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post #4771 of 5049
Hi Guys,

I know that this is probably not the right thread for this question but I really don't know which one it would be. The title says it all. Would like your suggestions and feedback if possible. Thank you so much.

golffnutt
post #4772 of 5049
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Originally Posted by golffnutt View Post

Hi Guys,

I know that this is probably not the right thread for this question but I really don't know which one it would be. The title says it all. Would like your suggestions and feedback if possible. Thank you so much.

golffnutt

Here's a site with reviews of some of these disc. I've only used the Avia, and its their older version. It worked when I used it. Been a while though. Good luck.


http://home-theater-calibration-revi...cs-review.html
post #4773 of 5049
I have both the DVE HD Basics disc and the Spears & Munsil High Definition Benchmark disc. Both are very good and either is adequate for setting brightness, contrast, color, tint & sharpness, although I find the S&M test patterns a bit easier to interpret.

The S&M disc offers additional tests that are helpful in experimenting with and determining such things as which color space (RGB, 4:4:4 YCbCr or 4:2:2 YCbCr) works best in your system, or which device in your chain of equipment is best suited to performing de-interlacing. Guess what... my Oppo BDP-80, which does NOT have a "premium" video processor, does a MUCH better job de-interlacing than the Reon in the 876! I hardly watch any DVD material anymore, so its not a big deal, but it was disappointing to find that out. On the other hand, the 876 was much better than either my Samsung or Panasonic TVs, which is why I output everything from my cable DVR natively and allow the 876 to upscale and de-interlace everything to 1080p before it hits the TV, even though this adds significantly to channel changing delays when switching between channels of different resolutions.

I also use the free AVS HD709 AVCHD when doing grayscale/gamma calibration with an EyeOne LT meter and HCFR software.
post #4774 of 5049
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Originally Posted by Scottie2 View Post

yes.. there is a thread titled "How to DIY ; TX-SR576/TX-SR606/etc HDMI daughterboard repair (for dummies?)" that teaches a method of replacing several defective 100uF 4V capacitors on the HDMI board. Our hdmi board is entirely different from the 606, save for the SAME 100uF 4V capacitors (13 of them). I couldnt find an example of someone who tried, so I just played guinea pig and attempted the fix on my 876 HDMI board.. it worked! HDMI functioning 100%, instant sync is back. see my post #402. just spreading the word!

has anyone else done this??? My hdmi boards been dead since the first half of the year now...link to the exact caps you ordered? Does this require soldering?
post #4775 of 5049
It does require soldering. Naturally...
You have to look at your own HDMI board to see, if the caps have gone bad, specifically the electrolytic capacitors, which are affected by higher temperatures.
post #4776 of 5049
is there visible damage I should be checking for? like brown discoloration from overheating?
post #4777 of 5049
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Originally Posted by phantom52 View Post

Here's a site with reviews of some of these disc. I've only used the Avia, and its their older version. It worked when I used it. Been a while though. Good luck.


http://home-theater-calibration-revi...cs-review.html

Thanks so much phantom52 for the link, I will definitely check them out. Have a great weekend.
post #4778 of 5049
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Originally Posted by jcalabria View Post

I have both the DVE HD Basics disc and the Spears & Munsil High Definition Benchmark disc. Both are very good and either is adequate for setting brightness, contrast, color, tint & sharpness, although I find the S&M test patterns a bit easier to interpret.

The S&M disc offers additional tests that are helpful in experimenting with and determining such things as which color space (RGB, 4:4:4 YCbCr or 4:2:2 YCbCr) works best in your system, or which device in your chain of equipment is best suited to performing de-interlacing. Guess what... my Oppo BDP-80, which does NOT have a "premium" video processor, does a MUCH better job de-interlacing than the Reon in the 876! I hardly watch any DVD material anymore, so its not a big deal, but it was disappointing to find that out. On the other hand, the 876 was much better than either my Samsung or Panasonic TVs, which is why I output everything from my cable DVR natively and allow the 876 to upscale and de-interlace everything to 1080p before it hits the TV, even though this adds significantly to channel changing delays when switching between channels of different resolutions.

I also use the free AVS HD709 AVCHD when doing grayscale/gamma calibration with an EyeOne LT meter and HCFR software.

Hi jcalabria and thank you for the detailed info, very valuable to me.

