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post #3751 of 4072
Why did he bother with a trunk release? The machine gun shot through the quarter panel from inside the trunk. There is a ragged horizontal gash visible where the panning gunfire cut through the metal. It's not like it popped up or out of the trunk to shoot from a higher position that cleared the car itself.
post #3752 of 4072
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Originally Posted by ToddR View Post

Why did he bother with a trunk release? The machine gun shot through the quarter panel from inside the trunk. There is a ragged horizontal gash visible where the panning gunfire cut through the metal. It's not like it popped up or out of the trunk to shoot from a higher position that cleared the car itself.

Because it looked bad ass.
post #3753 of 4072
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Originally Posted by ToddR View Post

Why did he bother with a trunk release? The machine gun shot through the quarter panel from inside the trunk. There is a ragged horizontal gash visible where the panning gunfire cut through the metal. It's not like it popped up or out of the trunk to shoot from a higher position that cleared the car itself.
I haven't gone back to look at this in detail, but possibly the trunk lid would have interferred with the range of motion of the gun as it oscillated back and forth.
post #3754 of 4072
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Originally Posted by ToddR View Post

Why did he bother with a trunk release? The machine gun shot through the quarter panel from inside the trunk. There is a ragged horizontal gash visible where the panning gunfire cut through the metal. It's not like it popped up or out of the trunk to shoot from a higher position that cleared the car itself.
Remo's answer may be the really correct one, but my impression was he used the trunk release on the car to trigger everything. So when he hit the button to trigger the Machine Gun, it also released the trunk, since that was what the remote was designed to do - open the trunk.

But it definitely did look bad-ass...
post #3755 of 4072
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Originally Posted by John dhein View Post

I understand that a lot of the things going on were glossed over, but, the one I questioned right away was why didn't the cops investigate Walts' footprints leading to the Volvo. In the fresh snow, they would have been very noticeable. Also why didn't the window snow fall off when he shut the door, but did when he hit the window?
Do we actually know where he stole the car from? Everyone's assumption is at the bar. Isn't Walt smarter than that? Well - much of the time.

Frankly I interpreted is he'd gone somewhere else to steal it & the reason the police left was they got the "Walter White is at the Bar!" call and thus left Walt stealing the car to chase Heisenberg at the bar he'd left. No real reason that I thought that, but...it's frankly a little more plausible as they raided the bar, found him missing & then didn't check the parking lot enabling him to steal the car.

As for the 2nd question, he wouldn't have his Fonzie moment if it fell off when the door closed. Or he closed the door really gently so as to not draw attention to the fact he was stealing the car? That's somewhat believable at least...
post #3756 of 4072
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Also why didn't the window snow fall off when he shut the door, but did when he hit the window?
As for the 2nd question, he wouldn't have his Fonzie moment if it fell off when the door closed. Or he closed the door really gently so as to not draw attention to the fact he was stealing the car? That's somewhat believable at least...

believable or not... it was just COOL! i caught myself talking outloud saying 'NIIIICE!!'
post #3757 of 4072
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Originally Posted by Karnis View Post

Regarding why Walt left Gray Matter, I remember the episode where in the flashback at the top Walt is all cozy with Gretchen...I always assumed the reason Walt left Gray Matter was because she got together with Elliot. He was hurt/ humiliated and took the $5K in cash.


I just gave you a thumbs up for that answer, which I was thinking that's the reason of the whole Gray Matter issue went down, Elliot, Gretcgen, and Walt do make a troublesome triangle, the thing that bothers me about this is the mid season episode when a younger Walt is all cocky at the open house with a pregnant Skylar. Who is he about to start working for Gray matter, or a university ?

I'm just wondering about the time line, did Walt married Skylar right after the break up with Gretchen, was he still working at GM while married to Skylar?

DJoel
post #3758 of 4072
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I just gave you a thumbs up for that answer, which I was thinking that's the reason of the whole Gray Matter issue went down, Elliot, Gretcgen, and Walt do make a troublesome triangle, the thing that bothers me about this is the mid season episode when a younger Walt is all cocky at the open house with a pregnant Skylar. Who is he about to start working for Gray matter, or a university ?

I'm just wondering about the time line, did Walt married Skylar right after the break up with Gretchen, was he still working at GM while married to Skylar?

