
Win7 + foobar for music and for movies TMT5
My connection is as follows
with HDMI
Video on board -> Xonar in
Xonar out -> Avr In
Avr Out -> samsung
Analog audio
Xonar -> avr

The problem:
More than a year ago that used only the HDMI connection, connect a few months ago the sound analog, so analog listen to music and movies over HDMI.
Weeks ago I passed that I have no hdmi sound in TMT5, I can not listen to movies with DTSHDMASTER, only dolby, plus I put in 5.1 output mode but is connected by hdmi.

reinstall drivers, programs, but the problem continues.
Try using the solution to solve the moninfo handshake but I can not run properly with the Asus Xonar TMT5.
I hope I was clear, as my English is not very good,
thanks
post #9367 of 9491
update-
format the pc, install only the main Xonar plate.
With TMT5 working properly, set the output to HDMI, the display shows the decoding AVR DTSMASTER, etc..
But, when you install the analog board, does not work correctly TMT5, I set the output to "5.1" to be heard what I'm playing.
It is possible that this board, although it has a very good sound, has so many problems?.
I hope I can help.
thanks
post #9368 of 9491
Plz help me i'm freaking out.
I just bouy HDVA slim version.
I use it on Windows 7 32bit.
I connect my HDMI video output of 790g integrated graphic card to the Xonar and the xonar to my Onkyo 905.
I would like only to have HDMI Passthrough of HD stream audio and normal DD&DTS.
I have installed last drivers of the xonar form asus site.
I try all TMT version. TMT2(bundle), not work with win7, TMT3 from ausis site don't work TMT5 don't work.
I set on win7 speakers of HDVA 1.3, on Xonar centre i set in HDMI section 8channels, 192, 7.1.
In all version of TMT i set HDMI. but don't work.
I alwayse receive on my Onkyo PCM or nothing audio.
Plz help me.
post #9369 of 9491
I think I have a similar problem to what mod27sc has. Windows and Nvidia Control Panel detects 1080i/30hz as the Xonar's native resolution. I can add a custom resolution that's 1080p/60hz and it works for 2d desktop and movies but my problem is when I try to game when I go into 3d mode it reverts back to 1080i/30hz as shown on my AVR's info screen and also the displays input info.

Since I can use 1080/60p in 2d, would it be possible to use EDID override to make a custom driver for the Xonar so that I can force it to stay in 1080/60p mode when switching to 3d gaming?
post #9370 of 9491
I have this problem:
I have asus xonar in my HTPC, HDMI output from ATI 5800HD connected to xonar HDMI input, then from xonar HDMI output to my Sony 5400ES AV receiver.
It play audio/video with no problem at all.

I try to connect Logitech stereo speakers using xonar RCA stereo output (red and white RCA), but NO SOUND comming out from these stereo output.
What is the problem, is there any setting I have to do ?
My OS is windows 7 Ultimate 64bit.
PLEASE HELP.
THANKS.
post #9371 of 9491
Select Analog Out.
post #9372 of 9491
Turn on analog output in xonar control panel and make sure 'xonar speakers ' are default output in windows sound settings in control panel.
post #9373 of 9491
Quote:
Originally Posted by Davinleeds View Post

Select Analog Out.

Turn on analog output in xonar control panel and make sure 'xonar speakers ' are default output in windows sound settings in control panel.


To Davinleeds and Ruiner: Thanks

Question: Will that setting effecting my Xonar HDMI in and output to watch movies in digital audio format via Sony AV Receiver?
post #9374 of 9491
Yes, you have to go back to hdmi for the Sony AVR.
post #9375 of 9491
Anyone have a good tip where to buy a Xonar HDAV1.3 Deluxe?

They seem a little scarce..eBay from Taiwan so far is the option..
post #9376 of 9491
I'm on a new system now and experiencing a audio lock problem. Say when bitstreaming a DVD the audio will drop for a second here and there and the incoming signal lights on the AVR will shut off at the same time (blink) when this happens. I enabled my onboard Realtek sound and installed it and it doesn't have the problem. I also switched over to Win7 x64 from x32. Does the HDAV have any known issues with x64 or could it be my new motherboard? I also noticed that I can no longer get CD audio bit perfect through the "speakers" anymore when setting everything appropriately (24 bit 44.1kHz/volume maxed using a DTS surround test wav will just produce static noise now). Something is interfering with it? I'd just use the onboard sound but I need Dolby Digital Live and DTS Connect for gaming. So what happened with the HDAV line? No more high end HDMI soundcards?
post #9377 of 9491
Quote:
Originally Posted by Emig5m View Post

I'm on a new system now and experiencing a audio lock problem. Say when bitstreaming a DVD the audio will drop for a second here and there and the incoming signal lights on the AVR will shut off at the same time (blink) when this happens. I enabled my onboard Realtek sound and installed it and it doesn't have the problem. I also switched over to Win7 x64 from x32. Does the HDAV have any known issues with x64 or could it be my new motherboard? I also noticed that I can no longer get CD audio bit perfect through the "speakers" anymore when setting everything appropriately (24 bit 44.1kHz/volume maxed using a DTS surround test wav will just produce static noise now). Something is interfering with it? I'd just use the onboard sound but I need Dolby Digital Live and DTS Connect for gaming. So what happened with the HDAV line? No more high end HDMI soundcards?