I too have the S&M disc (came with my BDP-83) but as a beginner with these discs I find it very difficult to use due to lack of instructions or directions. I have tried on several ocassions to use it but have failed completely. I know others, such as yourself, have used it and love it, I just don't understand why I can't pick it up but so far no luck. Have a great weekend and thanks again for the help, really appreciate it.
post #4779 of 5049
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Originally Posted by golffnutt View Post

Hi jcalabria and thank you for the detailed info, very valuable to me.

I too have the S&M disc (came with my BDP-83) but as a beginner with these discs I find it very difficult to use due to lack of instructions or directions. I have tried on several ocassions to use it but have failed completely. I know others, such as yourself, have used it and love it, I just don't understand why I can't pick it up but so far no luck. Have a great weekend and thanks again for the help, really appreciate it.

Have you checked out the excellent tutorial articles at the S&M website?
post #4780 of 5049
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Originally Posted by jcalabria View Post

Have you checked out the excellent tutorial articles at the S&M website?


Dummy me, nope. Will do that today, thank you for the obvious tip.
post #4781 of 5049
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Originally Posted by mach250 View Post

is there visible damage I should be checking for? like brown discoloration from overheating?

Mach250-

I do not think you will see the problem with those capacitors. No, there will be no discoloration. From the experiences of others with the TX-SR606 mostly, you will most likely get your HDMI ability back if you get the parts replaced as described by Scottie2 in his post. This type of work is not at all the first thing you should solder if you do not already have some experience, though, and posts in that discussion by people who have broken connectors or damaged the circuit board in their receivers is what I am referring to. If you do not already have experience with circuit-board part replacement, it is best to either have a technician do the work or to get some practice experience on old boards from broken TV sets or whatever. The parts needed are 100 microfarad, 16 volt, 105 degree Centigrade radial electrolytic capacitors. The repair is basically to identify and replace every one of that value on the board.
post #4782 of 5049
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Originally Posted by ana_moo_ana View Post

And still no official word of Onkyo regarding DSP update of the DTS bomb in Star Wars discs!! Not only this, they start to deny they have a problem to some members. The problem can clearly occur when you play New Hope and during playback skip to chapter 16 to hear the big fat BOM am I and some people the only one having this problem, I don't see too many people complaining?

Maybe not too many people have those discs and set their players to the bitstream mode. I have never used the bitstream mode from my HD DVD or Blu-ray players, because the players themselves can do the same job.
post #4783 of 5049
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Originally Posted by ChrisW6ATV View Post

Maybe not too many people have those discs and set their players to the bitstream mode. I have never used the bitstream mode from my HD DVD or Blu-ray players, because the players themselves can do the same job.

Hi ChrisWATV,

Was just curious about your quote above, " I have never used the bitstream". I am trying to learn something here. Is this because you feel you get a better audio when the BR players do the decoding? I have just always used bitstream because that is what the masses use. By the way I have an Oppo BDP-83 player and Onkyo 876 AVR. Should I be decoding with my 83 instead of my 876? Thanks for the education.
post #4784 of 5049
Oh, lordy, can someone help me do a quick set up for my movies/games input from a PS3? I just installed a set of side speakers for a 7.0 surround set up and I have no idea looking at the manual which selections I should choose for general surround playback. I don't think there are very many 7.1 soundtracks out there, so most need to be matrixed. Curious what the best experiences you have had with the multitude of options. I'm not interested in music surround other than SACD direct for the few mutichannel SACD's I have, as I have my inputs for the squeezebox and cd player set to pure audio. So, I just want the best settings for the PS3 input to replay bluray movies and games for 5.1-->7.0 TIA peeps.
post #4785 of 5049
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Originally Posted by Dr. Niles Crane View Post

Oh, lordy, can someone help me do a quick set up for my movies/games input from a PS3? I just installed a set of side speakers for a 7.0 surround set up and I have no idea looking at the manual which selections I should choose for general surround playback. I don't think there are very many 7.1 soundtracks out there, so most need to be matrixed. Curious what the best experiences you have had with the multitude of options. I'm not interested in music surround other than SACD direct for the few mutichannel SACD's I have, as I have my inputs for the squeezebox and cd player set to pure audio. So, I just want the best settings for the PS3 input to replay bluray movies and games for 5.1-->7.0 TIA peeps.

