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post #1381 of 3106
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Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson View Post

I really meant the second sentence since I was ignoring the first as a simple disclaimer. Sorry. Will correct.

Kal, you really confused me until I read this one. thanks for the correction.
post #1382 of 3106
Hi all,

I just picked up a used 886 and have read through all the different threads about the infamous "Search F/W...". Being a bit of a computer/av geek I have tried everything including:

Straight thru serial cable. (checked with meter and tried two others as well)
Multiple attempts at starting loader.
Tried changing to com 2.
Tried both 9.9/886 and the 886 pnly 1.04 firmware.
Googled for any other info pertaining to this error.
Used another PC with a serial port.
Downloaded firmware three times to make sure there were no errors. (from Rapidshare link)

All info I have seen others post only states they are not sure exactly how they were able to succeed. Any other ideas?

My Main firmware dispays as: 87 0.01/08409a

I have not tried the DSP flash yet.

I chose this thread as there seems to be more activity about the latest firmware.

TIA!!

Jeff
post #1383 of 3106
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Originally Posted by Sharon L View Post

Does anyone know of an easier way to initiate this without having to program a remote?

I have the Sub HDMI Out going to my exercise room TV so I can watch DVR programs while working out. So every morning I have to do the following:

1. On my main TV, Go into Setup, select Hardware, HDMI, set Audio TV Out to ON. Then click setup and turn my main TV off
2. Then Open up my cabinet and hit the monitor out until the display reads HDMI Sub.

Then when I finish exercising I have to do everything in reverse.

Thanks

Just change the monitor out to HDMI Sub. Not sure why you are messing with the main TV or Audio?
post #1384 of 3106
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Originally Posted by JEF View Post

Hi all,

I just picked up a used 886 and have read through all the different threads about the infamous "Search F/W...". Being a bit of a computer/av geek I have tried everything including:

Straight thru serial cable. (checked with meter and tried two others as well)
Multiple attempts at starting loader.
Tried changing to com 2.
Tried both 9.9/886 and the 886 pnly 1.04 firmware.
Googled for any other info pertaining to this error.
Used another PC with a serial port.
Downloaded firmware three times to make sure there were no errors. (from Rapidshare link)

All info I have seen others post only states they are not sure exactly how they were able to succeed. Any other ideas?

My Main firmware dispays as: 87 0.01/08409a

I have not tried the DSP flash yet.

I chose this thread as there seems to be more activity about the latest firmware.

TIA!!

Jeff

This cable is the one in the Audyssey Pro Kit. Works fine for me. USB to Serial Cable

post #1385 of 3106
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Originally Posted by hulkss View Post

This cable is the one in the Audyssey Pro Kit. Works fine for me. USB to Serial Cable


Thanks hulkss,

I have noticed in numerous threads that a straight serial cable works well most of the time versus the issues posed by usb/serial adapters. I have a notebook and desktop available with XP that have a standard RS-232 port and have tried both including adjusting speeds. It's getting to be a bit frutrating!

I wonder if my firmware is old enough that I need to try an interim version before flashing to 1.04?
post #1386 of 3106
Anyone have a previous Main firmware for an 886?

Mine is 87 0.01/08409a
post #1387 of 3106
That is previous to 1.04!
post #1388 of 3106
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Originally Posted by hulkss View Post

Just change the monitor out to HDMI Sub. Not sure why you are messing with the main TV or Audio?


Because on my main system I do not send sound through HDMI to the TV. On the Sub system, I need too.
post #1389 of 3106
I used a straight through serial cable with a native RS232 COM1 port on my laptop repeatedly without a single issue.
Check if COM1 is been used by another program and as such blocking access.

I start the updater prog first, having the cable connected and the unit turned off.
Then I switch the unit into updater mode.
After that I start the "Main Update" in the update soft.

Works fine every time on the first try by clearing the remote flash memory and then continues ...


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Originally Posted by JEF View Post

Thanks hulkss,

I have noticed in numerous threads that a straight serial cable works well most of the time versus the issues posed by usb/serial adapters. I have a notebook and desktop available with XP that have a standard RS-232 port and have tried both including adjusting speeds. It's getting to be a bit frutrating!

