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Dashing archaeologist comes out on Monday 10th November and goes in pursuit of the crystal skull another one of those mystical relics that offers great powers to who possesses it. This film has already had I and many others stinging there fangs into it and blame goes for the UFO ending that would have been better off in an X-File film. I guess when thinking about it does seem okay, wtf no I'm only in for this Indy for the sound I'm guessing its going to be so weak without Sean Connery, I wouldn't blame him for pulling out I guess he did the right thing, because the online dodgy pyrite videos are all over the place for all to see and report to the FBI or FACT.

Anyway it's a two disc DVD set that ASDA will be doing for £14.73 I'm sure the image will be high specs for DVD. If I get set-up with region 1 before then thou that's looking slim at the moment then I'll go for the region 1 DVD.
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They can sell it for 99p and i STILL wouldn't buy this bloated overlong piece of garbage.....What has happened to Spielberg...He used to be such a talented film maker with these type of movies...I just get the sneaky suspicion that Mr George Lucas blackmailed him into doing this film....He has something on him otherwise why go with such a lame script when they had fabulous scripts such as the one written by Frank "The Shawshank Redemption" Darabont.

I really can't say any more....This film should have been great but it's just a wasted opportunity and Harrison Ford tries his hardest but the script and over indulgent editing keep pulling him down....I thought The Lost World was the worst sequel Spielberg has made but this easily steals that crown.

Oh what might have been but for Lucas insisting this script was the one to go with...Even a master like Spielberg can't do anything with it and John Williams took one look at this mess and couldn't come up with a decent film score....Don't blame him.

Indy 5 ? No thanks unless someone can push a decent script past Lucas...Which is unlikely.
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That is worthy film powerfully told and characters that I can both like and dislike like the warden he wasn’t a nice guy at all. “The Shawshank Redemption” I’d have to look for decent copy of this because there have been odd versions cropping up on DVD and I’d like good W/S version with Dolby 5.1 without centre dialogue slyly crossing over to left and right like I have noticed with the First Blood and Rambo II.

This was realised around the time of Dolby digital (1994) 142 minute running time that will fly by with the good story telling rather than something that feels like Indy dragging a bunch of skeletons in bag behind him. The Stephen King short story from reading the imdb “Rita Hayworth and Shawshank Redemption” and The Green Mile another worthy film I have that one, wow, wow, wow.

Yes I couldn’t agree more that Spielberg was bribed into doing this, [clap hands smack, sigh] oh, well there are the classics from yesteryear and I’d soon relive the 1970’ and 80’s and early 90’s very early over again because that’s when he was at his best form.

I mean this guy doesn’t drink smoke do drugs or maybe Lucas spiked his drink with some of that Lucas cow milk?
[Steven feeling giddy and dizzy] (Wow George I see two of you what do you what my friend).
(I need another film Steven, to milk the fans with).
(We can call it) [George rubbing his hands] Indiana Jones and the crystal err, crystal err [George frustratingly rubbing hands] (err, oh, lets just make it Steven the fan will like it).


These two guys have enough money to practically throw on the cabin retreat log fire for a month.

[George enters Stevens’s lodge] (Hi Steven, got some money here to keeps us both cosy for a month or two). [Steven peeks inside the box] (Wow George, looks like part of this years gross from Indiana Jones wow my friend $10 million dollars should keep us both warm! Here let me help you burn some of it, I’m feeling a little nippy tonight).
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They can sell it for 99p and i STILL wouldn't buy this bloated overlong piece of garbage.....
Indy 5 ? No thanks unless someone can push a decent script past Lucas...Which is unlikely.

tell it! Worst big blockbuster in years!
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Only five days to go now! This better be everything it’s promised to be otherwise it can sit on the DVD shelve along with CloverPants! It better have crazy dialogue panning as well!
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Brought this morning from ASDA £7.98 now that's ASDA price!

I guess they feel this might sale like hotcakes and the bluray no was paying attention to the format, hmmm, I wonder why? Maybe because its £18.00 pounds and why pay for small difference in picture and sound quality, why it makes no sense?

Well the amplifiers are warmed up and I'll run a Dolby sound check to make sure all the levels are correct run the film though I mean DVD and see what its like. I wonder if it will get the (mega pants) rating?
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Well I’ve seen it I’ve heard it and I’ve felt it! It wasn’t too bad I’d just give it (pants) it had its good moment’s silly moments.

