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post #7051 of 7716
2/27/12 at 12:08pm
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Originally Posted by Lars99 View Post

Well, if we're talking Assassin's system as a microcosm as an example, I wouldn't recommend backups the way he is doing them.
Instead, I would use WHS to take weekly snapshots for restoration purposes and I would utilize a change detection method of offsight back up.

The probably with WHS and the like snapshots as Assassin is seeing is the redundant redundancy. Each backup is going to contain backups of the same file. So that copy of Gigli is getting created over and over again. If the file doesn't change, this is unnecessary for a home environment.

Instead, create backups of non-data segments, like OS, program files, registry, etc... and then utilize an off sight storage for his Gigli copy. Gigli gets written once and never again unless he decides to upgrade his 720P copy to 1080P.

In addition, I don't know his data or drive structure, but I would recommend some mechanism to protect against drive failure. A simple raid 5 array would be sufficient.

OK, thank you for that. It's the "redundant redundancy" issue that I'm trying to get a grasp of in order to avoid it. I have used Snapsot (and it saved my caboose a few times), but as a user not in any way IT. Now being retired I consider this as part hobby and part business, as it related to taxes, saving documents, movies, pictures, etc.

Do note that Assassin's and my needs are slightly different, while at the same time the final product is similar: Don't want to lose critical data and don't want to commit excessive resources to data backup.

Thanks again for your help.
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post #7052 of 7716
2/27/12 at 1:31pm
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Originally Posted by assassin View Post

Okay I have selected only my OS (SSD) drive to be backed up now from my primary HTPC.

How do I delete the backups that it made of my media folders from that machine?

You can't partially delete the contents of a client backup, you either delete the whole backup or leave it to be handled (in its entirety) by the retention policy that you've set.

If you want to manually delete old backups of your primary HTPC, then select that PC in the WHS 2011 Dashboard, and click on "view the computer properties". You'll then see a list of backups for that machine. Choose one that you want to delete, and click the "View details" button. You then see a drop-down box that will allow you to choose whether you want to have the backup deleted the next time Cleanup runs (a scheduled task that runs weekly on Sundays), keep the backup to be dealt with according to your retention policy, or simply keep the backup.
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post #7053 of 7716
2/27/12 at 1:42pm
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Originally Posted by tomandbeth View Post

OK, thank you for that. It's the "redundant redundancy" issue that I'm trying to get a grasp of in order to avoid it. I have used Snapsot (and it saved my caboose a few times), but as a user not in any way IT. Now being retired I consider this as part hobby and part business, as it related to taxes, saving documents, movies, pictures, etc.

Do note that Assassin's and my needs are slightly different, while at the same time the final product is similar: Don't want to lose critical data and don't want to commit excessive resources to data backup.

Thanks again for your help.

A simple offsight backup for important documents would be something to look into.

I'm a huge fan of Backblaze. Unlimited storage and very cheap.
http://www.backblaze.com/index.html
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post #7054 of 7716
2/27/12 at 1:50pm
I had a 2TB WD (green) drive on my WHSv1 server go bad over the weekend. The drive is still under warranty so WD is sending me a replacement.
I just now noticed that they are shipping me a WD25EZRS (a 2.5TB green drive). Normally I'd be quite pleased to get a bigger drive, but this time I'm not so sure given the 2TB limit.

I have an LGA 775 based system, so not exactly UEFI based or recent HW in general, although I have a Adaptec RAID 1430SA SATA controller card as well.

Does anyone know if this drive will work in my system?
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post #7055 of 7716
2/27/12 at 2:56pm
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Originally Posted by Lars99 View Post

A simple offsight backup for important documents would be something to look into.

I'm a huge fan of Backblaze. Unlimited storage and very cheap.
http://www.backblaze.com/index.html

Couldn't help but chuckle on Backblazes web page, as I keep crucial data on a HD that is then kept in a fire safe. And yes, sometimes I forget to run the backup. Talk about being nailed? Did you tell them about me ;-)
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post #7056 of 7716
2/27/12 at 4:18pm
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Originally Posted by andersa View Post

Does anyone know if this drive will work in my system?

You can use greater than 2TB drives if you follow this guide. I'm using all 2TB drives, so I haven't had a need to try that yet.
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post #7057 of 7716
2/27/12 at 4:57pm
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Originally Posted by Darin View Post

You can use greater than 2TB drives if you follow this guide. I'm using all 2TB drives, so I haven't had a need to try that yet.

