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post #31 of 495
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Not much to update other than the kegerator arrived and trying to set it up. I didn't think I would have such a hard time filling the 5 lb Co2. Nobody around here will just fill it up and I went to 2 different places that do the exchange thing but all they have is the nasty steel ones when I have the brand new aluminum one. Does anyone have any insight on this?

Same thing happen to me when I got mine. Just switch it out, it wont make any difference what it looks like and you will barely see the tank anyway. You may end up getting it back at some point too..

Get that thing up and running!
post #32 of 495
Around here, the folks that service FIRE extinguishers fill CO2 tanks. Look in the yellow pages.
post #33 of 495
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Around here, the folks that service FIRE extinguishers fill CO2 tanks. Look in the yellow pages.

Thanks, Randy...I'll try that.
post #34 of 495
Awesome bar...I might be stealing your copper top idea...hope you dont mind. I do have a question for you. Where you joined the bar rail at the corners, did you use some king of putty? Im am not sure how to connect both pieces.
post #35 of 495
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Awesome bar...I might be stealing your copper top idea...hope you dont mind. I do have a question for you. Where you joined the bar rail at the corners, did you use some king of putty? Im am not sure how to connect both pieces.

bets5150: steal away, I don't mind at all. If you need anything just let me know.
I did not use putty I just used wood filler. I glob it on and let it dry for minimum 2 hrs. I then just sanded the bar rail with 100, 150, 220, 320 and 420 and patched any spots if necessary between coats. The wood filler I use is:
post #36 of 495
Another source to look into when filling your CO2 tank is a paintball store. That's where I go to get mine filled. It's an interesting enough place to waste a few minutes while they do it and they know what the 5lb tank is for, so you are cool, even if you don't play paintball.
post #37 of 495
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Another source to look into when filling your CO2 tank is a paintball store. That's where I go to get mine filled. It's an interesting enough place to waste a few minutes while they do it and they know what the 5lb tank is for, so you are cool, even if you don't play paintball.

Hawkseventytwo - thanks for the insight, I'll check on them also. I finally found a place that will refill it for $10.50 but it's 50 miles away I'll check on some paintball places this afternoon otherwise i'll be driving the 50 miles tomorrow morning...sucks I know. Hopefully the 5lb tank will last me long enough to cover the gas cost....of course I have a E85 Impala so gas at $2.49 gallon isn't all bad......
post #38 of 495
That price is about what I pay. Also pick up some teflon tape and wrap the threads on your tank EACH time you connect or disconnect it from the line. You should also use the washer that comes with the tank. If you didn't get one, ask for one where you are having your tank refilled, they should give you one for free. Otherwise you will be making several 50 mile trips to refill your tank. A full tank, properly sealed should last several kegs. Just make sure you check for CO2 leaks. I have my regulator set between 10-12 psi.
post #39 of 495
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That price is about what I pay. Also pick up some teflon tape and wrap the threads on your tank EACH time you connect or disconnect it from the line. You should also use the washer that comes with the tank. If you didn't get one, ask for one where you are having your tank refilled, they should give you one for free. Otherwise you will be making several 50 mile trips to refill your tank. A full tank, properly sealed should last several kegs. Just make sure you check for CO2 leaks. I have my regulator set between 10-12 psi.

Randy - Is the washer just a white plastic circle, I looked everywhere when I unpacked everything but never could find it. When I initially went to the place that did C02 exchanges I saw they had some but it was just a white plastic circle washer (like a washer for a water hose but a hard plastic) I wasn't sure if this was right, it didn't look like the washer that was shown on the manual so I didn't get them.
post #40 of 495
They are very hard washers. It is a plactic type of washer. Mine are dark, I suppose the white one you describe it the one!
post #41 of 495
Don't you guys have liquor stores that provide c02? Wow that would be a pain to travel 50 miles
post #42 of 495
As an old Ohio boy, there's a Michigan joke in there somewhere.
post #43 of 495
I guess I needed to edit that post.
post #44 of 495
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I would rather travel 50 miles to see a BIG HOUSE rather than to see a horseshoe. ...of course we suck this year bad but we are not bandwaggon fans and are alums.
post #45 of 495
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Finally .... got the Kegerator up and running yesterday. I took Randys Advice and found a Fire extinguisher company that filled the C02 for $10.50. I didn't need to worry about the plastic washer that goes between the tank & the regulator because the regulator I purchased has an o-ring seal and does not require a washer (would have helped to read the instructions first) oh well. I got a 1/4 keg of Bud Light (I know what your thinking but on no notice I could not get anything else from the party store. I had to have something for the guy's for the Michigan vs Michigan State game yesterday. I let the C02 & the Keg sit for a little over 2 1/2 hrs before doing anything to it. The first pour was not bad.. a little foam issue until I got the pressure corrected. I am at 12 lbs of pressure now. I just need to now cool the tower with a home made fan set up that I'll be working on. The keg temp. was at 37 degrees but 41 coming out of the tower so the plan is to get it at 38 degrees coming out of the tower with little foam... still some things to work out but hey the guys didn't care, football on a big screen, a in-state rival game and your own Keg of beer at your disposal - priceless...doesn't get much better than that.





