Originally Posted by CaspianM
I have already posted some pro measurements on the HG21 and Sony sr11/12.
SR12 actually has more resolution than HG20/21 but HG21's on-booard processing gives a sharper look vs Sony's smoother.
Color accuracy of Sony is better than HG21 according to measurements. Sony also produces less noisier picture almost twice cleaner. Canon repertedly has better focusing.
You're obviously a Sony fan and that's fine, but your post is totally, 100% inaccurate. Where to begin? First, the posted numbers on review sites show that without a shadow of a doubt the HG20/HG21/HF11/HF10 have more resolution (675 lines) than the Sony. From CamcorderInfo Review: "The Canon HG20 produced a horizontal resolution of 675 lw/ph and a vertical resolution of 650 lw/ph.". Now for the Sony SR12, also from CamcorderInfo Review: "The Sony HDR-SR12 produced a horizontal resolution of 625 line widths. The vertical resolution measured 600 line widths." They went on to say further: "Comparatively, the Sony HDR-SR12 produced a similar color performance, but the sharpness of the fine details was not as good as the Canon HF11. The SR12 just looked fuzzier." They went on further: "We shot a DSC Labs Chroma DuMonde chart at an even 3000 lux. Under this light, Canon once again proves that it can dominate the performance category. The picture is just amazingly crisp and vivid. It's better than any AVCHD camcorder to date, and is more or less indiscernible from the tape-based Canon HV20." By the way, the test they were referring to test color accuracy under varying light levels.
So as you can clearly see, the resolution of the Canon was significantly greater and the color performance was exemplary. Now I've had both the SR12 and the HG21 and I can totally concur. My A/B tests clearly show more discernible detail in small objects with the HG21 and an unquestionably sharper picture. My tests also showed more accurate and more neutral colors with less of a red bias shown on the SR12.
A German review site that goes into far more detail than any site I've seen in the U.S., also tested both cams and came to precisely the same conclusion. They called the resolution of the SR12 'very good' and that of the HG21 "excellent". So there is no doubt that the HG21/HG20/HF11/HF10 outclasses the SR11/SR12 in this area. I find it amusing that the very reviews you linked to totally refute your claims about resolution. But whatever.
So let's be accurate when we state the 'facts'. Anyone that's interested in that German review site, here's the link and it enables you to do side by side comparisons of many many camcorders. Unfortunately it's in German and you'll need something like the Google translator to get it to English. But most will understand the ratings and words such as 'gut' 'sehr gut' and 'excellent'.http://www.camcorder-test.com/
The autofocus of the Canons is unquestionably better and anyone that's used both knows that to be true. Canon uses an external sensor in addition to the through the lens sensor for quick and accurate focusing in all kinds of light, including low light where the Sony hunts and never locks on. My tests also confirm this. So again, you are less than accurate in your description. I've never read any review anywhere that claimed the Sony autofocus was more accurate. It's just not true.
Originally Posted by CaspianM
There are reportedly zoom&HD noise associated with the Canon as well and bottons make audible/recordable noise whereas Sony's touch screen are silent.
There is no difference IMO between the noises of either camera. Both cams can make very slightly audible noises in a very quiet room when the zoom is activated. By the way, Sony's touch screen does nothing to quiet the zoom motor. Opinions on touch screens vary, some like it some don't. I for one was always cleaning fingerprints off of my SR12...a negative. In bright sunlight, LCD screens are tough to see and that includes the Canon LCD screens. But after using both cams, I prefer not to have a touch screen. However this is purely a subjective matter and is something the user needs to determine which is best for him/her. Resolution and color accuracy are not subjective. Yes, some people may still prefer a cam whose color is not as accurate as another camera, so even there, color performance can be
The Canon offers more adjustments for picture tweakers and the Sony offers a bias control that allows you to deviate + or - from what the camera's auto exposure system wants to do. Each has their advantages.
Yes, the Sony offers face detection for those that like that. I for one never used it since I didn't like how it adjusted color. The tilting viewfinder is a nicety that the Canon lacks as is the surround sound which I did like.