It's weird, I swapped the card last night to another slot, totally different IRQ, and it was still doing the same thing. Put it back to the other slot and reinstalled the drivers and it seems to be keeping a signal lock now? Weird. Also, I noticed that the screw tab didn't line up perfectly to the case so maybe it could of been improperly seated into the PCIx slot?
post #9378 of 9491
Quote:
Originally Posted by Emig5m View Post

Also, I noticed that the screw tab didn't line up perfectly to the case so maybe it could of been improperly seated into the PCIx slot?

Seems possible given how little the pci-e x1 tab is.
post #9379 of 9491
Hello everyone,

I was wondering if anyone here tried testing the card with Real Mark Audio Analyzer supplied with the card?

I did and was horrified with the results. E.g. noise level is -66 when it should be -116,2!!

Anyway, I was wondering if you experience the same with your card?
I've attached both the log from my own test and the claimed results by ASUS.


Best regards,
Mikkel
LL
post #9380 of 9491
Are there any special rules for correctly playing an uncompressed LPCM track on a Blu-Ray without some sort of corruption or downsampling?

I have a special version of MPC setup that bitstreams DTS-MA and TrueHD tracks. But since there are so many limitations, from maintaining the PAP to using the ArcSoft Audio Renderer, that I run a different version of MPC for most files. This one has all of the fun filters such as ffdShow, ReClock, etc.

Since my first step with lesser DD or DTS streams is to decode them to PCM, can I use this with an uncompressed LPCM source without any loss in sound quality or does this need to be bistreamed straight to the receiver like DTS-MA or TrueHD files?

Thanks much in advance!
post #9381 of 9491
Quote:
Originally Posted by myurkus View Post

Are there any special rules for correctly playing an uncompressed LPCM track on a Blu-Ray without some sort of corruption or downsampling?

I have a special version of MPC setup that bitstreams DTS-MA and TrueHD tracks. But since there are so many limitations, from maintaining the PAP to using the ArcSoft Audio Renderer, that I run a different version of MPC for most files. This one has all of the fun filters such as ffdShow, ReClock, etc.

Since my first step with lesser DD or DTS streams is to decode them to PCM, can I use this with an uncompressed LPCM source without any loss in sound quality or does this need to be bistreamed straight to the receiver like DTS-MA or TrueHD files?

Thanks much in advance!

It should work with Arcsoft Audio Renderer + LAV audio decoder (set it to decode). You also need to copy Arcsoft dtsdecoder.dll to the LAV filters (x86) dir.
post #9382 of 9491
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tulli View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by myurkus View Post

Are there any special rules for correctly playing an uncompressed LPCM track on a Blu-Ray without some sort of corruption or downsampling?

I have a special version of MPC setup that bitstreams DTS-MA and TrueHD tracks. But since there are so many limitations, from maintaining the PAP to using the ArcSoft Audio Renderer, that I run a different version of MPC for most files. This one has all of the fun filters such as ffdShow, ReClock, etc.

Since my first step with lesser DD or DTS streams is to decode them to PCM, can I use this with an uncompressed LPCM source without any loss in sound quality or does this need to be bistreamed straight to the receiver like DTS-MA or TrueHD files?

Thanks much in advance!

It should work with Arcsoft Audio Renderer + LAV audio decoder (set it to decode). You also need to copy Arcsoft dtsdecoder.dll to the LAV filters (x86) dir.

Thanks for the response!

That actually hits the core of my confusion - since the Blu-Ray is already LPCM, it is already decoded; thus the decoder is [or should be] irrelevant. As far as the Audio Renderer, how can I tell if it is "working"? My receiver shows a PCM input regardless of if I use ReClock or Arcsoft. (I would prefer to use ReClock if possible, but only if I am not losing audio fidelity...)

Since my original post, I scoured this thread and this site for more information: unfortunately although there was a lengthy discussion a few years ago when people first tested the Xonar (and when it was the only possible solution) they could not come-up with a definitive answer.