Thanks Darin.

It's great to know it can be done. Given that I have 11 drives in the server . I'm not sure I want to mess with mount points and registry settings as I know I'll screw something up.

If I just install the drive, will it at least show up as a 2TB drive, or is that not possible given the advance formatting?

I have an external USB enclose which claims to support up to 3TB. If I put the drive in it, would WHS be able to see it? At 2TB or 2.5TB?

Sorry about all the questions. I had planned on sticking to 2TB drives for some time, until Win8 is released and then get new HW and larger drives to avoid this hassle.

Perhaps I should just contact WD and ask them to send a 2TB replacement...
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post #7058 of 7716
2/27/12 at 5:24pm
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Originally Posted by andersa View Post

If I just install the drive, will it at least show up as a 2TB drive, or is that not possible given the advance formatting?

Honestly, I don't know. I have some advanced format drives in my system, but they are all 2TB, and have one way or another to allow for backwards compatiblity (a jumper on WDs, automatic on Samsungs), but I don't know what would happen on an advanced format drive >2TB.
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post #7059 of 7716
2/28/12 at 9:45pm
Hi all,
new here,just read the last 20 pages and have a few questions to help me down the road of my first media server, which I want to setup to deliver music to 10 zones and a approx 500GB videos and pictures to one or two tv's

it seems that nearly all of the talk here is on hardware, and that of streamers is kept for another forum, but could I get some quick feedback on what OS people are generally running on their media servers and why, and how they get their music and videos displayed and controlled.

So far my audio audio options (on the cheap and DIY) are itunes with AE's using windows or JRMC with sound cards using windows or whs, and video I've no thoughts other than maybe ATV2 or WD streamer.

I also want to be able to stream my content outside my home network, which suggest I need whs

thanks
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post #7060 of 7716
2/29/12 at 7:11pm
OK, I got the LSI 9260 and the intel port expander installed. Set up the initial RAID 5 with 1.5Tx6 drives, set up in win 7 and ran some tests. Very pleased with the results compared to the software RAID solution I was running.

I then wanted to add another 1.5T drive to the array. Still using MegaRAID WebBIOS I went to add the new drive. WebBIOS sees the drive in a unconfig status. Should mention I chose the add configuration, manual configuration, and Redundancy when possible.

Next I selected the unconfig'd drive and added it to the array and then accepted the array group it was added to. Drive is now in a online status.

Next screen shows arrays with free space. Only array showing here is a RAID 0 array for drive group:1. All my other drives are in drive group:0. Adding the new drive results in only a RAID 0 option. From this I assume a new group has been created and since I only have one drive I am trying to add, my only option is RAID 0.

How can I add the new drive to Group 0 so that it becomes part of the RAID 5 pool? User guide was pretty short on adding drives....

Update: Found it under modifying the RAID group. Selected same RAID 5 level and next page listed the unconfig'd drive. running now

Update: OMG, 8 hours later, 5% completed, estimated time to completion 130 hours. One area that the software raid solution has this beat hands down..

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post #7061 of 7716
3/1/12 at 5:28am
Good morning all,
I've been running a HP EX470 WHS for a little over 3 years now. I have 13 TB of drive storage.... 4 drives in the HP enclosure (1 TB system drive, 2x 1.5 TB drives, and a 2 TB drive), and an eSATA 4 Bay enclosure with 4 more 2 TB drives. I'm down to 1 TB of free space on my system, and my WHS keeps crashing, won't reboot, and my only solution is to restore, and that only lasts for about a day at a time before it crashes hard again. I know MS hates getting below 20% free space before it screams, but I can't expand anymore, short of a single USB drive, but I'm trying to reserve that for removing files.

In any case, I'm exploring my options for upgrading. One option is to replace the 1 TB system drive with a 2 TB drive, but that only gains me a little time and not a lot of space for my movies. Replacing the 1.5 TB drives with 2 TB drives again only gets me an extra TB total (less really with overhead). I know there are 3 TB drives out there, but I know it is a lot of work to get WHS to recognize the drives.

I'm using My Movies for my movie management, so I don't think going linux on a new build is an option, plus I'm not entirely sure my linux skills are good enough to pull it off. I recently upgraded my desktop and my WHS, so I have a Gigabyte GA-E7AUM-DS2H LGA 775 Micro ATX Motherboard, 8GB RAM, and a Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 CPU available to build a new system. I would need a decent case with bays to accommodate the drives and a power supply to power everything.