I wonder if my firmware is old enough that I need to try an interim version before flashing to 1.04?
post #1390 of 3106
There doesn't exist a 0.01 Main firmware.
You probably mean 1.01...

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Originally Posted by JEF View Post

Anyone have a previous Main firmware for an 886?

Mine is 87 0.01/08409a
post #1391 of 3106
Thanks for the reply gurkey.

I know that there shouldnt be a 0.01, but 0.01 is what is displayed. I did flash the DSP's successfully, they were originally listed as:

SR9061 08320A
SR9062 08404A
SR9063 08404A

When I use the update prog, the diplay does go to the "Search F/W". Would this indicate that I have an rs-232 connection? If the speed is not 9600, then this does not happen. If I then manually switch to 9600, I get the search f/w again.
post #1392 of 3106
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Originally Posted by JEF View Post

Thanks for the reply gurkey.

I know that there shouldnt be a 0.01, but 0.01 is what is displayed. I did flash the DSP's successfully, they were originally listed as:

SR9061 08320A
SR9062 08404A
SR9063 08404A

When I use the update prog, the diplay does go to the "Search F/W". Would this indicate that I have an rs-232 connection? If the speed is not 9600, then this does not happen. If I then manually switch to 9600, I get the search f/w again.

JEF,

You are starting the update program "update.exe" from the folders where the firmware resides, aren't you?

In other words, don't start from "Start > Programs > updater > updater"
post #1393 of 3106
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Originally Posted by kmchenry View Post

JEF,

You are starting the update program "update.exe" from the folders where the firmware resides, aren't you?

In other words, don't start from "Start > Programs > updater > updater"

Yes,

I am seeing "Firmware Read Result" when I start update. I am getting the Requesting Receive line below that a few seconds after the 886 goes to "Searching Firmware".

I did notice if the update isnt started from the proper location, I do not get "Firmware Read Result" or if ny com port is set above 9600.

Of note:
I was a bit concerned when I ran Audyssey before the DSP updates. The 886 would not complete the "Saving" mode after multiple attempts. Even when left on overnight. Since the DSP update, it does complete everytime... whew!
post #1394 of 3106
Huh, where did everyone go.. It's Sunday, is there some game today or something...

Bob..
post #1395 of 3106
No Bob.....every one is in Church
post #1396 of 3106
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Originally Posted by Sharon L View Post

Because on my main system I do not send sound through HDMI to the TV. On the Sub system, I need too.

From the manual "When the Audio TV Out setting is set to On and you're listening through your TV's speakers, if you turn up the AV controller volume control, the sound will be output by the AV controller's speakers.

So, just set Audio TV out to "On" and leave it that way. Leave the Main TV muted. Turn up the volume on the Integra to hear it with the main TV.
post #1397 of 3106
No.

Just start the "Updater" prog from the App_Updater directory of the downloaded firmware files, where you have extracted them to.
The update files themselves reside in a directory one level beneath, but you don't need to go there.


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Originally Posted by kmchenry View Post

JEF,

You are starting the update program "update.exe" from the folders where the firmware resides, aren't you?

In other words, don't start from "Start > Programs > updater > updater"
post #1398 of 3106
Ok gurkey,

I'll give it a try this evening, I'm pretty sure I've done this. I also picked up a usb to serial to try as well, just to see if I have any luck on my htpc that has no serial port.

Just to be clear...

Run the updater.exe where the files were extracted. So I'll see the updater.exe and a folder marked "Firmware" that has another folder with the fimware inside it.

Thank you!
post #1399 of 3106
Make sure to take the one in App_Updater directory, not the one in the SetupUpdater ...


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Originally Posted by JEF View Post

Ok gurkey,

I'll give it a try this evening, I'm pretty sure I've done this. I also picked up a usb to serial to try as well, just to see if I have any luck on my htpc that has no serial port.

Just to be clear...

Run the updater.exe where the files were extracted. So I'll see the updater.exe and a folder marked "Firmware" that has another folder with the fimware inside it.