Be sure to rerun Audyssey after those speakers were setup. They need to be detected by the program to function properly. After running Audyssey you see those lights on the AVR light up. Can't help with the PS3 setup, I've never used one.
post #4786 of 5049
I'm reading the word doc for Audessy set up right now and will run it shortly. It appears I need to lay on the foor or something and hold the mic up in order to get an accurate reading without my body interfering?!? How lazy am I? I bought this thing in Dec of 2008 and I've never run Audessy. Now I remember why I stuck with 5.1. Geez...
post #4787 of 5049
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Originally Posted by Dr. Niles Crane View Post

I'm reading the word doc for Audessy set up right now and will run it shortly. It appears I need to lay on the foor or something and hold the mic up in order to get an accurate reading without my body interfering?!? How lazy am I? I bought this thing in Dec of 2008 and I've never run Audessy. Now I remember why I stuck with 5.1. Geez...

There's a dedicated thread for setting that thing up with Audyssey. Also a camera tri-pod is the way to use the mic. You laying on the floor won't do it. The mic should be setup at ~ ear level. You will be in the way of the mic. if you are on the floor.
post #4788 of 5049
I have purchased a 876 and are looking for the firmware and dsp udate files as the unit that i have is on 1.01 main.
Can anyone post a working link for where I can download them? as all links that I can find are down.

Many thanks
post #4789 of 5049
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Originally Posted by golffnutt View Post

Hi ChrisWATV,

Was just curious about your quote above, " I have never used the bitstream". I am trying to learn something here. Is this because you feel you get a better audio when the BR players do the decoding? I have just always used bitstream because that is what the masses use. By the way I have an Oppo BDP-83 player and Onkyo 876 AVR. Should I be decoding with my 83 instead of my 876? Thanks for the education.

I don't think the audio will be any different with player versus receiver decoding, and with in-player decoding you can also hear audio commentary or other added audio if desired. The "DTS bomb" issues also make me happy to avoid in-receiver audio decoding (bitstream use).
post #4790 of 5049
Thanks, kingfats, that's the first confirmation I've seen of somebody getting this working. I must be doing something wrong.

AFAIK, once I've set HDMI Main for output, I should just have to go to the "Component Video Input" screen and associate "Game/TV" with IN1. Assuming I've got the 360 plugged into input #1, and the receiver switched to Game/TV, it should work, right? Was there anything else you had to do?

post #4791 of 5049
Does anyone use this feature on the 876? As it does not work with an AppleTV as the source, I am trying to decide if it is worth moving an Airport Express to my home theater setup. My quick tests showed no discernible difference.

For those that do use it, when do you think the benefits are most noticeable?
post #4792 of 5049
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Originally Posted by bmoorhouse View Post

Does anyone use this feature on the 876? As it does not work with an AppleTV as the source, I am trying to decide if it is worth moving an Airport Express to my home theater setup. My quick tests showed no discernible difference.

For those that do use it, when do you think the benefits are most noticeable?

From Onkyo Asia-


Music Optimizer to Support Compressed Digital Music Files
While MP3 or AAC files may sound fine on a portable digital player, the limitations of these compressed files can be exposed when played back through a home entertainment system. Onkyo has designed onboard Music Optimizer technology to improve the quality of compressed audio signals. Compressed music loses a substantial amount of bit information at higher frequencies, so the Music Optimizer technology works to overcome this limitation and enhance audio quality.

Sounds like it might be more than a simple bass cut - treble boost deal. Other than having noticed the crappy unbalanced and mid bass heavy FR of low bit rate MP3 files I can't help you. I don't listen to them. In fact, I don't know why anyone listens to them. No amount of FR shaping will make them sound acceptable (to me). Playing them on a nice receiver and speakers just emphasizes the FR imbalance.
post #4793 of 5049
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Originally Posted by trekguy View Post

From Onkyo Asia-


Music Optimizer to Support Compressed Digital Music Files
While MP3 or AAC files may sound fine on a portable digital player, the limitations of these compressed files can be exposed when played back through a home entertainment system. Onkyo has designed onboard Music Optimizer technology to improve the quality of compressed audio signals. Compressed music loses a substantial amount of bit information at higher frequencies, so the Music Optimizer technology works to overcome this limitation and enhance audio quality.

