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post #7261 of 7742
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

I did.

Am I supposed to name the USB stick cfg.ini ?

Or just save a notepad file called cfg.ini on the USB stick ?

Been there, done that, have the divorce

It apparantly does not work on all hardware configurations as advertised. I had to use a hack:
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The cfg.ini did not work for me. The install would not read it. If you have issues useing this way try this

As soon as you are greeted with the screen asking if you want a new install or to repair a previous one push Shift + F10 to bring up cmd.

Type "notepad.exe" without quotes then click file open and browse to sources/SKU/SERVERHOMEPREMIUM.def (you may have to select all files at the bottom so you can see the .def file).

From inside here you can change your amount of ram, number of cpu cores, HDD space, and processor speed to suit your needs. Save and close notepad.

Type "wpshell.exe" without quotes and hit enter => setup will restart with the new parameters. Hope this can help someone out and thanks again.

Thanks to esullivan here: http://forums.connecteddigitalworld....__20#entry3618

I actually had to combine the two things, i.e. insert the USB stick with the cfg.ini file in the root as well as alter the hardware min requirement file (I changed HDD from 160 to 30 Gb). One without the other did not work for me. It did not run as an unattended setup, but it started up without having to choose OS disk etc.

You might also try adding [InitialConfiguration] to the cfg.ini file, if just having the WinPE lines doesn't work. And, like said earlier, try ALL USB ports before giving up...:

[WinPE]
ConfigDisk=1
CheckReqs=0
WindowsPartitionSize=MAX

[InitialConfiguration]
Language=en-US
Locale=en-US
Country=US
Keyboard=00000409
AcceptEula=true
AcceptOEMEula=true
ServerName=SERVER
PlainTextPassword=Password
PasswordHint=Password hint
Settings=All

Make sure you save it as an .ini file and not a cfg.ini.txt file ;-)
You wrote you saved it as a notepad file. That is a .txt file unless you choose "all file types" before saving!


Another important requirement:
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Its worth noting that for the above to work correctly, boot priorities must be correctly set up. I recently did a reinstall and kept hitting an error. The config file was being read as it was being edited to say it had, however install was failing. After a refresh (of my brain) I realised this cfg file hits a particular hard disk ID, for which for me it required it to be the PRIMARY boot device. I have a feeling this will really depend on which SATA port the install HDD is placed into, but haven’t had time to test properly.

Therefore, if you experience an issue where the INI file is identical to the above, and its definitely being read (you can tell by windows flag after read, which incidentally needs removing each time) then change your boot config. Also MAKE SURE ONLY THE HDD YOU WISH TO INSTALL TO IS IN THE PC (i.e. no data drives, add them after install) to make sure you don’t accidentally overwrite it!

http://forums.connecteddigitalworld....0gb/#entry2963

Last, once you get it going, remember to remove the USB key when the installation restarts the machine the first time!

Good luck!
post #7262 of 7742
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

I did.

Am I supposed to name the USB stick cfg.ini ?

Or just save a notepad file called cfg.ini on the USB stick ?

The USB stick doesn't need a name. Just the cfg.ini file saved to the NTFS formatted drive.
post #7263 of 7742
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Originally Posted by bryansj View Post

The USB stick doesn't need a name. Just the cfg.ini file saved to the NTFS formatted drive.



This look right ?

It is still not working.

Should it be cfg.ini or just cfg and an .ini file ?

When I named it -t shows at cfg. If I change name it shows in properties as cfg.ini.ini and that seems wrong.

?


the properties look right? Am I doing something wrong?
post #7264 of 7742
Quote:
The cfg.ini did not work for me. The install would not read it. If you have issues useing this way try this

As soon as you are greeted with the screen asking if you want a new install or to repair a previous one push Shift + F10 to bring up cmd.

Type "notepad.exe" without quotes then click file open and browse to sources/SKU/SERVERHOMEPREMIUM.def (you may have to select all files at the bottom so you can see the .def file).

From inside here you can change your amount of ram, number of cpu cores, HDD space, and processor speed to suit your needs. Save and close notepad.

Type "wpshell.exe" without quotes and hit enter => setup will restart with the new parameters. Hope this can help someone out and thanks again.

This appears to be working
post #7265 of 7742
As soon as you are greeted with the screen asking if you want a new install or to repair a previous one push Shift + F10 to bring up cmd.

Type "notepad.exe" without quotes then click file open and browse to sources/SKU/SERVERHOMEPREMIUM.def (you may have to select all files at the bottom so you can see the .def file).