So, if I get those two options, presumably migrate to WHS 2011, how can I best move my files to the new server? Granted, the eSATA enclosure could be easily used on the new server, but since WHS 2011 doesn't use drive pooling, it wouldn't recognize the content, correct?

And speaking of.... what's the easiest way to manage the drives with no drive pooling?

I'd appreciate any input you all can give me.
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post #7062 of 7716
3/1/12 at 5:48am
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Originally Posted by tmorgenthaler View Post

I know MS hates getting below 20% free space before it screams

I don't know what your problem is, but I don't think it's free space. WHS's default setting targets only 20GB free on the pool drives. I can't remember the last time I had 20% free space. If you've done a re-install and you're still crashing, I would suspect a hardware issue.
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post #7063 of 7716
3/1/12 at 6:04am
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Originally Posted by Darin View Post

I don't know what your problem is, but I don't think it's free space. WHS's default setting targets only 20GB free on the pool drives. I can't remember the last time I had 20% free space. If you've done a re-install and you're still crashing, I would suspect a hardware issue.

It may very well be a hardware issue, but I can't figure out what. The EX470 has always been a bit buggy for me, but I've never been able to put my finger on the cause. Right now the health light just blinks blue at me and won't boot. I fixed this for about a day by restoring the system, but the next morning I woke up and it was blinking blue at me again.

Regardless, I'm approaching the upper limit for drive space. I've also had frequent issues with choppy streaming to my HTPC, especially with Blu-ray. I've eliminated several possible sources on the HTPC, including substituting the buggy Realtek onboard NIC with an aweseome Intel PCIe NIC, but the problems continue. I suspect the WHS is just overloaded driving 8 HDDs and 13 TB of data on the AMD 1.8Ghz Sempron 3400+ processor, even RAM expanded to 2 GB of RAM.

Thus, thinking of migrating. Just not sure what the best approach will be. Drive Extender concerns.... data migration concerns... lack of support for 3 TB drive concerns.


BTW, when I first started reading the post, the "I don't know what your problem is" sounded very hostile. Further reading revealed differently, but just a FYI :-)
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post #7064 of 7716
3/1/12 at 6:12am
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Originally Posted by tmorgenthaler View Post

BTW, when I first started reading the post, the "I don't know what your problem is" sounded very hostile. Further reading revealed differently, but just a FYI :-)

I had the same initial reaction - until I continued reading .
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post #7065 of 7716
3/1/12 at 7:30am
Heh, sorry, I meant "I don't know the cause of your problems".

FWIW, the things I've found to contribute the most to solve stuttering issues have been: scheduling demigrator to only run for a little bit at night when I won't be streaming, and disabling network throttling on the clients (google NetworkThrottlingIndex). I have 20 drives in the pool on an e8400, and the only time it really struggles with it is when accessing them all in parallel for my nightly FlexRAID validate/verify. That really bogs it down, so that's also scheduled to run in the middle of the night. WHS v1 can handle 31 pool drives, and there are some out there that have pushed it up to that limit. But I'm running a home-built system. I understand the the retail WHS servers can be a little more finicky.
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post #7066 of 7716
3/1/12 at 7:53am
If you don't mind a tower, a good quality but not expensive case with a ton of room would be the Antec Three Hundred. I think it's pretty good looking too (I have one but not for my WHS).
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post #7067 of 7716
3/1/12 at 7:56am
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Originally Posted by StardogChampion View Post

If you don't mind a tower, a good quality but not expensive case with a ton of room would be the Antec Three Hundred. I think it's pretty good looking too (I have one but not for my WHS).

That's my server right there.

BTW there also is the Antec Three Hundred Two. Its the new version with some cool updates.
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post #7068 of 7716
3/1/12 at 8:04am
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Originally Posted by assassin View Post

That's my server right there.

BTW there also is the Antec Three Hundred Two. Its the new version with some cool updates.

Nice. I like the new drive mounts. Very Dell (meant in a good way in this case).
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post #7069 of 7716
3/1/12 at 8:11am
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Originally Posted by tmorgenthaler View Post

Good morning all,
I've been running a HP EX470 WHS for a little over 3 years now. I have 13 TB of drive storage.... 4 drives in the HP enclosure (1 TB system drive, 2x 1.5 TB drives, and a 2 TB drive), and an eSATA 4 Bay enclosure with 4 more 2 TB drives. I'm down to 1 TB of free space on my system, and my WHS keeps crashing, won't reboot, and my only solution is to restore, and that only lasts for about a day at a time before it crashes hard again. I know MS hates getting below 20% free space before it screams, but I can't expand anymore, short of a single USB drive, but I'm trying to reserve that for removing files.