post #46 of 495
A baby Keg! Just an FYI....I also have a rubber O ring built in my regulator ....But it won't seal if for long. Use the washer! The compression will take it's toll. Get a soap mixture and test the connection at the tank.

Nice pics! Looks like you guys were having a good time
post #47 of 495
Baby Kegs are so cute. So what do you and your buddys drink during the 2nd half of a game
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Baby Kegs are so cute. So what do you and your buddys drink during the 2nd half of a game

I don't care who you are, that right there is funny
post #49 of 495
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I don't care who you are, that right there is funny

Haha (that is funny though)... Did either of you two get a full keg for your first one? The thought of wasting a full keg because of something going wrong... now that would not be funny.... and in these times of penny pinching unfortunatley I couldn't afford to lose that much beer... Of course the real reason is .... I have 2 towers and the fridge won't fit 2 full kegs but it will hold 2 1/4 kegs
post #50 of 495
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Baby Kegs are so cute. So what do you and your buddys drink during the 2nd half of a game


we drink their beer... I only supply the first half.
post #51 of 495
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Randy or Dinger,
Did either of you do anything to cool your kegerator tower? I have the liquid temp inside at a nice 38 degree's but it is 42 - 44 coming out of the tower. I built a box with an extra computer fan that I had laying around and wondered if either of you had to do anything like this? I have some questions on the tubing you may have used.
post #52 of 495
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I finally got the beer tower fan contraption done and it is working better than I had expected. I basically used a computer fan mounted to a radio shack project box, I wired it with an old cell phone charger and PVC for the tubing. It has 2 - 90 degree bends. Just before I installed it I took the temp inside the kegerator with the cup of water method. It was 38 degrees. I then poured a glass of beer and took the temp which averaged 43 degrees. (did this 4 times). I then installed the wiring thru the drain hole on the bottom and hooked everything up. I let the system run for 24 hours and then re-took the temps. I was suprised to find that the avg. temp dropped to 39.2 degree's coming out of the tower. The excessive foam has stopped and the beer tasted much better (obviously) I now will try and get the inside of the Keg down to 37 degrees so that the temp coming out of the tower is 38 degrees. Thanks to Dinger for leading me to a a forum for such things as this. (micromatic.com/Forum/us-en/).
I'll toast one to you this weekend my friend. I'll also try and post some pics this weekend of the fan set up.
Now I need to get back on track with the bar and envirotex issues.
post #53 of 495
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Randy or Dinger,
Did either of you do anything to cool your kegerator tower? I have the liquid temp inside at a nice 38 degree's but it is 42 - 44 coming out of the tower. I built a box with an extra computer fan that I had laying around and wondered if either of you had to do anything like this? I have some questions on the tubing you may have used.

I am not cooling my tower. I figured the juice wasn't worth the squeeze.
BTW it didn't happen without pics!
post #54 of 495
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Originally Posted by LSWHO View Post

I finally got the beer tower fan contraption done and it is working better than I had expected. I basically used a computer fan mounted to a radio shack project box, I wired it with an old cell phone charger and PVC for the tubing. It has 2 - 90 degree bends. Just before I installed it I took the temp inside the kegerator with the cup of water method. It was 38 degrees. I then poured a glass of beer and took the temp which averaged 43 degrees. (did this 4 times). I then installed the wiring thru the drain hole on the bottom and hooked everything up. I let the system run for 24 hours and then re-took the temps. I was suprised to find that the avg. temp dropped to 39.2 degree's coming out of the tower. The excessive foam has stopped and the beer tasted much better (obviously) I now will try and get the inside of the Keg down to 37 degrees so that the temp coming out of the tower is 38 degrees. Thanks to Dinger for leading me to a a forum for such things as this. (micromatic.com/Forum/us-en/).
I'll toast one to you this weekend my friend. I'll also try and post some pics this weekend of the fan set up.
Now I need to get back on track with the bar and envirotex issues.