From inside here you can change your amount of ram, number of cpu cores, HDD space, and processor speed to suit your needs. Save and close notepad.

Type "wpshell.exe" without quotes and hit enter => setup will restart with the new parameters.


That above did it!!!!

You rock man!!! thank you!!!
post #7266 of 7742
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Originally Posted by assassin View Post

Server motherboard or standard motherboard for a whs 2011 htpc server?

What say you?

IMHO, standard motherboard.

I can't see any advantage of using a server motherboard for a straight-up media server (sharing files, backing up, maybe even some transcoding).

If other things are happening on the server that require ECC, redundancy, virtualization, running a website with a lot of traffic or where 24x7 is important, etc. then maybe that's different. I just don't see the extra features and cost of a server motherboard, CPU and RAM being useful to regular ol' media server applications.

It's like anything, right? What's the usage going to be vs. the cost of additional features. There's no sense in dropping coin on features that'll never be used or that, while useful, aren't really worth it.
post #7267 of 7742
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Originally Posted by StardogChampion View Post

IMHO, standard motherboard.

I can't see any advantage of using a server motherboard for a straight-up media server (sharing files, backing up, maybe even some transcoding).

If other things are happening on the server that require ECC, redundancy, virtualization, running a website with a lot of traffic or where 24x7 is important, etc. then maybe that's different. I just don't see the extra features and cost of a server motherboard, CPU and RAM being useful to regular ol' media server applications.

It's like anything, right? What's the usage going to be vs. the cost of additional features. There's no sense in dropping coin on features that'll never be used or that, while useful, aren't really worth it.

I am looking for a board.

Standard MOBO. But I want something that has Intel LAN and features that are good for servers (like fast high amount of SATA ports)
post #7268 of 7742
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

I am looking for a board.

Standard MOBO. But I want something that has Intel LAN and features that are good for servers (like fast high amount of SATA ports)

I just upgraded my main system with an ASUS P9X79 WS - LGA 2011 - X79 that might fit your requirements (you didn't give a price range... ). It has 8 SATA ports (4 are SATA III), USB 3.0, and dual Intel LAN.
post #7269 of 7742
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

I just upgraded my main system with an ASUS P9X79 WS - LGA 2011 - X79 that might fit your requirements (you didn't give a price range... ). It has 8 SATA ports (4 are SATA III), USB 3.0, and dual Intel LAN.

That is serious! LGA2011 for the win!

No.. I am stuck on LGA1155 for now. It's cheaper/budget thing.

If I get serious about my server I might go that route in future.

I just want a motherboard with 8 SATA and Intel LAN for $99 (prefer ASUS or Asrock) that will let me run 1600mhz DDR3 on a Sandy or Ivy CPU. (Does this exist?)

If I was getting serious I would get the Extreme9 from Asrock (12 SATA ports )
post #7270 of 7742
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

As soon as you are greeted with the screen asking if you want a new install or to repair a previous one push Shift + F10 to bring up cmd.

Type "notepad.exe" without quotes then click file open and browse to sources/SKU/SERVERHOMEPREMIUM.def (you may have to select all files at the bottom so you can see the .def file).

From inside here you can change your amount of ram, number of cpu cores, HDD space, and processor speed to suit your needs. Save and close notepad.

Type "wpshell.exe" without quotes and hit enter => setup will restart with the new parameters.


That above did it!!!!

You rock man!!! thank you!!!

Glad it worked out for you :-)
post #7271 of 7742
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Originally Posted by Jacob B View Post

Glad it worked out for you :-)

Me too. I did it twice.

That whole USB thing is a bunch of crap.

Just hit F10+Shift and change the minimum drive to 30GB and it installs clean everytime
post #7272 of 7742
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

I just want a motherboard with 8 SATA and Intel LAN for $99 (prefer ASUS or Asrock) that will let me run 1600mhz DDR3 on a Sandy or Ivy CPU. (Does this exist?)

On 1155 consumer grade mobos i doubt it, i havent seen one with 8 sata ports. My advise is toward go with the mobo you prefer, and sata ports just get IBM M1015 on ebay (cross check the mobo you buying if you wont have issues).
post #7273 of 7742
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Originally Posted by Abula View Post

On 1155 consumer grade mobos i doubt it, i havent seen one with 8 sata ports. My advise is toward go with the mobo you prefer, and sata ports just get IBM M1015 on ebay (cross check the mobo you buying if you wont have issues).

Sure there are. For $99 and $105 actually.

I posted the links somewhere.
post #7274 of 7742
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Originally Posted by assassin View Post

Sure there are. For $99 and $105 actually.

