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post #151 of 276
2/24/09 at 5:46pm
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Sam,

Great looking theater! BTW, where did you get the sconces, do you remember the model #? I'm looking for something long like these for my theater.

Eric


Thanks Eric, about the sconces, they worked great for me because I needed something on the thinner side, most sconces are too wide, and I needed something under 5"-6" in width so it will fit near the screenwall area.

I just checked Lowe's website and regretfully they do not carry it anymore, I am hoping some of the local stores in CO still carry a few in stock, because I did not stock up on reserves and it would suck if I cannot find a replacement if I ever need one.

I did a google search and here is a link below which will still direct you to the Lowe's website, but at least there is some info for you to check out.


Brand: Portfolio
Item # 238361
Retailer: Lowe's (Discontinued online)

http://marketplace.hgtv.com/Product....d=2431-8062520
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post #152 of 276
2/24/09 at 5:58pm
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Nice theater, a titanic amount of work, I'd never be able to do all that.

Haha, you will be surprised what you would be able to do once you know you already spent $1000's of dollars and still have a half-way unfinished basement. There is a wealth of information and knowledge sharing, everything you need to know about is one PM or search click away. Like I said if it was not for AVS and all the help and advice I had gotten from other members like RMcVeigh, Oman, ChinaBud, TedWhite, BPape and many others, I would not dare to start such a project.


The other problem, once you know or think you know what you're doing, is to pace yourself and avoid getting burned out after weeks/months of constant work. I think I worked very hard on the framing and initial inwall insulation, wiring, and drywall in the first 3 months that I got so burned out and did not touch anything in the basement for another month, even then I got burned out again and did not do a damn thing after mid November and until mid December. I had to reschedule the carpet installation about 3 or 4 times before I was finally able to finish the chair rail lower wall area (acoustic treatment/furring/track/fabric). I had to finish that so I can install the baseboard trim so they can install carpet, which is the most recomended order of doing things (Baseboard trim then Carpet). Once carpet was installed, it took me two more weeks to get off my ass again to finish it to the point where it is today.

I think I may have logged in like 300 hours, if not more, since June 2008 on this project. With another 20-30 hours before the project is finished minus bar.
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post #153 of 276
2/24/09 at 6:05pm
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Great work, it looks really nice! I'm jealous that you look nearly done compared to my build. Great to see another Colorado build nearing completion!


Thanks man, it was a lot of hardwork. I really did not want to spend 2-3 years on the construction, I really actually wanted to have it completed in under 6 months from start to finish but that was impossible, so it took me an extra 3 months, as long as I can finish everything minus the bar in under 10-12 months I will very happy. It takes a lot of work and dedication, so my best non-technical advice is to force yourself to go down to the basement, a few hours during the week and do a good 8-10 hours marathon on weekends and what helped me the most is putting some entertainment down in te dreadful at-the-time-unfinished basement. I brought my old 25" Tube CRT TV and plugged in my PS3 and my Archos Video/MP3 player and played movies, SouthPark, watched TV while working. It made the unfinished basement a little less boring and more fun to work in.

Anyways, hope you progress soon with your build and please feel free to ask any questions, thats what I did.
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post #154 of 276
2/24/09 at 6:17pm
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Heluuuu der sam!

Comin'atcha from my PDA...(Sprint 3G Mogul )....so this will be short (... I just ushered in my 4th Grandchild -a Boy!) Gotcher Pm while taking a break and wanted to check out your Thread. Do you realize what my poor Phone just went through!!!! 5 minutes it was completely locked up.

But I got it all....

As a "DIY" Home Theater Builder myself, just let me say that your amount of consideration for all the things most others "space" on or opt to not bother with is exemplary and exceptional. You were faced with less than optimal space and made the most of the circumstances....and a bit more to boot!

So much to comment on, and with all of the required plaudits....you'd get a big head. For now I'll just say I'm planning a trip to CO soon to visit my Son (a Semi-Pro Sno Boarder) and if he doesn't get me buried or broken...I'll try to see if we can hook up and share some CO Micro.

Did you decide on the projector? I'd strongly suggest the RS-20 as it's total lumen output, combined with a much higher "Native" CR than the 7500 makes it the PJ of choice....if for no other reason than it's contrast alone.

