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post #991 of 1130
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Originally Posted by DJWikiera View Post

What I did was disable onboard audio function in BIOS and uninstalled Realtek drivers. Make sure you leave HDMI audio (Auto) in Bios. Now I get multichannel to my Onkyo 705.

Thanks DJ for the suggestion, but it did not change anything for me (except that I lost all the sound, lol).

I went through PowerDVD manual and I had the feeling that HDMI output was only available under Vista... and I am on MCE 2005...

Is it possible to have an HDMI output under this OS with an 9400 chipset ?
post #992 of 1130
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Originally Posted by AbMagFab View Post

If you want reliable RAID 5, you really need to buy a hardware solution (i.e. card). Check newegg, but HighPoint and Promise are reasonably priced solutions with a lot of capabilities (like on-line array expansion, hot spares, auto rebuild, etc.).

Mobo RAID is a bad idea, as it's both less functional and harder to move from machine to machine (you can move the card to a new machine and maintain the RAID array).

Software and free RAID is also sketchy. You'll get what you pay for.

I'm not a fan of UnRAID, but that's just me. I like real, traditional RAID-5.

I'm not trying to build an outboard RAID system at this time. More of "baby steps" thing. I just have (3) 1TB drives that are internally mounted in my HTPC case that I was trying to find the best, safest way to use them. I've already spent more putting this together than my wife really was going along with. Know what I mean???
post #993 of 1130
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Originally Posted by dafaulty1 View Post

I have the same EVGA board that Hogweed returned. I had a black screen for the longest time also and my problem was the error 7F. Which is a (post error check) check POST error and display them and ask for user intervention. Which usually means the BIOS is not matching your configuration. This might be the floppy drive or lack of one that is installed. Or that was the problem with the EVGA one that Im using.

Heres my solution for the EVGA 730i that I was having problems with.

To get around this try hitting the F1 key. I believe it is that one. Otherwise it might have been the F2, or delete key but hit the F1 key and see if the code changes to FF. If its changes to FF then the problem is a display output problem. Are you using the onboard video? VGA or HDMI? I believe the DVI would need to be enabled by disabling the HDMI in BIOS before you can use it so maybe try the VGA or HDMI? BY hitting the F1 key it allowed me to see the bios otherwise I was looking at a black screen. Once in the bios I disabled the floppy and I was ready to go.

Thanks for the suggestion. Today I tried an old PNY memory stick and the the thing booted right up. So I think the problem is the Corsair TWIN2X2048-8500C5D Memory sticks I was using want like 2.1 volts and the mother board only provides 1.8V by default. I guess I could up the voltage and reinstall the Corsair memory, but I don't want to have to open the box every time I flash the BIOS. So I ordered some inexpensive Kingston memory that appears on the supported memory list. It cost $10 per Gig, lol, I paid $100 per Gig for the Corsair memory a couple years ago. I guess I didn't mention before the board was emitting long, repeating 5 sec beeps from the speaker I installed with the old memory.

Again, thanks for the suggestion.
post #994 of 1130
If you talk to anyone who is a) using Raid for media storage and b) switched from hardware raid to unRaid, you'll find someone who will NEVER look back ... the advantages are just so huge! It's anything BUT sketchy....

post #995 of 1130
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Originally Posted by jimwhite View Post

If you talk to anyone who is a) using Raid for media storage and b) switched from hardware raid to unRaid, you'll find someone who will NEVER look back ... the advantages are just so huge! It's anything BUT sketchy....


That's a little bit too cryptic for me. Which has huge advantages and what is sketchy?
post #996 of 1130
unRaid has the advantages and someone said software raid was "sketchy"...

check the unRaid wiki at lime technology for all the info....

post #997 of 1130
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Originally Posted by jimwhite View Post

unRaid has the advantages and someone said software raid was "sketchy"...

check the unRaid wiki at lime technology for all the info....


+1 as an unRAID fan. Very simple to build a neat and reliable unRAID server. From the bits arriving to my server being up and running it took less than 60 mins... (Try installing Windows in that time, let alone building an entire system from scratch...)