Thank you!
post #1400 of 3106
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Originally Posted by gurkey View Post

No.

Just start the "Updater" prog from the App_Updater directory of the downloaded firmware files, where you have extracted them to.
The update files themselves reside in a directory one level beneath, but you don't need to go there.

Thats what I said - Just in a more general way which is why I said "Folders".

And JEF had confirmed he was seeing the correct response messages from the updater, so it sounds like a problem with the 9.9.
post #1401 of 3106
I'm confused on the video set-up in the DHC-9.9. Hope someone can help.

First, in the Monitor Out set -up on P.103 in the manual, we have the various parameters (Resolution, Brightness, Contrast etc.)

Then, when we go to the Picture Adjust in the "Source Set-up", under ISF mode, we have the same parameters (Resolution etc.) for each source (DVD, VCR/DVR etc. P.120}

If we do the set up for Source #1 (let's say DVD), why do we have to do it again on the Monitor Out? Any source would have to go through either Main or Sub Monitor. And what happens if the two do not agree. For example, if I set the Brightness on the Monitor Out to be 10 and the Brightness for the Source #1 (DVD) to be 20, which one would take precedence? Does the parameter set-up in the source have to agree with that in the Monitor Out? How do we set one relative to the other?

The DVD player going into the DHC-9.9 and the projector that accepts the DHC-9.9 have their own set-up parameters for video. How should I set these up relative to the DHC-9.9 and relative to one another? If I want to use only the DHC 9.9 for processing, what should I do with the set-up parameters in the DVD and the projector? Do I set them all to zero?

I've heard that it's good to just use one component (e.g. the pre-pro or the projector) to do all the processing? If so, which is the best one to use?

I'd appreciate if someone could help me have a clear idea on how to approach the video set-up in my system. Perhaps a good reference where I could read up on the subject would help a lot. Thanks.
post #1402 of 3106
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Originally Posted by chiusheung View Post

I'm confused on the video set-up in the DHC-9.9. Hope someone can help.

First, in the Monitor Out set -up on P.103 in the manual, we have the various parameters (Resolution, Brightness, Contrast etc.)

Then, when we go to the Picture Adjust in the "Source Set-up", under ISF mode, we have the same parameters (Resolution etc.) for each source (DVD, VCR/DVR etc. P.120}

If we do the set up for Source #1 (let’s say DVD), why do we have to do it again on the Monitor Out? Any source would have to go through either Main or Sub Monitor. And what happens if the two do not agree. For example, if I set the Brightness on the Monitor Out to be 10 and the Brightness for the Source #1 (DVD) to be 20, which one would take precedence? Does the parameter set-up in the source have to agree with that in the Monitor Out? How do we set one relative to the other?

The DVD player going into the DHC-9.9 and the projector that accepts the DHC-9.9 have their own set-up parameters for video. How should I set these up relative to the DHC-9.9 and relative to one another? If I want to use only the DHC 9.9 for processing, what should I do with the set-up parameters in the DVD and the projector? Do I set them all to zero?

I’ve heard that it’s good to just use one component (e.g. the pre-pro or the projector) to do all the processing? If so, which is the best one to use?

I’d appreciate if someone could help me have a clear idea on how to approach the video set-up in my system. Perhaps a good reference where I could read up on the subject would help a lot. Thanks.


The first thing to remember is that you don’t have to use any of the 9.9 processing. Just set everything to “Through” and be done with it.

The way to understand the system is as follows:
1. There is a Monitor Output which is global adjustments that affects ALL SIGNALS being processed from all inputs.
2. There is a Source Setup which affects only the specific input signal.

As example, If you adjust the Monitor Output Contrast by +3, all inputs (signals) will go up by +3. If you decided that perhaps the DVD input contrast is too high, you would adjust the DVD Source Input Contrast down (it would still be at zero) to perhaps -2, so the overall adjustment for the DVD input and the Monitor Output would yield a +1. ( +3 and -2= +1 )

If you want to use only the Source Setup and not use the Monitor Output adjustments, just set the Monitor Output to SOURCE and leave everthing at the default zero.

