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post #31 of 3631
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Originally Posted by bplewis24 View Post

lol, yeah it's not going too well so far.

Anyhow, XBR6 owners, can you comment on how the PiP works? Is it only available for PC input like last year's models? Is P&P the only way to watch HDMI & component inputs at the same time?

Brandon

Can't comment on PC input. I don't hook up my pc to my tv. I do know that the PIP is available if you watch tv through the tv's tuner. I however hook up my DirecTV via HDMI so PIP isn't available that way.
post #32 of 3631
Can you comment on the addition of the sub woofer in the cabinet? Any noticeable/audible vibrating of the plastic casing?

Also, are you able to tell if there're fans used for cooling.

Thanks,
schlick
post #33 of 3631
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Can you comment on the addition of the sub woofer in the cabinet? Any noticeable/audible vibrating of the plastic casing?

Thanks for a normal question. Let's get back on topic. The audition of the woofer brings and improvement in the sound department. You can set the woofer how you like in terms of sound louder or lower. It does help.

As for vibrating, none at all. Have not noticed or heard any fans at all.
post #34 of 3631
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Originally Posted by schlick View Post

Can you comment on the addition of the sub woofer in the cabinet? Any noticeable/audible vibrating of the plastic casing?

Also, are you able to tell if there're fans used for cooling.

Thanks,
schlick

circuit city lists xbr6 as having a fanless design, if that's worth anything to you.
post #35 of 3631
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Originally Posted by BESLC View Post

My 52" XBR6 arrives tomorrow, I just received a Blue Ray player, is there a recommended Blue Ray movie which would be a good test for Blue Ray playback?

Speed racer all the way, it is so sharp and bright.

Dont think transformers looks that good on blu ray, IMO looks alot better on HDDVD.
post #36 of 3631
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Originally Posted by slumpey326 View Post

Speed racer all the way, it is so sharp and bright.

Dont think transformers looks that good on blu ray, IMO looks alot better on HDDVD.

I don't agree with that. I had the HDDVD version as well and the blu ray is the same. Iron Man on blu ray is also very good. Check it out! I have had a copy for about a week now. Very nice.
post #37 of 3631
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Originally Posted by mfarris214 View Post

I don't agree with that. I had the HDDVD version as well and the blu ray is the same. Iron Man on blu ray is also very good. Check it out! I have had a copy for about a week now. Very nice.

Where did you hook a copy of Ironman a week before retail release????
post #38 of 3631
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Where did you hook a copy of Ironman a week before retail release????


I went to Fry's on Tuesday by where I work and they constantly put movies out early by mistake. I was not going to tell them otherwise. Most retail stores get movies more then a week early as it is they just don't put them out.
post #39 of 3631
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Originally Posted by mfarris214 View Post

I went to Fry's on Tuesday by where I work and they constantly put movies out early by mistake. I was not going to tell them otherwise. Most retail stores get movies more then a week early as it is they just don't put them out.

Nicely done. Wish my local shops made those kind of mistakes.
post #40 of 3631
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Originally Posted by mfarris214 View Post

I went to Fry's on Tuesday by where I work and they constantly put movies out early by mistake. I was not going to tell them otherwise. Most retail stores get movies more then a week early as it is they just don't put them out.

That is nice, excellent movie too. I am sure that looks awsome on Blu Ray.

mfarris214, what units where you on the fence with and what made you pick the Sony?
post #41 of 3631
Can someone comment on the Digital Media Extender feature? Sounds like a sexy feature.
post #42 of 3631
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

That is nice, excellent movie too. I am sure that looks awsome on Blu Ray.

mfarris214, what units where you on the fence with and what made you pick the Sony?


You mean what other tv I was looking at? I like Sony and honestly only buy Sony. I tried avery model of the new 46 inch 4100 series. To me in my time with each set I felt the W model was the best of the bunch. It had more accurate skin tones and better black levels then the Z4100. I am in no way saying that the XBR6 is the best tv out there because it probubly isn't I just prefer to stick with Sony and to me this tv is best for what I like which is the most important. The 4100 series will do fine for others, it all depends on what you are looking for and your budget. I did compare other models in store to be fair however.