I am very impressed - it works, it works reliably, it is well supported and it is pretty fast. (I'm getting 60MB/s transfer speeds via Ethernet using a not very expensive build - LE1640 CPU, Samsung Spinpoint drives, AMD 740 based motherboard)
post #998 of 1130
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Originally Posted by Hogweed75 View Post

I'm not trying to build an outboard RAID system at this time. More of "baby steps" thing. I just have (3) 1TB drives that are internally mounted in my HTPC case that I was trying to find the best, safest way to use them. I've already spent more putting this together than my wife really was going along with. Know what I mean???

If all you ever want is those three drives, then you can do whatever you want. If you plan to grow the RAID array over time, then you really want to invest in a real RAID card today, otherwise you'll have to rebuild from scratch each time.
post #999 of 1130
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Originally Posted by jimwhite View Post

If you talk to anyone who is a) using Raid for media storage and b) switched from hardware raid to unRaid, you'll find someone who will NEVER look back ... the advantages are just so huge! It's anything BUT sketchy....


Show me one enterprise using "UnRaid". It's a good consumer-level psuedo-RAID, and it's easy to use and manage. But it's not real RAID at all.

If you want RAID, do RAID. If you want some software driven data redundancy, you have lots of options, like UnRaid, Windows Home Server, and others.

But nothing beats RAID. There's a reason why every data center and enterprise uses RAID (usually RAID 5 or RAID 5+1).
post #1000 of 1130
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Originally Posted by codegrey View Post

Thanks for the suggestion. Today I tried an old PNY memory stick and the the thing booted right up. So I think the problem is the Corsair TWIN2X2048-8500C5D Memory sticks I was using want like 2.1 volts and the mother board only provides 1.8V by default. I guess I could up the voltage and reinstall the Corsair memory, but I don't want to have to open the box every time I flash the BIOS. So I ordered some inexpensive Kingston memory that appears on the supported memory list. It cost $10 per Gig, lol, I paid $100 per Gig for the Corsair memory a couple years ago. I guess I didn't mention before the board was emitting long, repeating 5 sec beeps from the speaker I installed with the old memory.

Again, thanks for the suggestion.

Hi codegrey,

Please tell us how it goes with this board. It seems to be unpopular du to its size (ATX).

Things I'm curious about

-NB heat
-Stability
-Overall impressions
-Problems or dislike, if any, related to the board.

Your setup, as a comparison.

Thanks,

Charles
post #1001 of 1130
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Originally Posted by Hogweed75 View Post

I'm also having a problem if I leave the HTPC on and turn off the TV. When I come back (much later) I can't get an image on the screen. I've tried clicking the keyboard and mouse, unplugging the HDMI and replugging it, etc. I end up rebooting. Any settings that I can try for this?

Loading a Profile by a Hotkey

I think the problem is not so serious as Radeon GPUs. Just save your NVIDIA Control Panel settings as a profile (Menu bar > Profiles > Save; say, profile1.nvp) at the default location and reload it when the problem occurs. Use a hotkey to do so: Install AutoHotkey. Save the following script as, say, Hotkeys.ahk at any location you like. Double click it and you are ready. You can automatically load the script at Windows startup: right-click Start and click "Explore All Users"; add a shortcut to Hotkeys.ahk in the Programs > Startup folder.

Code:
SetKeyDelay 750

;NVIDIA Control Panel Profiles

#1::
Run nvCplUI
WinWait NVIDIA Control Panel
Send !pl
WinWait Load Desktop Profile
Send profile1.nvp
Send !c
Send !d
Send !3
Send !o{Space}
Send !a
Send {Enter}
WinWait NVIDIA Control Panel
Send y
WinWait Apply Changes
Send y
WinClose NVIDIA Control Panel
Return
"#1" means the hotkey Windows Logo+1. You can assign any hotkey of course. You can define as many hotkeys as you like in the same file (repeat (hotkey):: ... Return). The first line "SetKeyDelay 750" can be omitted (0.75 seconds between two keystrokes; I added it just to see what's happening slowly). Please read the Help file of AutoHotkey (or its website) for the meaning of each command. You can switch between 24Hz and 60Hz instantly with this method (just create a profile for each refresh rate). See also script to change from 50p to 1080/24p.

Speaker Setup by a Hotkey

You can assign a hotkey to each speaker configuration: Stereo, 5.1 Channel, and 7.1 Channel.