I've installed the Epson "UBs" (1080s-6100s-6500s) as well, and find extremely little to fault in them, (hardly a thing considering the price...) but as in so much else in A/V...if ya can pinch & save elsewhere and hold $$$ in reserve for the big items, in this case the $1200.00 or so difference between the 7500 and RS-20 will pay you a continuing dividend.

But fer shur you won't bitch and moan over the Epson as a choice if that is your decision. You just might have to stay in a slightly less than optimized Video Mode to get that 135"er to deliver you the best possible image. I say this because even with the JVC's Iris fully open,and with it calibrated, it's Native Contrast will smoke the 7500's. And if you have the Lumens....and the Contrast....your image will most certainly be up to par with the rest of your effort. Let us know how the AT Screen "as is" performs. My recommendation is based on your hopefully being satisfied enough with the resulting image that you can just stop....and enjoy the fruits of your labor.

Getting 's from the Wife. Awwww...they seldom understand such "testosterone infused" subjects. B'Sides, I got 3 outher'uns. (Grandkids...not wives!) I just couldn't resist givin' some credit where its due.

Congrats about your new grandchild and Sorry about the PDA lock up, I should have forthwarned you if I knew you werent on your computer. BTW, I did purchase the JVC RS20 and I should be getting it this Friday. I did a side by side demo and posted my review in the DISPLAYS section and the RS20/RS10 smoked the Epson 7500 by a long mile! The 7500ub will look great until you put it side by side with the RS20. So it was worth spend the extra $2500 IMHO.

Thanks for your compliments on the theater, let me know when you're in town and we can definitely hit the slopes, I snowboard as well but I am not a pro. I would be happy to have you check out the theater too. I did spend a fair amount in pre-analyzing and thinking of everything I can implement down the road, and if it was a matter of throwing a few extra studs on the wall, or running CAT6 and Strings with all my speaker and video runs through Resigard and Smurf tubes, I did just that. I also preran power and USB into the ceiling for future StarPanel if I ever wanted one. I tried to think of everything I would want to do in the next 2-3 years and preplanned for it. It takes a little bit of extra time and effort but it makes the theater virtually future-proof
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post #155 of 276
2/24/09 at 8:32pm
Awesome!!!

I have to say, that going thru all the pics while listening to Breaking Benjamin via my XBMC, PJ, and wireless Sennheisers made me a little weepy (not!)...great job!

I can't wait to see the screen wall pics.

MM - hey, I still need to paint my screen....PM me if you're going to be in CO since I'm so lazy.
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post #156 of 276
2/24/09 at 8:57pm
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Awesome!!!

I have to say, that going thru all the pics while listening to Breaking Benjamin via my XBMC, PJ, and wireless Sennheisers made me a little weepy (not!)...great job!

I can't wait to see the screen wall pics.

MM - hey, I still need to paint my screen....PM me if you're going to be in CO since I'm so lazy.

Thanks Erik, BTW I don't think I understand your last comment. I live in CO, north east of Denver. I am not painting my screen, I will be using the same AT fabric used by SMX and SeymourAV screens. Sorry if I am misunderstanding you.
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post #157 of 276
2/24/09 at 9:58pm
Hey damnsam77 just built an awesome home theater room AND killed Kenny!! You b@st@rd!!! Great work, cant wait to see the finished product. Your wife does know that you will be hibernating down there for about a year after it's done right? Beer, food, and an awesome home theater setup, who needs fresh air!
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post #158 of 276
2/24/09 at 10:03pm
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Your wife does know that you will be hibernating down there for about a year after it's done right? Beer, food, and an awesome home theater setup, who needs fresh air!

I have been preparing her for the envitable initial basement hibernation period, wish I had the extra money to plumb for a bath room and a shower, I would move all my clothes into the crawl space and live down there for a few months. I got a ton of bluray movies that I have refused to open or watch until the theater is finished. So it will be months before I see the outdoor light...hehe, thanks again dude!
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post #159 of 276
2/25/09 at 4:50am
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Congrats about your new grandchild and Sorry about the PDA lock up, I should have forthwarned you if I knew you werent on your computer. BTW, I did purchase the JVC RS20 and I should be getting it this Friday. I did a side by side demo and posted my review in the DISPLAYS section and the RS20/RS10 smoked the Epson 7500 by a long mile! The 7500ub will look great until you put it side by side with the RS20. So it was worth spend the extra $2500 IMHO.

A Wise man making wise choices knoweth no regrets.


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MM - hey, I still need to paint my screen....PM me if you're going to be in CO since I'm so lazy.