I really like my XBR6 and will give it some time and watch some movies and some ps3 as well as sunday football. More thoughts during the weekend.
post #43 of 3631
MFarris -- what made you pick the XBR6 over the W? I am looking at the 52 inch W and XBR6. When I was looking at them the other day in the sony store, I really couldn't see a real difference in the picture quality. Maybe it was the feed that they had them on at the time, don't know. I plan to go back again when I have more time. Can you see a real difference in the PQ between the 2? What are the other reasons that justify the difference in price between the W and the XBR6?
post #44 of 3631
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Originally Posted by Raybanner View Post

MFarris -- what made you pick the XBR6 over the W? I am looking at the 52 inch W and XBR6. When I was looking at them the other day in the sony store, I really couldn't see a real difference in the picture quality. Maybe it was the feed that they had them on at the time, don't know. I plan to go back again when I have more time. Can you see a real difference in the PQ between the 2? What are the other reasons that justify the difference in price between the W and the XBR6?

Well you would have to decide if the differance in features justifies the price differance. I have had each tv in home so I do see a differance for sure. The XBR is more sharp and colors are more vibrant on the XBR. I would ask you how much you are comfortable spending and what are you most looking for in a tv. Does it have to be Sony? There may be better TV's in your price range. When I went to the Sonystyle store they had the W and the XBR next to each other with the same feed and signal and there was a differance I saw. Take your time in deciding to make sure you make the right choice for you. If you have any questions that I can answer just ask and I will give my honest answer.
post #45 of 3631
I am just looking for a good long-term HDTV. I can afford either, so that is not the issue. I just couldn't see a difference between the two, but it could have been the feed. I was there close to closing time, so I didn't have much time to compare. I will be going back again (maybe this weekend).

I will be putting this TV in a very bright room with lots of floor to ceiling windows, so I am focused on Sony because of the matte screens (i.e. less glare).
post #46 of 3631
any autodimming tests done yet? really no flashlights in dark room?
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any autodimming tests done yet? really no flashlights in dark room?

No Autodimming or flashlights detected yet. However as stated I have only put around 2 hours of viewing time so far
post #48 of 3631
Has anyone had the chance to compare the two?

I understand that some of the differences between the Sony 52xbr6 and the Samsung 52A860 are

1) Screen: The Sony screen is more matte and the Samsung screen is more clear.

2) Dimension and Weight: The Sony is thicker than the ultra-slim Samsung. The Sony is also heavier.

3) Audio: The Sony has front firing speakers and the Samsung has downfiring speakers. The Sony has a woofer and the Samsung does not. The Sony speakers stand out from the rest of the frame, whereas the Samsung speakers seem almost hidden when watching from a distance.

4) MSRP Price: The Sony costs more.

Are there other important differences that come to mind?

Is the 52" Sony better integrated with the Sony PS3, than the 52" Samsung?

I know the Samsung 52A860 swivels on its stand. Can the Sony 52XBR6 swivel on its stand?

Thank you.
post #49 of 3631
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Originally Posted by Will View Post

Has anyone had the chance to compare the two?

I understand that some of the differences between the Sony 52xbr6 and the Samsung 52A860 are

1) Screen: The Sony screen is more matte and the Samsung screen is more clear.

2) Dimension and Weight: The Sony is thicker than the ultra-slim Samsung. The Sony is also heavier.

3) Audio: The Sony has front firing speakers and the Samsung has downfiring speakers. The Sony has a woofer and the Samsung does not. The Sony speakers stand out from the rest of the frame, whereas the Samsung speakers seem almost hidden when watching from a distance.

4) MSRP Price: The Sony costs more.

Are there other important differences that come to mind?

Is the 52" Sony better integrated with the Sony PS3, than the 52" Samsung?

I know the Samsung 52A860 swivels on its stand. Can the Sony 52XBR6 swivel on its stand?

Thank you.

A860 has two USB ports and can play videos (plug pictures and music) while I believe Sony can only display pictures & music.

p.s. And a longer warranty, 18 months.
post #50 of 3631
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Originally Posted by Will View Post

Has anyone had the chance to compare the two?

I understand that some of the differences between the Sony 52xbr6 and the Samsung 52A860 are

1) Screen: The Sony screen is more matte and the Samsung screen is more clear.