Code:
;Speaker Setup

#s::
Run rundll32.exe Shell32.dll`,Control_RunDLL Mmsys.cpl`,`,0
WinWait Sound
Send {Down}
Send !c
Send s
Send !n!n!f
Send {Enter}
Return

#6::
Run rundll32.exe Shell32.dll`,Control_RunDLL Mmsys.cpl`,`,0
WinWait Sound
Send {Down}
Send !c
Send 5
Send !n!n!n!f
Send {Enter}
Return

#8::
Run Rundll32.exe Shell32.dll`,Control_RunDLL Mmsys.cpl`,`,0
WinWait Sound
Send {Down}
Send !c
Send 7
Send !n!n!n!f
Send {Enter}
Return
where

- Windows Logo+s = Stereo
- Windows Logo+6 = 6 channel
- Windows Logo+8 = 8 channel

Append the above to Hotkeys.ahk.
post #1002 of 1130
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Originally Posted by AbMagFab View Post

Show me one enterprise using "UnRaid". It's a good consumer-level psuedo-RAID, and it's easy to use and manage. But it's not real RAID at all.

Absolutely - it has some advantages and some disadvantages over real RAID.

Advantage is that files remain intact if more than just the redundant drives die.

Disadvantage is that the lack of striping means you don't get the performance benefits of RAID - though the use of a Parity drive does give you some redundancy.

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If you want RAID, do RAID. If you want some software driven data redundancy, you have lots of options, like UnRaid, Windows Home Server, and others.

Yep - absolutely depends what you want, and how much you want to spend.

WHS seems to be getting bogged down with bells and whistles, and unless you use it with RAID hardware it gets quite messy (AIUI you have to duplicate rather than parity protect for redundancy if you don't use RAID hardware?)

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But nothing beats RAID. There's a reason why every data center and enterprise uses RAID (usually RAID 5 or RAID 5+1).

Yep - horses for courses. I want a degree of protection - which unRaid's parity drive provides, but I also value the protection to my data of the files on each drive remaining readable in the event of multiple drives failing.

The ease of build, install and management is also important for semi-casual users. None of the data being stored in my unRaid system is vital - but equally if I can protect myself from losing it, I don't see why I shouldn't!
post #1003 of 1130
Now just to be clear for me. I can run Unraid on the HTPC correct? Meaning that I have one 250GB main drive and three 1TB drives in the same case running off the same Gigabyte MB. I'm running Vista 63 and I can run Unraid from the 250GB drive controlling the three 1TB drives correct? Or can I only run Unraid in a seperate case?
post #1004 of 1130
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Originally Posted by renethx View Post

I think the problem is not so serious as Radeon GPUs. Just save your settings as a profile (say profile1.nvp) at the default location and reload it when the problem occurs. Use a hotkey to do so (I think 180.48 still lack hotkeys?). Install AutoHotkey. Save the following script as, say, Hotkeys.ahk. Right-click it and click "Run Script" (you can automatically load the script at Windows startup).
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You can also use hotkeys to switch between 24Hz and 60Hz and switch between 5.1 and 7.1 speakers instantly.

Thank you! This is the type of workaround I was looking for and works fine for me. And the other hotkeys you mentioned are very useful. I was previously either being careful to make sure my AVR was switched to the HTPC before waking it or forcing the PC back to sleep and awaking it.
post #1005 of 1130
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Originally Posted by Hogweed75 View Post

Now just to be clear for me. I can run Unraid on the HTPC correct? Meaning that I have one 250GB main drive and three 1TB drives in the same case running off the same Gigabyte MB. I'm running Vista 63 and I can run Unraid from the 250BGT drive controlling the three 1TB drives correct? Or can I only run Unraid in a seperate case?

No - unRAID is a Linux-based operating system designed for separate servers that boots from a USB flash drive, not for use within an HTPC box. You can't run in it under Vista.

If you want RAID for your HTPC then you need to run RAID.

Those of us running unRAID have moved our main movie / music storage to an unRAID server (which can be sited away from the main living area, and allows more storage than can be accommodated in a living-room friendly HTPC case) and are connecting this to our HTPC(s) via Gigabit Ethernet.

