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post #1711 of 2289
That was a pretty awkward birthday dinner.
And Walt didn't do the best job of calming Skylar down by playing the "then what will you do?" game. He should at least use some BS to put her at ease, because she is ticking away faster than his new watch.
post #1712 of 2289
I also think that the woman put the tracker in there to get out... she's scared senseless (Skyler like), so the order was to kill her right?

We were screaming at home for Sky to go in the pool and drown.. I was the one that said it first: "she's going in".

Yeah was a lame birthday party, 2 roasts from Costco/Sams and microwaved heated.. meh..
post #1713 of 2289
Might as well have been a narrator @ the beginning of the ep stating, "This episode of 'Breaking Bad' brought to you by your local Chrysler-Dodge dealership", as they headed to the first commercial break, it just felt that blatant to me. Rest of the ep was fine though IMO.
post #1714 of 2289
Does it bother anyone else that all that transpired in the series was supposed to have happened in the space of one year? Particularly Hank's injury and his recovery?
post #1715 of 2289
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Originally Posted by Shaded Dogfood View Post

Does it bother anyone else that all that transpired in the series was supposed to have happened in the space of one year? Particularly Hank's injury and his recovery?

+1, its a little miraculous. The real time of 3 years for his recovery is more believable.
post #1716 of 2289
LOL at the Chrysler sponsor ship, like "My now extinct Pontiac Aztec is worth $50 while these Dodge's are way cooler" (IMO that Aztec in particular should be worth $50K for fans of the show)


I'm glad that Walt wore the Heisenberg hat most of the episode..
post #1717 of 2289
So now we know the first few minutes of the season opener was a year ahead cause Hank had hair and was celebrating his 52 birthday.
Last night he was 51. Wonder why he needed to buy that very big gun since "everything will be fine now". smile.gif
post #1718 of 2289
I think Walt seized to exist now.. it's now Heisenberg 100% since he found the hat... only exception maybe is he's still wearing those tighty whities..
post #1719 of 2289
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Will Hank last longer in this new job than he did in the last promotion? Guess we'll have to wait and see.
Was surprised that Jesse didn't want to look at some other barrels for the tracker. Just when I thought he was getting a lot smarter. Maybe the 14 hr drive got to him.

Not to nit-pick but Jesse flew there and was going to transport the barrel back (distance was mentionned as 900 miles) in a rented cargo van. Not impossible that the hassle of flying these days had a dulling effect, of course.
post #1720 of 2289
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Originally Posted by Shaded Dogfood View Post

Does it bother anyone else that all that transpired in the series was supposed to have happened in the space of one year? Particularly Hank's injury and his recovery?

A year is 365 days, and as I've seen in the show '24' a lot can happen in one day. So it's not out of the question that Hank could be back to 90% in a year.
Although his injury actually happened less than a year ago in the show.......but yeah, a lot of stuff has gone down in that year.eek.gif

I don't blame Jesse for not looking at the other barrels for a tracker. She said that one was the only one cleared from inventory, at the time he didn't really have reason to doubt her.
But I guess calling Mike and asking how to proceed would of been a better move. Then again, Mike might of told him to kill her and take the barrels.
post #1721 of 2289
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Originally Posted by jakestir View Post

Then again, Mike might of told him to kill her and take the barrels.

Leave Kill the gun girl, take the cannoli barrel.
post #1722 of 2289
Another terrific episode. I was reminded why dizzy, can't-keep-her-mouth-shut, Marie makes me CRAZY. I don't know why she betrayed Walt's secret about Skyler to Hank but none of the reasons that come to mind are flattering.

Walt and Mike are on a collision course, the previews, however, showed Lydia still very much involved with obtaining a precursor supply. How long that will keep Walt and Mike away from each other's throats remains to be seen.

Skyler has a Mexican standoff with her emotions between her desire to conceal her crimes from the authorities and wanting to remove herself and her children from Walt's self destructive lawlessness. It seems to me that Walt's efforts to quickly recoup the $600,000 he lost by immediately going back into the meth business for himself has made him reckless. I think I can guarantee that if Gus had been in Walt's position he would have agreed that killing Lydia made a lot more sense than staying in business with her did. Skyler sees Walt's recklessness and associated ruthlessness as a threat and she couldn't be more right.
post #1723 of 2289
Mike knew the DEA was coming....how? I think the DEA has a mole.