DJoel
IIRC
didn't Walt do something @ GM that was inappropriate & that cost him his chance to get on at the University & the only job he could land is the High School teacher gig ?
I vaguely remember some people at the party talking behind Walt's back along those lines
post #3759 of 4072
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Originally Posted by DaMavs View Post

Do we actually know where he stole the car from? Everyone's assumption is at the bar. Isn't Walt smarter than that? Well - much of the time.

Frankly I interpreted is he'd gone somewhere else to steal it & the reason the police left was they got the "Walter White is at the Bar!" call and thus left Walt stealing the car to chase Heisenberg at the bar he'd left. No real reason that I thought that, but...it's frankly a little more plausible as they raided the bar, found him missing & then didn't check the parking lot enabling him to steal the car.

As for the 2nd question, he wouldn't have his Fonzie moment if it fell off when the door closed. Or he closed the door really gently so as to not draw attention to the fact he was stealing the car? That's somewhat believable at least...

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believable or not... it was just COOL! i caught myself talking outloud saying 'NIIIICE!!'


Does anybody still leave their keys above the Sun Visor:cool:?
post #3760 of 4072
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Originally Posted by Djoel View Post

I just gave you a thumbs up for that answer, which I was thinking that's the reason of the whole Gray Matter issue went down, Elliot, Gretcgen, and Walt do make a troublesome triangle, the thing that bothers me about this is the mid season episode when a younger Walt is all cocky at the open house with a pregnant Skylar. Who is he about to start working for Gray matter, or a university ?

Going from memory, I'm pretty sure Walt told the realtor he was working at Sandia National Laboratories, which probably means the Sandia Corporation, when they bought that house.
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I'm just wondering about the time line, did Walt married Skylar right after the break up with Gretchen, was he still working at GM while married to Skylar?

DJoel

I'm pretty sure he had already left GM by the time he and Skyler got married.
post #3761 of 4072
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Does anybody still leave their keys above the Sun Visor:cool:?

As far as I can tell, only on TV and in the movies. I've never seen anyone do that in real life, and I've been driving for 35 years.
post #3762 of 4072
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Originally Posted by Will2007 View Post

Going from memory, I'm pretty sure Walt told the realtor he was working at Sandia National Laboratories, which probably means the Sandia Corporation, when they bought that house.
I'm pretty sure he had already left GM by the time he and Skyler got married.


OK I forgot about Sandia, thanks


Djoel
post #3763 of 4072
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Does anybody still leave their keys above the Sun Visor:cool:?

lol yeah that ended with the 70s!!
post #3764 of 4072
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Originally Posted by ljmart View Post

lol yeah that ended with the 70s!!


I guess it goes hand in hand with those shows were someone reaches under the dash, grabs a handful of the wiring harness, and shorts two wires together in order to start the car.
post #3765 of 4072
Not sure anyone else pointed this out, but I thought the scene of Walt talking to himself inside the Volvo before stealing it was amazing:

"Just get me home and I'll do the rest". Walt's creation of Heisenberg had developed into full-blown multiple personality disorder. Heisenberg was telling Walt to get him home, and he would take over and fix everything. Or was it Walt telling Heisenberg ???eek.gif
post #3766 of 4072
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

The actress who played Gretchen explained what happened between Walt and Gretchen in a blog. Not sure why they never told this story on the show.
http://movies.stackexchange.com/questions/11014/why-exactly-did-walt-leave-grey-matter

good post...it was definitely a loose end that they never explained on the show...good to see that it was at least explained off-screen...Walt's inferiority complex fits in with his character arc
post #3767 of 4072

"Crystal Blue Persuasion"

Look over yonder
What do you see?
The sun is a-risin'
Most definitely
A new day is comin', whoo-hoo
People are changin'
Ain't it beautiful, whoo-hoo
Crystal blue persuasion

Better get ready
Gonna see the light
Love, love is the answer, whoo-hoo
And that's all right
So don't you give up now, whoo-hoo
It's so easy to find
Just look to your soul (Look to your soul)
And open your mind

Crystal blue persuasion
Mm-hmm
It's a new vibration
Crystal blue persuasion
Crystal
Blue persuasion

Maybe tomorrow
When he looks down
On every green field, whoo-hoo
And every town
All of his children
In every nation
There'll be peace and good
Brotherhood
Crystal blue persuasion
Yeah

