The "Official" Onkyo TX-SR876 Owners Thread - Page 56

Thank for your reply.
However, Horizontal Detail have nothing to do with De-Interlacing. De-Interlacing have relation with Vertical Detail. Ofcource As you know, Scaling have much to do with both Horizontal and Vertical Detail.

So, I think my problem is not caused by De-Interlacing process of SR876.
In my opinion, this is cause by improper setting of Low Pass Filter in the Video Decoder(in other words, Video A/D converter).

If I feed YPbPR 480p to SR876, the blur problem decrease(but still not good).
By the way,
What is truth is that - Both 480p and 480i have same Horizontal Detail !.
So, the H/W LPF in input circuitary can not be the reason of this problem(Since H/W gives same amount Filter Characteristic alwas~)

My guess is that, the Video Decoder(for A/D Conversion) for Analog Video Input of SR876 have different Low Pass Filter Parameter for 480i and 480p.
example : heavy LPF for 480i, and light LPF for 480p).

Anyway, I don't know Other User have this problem or not.

I would be gratful if someone gave me more advise and opinion.
And, if possible, Please let me know your own test result.

I finally took the leap this week into my new 876 but I need your help. I connected both my Directv and Sony Blu Ray by HDMI. I set the Monitor Out to analog and sent the signal to the HDTV by component out (I don't have HDMI on my older Mits).

I can't get anything but diagonal lines. Plus I get no sound. There's lots of discussion about upconversion on this thread but can I essentially downconvert from HDMI in to Component out and still get a usable signal? I've searched this thread and can't find a discussion.

Has anyone encountered this or could you point me to a thread? Many thanks!

No, you can't downconvert from HDMI to component. Check the video flowcharts in the manual.

That's right, but it is not really downcoversion (a term normally used with video resolution or sampling rate). Both HDMI and component carry HD video equally well.

What it is the requirement for HDMI to be all digital from source (player) to sink (display). It is all about not allowing digital copies. HDMI devices not only exchange info when turned on (the handshake) they exchange info every few seconds to confirm that the sink is still connected.

You're correct that downconversion is often (wrongly) used to refer to scaling. Here are some examples from the manual of how Onkyo uses the term:

With the Monitor Out setting set to HDMI
Main or HDMI Sub (see page 52), video
input signals flow through the AV receiver as
shown, with composite video, S-Video, and
component video sources all being upconverted
for the respective HDMI output.

Composite video is upconverted to S-Video
and S-Video is downconverted to composite
video.

I seem to have discovered that the on-screen menu overlay (sound level, input source etc) does not appear when playing a BR movie in PS3, but it appears again in the XMB interface.

Is anyone else having this problem? Is this a setting issue or by design?

Update: nevermind, this seems to be a 24p issue. Once 24p is disabled, the OSD appears again. weird...

A question:

Can the Onkyo only be set to play audio from the receiver directly, to play on external devices like TV via HDMI output or to do BOTH?

I have enabled HDMI>Audio Out in the menu, but it seems my receiver speakers are still playing sound, is this normal?

The image is not downcoverted to 8-bit. It is downcoverted to 10-bit. With Immediate display on, my Pioneer PDP states 30-bit (10-bit per channel). If I do anything that raises the OSD on-screen, nothing changes, it still remains at 30-bit. Switching immediate display off, and my Pioneer PDP states 36-bit.

For 1080p/24 video, I CAN enter the picture adjust settings on the front panel. I went in exactly as you said, by holding down the input selector button. I was then able to scroll through all of the adjustments for colour balance etc. However they seem to have no effect. I put brightness to 50 and it didn't change. Went off 24p and then the brightness was sky high.

Hello all, not sure if anyone has experienced remote control issues or maybe I don't have a setting correct. My Onkyo 876 is inclosed in a cabinet (see attached) since my wife does not want to see my electronic gear. The Onkyo remote works great except when I turn on my 65" Panasonic plasma. I have my remote settings to 1, the tv is outputting to the "game/tv" input via optical. I am running a IR repeater that sits on top of my tv and outputs to the IR "in" on the receiver. When the tv is on the remote does not work, as soon as I turn it off it works great Is the signal output on the Onkyo remote that weak that it can't send signals past the plasma? I read in the manual that it may not work in certain situations but this seems quite bad. All of my other equip. Panny BD, Xbox 360 and Sony cd changer all work fine, I wondering if there is a setting I missed or that I need to buy a more powerful remote.
Curious as to whether or not anyone else has experienced this, if I have a defective unit or I have not set up my receiver properly. Any advice would be apreciated.
Thank you.

^Switching to a universal remote that converts to and from RF with a repeater would probably work. The problem is your room is a wash with near IR light when the plasma is on and the poor, little IR sensor on the 876 is being bombarded with it so it has trouble seeing your remote's flash.

I think some companies also sell "plasma induced IR filters", sort of like sun glasses for your Onkyo's IR eye. I'd try googling for them.