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Thanks dude, BTW I don't think I understand your last comment. I live in CO, north east of Denver. I am not painting my screen, I will be using the same AT fabric used by SMX and SeymourAV screens. Sorry if I am misunderstanding you.

MM= MississippiMan

'scuse the OT crash......Audixium has conversed w/me before about painting a DIY Screen and read my comments to you about coming into CO for a visit and shot a arrow my direction. Sometimes that happens....'cause I sometimes attract the lunatic fringe. (jka Audixium )
..... but I did want to compliment cha!
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post #160 of 276
2/25/09 at 6:24am
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MM= MississippiMan

'scuse the OT crash......Audixium has conversed w/me before about painting a DIY Screen and read my comments to you about coming into CO for a visit and shot a arrow my direction. Sometimes that happens....'cause I sometimes attract the lunatic fringe. (jka Audixium )

Oh now I get it, no worries! Thanks MM!
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post #161 of 276
2/25/09 at 6:40am
Damn damnsam77,

That was a lot pics posted at once, having been to my thread you know how much I love pics good going. Took me about an hour to get through as I was closely trying to study them. Great work dude, very detailed on the frabric install. I love how you got such nice corners. Good thoughts on the hidden media box in the riser as well as the hidden USB trap door in the curved step.

You can probably get a hinge on the inside of that little door and perphaps a magnet catch on the other side which would push forward when pressed against. I have to incorporate a USB connection(s) into my screen wall. I hadn't really thought about it before but when we bought Rock Band this past Christmas for the kids I realized it. This gives me good ideas of what I can do, right now we have to stetch the mic. over from the media closet and your limited where you can be.

Dude you have really done a great job in such a short amount of time, you should really be proud of the work you've gotten done. Good luck with the final steps, be sure to keep snapping pics off as you go. You'll have to post screen shot pics when you get there.
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post #162 of 276
2/25/09 at 7:10am
Nice job Sam. I really like what you did with the step inlay on the riser. Very different and unique

Looks like you're getting very close to being done and being able to enjoy the results of all that hard work.

Bryan
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post #163 of 276
2/25/09 at 8:07am
Hi Sam, when you get some time can you post some pics?

It looks great. Nice colors scheme. (I am doing the same colors...) Looks like the fun is just about to start for you. Or is the fun just getting over? Can't wait to see your screen wall. I noticed the pic where you are kneeling working with the GOM. Looks like you have holes in your sock. Theater really takes a toll on the budget!
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post #164 of 276
2/25/09 at 8:35am
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Hi Sam, when you get some time can you post some pics?

It looks great. Nice colors scheme. (I am doing the same colors...) Looks like the fun is just about to start for you. Or is the fun just getting over? Can't wait to see your screen wall. I noticed the pic where you are kneeling working with the GOM. Looks like you have holes in your sock. Theater really takes a toll on the budget!

haha! I actually havent bought a single item of clothing in months, since I started the project, its sad when I would rather buy a bluray movie over a new pair of socks. And as an RS20 owner yourself, you know that wearing worn out socks with holes is a known fiscal side effect when you spend 1000's of dollars on a JVC RS20! But rest assured, I do have nice hole-free socks and I am not a bum, I just look like it after I spend 14 straight hours working in the basement ) Actually the picture you are referring to, I had worked that day from 4pm until 9am the following day without breaks or sleep, And to add more insult to injury, I had to drive to work that morning and put in 9 hours of work before I drove back home and fell into an 18 hour coma when I crashed my bed.
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post #165 of 276
2/25/09 at 8:43am
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Damn damnsam77,

That was a lot pics posted at once, having been to my thread you know how much I love pics good going. Took me about an hour to get through as I was closely trying to study them. Great work dude, very detailed on the frabric install. I love how you got such nice corners. Good thoughts on the hidden media box in the riser as well as the hidden USB trap door in the curved step.

You can probably get a hinge on the inside of that little door and perphaps a magnet catch on the other side which would push forward when pressed against. I have to incorporate a USB connection(s) into my screen wall. I hadn't really thought about it before but when we bought Rock Band this past Christmas for the kids I realized it. This gives me good ideas of what I can do, right now we have to stetch the mic. over from the media closet and your limited where you can be.

Dude you have really done a great job in such a short amount of time, you should really be proud of the work you've gotten done. Good luck with the final steps, be sure to keep snapping pics off as you go. You'll have to post screen shot pics when you get there.

