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Leon coming to Blu-Ray oct 24th! [DE]

post #1 of 68
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Leon The Professional is being released in Germany later this month!

Link to amazon.de
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B001CQFNHQ/

"The Ultimate Edition". Let's hope it's the uncut European version (Integrale). The runtime seems to indicate that is the case.
post #2 of 68
Im hoping for a US release for this one!
post #3 of 68
So did anyone pick it up?
post #4 of 68
Will this even play on US BR players?
post #5 of 68
I already have it coming and it contains both theatrical and the longer cut of the movie.....I believe it does play on U.S. players.
post #6 of 68
Oh man, I so want to import this. Both versions? Cool.
As soon as it would get here it would probably be announced for Jan. And 25+ Euros is a lot more than the $15 US I'm used to paying.

Foxy don't make us wait long for the verdict.
post #7 of 68
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Originally Posted by FoxyMulder View Post

I already have it coming and it contains both theatrical and the longer cut of the movie.....I believe it does play on U.S. players.

I'm assuming the extras will not.
post #8 of 68
I translated one of the reviews from Amazom.de

"The film is absolute top. Over it already enough one wrote. Property me came very much been pleased one Blu ray version, by the conversion was however unfortunately entäuscht. Picture: The master light the same to be as with the Steelbook DVD variant. It is a continuous noise from beginning to end. All the same whether brightens, darken, close or telephotos. The mistake with film grain is auschgeschlosse. Also the sharpness is unfortunately not better than with the DVD. Even in close-ups skin pores or Haarsträhnen are not on hp level. Has the film on a FullHD 50" Seen to plasma and unfortunately with ever larger diagonals also the errors are ever more emphasized. Owners of Beamern know the problem. The colors are naturally held. Clay/tone: Unfortunately the same as with the picture. The German hp TRACK sounds much too dull in the comparison to the English original. Also the distribution on the front boxes is too much blurred. Klanglich thus also only on middle level. Also here the comparison to the DVD 1: 1. Bonus: Also here a 1 to 1 assumption of the DVD. Who calls the DVD its own, can do without Blu ray completely. Hp is that unfortunately not. Unfortunate, would have thought cinema world the more on quality sets as e.g. with " The fox and the Mädchen".
post #9 of 68
that review doesn't say much i will look into it myself when it arrives on Monday!!
post #10 of 68
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Originally Posted by Dave Mack View Post

I translated one of the reviews from Amazom.de

"The film is absolute top. Over it already enough one wrote. Property me came very much been pleased one Blu ray version, by the conversion was however unfortunately entäuscht. Picture: The master light the same to be as with the Steelbook DVD variant. It is a continuous noise from beginning to end. All the same whether brightens, darken, close or telephotos. The mistake with film grain is auschgeschlosse. Also the sharpness is unfortunately not better than with the DVD. Even in close-ups skin pores or Haarsträhnen are not on hp level. Has the film on a FullHD 50" Seen to plasma and unfortunately with ever larger diagonals also the errors are ever more emphasized. Owners of Beamern know the problem. The colors are naturally held. Clay/tone: Unfortunately the same as with the picture. The German hp TRACK sounds much too dull in the comparison to the English original. Also the distribution on the front boxes is too much blurred. Klanglich thus also only on middle level. Also here the comparison to the DVD 1: 1. Bonus: Also here a 1 to 1 assumption of the DVD. Who calls the DVD its own, can do without Blu ray completely. Hp is that unfortunately not. Unfortunate, would have thought cinema world the more on quality sets as e.g. with " The fox and the Mädchen".

I don't quite understand the review....Are they saying the film grain is intact and they hate it or are they saying it's noise....Some reviewers mistake film grain for noise. Some reviewers also hate grain....Also i wouldn't expect absolute sharpness from this as it isn't the CGI modern type of film with the "3D pop" ( a term i hate ) It does worry me that it might not have a lot of HD detail but i guess it's hard to tell from just one review.

I guess i'll have to wait until it arrives to see for myself.
post #11 of 68
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Originally Posted by Dave Mack View Post

I translated one of the reviews from Amazom.de

"The film is absolute top. Over it already enough one wrote. Property me came very much been pleased one Blu ray version, by the conversion was however unfortunately entäuscht. Picture: The master light the same to be as with the Steelbook DVD variant. It is a continuous noise from beginning to end. All the same whether brightens, darken, close or telephotos. The mistake with film grain is auschgeschlosse. Also the sharpness is unfortunately not better than with the DVD. Even in close-ups skin pores or Haarsträhnen are not on hp level. Has the film on a FullHD 50" Seen to plasma and unfortunately with ever larger diagonals also the errors are ever more emphasized. Owners of Beamern know the problem. The colors are naturally held. Clay/tone: Unfortunately the same as with the picture. The German hp TRACK sounds much too dull in the comparison to the English original. Also the distribution on the front boxes is too much blurred. Klanglich thus also only on middle level. Also here the comparison to the DVD 1: 1. Bonus: Also here a 1 to 1 assumption of the DVD. Who calls the DVD its own, can do without Blu ray completely. Hp is that unfortunately not. Unfortunate, would have thought cinema world the more on quality sets as e.g. with " The fox and the Mädchen".

I've my copy ordered. I personally never believe anything German reviewers say, hyper-critical a-holes that have their heads up their backsides. Some of the reviews on Amazon.de are hilarious.
post #12 of 68
I hear ya, just thought it was fun to see how the auschgeschlosse is.

post #13 of 68
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Originally Posted by FoxyMulder View Post

I don't quite understand the review....Are they saying the film grain is intact and they hate it or are they saying it's noise.... Some reviewers mistake film grain for noise.