In any case, I'm exploring my options for upgrading. One option is to replace the 1 TB system drive with a 2 TB drive, but that only gains me a little time and not a lot of space for my movies. Replacing the 1.5 TB drives with 2 TB drives again only gets me an extra TB total (less really with overhead). I know there are 3 TB drives out there, but I know it is a lot of work to get WHS to recognize the drives.

I'm using My Movies for my movie management, so I don't think going linux on a new build is an option, plus I'm not entirely sure my linux skills are good enough to pull it off. I recently upgraded my desktop and my WHS, so I have a Gigabyte GA-E7AUM-DS2H LGA 775 Micro ATX Motherboard, 8GB RAM, and a Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 CPU available to build a new system. I would need a decent case with bays to accommodate the drives and a power supply to power everything.

So, if I get those two options, presumably migrate to WHS 2011, how can I best move my files to the new server? Granted, the eSATA enclosure could be easily used on the new server, but since WHS 2011 doesn't use drive pooling, it wouldn't recognize the content, correct?

And speaking of.... what's the easiest way to manage the drives with no drive pooling?

I'd appreciate any input you all can give me.

I have used WHS v1 and am currently running WHS 2011. WHS is exceptional for client PC backup and great for general file storage (photos, music, documents, etc). I also have my MyMovies database on WHS 2011. WHS 2011 does not like to support drives larger than 2TB. WHS both versions have many peculiar characteristics, often seeming to have a mind of its own.

I use and recommend Win 7 64bit for movie storage. It supports all programs you would want to use in managing movies. I just use my old drives for backup and run the server JBOD. Other than MS Secutiry Essentials I have no programs that are running when Win 7 is used as a server. With WHS you have no ideas what is going to decided to do.

As I recall WHS v1 drives used with Drive Extender are still in a NTFS format. It was not recommended to use them as is with another OS. I would connect them to the new box then copy the files to another drive.

MyMovies supports mass updating of storage folders. Change the location of a movie, and it will detect that multiple movies have changed locations and ask if you wish to change all of them. It will only prompt for this if you manually navigate to the folder. If you paste in the path, it will not ask. It is best to use a UNC path i.e. "\\\\SERVER\\MOVIE1" and not a mapped drive letter.
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post #7070 of 7716
3/2/12 at 5:12am
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Originally Posted by StardogChampion View Post

If you don't mind a tower, a good quality but not expensive case with a ton of room would be the Antec Three Hundred. I think it's pretty good looking too (I have one but not for my WHS).

I have the original Nine Hundred for my Desktop. I've been considering upgrading it to something more friendly to water cooling, so I if I was going to go with a Three Hundred, I might as well just swap out towers. I have to say though, I like how the Three Hundred has it's HDD bays pointed to the side. I really don't like how the HDD bays on the Nine Hundred work. They are a pain. Even the new Nine Hundred v3 uses the same method, although they've improved some things, like an opening on the back of the motherboard tray for changing out the fan brackets, USB3, and a fully painted interior.
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post #7071 of 7716
3/2/12 at 5:34am
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Originally Posted by Darin View Post

Heh, sorry, I meant "I don't know the cause of your problems".

FWIW, the things I've found to contribute the most to solve stuttering issues have been: scheduling demigrator to only run for a little bit at night when I won't be streaming, and disabling network throttling on the clients (google NetworkThrottlingIndex). I have 20 drives in the pool on an e8400, and the only time it really struggles with it is when accessing them all in parallel for my nightly FlexRAID validate/verify. That really bogs it down, so that's also scheduled to run in the middle of the night. WHS v1 can handle 31 pool drives, and there are some out there that have pushed it up to that limit. But I'm running a home-built system. I understand the the retail WHS servers can be a little more finicky.

No worries, I didn't think you were trying to be an a$$

In any case, last night I actually had some down time, which is rare for me. I pulled the system drive / 1st data drive (a.k.a., 1st hard drive) out of the EX470. It's a Samsung Spinpoint F1 HD103UJ 7200 RPM HDD. I hooked it up to one of my free SATA ports on my destkop, plugged in power for it, and I first checked the SMART status on Crystal Disk Info, which I use to monitor the health of the SSD's on my desktop. SMART status showed okay.

