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post #1801 of 4069
What about the seals on the tanker car? They're not going to be the same ones that were on it when it was originally loaded.
post #1802 of 4069
I'm sure Lydia handed them some with same serial number and stuff (since they are printed on the manifest)
post #1803 of 4069
If they're going to get caught hijacking the tanker car it's probably not going to be because of some minute detail they overlooked given the fact how everything worked to almost perfection down to the split second. It is TV.

larry
Edited by PooperScooper - 8/17/12 at 7:05am
post #1804 of 4069
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Originally Posted by DrLar View Post

I'm sure Lydia handed them some with same serial number and stuff (since they are printed on the manifest)
That would be the only answer really as once those seals are broken off there's no repairing them to be reused again. It just seemed the seal replacement was a bit random to me is all, I didn't see them check that the seal they took off matched the the one they used to replacement it with.
post #1805 of 4069
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Originally Posted by PooperScooper View Post

If they're going to get caught hijacking the tanker car it's probably not going to be because of some minute detail they overlooked given that fact they how everything worked to almost perfection down to the split second. It is TV.
larry
True, it's just something I see overlooked in many TV shows and films. Having spent over 25 years in the transportation business it's just one of those things that when I see no heed paid to the seal number it annoys me a bit. And yeah, it is just TV.smile.gif
post #1806 of 4069
it feels to me like instead of wrapping up, the show is expanding even further this season...and they're even introducing new major characters such as Lydia and Todd...with only 11 episodes remaining I don't see how they can wrap everything up...plus Jesse still needs to findout that Walt poisoned Brock, killed Jane, Hank needs to put all the pieces together etc...I see them increasing the final 8 episodes next summer to something like 12
post #1807 of 4069
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Originally Posted by keenan View Post

That would be the only answer really as once those seals are broken off there's no repairing them to be reused again. It just seemed the seal replacement was a bit random to me is all, I didn't see them check that the seal they took off matched the the one they used to replacement it with.

I froze the screen and I could see the serial number on the seal that they took off, when they put the replacements back on I couldn't see the serial, the view was from the other side that said "secured", maybe intended like this to keep us guessing..


post #1808 of 4069
Interesting recap of "Dead Freight" at Vulture.

Breaking Bad Recap: Throw Plausibility From the Train

The author makes some pretty good points.

The site is also interviewing "Todd" about the episode on Weds. "Ask Breaking Bad’s Jesse Plemons Anything".
post #1809 of 4069
the implausible parts of the train heist to me were the fact that the 2 engineers would not even suspect something fishy was going on after a truck just happens to stall directly in the middle of a train track?...their suspicions should have been really high as soon as they stepped off the train...I would have immediately thought robbery...and then they both step off and don't even look back at the train?...Todd was perched atop the car and should have easily been spotted, especially as they were pulling out
post #1810 of 4069
Or as Coach on FNL called him...Lance..
post #1811 of 4069
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Originally Posted by keenan View Post

Interesting recap of "Dead Freight" at Vulture.
Breaking Bad Recap: Throw Plausibility From the Train
The author makes some pretty good points.
The site is also interviewing "Todd" about the episode on Weds. "Ask Breaking Bad’s Jesse Plemons Anything".

I love the comments against the article author, I fully agree with them... this was one of the best episodes ever on TV and the author calling it almost the worst..
post #1812 of 4069
Breaking Bad easily cleared the hurdle for plausibility in this episode. I remember the first time I watched this episode, and how stunned I was when it was over.

The last time I was this excited about a series and saved the episodes and debated the details online was a little show called Lost. The difference is that Breaking Bad is still getting better and better, and Lost had already peaked and was clearly declining.
post #1813 of 4069
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Originally Posted by TitusTroy View Post

the implausible parts of the train heist to me were the fact that the 2 engineers would not even suspect something fishy was going on after a truck just happens to stall directly in the middle of a train track?...their suspicions should have been really high as soon as they stepped off the train...I would have immediately thought robbery...and then they both step off and don't even look back at the train?...Todd was perched atop the car and should have easily been spotted, especially as they were pulling out


I would have thought oddly of the truck breaking down where it did but not of my train being robbed assuming there's nothing on it a normal person would want. Plus it was just one truck driver not a gang. If I'm not mistaken they did look back before they met the driver. I do agree that Todd might have easily been spotted.