Is that bump on top of your TV an IR eye? Get it away from there and off axis to the plasma's light output, maybe.

You aren't the only one

yeah i asked this same question a page or two back. It is a deal with blu ray or 24p.

Thanks for the info M.Zillch, I'll try moving the repeater around and see if that works. Funny that all of my other remotes and equipment works fine through the repeater, it looks like the Onkyo's remote output must be very weak, I'll try some of the solutions on the link you sent as well.
Thanks again for your advice.

I searched and couldn't see this addressed anywhere so......

when playing blu ray through my 876 when I hold the display button I see a sampling frequency of 48hz. It ALWAYS seems to say this, but I thought the new HD codecs are sampled at 96hz? Or is just that they CAN be sampled at 96? Has anyone seen their 876 show a sampling rate higher than 48hz, and if so on what?

TIA

I am considering purchasing this amp and have a related question. My TV (Sony) has a DVI input and will display 1080i. I am currently using a HDMI to DVI cable and audio cables to the TV. I also have an optical cable to my existing receiver for my Blu-ray and Fios HDDVR audio (my current receiver does not have video capabilities).

Will I be able to pass the the HDMI signal through to my TV via my current HDMI / DVI cable and still use the audio cables for sound from my TV (in addition to my 5.1 speakers)?

Thanks for the help.

I can confirm this.

i would like to know the answer to this also

Me three!!! And, who knows how to make the harmony remote buttons (like on the Harmony ONE's touch screen) stick for as long as you hold it down? There are functions that require you to hold down the button for a couple of seconds, but my Harmony just sends the signal, and then off, no matter how long you hold down the button. Am I missing something?


Thanks,
Ronman

Not all BD disks have the top level codecs, HD Master Audio or full on Dolby True Hd. DTS Master Audio for example is sampled at 96kHz, but the other versions may have or will have lesser rates. Oh and you must of course be connected using HDMI (1.3 in theory), and for some players you must disable things like secondary audio. And in the truely weird catagory not all BD disks have the HD audio codec as the default. I've encountered at least one that defaulted to DD 5.1.

Check the user manual. The Harmony One setup allows you to change a number of time or speed factors. See page 25 for an overview.

I have the 906 and have not had to change any of the Harmony timing defaults (for whatever that's worth).

Most of all blu-ray with DTS-HD Master Audio are encoded at 48khz, same for True HD.
That is the reason your 876 shows it.
I got way over 200 blu-ray in my collection and I don't recall seen a single one higher than 48khz.
I also have the 876.

______ Bob

See Post just above.

______ Bob

See just two Posts above.

As for the Harmony, you can program delay; faster or longer responses.
Check in your features on screen, or just call Logitech Harmony service
department, they will do it for you.

_______ Bob

Thanks to both of you. Trekguy, I think that while DTS-MA may be capable of being sampled at 96hz, it' s not always the case as LOTR notes.

I say this because the disc that brought the question up for me, Dark City, has a DTS-MA soundtrack that I was using, and it shows as 48 HZ on the 876.

Yes

DTS-MA supports sampling rates up to 96 kHz for 7.1 and up to 192kHz for 2.0, but soundtracks that actually go above 48 kHz are few and far between.

http://www.dts.com/~/media/B962F033C...6293C9E86.ashx

You are correct of course (and I was too stupid to remember that I have one BD MA disk I could have checked). I had in front of me a DTS "white paper" that plainly stated that the sample rate for MA was 96kHz. But of course it was an error. Other publications at the DTS have wording like this, "from source files with sample rates up to 96kHz and in stereo from source files with a sample rate of 192 kHz".

Thanks so much, guys. But, keep in mind that I'm not looking to change the command length or delay, because I wouldn't want it to do that all the time. I would only want it continue to send the IR command IF I held the button down for that long (as with the Onkyo remote). This would be for getting into some of the menu shortcuts like holding down the input key for a few seconds.

Thanks for the help,
Ronman

Hello... been reading all the forum contributions, and most of the material is way over my head. I'm glad this is anonymous, because I'm embarrassed about my narrow knowledge in this area

Might I ask one or more of you some simple questions? Here goes:

1. If I were to buy a current DVD player that "upconverted," what does my Onkyo 876 do with the (already processed) signal before it gets to my display? What are optimal Onkyo settings for components that process lower res input? Is there a "straight through," unprocessed setting?

2. I've got some pretty $$$ towers, full range (Nestorovic 5as), but I sometimes hear a low frequency "crackling" when a deep bass Dolby signal is passed to the woofers. I do not use a subwoofer, so the towers get the entire range of sound. Is this normal?

3. Is there such a thing as an "Idiots Guide to AVR," out there somewhere? As much as I research, I still need some sort of a primer in order to learn the terms you folks banter about with ease If you accelerated your learning in some way, what's the secret?

Thanks for your patience!

Tom

Thanks! Got to love a man of few words.