Well it’s onto the science of (Indiana Jones) with frequency waterfalls coming around this evening.

117 minutes is whale of time to find the best sounding Indy moments.

Oh, “Amazing Life“ the new THX introduction trailer was wow more on that later, and lots, lots more!
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Oh what might have been but for Lucas insisting this script was the one to go with...Even a master like Spielberg can't do anything with it and John Williams took one look at this mess and couldn't come up with a decent film score....Don't blame him.

But it's been a long time since he hasn't come up with something decent unfortunately. Catch Me If You Can was great, but recently? it's more like he's only rehashing his own clichés.
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But it's been a long time since he hasn't come up with something decent unfortunately. Catch Me If You Can was great, but recently? it's more like he's only rehashing his own clichés.

I was noticing this with the fist-fight between Indy and Russian "cliché" I was thinking, hmmm, the flying-wing sequence and it, larked the dynamic bloody brutal punch that Raiders of Lost Ark had as well as score which didn't seem to fit too well. I guess Indy is showing his age, he is still a crafty ole devil shaking his hand at the Russian no more LOL as he crawls off then grabs hold a tree branch than whacks it straight onto the Russians head.

And please those ants made my skin crawl that was over the top if had seen this film at the age of 14, I would have freaked out! They crawled down into his mouth, Arrrghhh YUCK! I hate ants!

Yes I have fear I have phobia about the little buggers spiders also!
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But it's been a long time since he hasn't come up with something decent unfortunately. Catch Me If You Can was great, but recently? it's more like he's only rehashing his own clichés.

IN J Williams' defense, as to his more recent scoring work--primarily the SW prequels--all 3 of those had pretty great new pieces of music (DUEL OF THE FATES from MENACE, ACROSS THE STARS[?], the "love theme" from CLONES & BATTLE OF THE HEROES from SITH). But the recyling of previous SW themes/music cues were done under orders from Lucas, to further use sound/music to "connect the dots".

IMO, the end theme from SITH, which uses bits of OT themes during the end montage, is actually pretty awesome, if not relatively unoriginal.
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IN J Williams' defense, as to his more recent scoring work--primarily the SW prequels--all 3 of those had pretty great new pieces of music (DUEL OF THE FATES from MENACE, ACROSS THE STARS[?], the "love theme" from CLONES & BATTLE OF THE HEROES from SITH). But the recyling of previous SW themes/music cues were done under orders from Lucas, to further use sound/music to "connect the dots".

You're probably right. But I think his style has become, dare I say, a little "old-fashioned". That's why his usual orchestral soup suddenly becoming jazz in Catch Me If You Can was welcome and refreshing. But what he did in Minority Report and War Of The Worlds didn't fit well imo. He still has the same genius touch when it comes to orchestration but the music is often way too busy for what we see on screen. Anyway, that's just my opinion. But yes, Duel Of The Fates is one hell of a brilliant theme.
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I’m still doing screen captures LOL of the film while watching the 2 DVD disc on the main DVD player.

I wonder if, anyone has noticed the score seems to be playing at low volume level over most of the sound effects.

Once I’m done with this thread which won’t be until the very, very late hours of tomorrow morning, I’m going to do an A B C & D analysis of the score level. Its like level of thrill has been reduce or it might be my imagination playing on me?

One thing that was different is the opening no score I can see why with what is filmed and score wouldn’t fit it, so contemporary rock 'n roll from the era (You ain't nothin' but a hound dog)

Has anyway one noticed the famous (Wilhelm scream) that is used during car and motorbike chase which pops up in the school library?
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One thing that I noticed and I'm not sure if this is, in tensional was the sword fight sequence in the jungle on moving vehicles!? The jungle would have dense sound there are no walls surrounding it and what in the blazes is echo doing in this scene? I watching the post production extras on the DVD sound designer academy award winner Ben Burtt is talking about the type of swords and his excitement about the props.