This one reviewer claims that it's noise and denies the possibility that he confuses it with grain.

FWIW, I don't have the disc myself, but some users in a German forum say that the picture is good considering the age of the movie, but the audio lacks dynamic range and/or LFE and sounds a bit compressed compared to the DVD.
post #14 of 68
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Property me came very much been pleased one Blu ray version, by the conversion was however unfortunately entäuscht. Picture: The master light the same to be as with the Steelbook DVD variant. It is a continuous noise from beginning to end. All the same whether brightens, darken, close or telephotos. The mistake with film grain is auschgeschlosse. Also the sharpness is unfortunately not better than with the DVD. Even in close-ups skin pores or Haarsträhnen are not on

Not poking fun of how the words sound. It's just that the translation reminded me of that bit they do on Conan O'Brien with the Euro guy that always has a new lollipop of some sort.
post #15 of 68
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Originally Posted by FoxyMulder View Post

I already have it coming and it contains both theatrical and the longer cut of the movie.....I believe it does play on U.S. players.

Here ye be warned: This disc did not play on my US PS3. All I get is the following: "Mismatch between disc and player region codes. See disc packaging for details". Whoever's telling folk that this plays on Region A players doesn't know their arse from their elbow (I don't mean you Foxy, but I know of one retailer that's saying this will work on US machines).

As for the reviews, they're spot on (apart from the numpty on amazon ).

The AVC encode is very nice, with a light layer of grain throughout and some moments of staggeringly crisp fine detail. They have upped the contrast massively in comparison to the Extended R1 DVD though, and white highlights tend to blow out very easily.

The audio is just as described above. The action scenes lack the 'oomph' that comes as standard these days, although the music sounds superb. There's one shot where Stansfield walks into frame and an ominously low note kicked in that had my sub begging for mercy.
post #16 of 68
Thanks for the update on the PS3...
post #17 of 68
Thanks for the comments, Geoff. Amazon.de dispatched my copy today, so looking forward to getting it next week. No way was I paying dvdlimited's price. Dear God, between this and From Dusk Till Dawn, if Highlander hadn't been postponed, I'd have practically the majority of my favorite movies in HD. SWOON!!
post #18 of 68
I can post a comparison to the R1 Superbit dvd when I get the chance.
post #19 of 68
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Originally Posted by Geoff D View Post

Here ye be warned: This disc did not play on my US PS3. All I get is the following: "Mismatch between disc and player region codes. See disc packaging for details". Whoever's telling folk that this plays on Region A players doesn't know their arse from their elbow (I don't mean you Foxy, but I know of one retailer that's saying this will work on US machines).

As for the reviews, they're spot on (apart from the numpty on amazon ).

The AVC encode is very nice, with a light layer of grain throughout and some moments of staggeringly crisp fine detail. They have upped the contrast massively in comparison to the Extended R1 DVD though, and white highlights tend to blow out very easily.

The audio is just as described above. The action scenes lack the 'oomph' that comes as standard these days, although the music sounds superb. There's one shot where Stansfield walks into frame and an ominously low note kicked in that had my sub begging for mercy.

Well gee i was under the impression it worked on U.S. Playstations....I only have a U.S. player so i guess i had better contact them and try and cancel the order....What a disappointment this is.

I used to own the Japanese dts edition and the bass during the opening moments was very good and deep....I sold that on Ebay....Oh groan at this.
post #20 of 68
Sounds like a pretty poor release judging by the reviews, no doubt from the same old master that was used previously. Shame.
post #21 of 68
R1 NTSC Superbit vs German BD (locked to region B)

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Yep the contrast is extremely blown out, detail upgrade is worth it though. I can't find the hard drive the HDTV cap(s) were on, but I don't remember them looking like the BD color/contrast wise, probably derived from the same master as the DVD. I wonder if the transfer for the German Blu-ray is completely new.
post #22 of 68
If the contrast is blown out then its not worth it ( i think ) They did the same with the last release of Ghostbusters and RoboCop....It does not make for a pleasant viewing experience when the contrast gets blown out like that. ( at least when viewing on a projection system )
post #23 of 68
I'm assuming this is a BD-50?
post #24 of 68
How depressing... this is probably one of my favorite films. It really does change the feeling of the movie. If it ends up like that stateside... I won't be purchasing.
post #25 of 68
Sharpness and detail is not bad, and much better than I expected, but the contrast boosting is disappointing. Hopefully Sony will be able to do a better job.
post #26 of 68
The contrast is extremely hot, yet it doesn't really make the image 'pop' in this case. As with most anamorphic shows, the image is quite flat and no amount of tweaking can resolve that issue.

It's mystifying why the contrast has been boosted to near nuclear levels, but the level of detail in some scenes had me mesmerised. Natalie Portman's cute little unibrow had never seen the light of day on home video...until now.
post #27 of 68
The pictures are not showing up for me, I take it its a no go
post #28 of 68
Some more screen captures and thoughts of my own:

http://whiggles.landofwhimsy.com/arc...pressions.html

I agree with Eric - despite the nasty contrast boosting, it's well worth the upgrade if you can play Region B discs. Every previous DVD release I've seen has been awful, and finally with this BD we're approaching a level of acceptability.
post #29 of 68
This will arrive in our country soon enough. Just wait it out, folks. No hurry.
post #30 of 68
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Originally Posted by dvdmike007 View Post

The pictures are not showing up for me, I take it its a no go

Pic host is down. Does this from time to time, hopefully it will go back up.
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