I posted the links somewhere.

It's the Asrock h77. Should be plenty of ports for anyone to start out with until hard drive prices start coming down and it becomes economical to expand.
post #7275 of 7742
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Originally Posted by JackDiesel14 View Post

It's the Asrock h77. Should be plenty of ports for anyone to start out with until hard drive prices start coming down and it becomes economical to expand.

Yep. m-ATX is $99. ATX is $105.
post #7276 of 7742
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Originally Posted by JackDiesel14 View Post

It's the Asrock h77. Should be plenty of ports for anyone to start out with until hard drive prices start coming down and it becomes economical to expand.


No. No. I am not exactly starting out. I had 16 HDD's inside my main machine. I went about as far as I could before I built a server... lol.

I am not looking for a stopgap until drive prices come down.

I own:
PCI SATAIIx4 port card
PCI-X SATAIII x2 card
PCI SATA 1.5gps (sata1) 4x card.

I have 6 2TB drives.
I have 3 3TB drives
I have 2 1TB Samsungs
I have a 750GB, 320GB, and (4)300GB veliciraptors

I am about to purchase another 3TB.

My plan is to make a server with nothing smaller than 2TB drives in the 20-25TB total range. I would totally use up the 8 SATA ports quickly, and have to install a SATA card.

It's not big deal cause normal HDD's are slow dogs. SATAII is more than fast enough to handle them.


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Originally Posted by assassin View Post

Yep. m-ATX is $99. ATX is $105.

But no Intel Lan

I am looking for a $100 Board that can do 1600mhz DDR3 on IVY OR Sandy- with Intel LAN and also 8 or more SATA ports.

I can get some- but not all. Best I seen is the Asus Z77 with Intel LAN. It looks sweet. It's more than $100 though.

I had my eyes on the Asus on EggSaver today. Z68 Asus PRO for $99 no rebates. Seems solid option. But not INTEL LAN.
post #7277 of 7742
Assasin is right, there are a couple of cheap asrock boards that come with 8 sata ports,

ASRock H77 Pro4-M LGA 1155 Intel H77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard $90
ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP LGA 1155 Intel H77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard $95

Now for the intel integrated, if you feel you want an intel card, then just get the add in, Intel EXPI9301CT Desktop Adapter Gigabit CT 10/ 100/ 1000Mbps PCI-Express or if you dont want to use a PCIe slot, might be worth saving for some M1015 for the future and end up with 24 sata ports, then use a PCI intel nic, Intel PWLA8391GT PRO/1000 GT PCI Network Adapter.
post #7278 of 7742
Thanks. This is basically what I have been considering.

I am running a H61 board now.
post #7279 of 7742
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

Thanks. This is basically what I have been considering.

I am running a H61 board now.

Well in your case wouldn't it just be best to say screw the 8 SATA ports and get a mobo with built in Intel LAN, saving yourself a PCI slot for your SATA cards?

Right now I don't think there is just one board out there that can do everything you're looking for at a reasonable price point.
post #7280 of 7742
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Originally Posted by JackDiesel14 View Post


Well in your case wouldn't it just be best to say screw the 8 SATA ports and get a mobo with built in Intel LAN, saving yourself a PCI slot for your SATA cards?

Right now I don't think there is just one board out there that can do everything you're looking for at a reasonable price point.

Link? Recommendation ?
post #7281 of 7742
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

Link? Recommendation ?

No clue, I haven't built one myself. I'll eventually build one but it's not the right time for me yet. I'm just gonna see what you do so I can pretty much do the same, but on a smaller scale.
post #7282 of 7742
Now that Ivy Bridge is out, I have been looking at several of those chips to put into my yet to be built server. I am looking for a server that will house about 12 HD right now, with the possiblity of upgrading to another 8 for a total of 20HD. Mostly it will be used for file storage but I also will be using it for live transcoding blurays for my ipad. So transcoding is important. I have heard that Ivy Bridge does a GREAT/FAST job at transcoding which is why I am considedring that line.

Two questions that come to mind.
1. The lowest voltage rating for Ivy I have found out right now is 65W. Is that that rating based on maximum wattage they consume or is that minimum? I ask because the other chip (sandy bridge) I have been looking at is 35W.
2. Can someone recommend a good mother board wth 6-8 SATA II or SATAIII ports?