If I was looking for plausibility I wouldn't watch the show and many others for that matter.
post #1814 of 4069
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Originally Posted by TitusTroy View Post

it feels to me like instead of wrapping up, the show is expanding even further this season...and they're even introducing new major characters such as Lydia and Todd...with only 11 episodes remaining I don't see how they can wrap everything up...plus Jesse still needs to findout that Walt poisoned Brock, killed Jane, Hank needs to put all the pieces together etc...I see them increasing the final 8 episodes next summer to something like 12

I think its a stretch to say Lydia and Todd are major characters.   Killing off Gus Fring left a large hole to fill  ... every show needs supporting characters to move the story along.    At Walt's current pace, I'm starting to wonder how he can last 11 more episodes.    Why does Jesse need to find out anything?   Why does Hank need to solve the case?   There are many ways that those two things could play out in the course of a single episode, or perhaps never at all.    

post #1815 of 4069
I've seen too many vids of cars/trucks breaking down on top of the train tracks (usually they get totalled), only unbelievable thing in this episode is the train coming to a full stop on only 800ft distance, and remember the conductor started hitting the brakes several seconds after they passed the bridge so it was like 500ft from breaking point to complete stop.. (or I'm way wrong and Jesse was measuring meters, 500m stop is possible)
post #1816 of 4069
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Originally Posted by Gary McCoy View Post

Breaking Bad easily cleared the hurdle for plausibility in this episode. I remember the first time I watched this episode, and how stunned I was when it was over.
The last time I was this excited about a series and saved the episodes and debated the details online was a little show called Lost. The difference is that Breaking Bad is still getting better and better, and Lost had already peaked and was clearly declining.

If you are looking for plausibility, Lost ought not be your first choice. Or second. Or nine hundred and eighty seventh.
post #1817 of 4069
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Originally Posted by TitusTroy View Post

it feels to me like instead of wrapping up, the show is expanding even further this season...and they're even introducing new major characters such as Lydia and Todd...with only 11 episodes remaining I don't see how they can wrap everything up...plus Jesse still needs to findout that Walt poisoned Brock, killed Jane, Hank needs to put all the pieces together etc...I see them increasing the final 8 episodes next summer to something like 12

Walt didn't really kill Jane; he just let her die. There is a difference in my opinion. Ironically he was trying to protect Jesse at that point, but fast forward to current times and Walt will likely be the death of him.
post #1818 of 4069
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Why does Jesse need to find out anything? Why does Hank need to solve the case? There are many ways that those two things could play out in the course of a single episode, or perhaps never at all

those 2 things 100% most definitely need to happen before the show wraps...there are some things you can get away with not resolving and leaving up to the viewer's interpretation but Hank finding out about Walt and Jesse finding out about Brock and Jane are things you absolutely need to resolve...I think even Vince Gilligan mentioned in an interview that after all the years of build up to Hank chasing Walt that the viewer would feel cheated if that is not resolved...I totally agree...I also think Jesse needs to find out what Walt did to those close to him as Jesse needs to know in terms of his character arc

and it needs to happen over the course of a few episodes and not rushed into 1...the acting and characters on this show are way too good to allow anything to be rushed
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Walt didn't really kill Jane; he just let her die. There is a difference in my opinion

he could have saved her if he wanted to (or attempted to anyhow)...letting her die is not too far from actually killing her...he made the decision with intent to let her die to manipulate Jesse
post #1819 of 4069
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he could have saved her if he wanted to (or attempted to anyhow)...letting her die is not too far from actually killing her...he made the decision with intent to let her die to manipulate Jesse

Right, but she killed herself. Walt just didn't do anything to stop it.
post #1820 of 4069
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Originally Posted by TitusTroy View Post

those 2 things 100% most definitely need to happen before the show wraps...there are some things you can get away with not resolving and leaving up to the viewer's interpretation but Hank finding out about Walt and Jesse finding out about Brock and Jane are things you absolutely need to resolve......

I'd be fine if Jesse never finds out about those things. But I do agree that Hank needs to find out about Walt.
post #1821 of 4069
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But I do agree that Hank needs to find out about Walt.

It would appear that the stage is being set for the revelation by writing in Hank's promotion. His elevation in rank ups the stakes and perhaps the devastation/humiliation for Hank when Walter's escapades come to light. Throw in the interplay with Skylar and her sister/brother in law, and it seems we're going to see this for sure.
post #1822 of 4069
Hank's rise within the ranks of the DEA has mirrored Walt's assencion in the drug world...no coincidence me thinks
post #1823 of 4069
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Originally Posted by Ray Lucca View Post

Watched Sunday's episode again last night, just keeps getting better. Now that Dodge is a big insertion sponsor on the show, why was a HD Ford Truck used by the "good samaritan", and not a HD Ram???