2) Dimension and Weight: The Sony is thicker than the ultra-slim Samsung. The Sony is also heavier.

3) Audio: The Sony has front firing speakers and the Samsung has downfiring speakers. The Sony has a woofer and the Samsung does not. The Sony speakers stand out from the rest of the frame, whereas the Samsung speakers seem almost hidden when watching from a distance.

4) MSRP Price: The Sony costs more.

Are there other important differences that come to mind?

Is the 52" Sony better integrated with the Sony PS3, than the 52" Samsung?

I know the Samsung 52A860 swivels on its stand. Can the Sony 52XBR6 swivel on its stand?

Thank you.

I will let you know tomorrow morning how they compare real world. I am returning my LN 52A850 and having the 52XBR6 delivered tomorrow morning. Yhe 850 and 860 are the same set in every aspect except for color on the TOC, and an extra USB port on the 860.
post #51 of 3631
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There is a new software update for all bravia engine 2 tvs. you might want to install that. I did and there was a differance
post #52 of 3631
i want to post my review here of what i was saying in another tread:



Ok i just saw a 40'' xbr6 in sonystyle in Canada. they received it yesterday.

It has all the sticker on the the tv : BE2, 10bit, 120hz, x.v color...
it seems to be a little different from look from the us version. It can be me but i dont remember seeing the sticker on the tv with the US xbr6 pics. and the bezel too seem different, than US version, cant say im 100% sure anyway, it look a little different, the gray bar at the bottom seem different a little

Anyway this is what i think.

I had this lcd tv side by side with a Xbr4 40'' and a v4100 40'' and a w3000 40''. ( alittle far from there was w4100 and a z4100 all 40'')

they played a blu-ray film. ( a new james bond movie i think... i forgot the name of the movies). ALL LCD TV WAS SET EXACTLY the same. i look the setting. motionflow standard with auto1, they were all in component cables. i take more than 1 hour to compare them. anyway the comparison didnt not take long. THE XBR6 TOTALLY SURPASS the xbr4 and w3000 and v4100 in blu-ray movie. Wow really better. i really think the xbr6 has even better color and sharpness than the Z. ( the z was far from xbr6, but i compare them anyway.

1. Xbr6 Blacks are really better than XBR4. in a scene i saw a japanese girl and her hair was so black with xbr6 compare to xbr4. impressive. i dont think i need a xbr8 with blacks like that.
2. Xbr6 colors REALLY REALLY Better than xbr4 even the Z. the v4100 look really bad compare to it in term of color. The w4100 that was a little far from there, has really bad colors compare to xbr6. im pretty perfectionnist, but you can see that in several scene, not all, but in several scenes. i dont want to say that w4100 has bad colors, but you cant compare it with the xbr6. really cant. the xbr6 seem to have more realistic colors than the xbr4 for sure. And more pop , it great to see the xbr6 have great pop with no loss in quality of colors. the colors are so nice in xbr6 it now impossible to buy a xbr4 for me. im sure the contrast ratio 50000:1 in xbr6 must have some reason for these results.

3. Sincerely, im asking me if the xbr6 from canada is the same from US..
The Angle, was better than the Z and better than the w4100.
The xbr4 has only a slight advantage over the Xbr6. xbr4 look nearly perfect at nearly every angle, but xbr6 look very good from the side, not perfect, but really better than w4100 and others. it has surprising me. little little washout

4. The sharpness... The xbr6 blow away the xbr4 in 1080p blu-ray movie in component. and i saw so many xbr4 in 1080p and i can TELL YOU FOR SURE THE XBR6 has better sharpness than xbr4 at 1080p. I could not imagine the sharpness even better than a xbr4... but it exist. even if i didnt have a xbr4 side to it, i will have say the same thing. i saw so many xbr4 in blu-ray. the better test when was i saw face in people in big i can say for sure the xbr6 has more details in the face than xbr4. its not very hard to see the difference. even someone that remember well the xbr4 will say the same thing even seeing only the xbr6

5. Definately the motion is really ( better handling) with xbr6 than xbr4, or w3000, and v4100. ( but w3000 and v4100 dont do 120 hz)
no smearing in xbr6 for sure. its the first time i see a sony set with so little blurring in 120 hz mode in standard. but the w4100 do a great job too to handling motion in 120hz standard. i suppose BE2 is the reason. xbr4 definately cant handling motion like xbr6 can do. for me the difference is major, because i have a lot of trouble with motion blur, cant live with that. but i cant buy a xbr8 anyway even in led-backlight do a 1000 resolution motion with 120hz. for the truth you will see a good difference in motion with xbr6 vs xbr4.

