Originally Posted by hd_newbie
The reason I am asking these questions is I am between buying 876 and Logitech Squeezebox Duet together or 906 alone. Can 906 come close to what the Duet/876 combo can achieve? If not, since Duet + 876 is still $200 cheaper, why get 906? I am really getting confused here in seeing the value in this.
Is there anything other than torrodial sound benefits in this equation that I am missing?
I am very happy with the 876.
I purchased the 876(certified reseller
) and an HDMI cable for just about $900 less than 906 MSRP.
That is close to 50% of the 906 MSRP.
No tax, No shipping and a 30 day trial. My kinda purchase.
This is all that I needed for all media server audio & video content.
I wanted to buy the Outlaw Pre/Pro with an AMP but the cost of the 876 was just too good where that alone was 300 less than the expected Outlaw pre/pro intro price that many are still awaiting a release date.
Add close to another 2K for a balanced 7 channel 125 WPC Amp and 3K for the combo could not compete with the 876 that was very close to 2/3rds less.
I'll buy an Outlaw combo down the line so as to take advantage of Trinnov but it's Audessy until then. In all honesty my 24 bit HD music with the 876 sounds amazing in direct mode with no need for room optimization. For 2 Channel direct it's about on par with my previous Onkyo Integra where I was using a rack mount DAC but I would have expected just a bit more with latest Brown Burrs that have much higher S/N ratios to my rack mount DAC. Source limitations can only be improved so much with consumer DACs.
CDs and Ripped Lossless CD Quality sound so much better in general with DACs dating back to the first PS Audio Digital Link but it is modern multi track source master analogue to HD transfers and engineering improvements that I have experienced are far more beneficial to getting amazing knock your sox off home sound that competes with reference quality. When an artists takes the time to take action on their old masters as described it's far superior to older CDs from the 80s that get improved by just using DACs in an a Receiver or seperate scenario. The manufactures like to call it remastering but engineers do a better job.
I will use some oh the Audessy stuff for film but the surround sound modes without room optimization sound very good out of the box.
I just have a very good room and speaker setup fro the majority of sources. Once again how good the source is and can one listen at reference level.
So why do I go into great length on this issue if you are basically asking about some convenience issue? Hmm think outside the box of what these electronic companies hype. No need to invest in networking or media players if you have a vista client.
Other consideration was Denon 3808 with firmware upgrades and in my opinion the 3808, even with upgrades is not as good as the 876.
For Denon to compete with the 876 you have to look at the 4308 with upgrades and that is just way overpriced.
Hands down the Onkyo 876 is the best AMP in it's price point. It's a hairy monster. Issues with heat but hey it delivers the goods.
So for my needs the 876 at it's price point is the best for the money until an AVR or Pre/Pro with Trinnov gets released,
is a stabilized unit and comes down in price .
In the example I previously exhibited a media server, wireless router and media extender example.
Remember a Windows Vista Client is basically a media server.
Go to Linksys and read up on this stuff.
A Windows Vista Client can stream wireless audio and video to
the 876 if you have 1- wireless adapter in your vista client, 2- wireless router and 3 - a media extender
The development of Media Extenders is far more useful than a squeeze but hey for me a hard wired HDMI connection is all I need.
REsearch how inexpensive a good certified HDMI cable cost from Monoprice. My client has HDMI and SPDIF output and as I said both work very well for Audio and Video
I see no reason to spend between 300 and 500 for that Logitech for the only thing that is getting squeezed is my bank account.
I don't need Squeezebox navigation if Widows Media Center or Windows Media Player navigation gets me all of my audio and video data.
Be it wired or wireless the Windows Vista Client is all I need. Since so many of these AVR and peripheral player devices need a Vista Client anyway
why just not lest the Visa Client be the Server/Player. Even when I considered the front USB optionon the 906 that FAT32 limitation lends itself to only 4Gb
archives with folder limitations and since I already have a 1 Terabyte NTFS archive why bother with some really small device size archive limitation.
The power plant on the 876 is very good. It has no troubles driving my power hungry 4 Ohm speakers. Due to heat issues I realized ahead of time so I went ahead and purchased a Niles Fan so if you have this in a rack or somewhat enclosed entertainment system give strong consideration to a quit low voltage fan scenario such as the Niles FM-1 ,or building it yourself as has been discussed in this forum.
You can always test both out from a retailer that has a 30 day trial period.