Many people find it disconcerting that one can modify the signal in the Xonar audio panel (including the equalizer, Effects, etc) or that we can use filters to modify the sound. However, I wonder - while this shows that it is not bit-streaming the exact data stream to be decoded by a receiver, since we are already playing in an uncompressed PCM world, that may not be an issue like it is with DD or DTS. (As most of us know, with Dolby TrueHD or DTS, if one does so much as touch the bitstream, it only reads the core (lossy) part of the stream before allowing any filter to play with them.) (This can be verified by looking at the In/Out Pins on the various filters: TrueHD/DTS-MA drops the stream Mbps by a considerable amount if it is messed with, but an uncompressed source maintains a relatively high bitrate all the way to the renderer.)

FYI - I found much of this information by searching for "LPCM" in this thread. However, as I mentioned, much of this discussion is years old, has anyone found out anything definitive in the meantime.

Thanks again,
MikeY

PS - Since I am not dealing with DTS in this scenario, the dtsdecoder.dll workaround is not relevant, but thanks for the tip! (In fact, I happily use ffdShow over LAVFilters when bit-streaming DTS-MA...since it is a bit-stream, as long as it works (i.e. your receiver shows "DTS-MA" and you hear sound) then you are done. Since ffdShow is working for me, I see no reason to change it (at least for that scenario...))
post #9383 of 9491
Well, I have only used the Arcsoft Audio Renderer to bitstream, so this should be an easy test (see that bitstreaming actually works).
post #9384 of 9491
Hi.

I have just put W7 64bit on my PC, now when I go into the sound options there is no HDMI option to be enabled.

Any ideas??

All sorted. Faulty HDMI cable
post #9385 of 9491
Hi!

It's since september that I'm trying to bitstream DTSHD and DD True to my Marantz SR7005 receiver without success, using TMT3, 5, MPC HD, Filters, ...! Nothing to do! I always get MULTI CH IN on the receiver, but the audio is not on 5.1 or 7.1, but the surround speakers sounds like the fronts (so MULTI CH STEREO).

I can bitstream NORMAL DD and DTS on VLC using SPDIF, in TMT if I select HDMI out my receiver shows Multi CH In for all formats!

Who can help me?

Thank you!

EDIT:
Set-up

GTX570 HDMI Out -> HDMI In Asus Xonar HDAV HDMI Out -> HDMI In Marantz SR7005

i7 2700K
ASUS Maximus IV Extreme Z
...
post #9386 of 9491
Quote:
Originally Posted by Perocat View Post

Hi!

It's since september that I'm trying to bitstream DTSHD and DD True to my Marantz SR7005 receiver without success, using TMT3, 5, MPC HD, Filters, ...! Nothing to do! I always get MULTI CH IN on the receiver, but the audio is not on 5.1 or 7.1, but the surround speakers sounds like the fronts (so MULTI CH STEREO).

I can bitstream NORMAL DD and DTS on VLC using SPDIF, in TMT if I select HDMI out my receiver shows Multi CH In for all formats!

Who can help me?

Thank you!

EDIT:
Set-up

GTX570 HDMI Out -> HDMI In Asus Xonar HDAV HDMI Out -> HDMI In Marantz SR7005

i7 2700K
ASUS Maximus IV Extreme Z
...

Uninstall TMT3/5, set the Xonar Audio Driver as default, reinstall TMT3/5. It should work. You need to make sure that TMT3/5 detects the Xonar as the default/active device during installation. It is a known issue when more audio devices, as it's your case, are present.

MPC-HC requires that the Arcsoft Audio Renderer be registered and set up as shown previously in this thread.
post #9387 of 9491
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tulli View Post

Uninstall TMT3/5, set the Xonar Audio Driver as default, reinstall TMT3/5. It should work. You need to make sure that TMT3/5 detects the Xonar as the default/active device during installation. It is a known issue when more audio devices, as it's your case, are present.

MPC-HC requires that the Arcsoft Audio Renderer be registered and set up as shown previously in this thread.

Thank you for your reply!

Done that thing 10? 20? times...
2 format and complete win reinstalling
and many many other things...
post #9388 of 9491
Quote:
Originally Posted by Perocat View Post

Thank you for your reply!

Done that thing 10? 20? times...
2 format and complete win reinstalling
and many many other things...

Well, do you have AnyDVDHD installed? If not, try it. Maybe there's an HDCP issue that's affecting PAP validation.

What is your display device native resolution? Must be HDTV standard to get HD audio.
post #9389 of 9491
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tulli View Post

Well, do you have AnyDVDHD installed? If not, try it. Maybe there's an HDCP issue that's affecting PAP validation.

What is your display device native resolution? Must be HDTV standard to get HD audio.

Yep, I have AnyDVDHD installed, resolution 1920x1200 native and HDCP active on nVidia control panel!
post #9390 of 9491
use 1920x1080
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