Thanks Orlando,
You of all people, know all about my project, I think I may have sent you like 40 PMs over the past 9 months. So thanks for always sharing your ideas and advice.

On the hinge thing, I actually did have hinges on both compartments at first, but it actually ended up working out better without them since its so easy to remove and place the covers on the riser and the stage, and the carpet installer did a pretty good job of making it look seamless and clean. I may add inside hinges down the road but there is no immediate need for it. BTW, I have RockBand2 as well and that is one of the reasons why I did the USB runs on the stage and riser, in addition to the other multi AV runs through the riser.
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post #166 of 276
2/25/09 at 8:48am
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Nice job Sam. I really like what you did with the step inlay on the riser. Very different and unique

Looks like you're getting very close to being done and being able to enjoy the results of all that hard work.

Bryan

Thanks Bryan, I really appreciate all your help with your room analysis! I highly recommend anyone planning to sound treat their room to do the room acoustic analysis, it makes a world of difference, if my wife can tell the difference, then its worth every penny.

BTW, I dont understand what you mean by step "inlay" on the riser. Are you talking about the final quarter round design of the step? If so, this was my father's design, he is a very picky architect engineer, and when he saw my large square step, he absolutely hated it and thought that it's taking much eneded inches of walking room between the riser and right column! So he finally convinced me to redo the riser step when they were staying with us last Thanksgiving, so it took a few hours and it looked great afterwards.
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post #167 of 276
2/25/09 at 9:10am
A lot of work with a lot of pay off.

Sure looks pure awesome.

Great work!!
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post #168 of 276
2/25/09 at 9:59am
Lots Colorado people here in this thread.

I would love to see an organized a sort of making of the rounds to experience different theaters around the state.

Difficult to organize though, lots of different schedules going on and all.
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post #169 of 276
2/25/09 at 10:32am
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'scuse the OT crash......Audixium has conversed w/me before about painting a DIY Screen and read my comments to you about coming into CO for a visit and shot a arrow my direction. Sometimes that happens....'cause I sometimes attract the lunatic fringe. (jka Audixium )

Sorry for going OT, I guess I got stars in my eyes when MM strolled in Now where is Pink?

Back on topic...I'd love to see a Denver meet at damsam77's place! It would be a great way to kick things off.
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2/25/09 at 11:33am
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Lots Colorado people here in this thread.

I would love to see an organized a sort of making of the rounds to experience different theaters around the state.

Difficult to organize though, lots of different schedules going on and all.

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...I'd love to see a Denver meet at damsam77's place! It would be a great way to kick things off.


I am down for one, but you will have to give me a few more week's time to get 100+ hours on my RS20 so I can properly calibrate it. Meanwhile, while I am wasting away the first 100 hours, I will need to finish my screen wall, main wall 2" acoustic treatment and bass traps, finally set up my AV equipment, speakers, shakers, AR lens, and AV rack, and finish my little Arcade cabinet corner as it will need the whole works (furring, track, fabric, carpet patching, paint...etc). So all in all, I would think that should all be finished by late March. So we can definitely plan for a Movie night / Denver Meet sometime in late March , Early April. I just need to make sure my theater is 100% finished and my RS20 is properly calibrated before I have anyone over, I am all about first impressions
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post #171 of 276
2/25/09 at 1:01pm
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I noticed the pic where you are kneeling working with the GOM. Looks like you have holes in your sock. Theater really takes a toll on the budget!

After further inspection on the picture with the socks, I can confirm that I was wearing good hole-free socks, they just appear to have holes, its actually just some drywall power dust on the socks that make them look like they have holes, since I was working shoe-less
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post #172 of 276
2/25/09 at 1:03pm
Damn Sam, that theater sure looks purdy... I guess I no longer need to wonder what my color scheme will ultimately look like, since I am also going to do the black/red thing. Looks great.
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2/25/09 at 1:09pm
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Damn Sam, that theater sure looks purdy... I guess I no longer need to wonder what my color scheme will ultimately look like, since I am also going to do the black/red thing. Looks great.

haha, you cannot go wrong with the red/black theme with dark carpet. It looked good in my head, and looked even better implemented. I do have to say the room actually looks 10 times better in person, since I can control the lighting to different ambient degrees. The camera flash overexposed all the dusty and paint-chipped area that will need further cleaning and touchup.