6. in overall when you look at it you want the xbr6 for sure, its every way better than xbr4. ( when comparing them at nearly same setting)
i think the only xbr4 advantage for me, is its pro engine for other resolution, i say that because i read that, but i dindt compare xbr6 in others resolution with the xbr4. i better have a a set like xbr6 with perfect sharpness in 1080p, than a xbr4 with DEFINATELY less sharpness in 1080p, even if its perform a little better in others resolution. and if i have the chance to see the xbr6 in others resolution vs a xbr4 and found the xbr6 similar in PQ and sharpness, for me the xbr6 will be a complete better tv than xbr4. not enough difference in angle to give much credit to xbr4.

the xbr6 is really impressive. The samsung A650 is far from the PQ overall of the Xbr6, believe me.



THE XBR6 sharpness and details is really better than xbr4 in 1080p , its a fact. i took a lot of time to examine each details with both tv
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Originally Posted by renejr902 View Post

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the xbr6 is really impressive. The samsung A650 is far from the PQ overall of the Xbr6, believe me.
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THE XBR6 sharpness and details is really better than xbr4 in 1080p , its a fact. i took a lot of time to examine each details with both tv

How about XBR6 viewing angle? You give it same high pitch as for the other parameters? Somebody criticized viewing angle.
post #55 of 3631
I am anxiously awaiting my 52" XBR6. I got a great deal on it and I did get a chance to look it over at CC the other day. Looks great. For the price I am getting, there is no better TV.
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i found the xbr6 off-angle better than w4100 for sure. But the xbr4 has better off angle. But not by much.

The xbr4 is nearly perfect in every angle, but the xbr6 has a slight washout in off angle

For me it cant be a deal breaker. the washout is not enough strong.

i wait the a950 form samsung. i will buy the a950 or xbr6 (52'')
post #57 of 3631
I read that Samsung's a950 suffers from an off-angle washout. The washout on that Samsung is supposedly more severe than on Samsung's 52" A860, A850, A750 or A650. However the A950 is 55", and it has an LED backlight. The backlight supposedly improves its on-angle PQ but the backlight affects the off-angle viewing.
post #58 of 3631
DRC mode in the xbr4 makes it so clear.....the xbr6 doesnt have this mode right?
post #59 of 3631
My local CC just received their first 52XBR6's and they kindly set one up for me to look at. I left disappointed.

I was comparing it to a Samsung 52A850, with both sets in Standard mode. The Sony was definitely set to factory defaults, but I can't confirm that about the Samsung. Both sets had component feeds of CC's standard 720p loop.

The good news is there were no sparkles (I did see a few on a W next to the XBR6). Also, the cabinet was very handsome.

But other than that, nothing made the set stand out. Text was crisper on the A850, and bright white text on the Sony would pulse in an annoying manner. Thin white lines would pulsate, but were rock solid on other sets. The set washed out when viewed off-angle, especially when you looked down on it, which ruined the black levels. But even when viewed straight on the A850 had better blacks.

I found the menu structure annoying. It looks like a toy version of the PS3 menu system. I preferred Samsung's menus.

I'm a Sony fan and this was not what I was expecting. This set is severely overpriced, based on what I saw. I'm concerned about the reflectiveness of the Samsung screens and was hoping this matte screen Sony would have a superior picture, but it did not.

When I switched the XBR6 back to the default Vivid mode it looked a bit better. There seemed to be more sharpening going on, and the set was extremely bright, possibly the brightest in the store. The brightest whites even looked a little blown out.
post #60 of 3631
dem, like you hinted at, each set should be independently adjusted to their best for comparison. Each company's "standard" setting is usually different. But in case you didn't know, samsung makes a few non-glossy versions this year, e.g. the 630, which seems like a good set.
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