Well, I'm still suspicious of this drive. I went to Seagate's site (Seagate took over Samsung's HDD line), and downloaded SeaTools for Windows and ran the Short DST test. After 16 seconds, it failed, but didn't tell me why. I ran their Short Generic test, after another 1:43 minutes, it passed. Okay, mixed messages anyone? Finally, I ran the Long Generic Test, and 3 hours and 7 minutes later, it failed. Problem is, their test doesn't tell me why. It's supposed to, but their tools are designed for Seagate drives. I called tech support and asked if they had specific tools for Samsung drives, and was told that SeaTools will work. Evidently not entirely. In any case, the drive is still under warranty until June, so as soon as I can order a new drive and pull the data off of it, I'll send it in, and the one I get back I'll probably stick in my HTPC as a data drive for my Ceton tuner.

Now, I just need to decide what drive to buy. I'm annoyed that the price of HDDs still hasn't come back down to where it was. A year ago I could pick up a 7200 rpm 2 TB HDD for about $120 through NewEgg. Now, you are looking at $160 plus for the same drive. I'm not entirely sure I need the 7200 RPM for streaming or not, but I really don't want to loose performance if I can help it....
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post #7072 of 7716
3/2/12 at 5:50am
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Originally Posted by John P View Post

I have used WHS v1 and am currently running WHS 2011. WHS is exceptional for client PC backup and great for general file storage (photos, music, documents, etc). I also have my MyMovies database on WHS 2011. WHS 2011 does not like to support drives larger than 2TB. WHS both versions have many peculiar characteristics, often seeming to have a mind of its own.

I use and recommend Win 7 64bit for movie storage. It supports all programs you would want to use in managing movies. I just use my old drives for backup and run the server JBOD. Other than MS Secutiry Essentials I have no programs that are running when Win 7 is used as a server. With WHS you have no ideas what is going to decided to do.

As I recall WHS v1 drives used with Drive Extender are still in a NTFS format. It was not recommended to use them as is with another OS. I would connect them to the new box then copy the files to another drive.

MyMovies supports mass updating of storage folders. Change the location of a movie, and it will detect that multiple movies have changed locations and ask if you wish to change all of them. It will only prompt for this if you manually navigate to the folder. If you paste in the path, it will not ask. It is best to use a UNC path i.e. "\\\\SERVER\\MOVIE1" and not a mapped drive letter.

I'm not sure I would want another Windows 7 box for my storage. Yes, it'll run everything, but great thing about a server is you don't have to be logged in all the time. If you have a power failure, and you set it up right to come back up, the services will still run. With a client workstation, even if it powers back up, you're still going to have to login, or set it to login without credentials. I also end up spending money on another license. Even a developers OEM license isn't cheap. Linux is free

I'm not certain I want to migrate away from My Movies, but a thought may be to move all the movies off of the WHS, keep the DB running, but run a Linux box as a file server. Much less overhead, and I don't have to buy another license. Linux has Logical Volume Management, which is very much like Drive Extender in WHS, but without the Windows drawbacks.

If I keep the EX470 running, I can still use it for other storage needs, like client backups, photos, and music storage, which is what it is meant for. The DB can still manage the movies, it'll just point them off to the network storage on the linux box.
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post #7073 of 7716
3/2/12 at 7:08am
morgenthaler, FYI, I had a 2TB Samsung F3 drive that had been giving me some pending reallocated sector reports for some time, but I let it go because those sectors weren't being used. Then one day, all of a sudden that drive dropped out of the pool, and couldn't be read because somehow the MBR had "disappeared" from that drive. It too was under warranty, and failed Seatools, so I was able to RMA it. It wasn't quite as painless as my last WD RMA, as there was no "advanced replacement" option. So I had to scrounge up a proper package to send it back in, then wait for a replacement. I was kind of bummed because their initial RMA info said I would get a Seagate green drive back, but I was pleased to actually get another F3 drive back, which appears to be new, and the expiration date on the warranty of the replacement is later than the expiration of the original drive (but sooner than 3 years from the replacment date, so I don't know how they calculated it).

