Originally Posted by UxiSXRD
Anyone else getting dejavu from the reaction to Bram Stoker's Dracula?
Dracula is an awful transfer, period. Harris can defend it all he likes, that doesn't keep the old DVD from having better contrast and more accurate colors compared to EVERY shred of evidence as to what the film was "supposed" to look like (documentaries, on set photos, existing digital transfers of high quality 35mm prints, etc). Anyone defending it is doing it based on the word of the crew behind the work and isn't using the eyes their mothers' gave them.
The Godfather Part II is no such transfer.
Originally Posted by history2b
Color space varies between all formats from HD video, to 4k data files to 35mm prints. There isn't going to be an "exact" match.
So why do you assume that the 35mm print is a more accurate representation of the restored 4k master than the Blu-ray? If anything analog film printing processes have more variables that could change the image, even a simple change in film stock, so what guarantee do you have that one transfer is a more true example of the source?
My opinion on this direction they took certain scenes was a direct comparison to the restored film print I just screened this past weekend.
So clearly the 4k master is up to snuff, if you have no complaints over the 35mm print.
I'm not even going to bother asking if you know the color space differences of blu-ray discs and 4k files. 10 bit log 4:4:4 video versus 4:2:0, etc.
Are you saying that the conversion from 4k 10-bit 4:4:4 to 1080p 8-bit 4:2:0 manipulated them in some way? If you can't handle 4:2:0 video, I'd suggest never watching video at home, and possibly staying out of AVS all together. That's typically all we, as consumers, have access to.
I just think some scenes were a little heavy handed with the digital manipulation of color.
Are you saying the Blu-ray release had its' colors manipulated after
the 35mm prints were made from the exact same 4k master? That makes no sense. All the color tweaks were done during the restoration itself. Whatever digital changes were made on the 4k master would be present on the Blu-ray AND the 35mm print, period.
You're a professional, so tell me, how often does a director approved 4k master get tweaked last second before being fed into a Blu-ray/DVD encoder? I'm willing to bet "practically never", and that The Godfather Trilogy wasn't an exception.