It goes back to when Hank got shot...somebody warned him..why?
post #1724 of 2289
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Originally Posted by Steve S View Post

Not to nit-pick but Jesse flew there and was going to transport the barrel back (distance was mentionned as 900 miles) in a rented cargo van. Not impossible that the hassle of flying these days had a dulling effect, of course.

Guess I missed the flying in part. redface.gif
post #1725 of 2289
Gus knew about the twins going after Hank (he told uncle Salamanca that)

And that call from Mike to Lydia came a minute before the DEA stepped in.. he has a guy in Madrigal branch looking for that.. if he had a DEA mole he woulda called Lydia way earlier..
post #1726 of 2289
Walt's going to have to stop shaving his head soon.

Good to see Marie hasn't given up on the color purple yet.

There's been a lot of discussion about Walt turning into Scarface. Yes he is willing to kill and deals in drugs but he doesn't seem to have the street smarts or criminal knowledge, contacts, informants, distribution networks, bodyguards, real estate, etc associated with someone at the top of a criminal empire. It's not like he's keeping a low profile by choice. That's the best profile he's got. He seems to have been extremely lucky at avoiding being killed himself. He has very little money and a ragtag team left over from Gus's empire that answer to Mike. If Mike had gotten out of Dodge (product placement again wink.gif )where would Walt be? He didn't build much of anything and is cooking medium size batches of meth out of tented houses with money fronted by Jesse. I think he still has a ways to go and not much time left to get there. Walt's menacing stare is not as powerful as he thinks it is.
post #1727 of 2289
I'm sure that when Skyler went in the pool for a self baptism, many viewers said, well you know.... If Skyler doesn't give Ted the money, the boys aren't sent over and maybe we don't see the reincarnation of "Heisenberg" so quickly, or at all. The sheer brilliance of this show, ALL of the actors, Vince Gilligan, Michelle Maclaren, and the staff is just outstanding.... I can't wait every week to see it, and I always want more when it's over....
post #1728 of 2289
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Originally Posted by DrLar View Post

Gus knew about the twins going after Hank (he told uncle Salamanca that)
And that call from Mike to Lydia came a minute before the DEA stepped in.. he has a guy in Madrigal branch looking for that.. if he had a DEA mole he woulda called Lydia way earlier..

Ok I'll buy the Mike / Lydia explaination - yet still believe its a DEA mole.

Why would Gus warn Hank? I think it was the DEA mole.
post #1729 of 2289
FWIW, I saw a guy on the street today wearing an obvious Heisenberg hat.
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Why would Gus warn Hank?

Pretty simple really: because killing a DEA agent brings heat on Gus' operation at a time when he's fighting the cartel. Can't fight 2 wars at the same time.
post #1730 of 2289
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Originally Posted by KOA View Post

Walt's going to have to stop shaving his head soon.
Good to see Marie hasn't given up on the color purple yet.
There's been a lot of discussion about Walt turning into Scarface. Yes he is willing to kill and deals in drugs but he doesn't seem to have the street smarts or criminal knowledge, contacts, informants, distribution networks, bodyguards, real estate, etc associated with someone at the top of a criminal empire. It's not like he's keeping a low profile by choice. That's the best profile he's got. He seems to have been extremely lucky at avoiding being killed himself. He has very little money and a ragtag team left over from Gus's empire that answer to Mike. If Mike had gotten out of Dodge (product placement again wink.gif )where would Walt be? He didn't build much of anything and is cooking medium size batches of meth out of tented houses with money fronted by Jesse. I think he still has a ways to go and not much time left to get there. Walt's menacing stare is not as powerful as he thinks it is.
It's more about Walt paralleling the character of Scarface than his empire. Scarface's street smarts and business savvy carried him to the top, but then his ego proved to be his downfall. He pushed away those that loved him and ignored the warning signals that led to his death. Walt is proceeding along a very similar course, using his instincts and science background to rise to power in the SW meth trade. The pinnacle of that was killing Gus and filling the vacuum with his new operation. But look at how he reacted to his surprise party at 50 versus how he anticipated it at 51. He thinks he's hot sh** now and deserves praise for his genius, challenging Mike, and vaguely or openly threatening Jesse and Skyler.