He's recording them inside a very large hall and the echo that follows behind them seems to be the same as heard in the film. Unbelievable I mean that is not realistic sound recoding because it sounded so fake even thou its real sound it should have been recorded in area where there are lots of trees to make it dense and dry not sparkle with echo LOL not in jungle.
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Well having my evening microwave meal right now, feed the cat about 2 hours ago and its still hungry?

The trailers presented on disc 2 are in full six-track Dolby stereo digital, rather than Dolby stereo 4:2:4 on the start of Cloverfield and Iron Man, called (coming soon to DVD).

(Trailer 3) has good strong dialogue narration of Ford’s voice. The trailer itself is louder than the film? I thought that mixers where cutting-back on loud trailers has there’s been so much complying about over the years. Well I do have what is called a volume control and a little artistic control and no would notice the difference if, you were around hare. I don’t have anything against loudness (sheer bloody loudness) yes I do because I want to listen to the film not come out scream with bloody dripping out of my ears.

Frigging screen captures sure takes a long time I’ve at for nearly 3 hours I think now? That’s longer than the films running time LOL.

Well finished my meal and its back work, yummy mince beef you know that is (cow) not chicken LOL with vegetables and sliced “potatoes” did I spell potatoes correctly?
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I’ll start off with “Amazing Life” (THX introduction trailer) that I first heard at the Empire Leicester Square in THX on Friday August 1st The X-Files I want to Believe and it was quite stunning sat front and centre it dwarfed around with sonic pure deep pulse that reached quite high on the SPL db metre.

I was quite surprised to see it on the start of Indian Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull it just shock the room door not quite off its hinges just vibrating, LOL looks like I’ve got some diy to sort out.

The surrounds with centre back active enveloped all-around with wonderful harmony.

LFE.1, shuddered the sofa, I was tempted to increasing the level but I didn’t want to overcook it, too many chefs spoil the broth.

More to come…I’m using chapters 1 and 2 to motivate me because of the calm, sound I’m starting to really like this now. LOL

Thinking about it £7.98p is cheaper than going to the cinema I mean the amount of times, I get to listen over and over to favourite part would mean you’d have to pay again to see it.



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Here’s one many dramatic scenes the what ever you call it? I’ll just call it the (rocket car sled) looks like trilling ride, chapter 3, 16 minutes 07 seconds, sounds cool as it passes by a herd of chipmunks, along the fronts LCR while thundering over the valley on the surrounds and then passing around on the surrounds.

The LFE.1 propels the rocket sled ride until finally coming to full stop thank god!

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Indy escapes from one of the most preposterous cliff-hangers a nuclear bomb explosion on a test site, inside a refrigerator LOL impossible near to impossible but damn funny.

Yeah the whole room goes nuclear for less than a minute. I’m still glowing from the sound pressure of it.



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JBL,

You've put a lot of time and effort into the last few posts.

Good Job!
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JBL,

You've put a lot of time and effort into the last few posts.

Good Job!

Thanks. Well its coming up to 4.05m UK wintertime and I’ve been at this since 12.04pm yesterday so yes I’ve been at it for 16 hours and I still have at least half a dozen to go and my eyes are like saucers.

Anyway I’m getting some kip now otherwise I won’t be able to think clearly. I’ve been up since 8.30am. and i've only had 4 hours sleep since yesterday.
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Here are screen captures of the opening of the film.



















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Much, much more to come













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Hey jbl, can you post some waterfalls to...

mutt comes screen with his pike scene

Its dead end scene

interrogation with skull scene

cover your ears scene

i vant to know everything scene.

thanks.
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Hey jbl, can you post some waterfalls to...

mutt comes screen with his pike scene

Its dead end scene

interrogation with skull scene

cover your ears scene

i vant to know everything scene.

thanks.

I'm afraid I haven't done waterfall frequency graphs of those scene nor will I be doing anymore this week. I spent most of my time, yesterday doing at least 17 frequency waterfalls 17.

I've only posted so far 5 of them so there is at least another 9 to come once I've finished the editing of the screen captures which in total is 250 screen captures! So yes I've been quite hard at it, I'm afraid you'll have to ask someone els, and chances are they don't do individual frequency graphs of LCRS LFE.1 on this site.

You'll have to wait don't worry the film isn't going to runaway.

I can say the moment when Mutt enters on the bike at the train station has deep roar to it, kinder like Terminator 2.