Crystal blue persuasion, aha

EnJoy biggrin.gif
post #3768 of 4072
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Originally Posted by jcruse View Post

Not sure anyone else pointed this out, but I thought the scene of Walt talking to himself inside the Volvo before stealing it was amazing:

"Just get me home and I'll do the rest". Walt's creation of Heisenberg had developed into full-blown multiple personality disorder. Heisenberg was telling Walt to get him home, and he would take over and fix everything. Or was it Walt telling Heisenberg ???eek.gif
I took it as more of a prayer to God asking for safe passage so he could right wrongs and protect his family in the end. Heisenberg/Walt talking to Walt/Heisenberg is more fun though! biggrin.gif But I took it as a prayer...
post #3769 of 4072
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Originally Posted by oldcband View Post

Loved the series but still sticking with "The Wire" as the best show ever.

I think there should be a rule that before anyone can call Breaking Bad the best show ever they have to have at least seen 3 out of the 4 following shows - The Wire, The Sopranos, LOST, Game of Thrones...like in chemistry there needs to be a controlled variable...otherwise there will be plenty of 'prisoner of the moment' reactions caused by people only remembering what happened most recently versus having perspective on the past
post #3770 of 4072
Jesse's war scream at the end in the car driving seemed like it's going to be a continuation in the movies, but they going to call it Need for Speed! wink.gif


Djoel
post #3771 of 4072
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Originally Posted by Djoel View Post

Jesse's war scream at the end in the car driving seemed like it's going to be a continuation in the movies, but they going to call it Need for Speed! wink.gif

first thing I thought of when watching that trailer was that it looks like a Fast and Furious knockoff...I wish Aaron Paul well in his post Breaking Bad career but I'm not sure if this movie is the right showcase
post #3772 of 4072
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Originally Posted by TitusTroy View Post

I think there should be a rule that before anyone can call Breaking Bad the best show ever they have to have at least seen 3 out of the 4 following shows - The Wire, The Sopranos, LOST, Game of Thrones...like in chemistry there needs to be a controlled variable...otherwise there will be plenty of 'prisoner of the moment' reactions caused by people only remembering what happened most recently versus having perspective on the past

Yeah, I do not think this will end up being "prisoner of the moment" moment with BB

I've seen all the above and I think out of the ones you chose, The Wire, and maybe GoT could stand a chance against BB. But I think BB will do quite the opposite, I think it will even get better with age. Also I can't put the Sopranos or LOST in the same category. Not even for , in my opinion, their awful endings. Sopranos last two seasons were mediocore at best compared to the previous seasons. Lost, I was a big fan, but soo many weak episodes it's just not a fair comparison to BB. (was their a weak episode in BB? Fly perhaps?)

So since GoT I'll wait till there is an end game for that one. I could say right now, The Wire and BB could be a tie, but I'd lean on BB any day of the week.
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Originally Posted by TitusTroy View Post

first thing I thought of when watching that trailer was that it looks like a Fast and Furious knockoff...I wish Aaron Paul well in his post Breaking Bad career but I'm not sure if this movie is the right showcase

I wouldn't worry about the guy too much. imdb lists him with three movies in post production, one of them a film adaptation of a Nick Hornby novel, all of them set for release next year, and one filming, directed by Ridley Scott.

He's probably got scripts being delivered to his door daily.
post #3774 of 4072
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Originally Posted by C*Tedesco View Post

Yeah, I do not think this will end up being "prisoner of the moment" moment with BB

I've seen all the above and I think out of the ones you chose, The Wire, and maybe GoT could stand a chance against BB. But I think BB will do quite the opposite, I think it will even get better with age. Also I can't put the Sopranos or LOST in the same category. Not even for , in my opinion, their awful endings. Sopranos last two seasons were mediocore at best compared to the previous seasons. Lost, I was a big fan, but soo many weak episodes it's just not a fair comparison to BB. (was their a weak episode in BB? Fly perhaps?)