Hope this helps.
post #1403 of 3106
Hi John,

Thanks for your quick reply.

Should I be doing anything on the DVD player and the projector as far as setting the video parameters is concerned? Is it advisable to have processing in all the components (DVD player, pre/pro, and projector)?

Thanks again.
post #1404 of 3106
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Originally Posted by chiusheung View Post

Hi John,

Thanks for your quick reply.

Should I be doing anything on the DVD player and the projector as far as setting the video parameters is concerned? Is it advisable to have processing in all the components (DVD player, pre/pro, and projector)?

Thanks again.

It depends on which device has the better processor. I have found in my case that the components (DVD, Monitor,etc.) have the better processing and I just don't use the Integra. For example I have an old VCR that is used on rare cases. I found that the Monitor did a better upconversion to 1080P then my Integra. It was close but still a visable change.

The less processing in the supply chain, the less problems.
post #1405 of 3106
Well gentlemen:

Still no luck, I also tried a usb adapter for grins and giggles.

I'm not grinning and I'm not giggling!

I do get request received if I am at correct speed. I'm wondering if it has to do with the 0.01 version I'm seeing?
post #1406 of 3106
Any idea why my volume won't adjust above +5.5 (relative mode)? The limit is set to zero, and if I set it to between +1 and +5 it does limit accordingly, but if I set it to anything higher and the volume stops at +5.5. Same thing whether I use HDMI or Optical inputs, and any of three different sources. What am I missing?
post #1407 of 3106
Well it's official, I can't take it anymore!!! So, I guess I'm going to place an order for a 9.9. As an owner of an Integra Research 7.1, I am justifiably disgusted by both the lack of customer service that I've had the displeasure of personally experiencing, and broken promises of upgradability for my three-year-old $5000 Pre/Pro. However, there's simply no other game in town at, or near this price ( I've learned a painful lesson and now view a modern Pre/Pro as something to be replaced more often than any other piece of gear). Also, what's good enough for kal, is good enough for me ( Stereophile recommended component, with a B grade no less).

The only problem is that I do not hold my technical abilities in high enough regard to even attempt a DSP/ firmware upgrade on my own. I do not believe that at this point I will invest in a pro-calibration of Audyssey or ISF, so is it any concern that my unit my not come with the latest updates?

Evan
post #1408 of 3106
May be Audysseys level setup criteria overlapping / interfering ?

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Originally Posted by sjsche View Post

Any idea why my volume won't adjust above +5.5 (relative mode)? The limit is set to zero, and if I set it to between +1 and +5 it does limit accordingly, but if I set it to anything higher and the volume stops at +5.5. Same thing whether I use HDMI or Optical inputs, and any of three different sources. What am I missing?
post #1409 of 3106
A current pre/pro now has almost the same life cycle and expectancy as a modern laptop or PC or any other computerized gadget .
That's life...

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Originally Posted by Evanfew View Post

Well it's official, I can't take it anymore!!! So, I guess I'm going to place an order for a 9.9. As an owner of an Integra Research 7.1, I am justifiably disgusted by both the lack of customer service that I've had the displeasure of personally experiencing, and broken promises of upgradability for my three-year-old $5000 Pre/Pro. However, there's simply no other game in town at, or near this price ( I've learned a painful lesson and now view a modern Pre/Pro as something to be replaced more often than any other piece of gear). Also, what's good enough for kal, is good enough for me ( Stereophile recommended component, with a B grade no less).

The only problem is that I do not hold my technical abilities in high enough regard to even attempt a DSP/ firmware upgrade on my own. I do not believe that at this point I will invest in a pro-calibration of Audyssey or ISF, so is it any concern that my unit my not come with the latest updates?

Evan
post #1410 of 3106
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Originally Posted by Evanfew View Post

The only problem is that I do not hold my technical abilities in high enough regard to even attempt a DSP/ firmware upgrade on my own. I do not believe that at this point I will invest in a pro-calibration of Audyssey or ISF, so is it any concern that my unit my not come with the latest updates? Evan

Why not insist that it does? Seems like a reasonable request these days.
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