Probably couldn't afford another truck. Or maybe the HD Ram wasn't up to pushing the big truck off the tracks. wink.gif
post #1824 of 4069
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Originally Posted by TitusTroy View Post


those 2 things 100% most definitely need to happen before the show wraps...there are some things you can get away with not resolving and leaving up to the viewer's interpretation but Hank finding out about Walt and Jesse finding out about Brock and Jane are things you absolutely need to resolve...I think even Vince Gilligan mentioned in an interview that after all the years of build up to Hank chasing Walt that the viewer would feel cheated if that is not resolved...I totally agree...I also think Jesse needs to find out what Walt did to those close to him as Jesse needs to know in terms of his character arc
and it needs to happen over the course of a few episodes and not rushed into 1...the acting and characters on this show are way too good to allow anything to be rushed
he could have saved her if he wanted to (or attempted to anyhow)...letting her die is not too far from actually killing her...he made the decision with intent to let her die to manipulate Jesse

 

I agree on the Hank resolution, but not on the Jesse resolution.   I personally think it would be a great ending if Walter manipulated Jesse up to the final minute of the series at which point Jessie puts a bullet in Walt's head.     This show is at its finest with Walt and Jesse acting as the dynamic duo.   I don't want to watch a prolonged, multi-episode breakup.  I want a nuclear detonation.  

post #1825 of 4069
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Originally Posted by edpowers View Post

I agree on the Hank resolution, but not on the Jesse resolution.   I personally think it would be a great ending if Walter manipulated Jesse up to the final minute of the series at which point Jessie puts a bullet in Walt's head.     This show is at its finest with Walt and Jesse acting as the dynamic duo.   I don't want to watch a prolonged, multi-episode breakup.  I want a nuclear detonation.  

BOOM! biggrin.gif I totally agree.
post #1826 of 4069
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Originally Posted by edpowers View Post

I agree on the Hank resolution, but not on the Jesse resolution.   I personally think it would be a great ending if Walter manipulated Jesse up to the final minute of the series at which point Jessie puts a bullet in Walt's head.     This show is at its finest with Walt and Jesse acting as the dynamic duo.   I don't want to watch a prolonged, multi-episode breakup.  I want a nuclear detonation.  

that would make no sense...if Walt manipulated Jesse up until the final minute then what reason would Jesse have to all of a sudden put a bullet in him?...and would that really be more satisfying then Jesse going 'nuclear' on Walt after finding out the truth about Jane and Brock?...the audience would have earned the payback by playing it out over years versus some quick trigger resolution during the last 10 minutes
post #1827 of 4069
I wonder if when Walt goes out to meet his enemies with an M60 machine gun in that ultimate "Scarface" showdown, if Hank or Mike or Jesse will then be an enemy. If Jesse or Mike either one turns informer, Walt would have to flee to somewhere he has never been and live under an assumed name while spending only cash. Someplace like New Hampshire, with a nerdish car like a Volvo.

Perhaps Walt will by that time be totally off the deep end, because Skylar has long since gone into witness protection and taken the kids. Then when the cancer returns, he decides to go out in a blaze of gunfire, taking as many of his enemies with him as he can.

Just speculation. Lots of ways they could go with this.
post #1828 of 4069
I think the end game will be Jessie simply can't deal with the guilt and anguish his path with Walt has taken him and he kills Walt, then either turns himself in or takes his own life. He's had a self-destructive personality from the beginning, and the ensuing year(?) sure hasn't helped to improve that situation.

I think this short clip goes over a lot of the reasons why. There is some swearing in it for those at work. A compilation of clips from the show itself, no spoilers.

post #1829 of 4069
If anyone is killing Walter it's going to be his bro in law Hank for humiliating him, as this has been already mention how Gus was right under the DEA's nose all that time with no clue..These guys with large ego, and bravado would lead him to the unthinkable..

Djoel
post #1830 of 4069
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Originally Posted by Nuance View Post

Walt didn't really kill Jane; he just let her die. There is a difference in my opinion.

She died both as a result of Walt's action and inaction. She was lying on her side, next to Jesse, when Walt broke into the apartment. When Walt attempted to wake Jesse up, by furiously shaking him, Jane rolled onto her back. Had Walt never been there, Jane would have just vomited all over Jesse.


I really don't see how Jesse can possibly find out about Jane unless Walt tells him about it. No one else knows.
Edited by cuzzin - 8/16/12 at 12:23am
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