I built an unRAID server for a lot less than a 4-drive NAS enclosure - and have space for 12 drives in it.
post #1006 of 1130
Thank you sneals2000! I wasn't sure on this. Perfectly clear explanation on the Unraid. The Unraid forum link will help. These forums have been an amazing learning area for me.

Maybe fore now I'll run RAID 5 from the MB and slowly start working on a Unraid server.

Also thanks for the Hotkey info renethx! I'll give that a try this weekend. The HTPC seems to come on all by itself during the night for some reason. I'll need to check into why it doing that. When I get up in the morning it's on and I just get a blank screen on the TV. I've been having to just press the front button to turn it off. Hopefully the Hotkey setup[ will work.
post #1007 of 1130
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Originally Posted by Hogweed75 View Post

Thank you sneals2000! I wasn't sure on this. Perfectly clear explanation on the Unraid. The Unraid forum link will help. These forums have been an amazing learning area for me.

Maybe fore now I'll run RAID 5 from the MB and slowly start working on a Unraid server.

Also thanks for the Hotkey info renethx! I'll give that a try this weekend. The HTPC seems to come on all by itself during the night for some reason. I'll need to check into why it doing that. When I get up in the morning it's on and I just get a blank screen on the TV. I've been having to just press the front button to turn it off. Hopefully the Hotkey setup[ will work.

It could be VMC updating guide data. I can't remember if "Optimize Media Center" is on by default, but I believe the default time to optimize is 3:00am.
post #1008 of 1130
It's a bit of a hack, but I did manage, some time ago, to get unRaid running in a VM with VirtualPC on a Vista box... you're limited to 4 drives if I recall correctly... a hack, but doable...

post #1009 of 1130
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Originally Posted by bondisdead View Post

Now that I've switched over to the plug-in Gigabit Ethernet card, i have had no issues with hanging on waking from sleep. I do have occasional issues with the computer staying on, even when it's idle, but no hanging. That issue I have on other vista computers as well, so I'm not overly concerned about it (just annoyed). The computer hanging in the "funky" state went away once I disabled the onboard ethernet. Who knows, it might just be a coincidence. If you'd like, I can take my computer apart and try some more testing.

I am using the latest video driver downloaded from the nVidia site (180.48). I believe I had the same problem with the previous video driver.

Since I have a workaround for the hang issue, my concern now is the display resolution changing. It is quite annoying to reset this everytime I wake the computer up! I might as well turn off the computer. If I put the computer to sleep, then wake it back up, I have no problems. Its only when there has been a wake, followed by going to sleep (due to idle timeout) cycle with the connected display turned off. I do have a custom resolution as I use the nVidia utility to Resize my Desktop. Perhaps this is the problem? I'll try it again without a custom resolution.

Thanks for your help. Just curious who the "we" is that is debugging this issue?

UPDATE: Looks like the issue with the resolution changing only occurs when you've setup a custom resolution via the nVidia "Resize Desktop" utility. I do this because I am losing a bit of the sides of the desktop when displayed on my HDTV Projector. I effectively make a custom resolution. Well it looks like this gets "reset" to the default minimum resolution when you awake the board with the display turned off. Meanwhile, if i just use the maximum resolution (1920x1080) and don't resize the desktop to create a custom resolution, the computer can wake/sleep/wake with or without the display on, and the resolution is remembered.

Updating my own post, as it looks like I'm not the only person with this problem. This is from another thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2#post15210022
post #1010 of 1130
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Originally Posted by jschoorl View Post

Best MCE plugin available in my opinion. Great with powerDVD to play your ripped HD and Blue Ray disk.

I like the look of this one better from Movie collector http://www.collectorz.com/movie/wind...center-mce.php
and for a Blu-Ray player inside MCE I would go for TMT
post #1011 of 1130
Sorry if this is a silly question I have a really slim Hiper HTPC case that I'm looking to upgrade the components. Only a 200w PSU, 1U (if not smaller) profile. So what I'm looking for is the coolest CPU I can go with (and least amount of CPU cooling) to still be able to play back my BD and HD DVD rips from MKV with a 9300 or 9400. Suggestions?
post #1012 of 1130
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Originally Posted by mrtwstr View Post

Sorry if this is a silly question I have a really slim Hiper HTPC case that I'm looking to upgrade the components. Only a 200w PSU, 1U (if not smaller) profile. So what I'm looking for is the coolest CPU I can go with (and least amount of CPU cooling) to still be able to play back my BD and HD DVD rips from MKV with a 9300 or 9400. Suggestions?