What is the length of your tubing? Did you use the entire length that they gave you? When I installed mine, I only used the amount that was necessary with a little slack. I had enough left over to replace it after a couple of years. I think the shortest run of tubing helps with the foam also, I might be wrong.

Your other question in an earlier post about did we get a full keg the first time.....I did. I used to have my keg in a converted Fridge in my old house in the basement so I had built up some confidence.

I remember one time after I got the 1/2 keg DOWN the basement steps and tried to tap it, the connection to the keg would not seal and I could not figure out what was going on. I call the distributer and they told me to bring it back and they would check it out. Now, taking a full keg DOWN the steps is one thing, carrying that bad boy UP the steps, by myself, was more of a challenge. All they did was tap the metal ring seal down and I got to carry it back DOWN the steps again...


Now in the new house, I drive around back and drop it off at the basement door.
post #55 of 495
Our first was a baby keg (7.75gal) as well...

But the second is a full 1/2 barrel

Does the friction through the tubes actually warm the beer? I can't imagine why having more tube would lead to warmer beer.

I was thinking about pressing the tube against/around the cooling plate in the back of the fridge (I have the same one as above, but in stainless steel).
post #56 of 495
I too do not cool my tower. I put some insulation around the tube and more in the tower and the 1st beer of the day (what ever is in the tower) is foam but after that I am good to go. Make sure you clean your beer lines often. I do it after every keg.

Ugh... carrrying the keg down stairs is a pain. I really hope I never have to carry one up stairs
post #57 of 495
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Originally Posted by HeyNow^ View Post

I am not cooling my tower. I figured the juice wasn't worth the squeeze.
BTW it didn't happen without pics!

I had my doubts too but I had massive foam which didn't matter when we had people over and it was constantly being poured. But when I came home from work to have a glass I hated wasting a full glass to get past the foam. What I don't like is the 24/7 running of the fan so I am trying to figure a way to wire it to go on with the kegerator. We'll see...

LOL - I'll post the pics this weekend so that it happened.
post #58 of 495
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I am with you Randy...lucky to have a walkout basement. I mean with that baby keg I just slung the thing over my shoulder and carried it 1 mile uphill both ways bare foot in a snow storm

I am using the 5' length that came with the kegerator. I did read on that site to add length to the tubing to reduce your pour speed and to allow lower C02 pressure if you were at 18-20 psi depending on your location. I am in Michigan and the site recommends 12 psi with Bud Light and it seems to be fine.
post #59 of 495
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Our first was a baby keg (7.75gal) as well...

But the second is a full 1/2 barrel

Does the friction through the tubes actually warm the beer? I can't imagine why having more tube would lead to warmer beer.

I was thinking about pressing the tube against/around the cooling plate in the back of the fridge (I have the same one as above, but in stainless steel).

Jamis - thanks for stopping in. I will be getting the 1/2 barrell of Blue Moon on Tuesday
I don't believe the friction through the tubes actually warms the beer, I thought about running the tubes through copper pipe along the cooling plate and up the Tower to have them also stay cold but for the price of copper it wasn't worth it plus with the copper bar top and all I thought people would think I was crazy for copper or something.
I built the fan contraption for less than $20 bucks and that should be good enough for now. Did you do any mods to yours? I went thru your thread, nice job. I like the colors and the carpet. Where did you get your beer tap at? Is it Killians?
post #60 of 495
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Jamis - thanks for stopping in. I will be getting the 1/2 barrell of Blue Moon on Tuesday
I don't believe the friction through the tubes actually warms the beer, I thought about running the tubes through copper pipe along the cooling plate and up the Tower to have them also stay cold but for the price of copper it wasn't worth it plus with the copper bar top and all I thought people would think I was crazy for copper or something.
I built the fan contraption for less than $20 bucks and that should be good enough for now. Did you do any mods to yours? I went thru your thread, nice job. I like the colors and the carpet. Where did you get your beer tap at? Is it Killians?

I got that tap handle (Killians) off eBay. My previous one (Wachusett Country Ale) direct from the brewery (a local micro). I paid $12 shipped for the Killians one.

No mods on mine (yet). It's been performing pretty well so far without. I run mine at 10-12 psi (500ft above sea level) and the first pour is foamy, but salvageable. I usually pour a half glass first, pour a second glass (for the wife), and then pour the rest of the first glass. Or drink some of the foam...
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