In a way, Walt's descent is actually a little more sinister than Scarface's. I always attributed Scarface's fall primarily to cocaine addiction. Walt can't blame his behavior on any drugs.
post #1731 of 2289
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

FWIW, I saw a guy on the street today wearing an obvious Heisenberg hat.
Pretty simple really: because killing a DEA agent brings heat on Gus' operation at a time when he's fighting the cartel. Can't fight 2 wars at the same time.

Gus hated Hector and the Cousins were Hector's last kin and he mentored and cared for them deeply. Gus took extreme pleasure in causing Hector pain. So I'm sure Gus would much rather see Hank come out alive from the confrontation than the twins. It was personal for Gus.
post #1732 of 2289
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Originally Posted by Shaded Dogfood View Post

Does it bother anyone else that all that transpired in the series was supposed to have happened in the space of one year? Particularly Hank's injury and his recovery?
That blew me away. One reason is because I've watched the show for years. The other is that you really do not see much in the show that gives you much of an indication of the passage of time except things on the order of a few days here and there. Hank's injury and recovery is one thing that makes 1 year seem not quite right.

larry
post #1733 of 2289
I'd love to see a time-line of events and how long some things lasted.
Like how long was Jesse in rehab after his girlfriend died?
How long from Walt being diagnosed to being cancer free?
How long did Skylar work for Ted?

Maybe some fan site has something like that.
post #1734 of 2289
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Originally Posted by gwsat View Post

It seems to me that Walt's efforts to quickly recoup the $600,000 he lost by immediately going back into the meth business for himself has made him reckless. I think I can guarantee that if Gus had been in Walt's position he would have agreed that killing Lydia made a lot more sense than staying in business with her did. Skyler sees Walt's recklessness and associated ruthlessness as a threat and she couldn't be more right.
Is Walt being reckless, or should we call him 'driven'?
Seems like he's leaving the precursor supply issue up to Mike- all he said is "nothing stops this train". Mike wants to lay low for a bit, Walt wants to push on- but he didn't say kill Lydia, grab the barrel, etc... To me it seems like he's still leaving the operational details up to Mike, he just wants the precursor.

As to why Jesse didn't make a phone call to Mike when they found the tracker on the barrel- guess that's just story development to setup a confrontation between Mike and Lydia down the road? Any reasonable person would have called their supervisor/superior in that situation.
post #1735 of 2289
Lets not forget that Walt still has the cancer hammer poised over his head. He knows his time is limited.
post #1736 of 2289
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

Lets not forget that Walt still has the cancer hammer poised over his head. He knows his time is limited.
And you could tell that comment about 'waiting for the cancer to return' by Skylar really bothered Walt.... it was brutal.
post #1737 of 2289
Yes, I think perhaps Walt should plan to be making his own meals from now on, and be alert for containers of rat poison appearing in the kitchen.

Seriously though, it would be interesting to see how far down into the dark side they can take Skyler's character. She could flip from being scared to being vicious pretty easy. She's too far into this to drop a dime on him, but that doesn't mean she wouldn't do it in a moment of anger.
post #1738 of 2289
Or imagine Skyler puts poison in Walt's bacon and, like it happened last episode they exchange bacon pieces to complete the "1", then Jr. eating it...

I don't think Skyler will risk poisoning Jr.
post #1739 of 2289
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Originally Posted by DrLar View Post

Or imagine Skyler puts poison in Walt's bacon and, like it happened last episode they exchange bacon pieces to complete the "1", then Jr. eating it...
I don't think Skyler will risk poisoning Jr.

Yes but she got him out of the house, didn't she? I'm thinking she may have had multiple reasons for doing that. I don't see her continuing to live with Walt in any case, she's going to come up with something. Or he will just decide to move out on his own. Or she will make his life so miserable he has to. What she may really be "waiting for" is enough cash to enable her to take action. Walt better be smart enough not to give her enough to actually take off.
post #1740 of 2289
I personally think Skylar's days are numbered. Hope I'm wrong, but...
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