So since GoT I'll wait till there is an end game for that one. I could say right now, The Wire and BB could be a tie, but I'd lean on BB any day of the week.

people sometimes judge an entire series too harshly based on the final episode...you need to look at the entire body of work...LOST didn't have the ending many were expecting but that doesn't take away from the amazing mythology that was built up in the seasons leading up to it...LOST's ending was not bad when looked at in a narrow prism but it doesn't fit with the mythology and mystery that preceded it...Sopranos had some of the strongest acting I've ever seen on a television show...James Gandolfini's portrayal of Tony Soprano was the best singular acting performance I've ever seen on TV...it was so effortless and realistic

Breaking Bad had its share of weak episodes but people tend to overlook them to fit into their vision of what the show was...this season alone had probably the weakest episode to date- titled Rabid Dog...not to mention some hard to believe coincidences I mentioned in an earlier post such as Jane's father running into Walt in the bar etc...that being said there's no harm in being in the Top 3 of all time which is where BB ranks for me...in the end when all is said and done I have no doubt that Game of Thrones will end up as the all time best
post #3775 of 4072
I may be in the minority here, but I thought it was an average ending to a way above average show. Although, I suppose there's no way it could possibly live up to expectations. VG and co. didn't help by publicly talking up this finale either.

I didn't hate it. I think it needed and deserved another four or five episodes though. At least a two hour finale. The song was awesome.
post #3776 of 4072
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Originally Posted by TitusTroy View Post

people sometimes judge an entire series too harshly based on the final episode...you need to look at the entire body of work...LOST didn't have the ending many were expecting but that doesn't take away from the amazing mythology that was built up in the seasons leading up to it...LOST's ending was not bad when looked at in a narrow prism but it doesn't fit with the mythology and mystery that preceded it...Sopranos had some of the strongest acting I've ever seen on a television show...James Gandolfini's portrayal of Tony Soprano was the best singular acting performance I've ever seen on TV...it was so effortless and realistic

Breaking Bad had its share of weak episodes but people tend to overlook them to fit into their vision of what the show was...this season alone had probably the weakest episode to date- titled Rabid Dog...not to mention some hard to believe coincidences I mentioned in an earlier post such as Jane's father running into Walt in the bar etc...that being said there's no harm in being in the Top 3 of all time which is where BB ranks for me...in the end when all is said and done I have no doubt that Game of Thrones will end up as the all time best

I'm watching Game Of Thrones now, I'm only about half way into season 2. I like it, but to me, it's just not up there with the "greatest shows" of all time. I find myself sometimes wishing an episode would just end already, but I never felt that way with Breaking Bad. I did with Lost, several times. But then they would leave a cliff hanger ending that would keep me coming back.
post #3777 of 4072
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Originally Posted by DaMavs View Post

I took it as more of a prayer to God asking for safe passage so he could right wrongs and protect his family in the end. Heisenberg/Walt talking to Walt/Heisenberg is more fun though! biggrin.gif But I took it as a prayer...

I thought he was talking to the car.
post #3778 of 4072
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I thought he was talking to the car.

I might be wrong, but I thought he was looking in the rear-view mirror at himself when saying that line...but I was a Psych major, so maybe I'm reaching a little.
post #3779 of 4072
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Originally Posted by Tack View Post

I may be in the minority here, but I thought it was an average ending to a way above average show. Although, I suppose there's no way it could possibly live up to expectations. VG and co. didn't help by publicly talking up this finale either.

I didn't hate it. I think it needed and deserved another four or five episodes though. At least a two hour finale. The song was awesome.

No, I definitely share that opinion. It wasn't a bad episode, emotionally it hit everything square on, but it seemed so perfunctory and mechanical plotwise. Like, here's the part where Jesse kills Todd, next beat, here's where Jack survives to have one last line, etc., and the final plan just seemed to rely on luck (they took his car keys, but conveniently laid them within reach, they allowed him to park exactly at the right spot, etc.), whereas (for comparison) the killing of Gus Fring was just plain brilliant and showcased Walt's intelligence. And it seemed a little rushed, like you said, like it was just racing to tie up loose ends.

I did love the final shot overhead and the song.

I also liked the fact that the money's fate (other than the nine million Walt arranged for his kids) is not revealed. That money is lost forever to the characters, and that's how it should be.
post #3780 of 4072
someone else mentioned this earlier and I also agree...Walt was shot in the gut meaning he could easily survive, especially since the cops arrived almost instantly...I know it's meant to be written as his death but theoretically it does not have to be a fatal wound...they could have shot him in the heart or head for it to be definitive
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