Sounds like it might be more than a simple bass cut - treble boost deal. Other than having noticed the crappy unbalanced and mid bass heavy FR of low bit rate MP3 files I can't help you. I don't listen to them. In fact, I don't know why anyone listens to them. No amount of FR shaping will make them sound acceptable (to me). Playing them on a nice receiver and speakers just emphasizes the FR imbalance.

Thank you for the reply. I had read the same description of the system in my manual, but when I switched it on and off while using Airplay, I could not hear any real difference. The vast majority of my iTunes library is ripped at 192 or higher though with very few lower bit rate files. Maybe the improvement is only noticeable with files ripped at 128?

Though no audiophile, I normally have a good ear for subtle improvements. Maybe my ear just isn't good enough to hear the benefit this feature provides.

Has anyone using the feature heard improvement? If so, on what types of files?
post #4794 of 5049
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by bmoorhouse View Post

Does anyone use this feature on the 876? As it does not work with an AppleTV as the source, I am trying to decide if it is worth moving an Airport Express to my home theater setup. My quick tests showed no discernible difference.

For those that do use it, when do you think the benefits are most noticeable?

I never heard any difference but I never did any serious A/B tests.
It is not active for digital sources if I recall correctly.
This is what Onkyo said and yes, it seems to be about treble.
LL
post #4795 of 5049
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Originally Posted by rickardl View Post

I never heard any difference but I never did any serious A/B tests.
It is not active for digital sources if I recall correctly.
This is what Onkyo said and yes, it seems to be about treble.

Thank you. Your attachment helps a lot. At least looking at that, I can see what I am supposed to hear.

It does work with digital sources, except that the source cannot be at 48, which is why the AppleTV does not work with it. In fact, I have connected my Airport Express using toslink.
post #4796 of 5049
Against...or maybe...some indifferent judgement

I bought a clearance 876 the other day for $600( delivered)

I have had a couple of 875s in the past and they both had failed HDMI boards
I didn't have to pay for them..it was warranty

As much of a PITA it was to ship the items for repair etc...and Onkyo customer service etc...I really thought the 875's were stellar

So anyway the 876 will come with the full manufacturer warranty

I thinking about actually selling a newer unit I have

oh well..I have really looked at this thread in a while

curiously...has anyone had a replaced HDMI board go out again?


Warren
post #4797 of 5049
Warren-

I highly recommend that you get some type of cooling fan device and put it on the top right-rear area of your '876 as soon as you get it. That should minimize the chance of HDMI failure from the start.

I have not had to repair mine, so I cannot comment on the need for further repairs later.
post #4798 of 5049
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Originally Posted by turnne1 View Post

Against...or maybe...some indifferent judgement

I bought a clearance 876 the other day for $600( delivered)

I have had a couple of 875s in the past and they both had failed HDMI boards
I didn't have to pay for them..it was warranty

As much of a PITA it was to ship the items for repair etc...and Onkyo customer service etc...I really thought the 875's were stellar

So anyway the 876 will come with the full manufacturer warranty

I thinking about actually selling a newer unit I have

oh well..I have really looked at this thread in a while

curiously...has anyone had a replaced HDMI board go out again?


Warren

I had my 906 repaired six months ago and the HDMI board is starting to act up again.... And I do have a fan over the hot spot in the rear of the avr.... but this was a repaired board, not a new one... It was working fine when i got the unit back....
post #4799 of 5049
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Originally Posted by ChrisW6ATV View Post

Warren-

I highly recommend that you get some type of cooling fan device and put it on the top right-rear area of your '876 as soon as you get it. That should minimize the chance of HDMI failure from the start.

I have not had to repair mine, so I cannot comment on the need for further repairs later.

Thanks...I would imagine it runs about the same temp the 875 did
not that I will have to worry though...

when it arrived there was damage to the front...the power button and several of the front panel buttons were pushed in

Oh well...I called the merchant and they are issuing an RMA


Warren
post #4800 of 5049
I've just lost my HDMI like many, many others. It's 6 months out of warranty and I was unable to get any joy from Onkyo tech support. The 2nd level supervisor refused to return my calls. I was wondering if someone could tell me what an authorized dealer charges to fix the problem? Do they replace the board or replace the capacitors? Do the new boards have the same defective capacitors or has the design been updated. I'm trying to figure out if I want to mess with replacing the capacitors myself or have a tech do it.
I read through a lot of posts tonight but could not see the answers to these questions. If they have already been answered I apologize.
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