Pentium Dual-Core E5200/E5300. Check this post for power consumption and my measurement of the power consumption of a couple of actual systems. Check this post for CPU usage at MKV playback.
post #1013 of 1130
Excellent, many thanks. Just need to find a cooler with a low enough profile to fit!
post #1014 of 1130
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Originally Posted by mrtwstr View Post

Excellent, many thanks. Just need to find a cooler with a low enough profile to fit!

The stock cooler is good enough (if it fits your case), queit and efficient. Or Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 LP.
post #1015 of 1130
MCP7A-D-SLI is an SLI version (dual x8) of MCP7A. Unfortunately onboard graphics is omitted from this chipset (well, this may not be important because we can't use Hybrid Power anyway).

ASRock releases new board N7AD-SLI based on nForce 740i SLI single chipset - OCWorkBench (December 4, 2008)

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The newly launched N7AD-SLI is a great motherboard for both practical users and gamers. Based on NVIDIA® nForce 740i SLI chipset which supports 2 x PCIE 2.0 x 16 slots for NVIDIA® SLI™ technology, N7AD-SLI is a perfect choice for DIYers . For memory support, it supports DDR2 800 with 4 DIMM slots and max. capacity up to 16GB. The motherboard is perfect for the practical user because it is designed with 2 x IEEE 1394 ports, Gigabit LAN, 6 SATAII ports, RAID and eSATA2 port, which is adequate for daily standard usage. Users can also enjoy lots of applications such as OC Tuner, an easy overclocking tool, and Smart BIOS for easy BIOS settings. Other than that, this motherboard also saves energy by providing Intelligent Energy Saver and designed with DuraCap and Extra ESD Protection.

In addition, this motherboard brings ASRock Instant Boot, which is able to boot up system in an amazing speed, it only takes 3 to 4 seconds to boot up to Windows which is 10 times faster than traditional boot up to Windows. ASRock Instant Boot can also keep your data safe, guarantee a clean Windows® OS, and consume less power!
If you value stability and reliability and are looking for an affordable and functional motherboard, then the ASRock N7AD-SLI is right for you.


LL
post #1016 of 1130
Has anyone here got a 9300/9400 wokring with AC3/DTS passthough over HDMI? 5.1 or 7.1 PCM channel sounds is not an issue, but AC3/DTS stutters :-( The receiver (Marantz SR-4200) does recognize the stream continously, but the sounds is unbearable.

Software used is Vista SP1, MPC-HC and ffdshow (both recent).
post #1017 of 1130
Unfortunately the Hiper case is REALLY slim. I think even the Freezer 7 is going to be too high for me.
post #1018 of 1130
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Originally Posted by mrtwstr View Post

Unfortunately the Hiper case is REALLY slim. I think even the Freezer 7 is going to be too high for me.

The Hiper HFA-10828-C2 should work....
post #1019 of 1130
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Originally Posted by Klaus_1250 View Post

Has anyone here got a 9300/9400 wokring with AC3/DTS passthough over HDMI? 5.1 or 7.1 PCM channel sounds is not an issue, but AC3/DTS stutters :-( The receiver (Marantz SR-4200) does recognize the stream continously, but the sounds is unbearable.

Software used is Vista SP1, MPC-HC and ffdshow (both recent).

I have no problems at all with DD/DTS/AC3 passthrough on the 9300, but I'm using MediaPortal.
post #1020 of 1130
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Originally Posted by Klaus_1250 View Post

Has anyone here got a 9300/9400 wokring with AC3/DTS passthough over HDMI? 5.1 or 7.1 PCM channel sounds is not an issue, but AC3/DTS stutters :-( The receiver (Marantz SR-4200) does recognize the stream continously, but the sounds is unbearable.

Software used is Vista SP1, MPC-HC and ffdshow (both recent).

try ac3filter and select AC3/DTS passthrough
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