I'll cover your ears had plenty of low end as well the interrogation scene with Col. Dr. Irina Spalko facing the skull at Indy had slow pulse vibration, don't worry this film has more than plenty of low end to go around on it.
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Hear is a very familiar sound effect!

Star Wars Episode IV: The Empire Strikes Back (1980) chapter 16, 31 minutes 23 seconds Luke Skywalker uses his lightsaber to cut a hole into the imperial AT-AT walker that is heard on screen left and partly on centre channel. I like this moment from the film classic on how they executed the shot very damn clever. The John Williams score belts it out with horns and strings with perfection.








Star Wars episode 1: The Phantom Menace (1999) chapter 39, 107 minutes 34 seconds the dual between Obi wan Qui-Gon and Darth Maul dual of the fates has Darth Maul using the force to fling an object across the hanger bay into the control door mechanism is heard on screen right and partly in the centre or half pan.







Indian Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (2008) chapter, 1 7 minutes 2 seconds Col. Dr. Irina Spalko instructs one her Russian goons to use explosive to override the hanger door mechanism that is heard on screen right and partly on centre channel, if your using DCX2496 ware a little delay on the centre channel helps for half paned sounds.



I guess this sound effect is second to the (Wilhelm scream) because if you listen very hard you'll hear the sound effect in Forest Gump during the ambush just after the rain stops! mortars are dropping everywhere with Forest running out of the ht zone you'll hear the Skywalker lightsaber cutting effect not sure of the name of this sound effect but (Skywalker lightsaber cutting effect) will do fine.

Here's a (Wilhelm scream) effect that comes in school library during the motorbike and car chase chapter 5, 34 minutes 51 seconds.



Wilhelm scream
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Ok, i wait, No horry. Thanks.

btw, priceless screencap that mutt and indy with bike. Mutt just looks there one of those chipmunks.lol
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Ok, i wait, No horry. Thanks.

btw, priceless screencap that mutt and indy with bike. Mutt just looks there one of those chipmunks.lol

LOL oh, I never noticed that until you pointed it out LOL.
I'm running the film at the moment to motivate, me too finishing the rest of the frequency graphs, coming soon tonight three-times it drops. I like chapters (1 though 2 and 3).



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The waterfall sequence “three times it drops” now that is waterfall!




“Go get your own”. Coming in jiffy!
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For Indy and the others to get down in to chamber below they must release sand that will open gateway into the next level that drops down quite a bit, with steps that are slowly retracting into the walls and pit of rocky spikes at the bottom.



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Oh, I just noticed as I haven’t paid any attention to the display on the AVR front panel that Indiana Jones4 is (Dilanormoffset -2db). Yeah I’m still playing the film like chapter 3 repeat mode (A) 15 minutes 15 seconds till chapter 4.
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Been taking a look at the, Indian Jones Raiders.Net site on the budget costs for each film.


Raiders of the Lost Ark
Production Dates:
• Pre-production:
April 1980 - June 1980
• Principal photography:
Start: 23 June 1980
End: September 1980
• Release date:
12 June 1981 (USA)
Business:
• Budget:
$18,000,000 (estimated)
• Gross:
$242,374,454 (USA)
$384,140,454 (Worldwide)

Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
Production Dates:
• Principal photography:
Start: 18 April 1983
End: 8 September 1983
• Release date:
23 May 1984 (USA)
Business:
• Budget:
$28,000,000 (estimated) • Gross:
$179,870,271 (USA)
$333,000,000 (Worldwide)

Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
Production Dates:
• Principal photography:
Start: 16 May 1988
End: August 1988
• Release date:
24 May 1989 (USA)
Business:
• Budget:
$48,000,000 (estimated)
• Gross:
$197,171,806 (USA)
$494,800,000 (Worldwide)

Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
Production Dates:
• Principal photography:
Start: June 18, 2007
End: October 11, 2007
• Release date:
May 22, 2008 (Worldwide)
Business:
• Budget:
$185,000,000 (estimated)
• Gross:
still counting...


What ever happened to low budget and making back a profitable investment still counting what does that mean? $185,000,000 (estimated) that is like 3 ½ more than 1989 budget I think its daft because all they like to gamble on who’s got the silly high budget cost, who cares anymore, sure glad it isn’t my money.
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