I hear you on the drive cost issue. I've bought a bunch of 2TB drives, over the past couple years, and have been paying $60 or less since Nov of '10. I predict I'll be out of space by June, but I'm holding off 'till the last minute hoping they'll come down a bit. But sadly, with the competition now reduced down to a duopoly, I think it'll be a long time before the "deals" they get back to where they were. From what I've read on the topic, it appears WD and Seagate are going to milk the flooding excuse for all they can.
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post #7074 of 7716
3/2/12 at 8:07am
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Originally Posted by Darin View Post

morgenthaler, FYI, I had a 2TB Samsung F3 drive that had been giving me some pending reallocated sector reports for some time, but I let it go because those sectors weren't being used. Then one day, all of a sudden that drive dropped out of the pool, and couldn't be read because somehow the MBR had "disappeared" from that drive. It too was under warranty, and failed Seatools, so I was able to RMA it. It wasn't quite as painless as my last WD RMA, as there was no "advanced replacement" option. So I had to scrounge up a proper package to send it back in, then wait for a replacement. I was kind of bummed because their initial RMA info said I would get a Seagate green drive back, but I was pleased to actually get another F3 drive back, which appears to be new, and the expiration date on the warranty of the replacement is later than the expiration of the original drive (but sooner than 3 years from the replacment date, so I don't know how they calculated it).

I hear you on the drive cost issue. I've bought a bunch of 2TB drives, over the past couple years, and have been paying $60 or less since Nov of '10. I predict I'll be out of space by June, but I'm holding off 'till the last minute hoping they'll come down a bit. But sadly, with the competition now reduced down to a duopoly, I think it'll be a long time before the "deals" they get back to where they were. From what I've read on the topic, it appears WD and Seagate are going to milk the flooding excuse for all they can.

I'm getting a little bummed with Seagate RMA as well. I have ANOTHER drive that failed, but on my laptop, that I sent into Seagate last week. They received it on Monday (according to tracking), but only just yesterday (Thursday) acknowledged receipt. They are still In Process on sending me one back. I'll be without my laptop for at least two weeks by the time they get it back to me, then I'll need to restore. I really hate not having Advanced RMA. I think my Replacement before the Replacement drive is going to need to be a WD. I really don't like Seagate.

I had a Hitachi drive I sent in for RMA and they did a same day turn around, although they send their drives from Singapore, so no tracking info and it takes 7-10 days to get to you.
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post #7075 of 7716
3/2/12 at 8:16am
Yeah, there was a few day delay from receipt to turnaround on mine too. Fortunately I had a spare (purchased before the prices skyrocketed), so it wasn't a big deal. The bigger deal to me now is the warranties. Both Seagate and WD have dropped the warranties on the consumer-grade drives down to 2 years. It seems they've the left the Samsung and Hitachi warranties at 3 years, so far, but you know it won't last.
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post #7076 of 7716
3/2/12 at 8:34am
WD turnaround is good - I submitted my RMA on Sunday and had the replacement drive on Wednesday.
But since they send me a 2.5TB drive, I'll probably have to send it back.
I'll play with it a bit over the weekend, but I suspect it won't be worth the hassle to keep it.
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post #7077 of 7716
3/2/12 at 8:45am
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Originally Posted by tmorgenthaler View Post

I'm not sure I would want another Windows 7 box for my storage. Yes, it'll run everything, but great thing about a server is you don't have to be logged in all the time. If you have a power failure, and you set it up right to come back up, the services will still run. With a client workstation, even if it powers back up, you're still going to have to login, or set it to login without credentials.

That has nothing to do with whether it's a client or server OS. It has to do with whether the application runs as a service/daemon or application. You can run both of those on a workstation OS.
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post #7078 of 7716
3/2/12 at 8:58am
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Originally Posted by miltimj View Post

That has nothing to do with whether it's a client or server OS. It has to do with whether the application runs as a service/daemon or application. You can run both of those on a workstation OS.

True, however, I still end up having to shell out more duckets to M$ for a license. I also firmly believe that I can run a Linux box with less overhead and my multimedia will run smoother than a windows box.
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post #7079 of 7716
3/2/12 at 7:52pm
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Originally Posted by tmorgenthaler View Post

True, however, I still end up having to shell out more duckets to M$ for a license. I also firmly believe that I can run a Linux box with less overhead and my multimedia will run smoother than a windows box.

$50 from SuperBiiz -- hard to beat that for what's basically Server 2008 R2 under the hood, plus 10 client backup licenses. That's what got me on WHS2011. I'd looked at Amahi, which I really liked but I still would have had to figure out client backups and it would not have been as nicely integrated.
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3/3/12 at 7:40am
Figured out how to manually cleanup the backups I don't want. Will report back. Pre-cleanup had about 1.6TB of backups.
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