Thank you,
post #7283 of 7742
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Originally Posted by stepmback View Post

Now that Ivy Bridge is out, I have been looking at several of those chips to put into my yet to be built server. I am looking for a server that will house about 12 HD right now, with the possiblity of upgrading to another 8 for a total of 20HD. Mostly it will be used for file storage but I also will be using it for live transcoding blurays for my ipad. So transcoding is important. I have heard that Ivy Bridge does a GREAT/FAST job at transcoding which is why I am considedring that line.

Two questions that come to mind.
1. The lowest voltage rating for Ivy I have found out right now is 65W. Is that that rating based on maximum wattage they consume or is that minimum? I ask because the other chip (sandy bridge) I have been looking at is 35W.
2. Can someone recommend a good mother board wth 6-8 SATA II or SATAIII ports?

Thank you,

See 5 posts above.
post #7284 of 7742
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Originally Posted by Abula View Post

Now for the intel integrated, if you feel you want an intel card, then just get the add in, Intel EXPI9301CT Desktop Adapter Gigabit CT 10/ 100/ 1000Mbps PCI-Express

I've been having random issues the past week with the Realtek 8111E on my WHS board so I was looking at dropping in an Intel NIC too. However, I am not sure what the difference is between these two other than $5.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...106%2D033%2DTS

[Edit]
Nevermind. For $5 you get a cardbox and a disk.
post #7285 of 7742
hi.

what is a good sata pcie card for at least 3tb hd?
post #7286 of 7742
Quote:
Originally Posted by stepmback View Post

1. The lowest voltage rating for Ivy I have found out right now is 65W. Is that that rating based on maximum wattage they consume or is that minimum? I ask because the other chip (sandy bridge) I have been looking at is 35W.

What program are you planning to use for you live transcoding? and how are you movies store atm?

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Originally Posted by audionewer View Post

what is a good sata pcie card for at least 3tb hd?

What OS you planning on using it, do you need hadware raid or just a pass though with software raid or just a JBOD, etc? LSI Internal SATA/SAS 9211-8i 6Gb/s PCI-Express 2.0 RAID Controller Card, Single is decent HBA, flashed to IT you it runs great in ZFS, Windows (check you os for support), IBM M1015 is also a very popular specially for the price, cross check that it will be supported the OS you chose.
post #7287 of 7742
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Originally Posted by JackDiesel14 View Post

Well in your case wouldn't it just be best to say screw the 8 SATA ports and get a mobo with built in Intel LAN, saving yourself a PCI slot for your SATA cards?

Right now I don't think there is just one board out there that can do everything you're looking for at a reasonable price point.

The Asus P8B WS comes in mind if you want many PCIe 2.0 as well as Intel NIC onboard. I have it for my newest WHS 2011 setup (which I might try to transfer to a VM running on a W7 64-bit host. Whs 2011 is limited to 8 Gb ram and I have 16, which I want to use for a RAM disk for live tv timeshift)
I know it is an expensive server board, but you will not run out if PCIe slots or bandwidth. It has 2 x PCIe 2.0 x 8 and 2 x PCIe 2.0 x 4 !!

Jacob
post #7288 of 7742
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Originally Posted by Abula View Post

LSI Internal SATA/SAS 9211-8i 6Gb/s PCI-Express 2.0 RAID Controller Card, Single is decent HBA, flashed to IT you it runs great in ZFS, Windows (check you os for support), IBM M1015 is also a very popular specially for the price, cross check that it will be supported the OS you chose.

Of course, it's worth mentioning that the best part of the IBM M1015 is that it can be flashed to an LSI 9211-8i, but can be found for 1/3 the price. I'm not aware of there being any major MB incompatibilities with using the card, but not all motherboards will flash it.
post #7289 of 7742
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Originally Posted by audionewer View Post

hi.

what is a good sata pcie card for at least 3tb hd?

Good ?

Or good deal ?

Different questions.
post #7290 of 7742
Quote:
Originally Posted by Abula View Post

What program are you planning to use for you live transcoding? and how are you movies store atm?

What OS you planning on using it, do you need hadware raid or just a pass though with software raid or just a JBOD, etc? LSI Internal SATA/SAS 9211-8i 6Gb/s PCI-Express 2.0 RAID Controller Card, Single is decent HBA, flashed to IT you it runs great in ZFS, Windows (check you os for support), IBM M1015 is also a very popular specially for the price, cross check that it will be supported the OS you chose.

I am not sure of transcoding software just yet but I was thinking of Air Video software because they have a server app and iOS app that appear to work well together. Almost all my movies are currently MKV blurays uncompressed.

I plan on running WHS 2011 with flex raid in a norco 20hd box. I want to buy something that is fairly future proof(5 plus years) that is fast but does not draw a lot of power because my server will be on 24/7.
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