BTW, I used GOM's Anchorage Onyx(Black) and Red Delicious(RED). I opted not to use the FR GOM fabric because it felt too "woolish" and rough. I will be using the FR-701 black fabric for the screen wall fabric panels and speaker grills on two columns.
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post #174 of 276
2/25/09 at 2:18pm
damnsam77,

I gotta ask....

What specifically did you determine was the singular most desirable advantage the RS-20 has over the RS-10? The 18k CR gap (50,000:1 vs 32,000:1) ?

Myself, I'm not sure that difference is worth an additional $1500.00+ more (...my lowest cost for a RS-10 @$4295.00 ) unless there is something remaining unknown as to what you spent for the RS-20.

AISB, no faulting the choice....just wanting to know the "why" as to if it was a economics vs performance decision solely or what? Usually such things go South instead of North under slight differences, unless the Compass (price) headings are not too far off. The difference between $4300.00 and $57-5900.00 seems far enough out to not warrant the difference between the two CR ratios.

Well...too me at least, but that's me.
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2/25/09 at 2:31pm
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damnsam77,

I gotta ask....

What specifically did you determine was the singular most desirable advantage the RS-20 has over the RS-10? The 18k CR gap (50,000:1 vs 32,000:1) ?

Myself, I'm not sure that difference is worth an additional $1500.00+ more (...my lowest cost for a RS-10 @$4295.00 ) unless there is something remaining unknown as to what you spent for the RS-20.

AISB, no faulting the choice....just wanting to know the "why" as to if it was a economics vs performance decision solely or what? Usually such things go South instead of North under slight differences, unless the Compass (price) headings are not too far off. The difference between $4300.00 and $57-5900.00 seems far enough out to not warrant the difference between the two CR ratios.

Well...too me at least, but that's me.


I think the difference in CR is numerically significant, but can a human eye comprehend more than 3000 or even 10,000:1 CR...probably not. But that doesnt mean that the difference in dynamics and color/grayscale range cannot be measured electronically or via all the fancy testing hardware.

So I would lie if I said that I only spent the extra $1400 to get the higher CR. The main reason why I opted for the RS20 over the RS10 is the CMS (even though its supposedly sort of broken - hopefully CMS issues can be resolved through future firmware updates). The other main technical differences were the out of the box THX calibration and certification in addition to the 16-step fixed aperture (RS20) versus 3-step fixed aperture (RS10).

But the MAIN non-technical, and more personal reason why I opted for the RS20 over the RS10, is because I had already owned the HD100 (RS2) for a short period of time last Summer before I ended up selling it in preperation for the RS20/HD750. I felt like the RS10 only had small incremental upgrades over the HD100 which already had the 30,000:1 CR. And it felt like the RS20 was more of a measurable upgrade from the HD100/RS2.
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2/25/09 at 2:47pm
I always suggest getting the best projector you can possibly afford. That is good reason alone to go with the upper model in my book.
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2/25/09 at 8:28pm
Wow! Great work!

By the way, were did you get your custom theater signs?
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post #178 of 276
2/26/09 at 6:42am
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Wow! Great work!

By the way, were did you get your custom theater signs?

All of the contractor and purchase info are on the first page (4th post i believe), but here is the info on the the big Cedar Peaks Cinema custom sign

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-Custom Theater Signs (see custom sign in first post):
JB & Nolene w/ Kiwi Signs (970)618.7163. (http://www.kiwisignsinc.com/) Based out of Glenwood Springs, CO. I also met them at a Taste of Colorado booth in Downtown Denver and they specialize in making custom signs for any room, purpose, or occasion in 3 different sizes up to 30”x12”. Signs are professionally laminated and placed over a special light 1” thick PVC board. Cost of a 30”x12” sign with customized graphics and theater name was $60. They have 1000’s or designs and they can mix and match objects and color schemes from several different signs into one sign.

The other sign is just a cheap $30 custom sign from WalMart

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=7958443

hope this helps
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post #179 of 276
2/26/09 at 10:26am
Hey Sam, congrats on making it "over the hump"! Looks great, love the colors!

--Dan
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2/26/09 at 10:47am
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Hey Sam, congrats on making it "over the hump"! Looks great, love the colors!

--Dan

Thanks Dan, that was quite the hump, I have been done with the basic construction (framing/electrical/drywall/inspection) since September 2008, it's taking me this long to turn a finished basic basement into a dedicated theater (riser/stage/screenwall/acoustic treatment/fabric/carpet/seating...etc).

-Sam
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