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post #91 of 359
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Originally Posted by mycatsnameis View Post

Well not really and I certainly wouldn't consider you an enemy, "Monoprice apologist" is not a line on my business card. You raise valid points although I think it would be informative if you could provide links so the rest of us could learn as much as you clearly have about the certification process, which companies use it, which don't etc. Also, you imply that Monoprice is the only company having mounts produced in Asia. That seems rather unlikely at best and perhaps a little jingoistic at worst ...

catnameis...Glad to hear I'm not making an enemy! I think you took my "made in Asia" wrong. Nothing wrong with made in China/Asia... My issue is when products made overseas, without having testing done especially for products that have a high possible failure or material manufacturing concerns. It doesn't matter where ever it's made, testing for the US market for safety is important to me and it should be for you, maybe not.


[quote=brettvdi;15363498]This is a great solution for running power through the wall to the conditioner. It's from monoprice as well.QUOTE]

I think the monoprice version of the actual Powerbridge is fine, but it is more expensive and you need to purchase the junction boxes seperatly. Try this AVS member price link instead. http://www.powerbridgesolution.com/avsspecialorder.html comes in other colors and they have one that has av connections on it too. either the actual Powerbridge unit or the MP unit is better than just putting the power cord in the wall.


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Originally Posted by audiovideogeek View Post

That I understand.. I mean it is a 131lb TV after all so there will likely be some wobble . It is just a little unnerving when it wobbles everytime you try and change settings by pressing the buttons.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!??? Really, you're OK with a "wobble" NO WAY brother! This is what I'm talking about, especially on an articulating pull away mount with moving parts and joints. NO WAY in H%ll would I keep that mount! Good luck with that, hope all works out in the long run and saving a few buck is worth it!

Ok, now I'm sure I've upset the apple cart now! Sorry just had to call it as I read 'em....

Merry Christmas,,, again...
post #92 of 359
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Originally Posted by avnuttyguy View Post

Will the metals fail after time and stress? Metals do fail and become brittle, but not if the correct materials and tempering is done.

Nope, and not for the reasons you speculate about either. Me, I'd worry about creep, but these brackets are a little too beefy for a 40# load per point to worry about that.

I'm far more worried about four lag bolts holding in a kitchen cabinet with at least a combined 150# load of dishes, glasses, and cabinet. And each of those bolts anchors a wooden stick 2" x 1" in size.

I realize most of what you've posted is speculation, so take my reply for what it's worth. Most of this discussion regarding brackets is academic; it's only a problem when it's not installed correctly.
post #93 of 359
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Originally Posted by colossus View Post

I realize most of what you've posted is speculation, so take my reply for what it's worth. Most of this discussion regarding brackets is academic; it's only a problem when it's not installed correctly.

I could not agree more! Speculation is the problem. As a consumer who purchases a product that is intended for a specific use it should be TRUSTED that it will. When companies like MP make products to sell in a market place so much cheaper than others, you have to question the integrity of that company and product. MP does not have any testing information regarding their mounts, although they make the "claim" of weight load, and probably will and do.

What concerns me is when several posters say they "wobble" or Creak, that should not be happening. Do you speculate that the MP mount wil absolutly not fail? Then perhaps with respect to you and others your trusting in MP and their manufacture and all the suppliers of materials and parts.

Me,,, I'm NOT OK with that and buyer beware and make their own decisions as to speculation and trust of NON TESTED products.

Hey, I'm OK with that, it's a free world, just remnember all the product recalls out there because of trusting and speculation that many have suffered consequences from.

Just my opinion.
post #94 of 359
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Originally Posted by avnuttyguy View Post


ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!??? Really, you're OK with a "wobble" NO WAY brother! This is what I'm talking about, especially on an articulating pull away mount with moving parts and joints. NO WAY in H%ll would I keep that mount! Good luck with that, hope all works out in the long run and saving a few buck is worth it!

Ok, now I'm sure I've upset the apple cart now! Sorry just had to call it as I read 'em....

Merry Christmas,,, again...

It's actually not that bad but at the same time its not exactly preferrable. I do think I'm going to keep the mount though because for the most part the mount is in the retracted position and as a result, it has incredible shearing strength and the possibility of the mount failing and my TV crashing to earth is highly unlikely. If it did ofcourse, it would most likely bring most of my living room wall with it :P. I looked at the Omnimount UCL-XB but unfortunately its not available in Canada and seems like a pain to get shipped from the US so I'm going to stick with the Monoprice mount for now.
post #95 of 359
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Originally Posted by audiovideogeek View Post

That I understand.. I mean it is a 131lb TV after all so there will likely be some wobble . It is just a little unnerving when it wobbles everytime you try and change settings by pressing the buttons.

The home theatre guy who I bought my 850 from was by yesterday (to deliver my 111FD - yay!) and had a look at the 850 install I had done with the articulated mount. Was extremely impressed as we had put it in a space that had about 1.5" clearance all around. He had offered to sell me a Sanus mount when I bought the TV but when I told him I was buying a monoprice mount he acknowledged immediately that it was good and I should not worry about getting a Sanus. I showed him the amount of play on the 850 and he said that was exactly what you would expect with any extendable mount.
post #96 of 359
i used a Monoprice mount and works perfectly and great price!
post #97 of 359
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Originally Posted by avnuttyguy View Post

What concerns me is when several posters say they "wobble" or Creak, that should not be happening. Do you speculate that the MP mount wil absolutly not fail? Then perhaps with respect to you and others your trusting in MP and their manufacture and all the suppliers of materials and parts.

Me,,, I'm NOT OK with that and buyer beware and make their own decisions as to speculation and trust of NON TESTED products.

Hey, I'm OK with that, it's a free world, just remnember all the product recalls out there because of trusting and speculation that many have suffered consequences from.

Just my opinion.

Yeah, but I'd expect to see posts here or at other sites about MP mounts failing. MP will totally lose the 'word of mouth' they earned here and at other sites, and soon enough they'll lose the business, and deservedly so.

I haven't looked, but to be honest, the $40 bracket I bought, rated for 163#, is fine for my $3100 122# Samsung. My suspicion is their brackets are rebadged and made for MP by the same company. My father has the identical bracket supporting his PN50A650, and that's nearly 100# as well.

I'm not using a telescoping bracket but then again, I don't need one. If it's wobbling, that's due to undamped motion, not necessarily due to a bad or weak bracket. Moving 120+ pounds 18" away from a wall mount puts an awfully serious load on stuff and if it's bouncing, nothing short of a piston damper is gonna dissipate the load. Hold 120 pounds at arm's length and see how hard it is!

I can remove the dampers from a $750,000 Ferrari and it'll do the same thing if I push one end of the car down. That doesn't mean it's a cheap car, nor badly engineered.

My take is that a lot of places are pulling a Monster and overcharging for what really is about $20 of stamped and formed sheet metal. I can't imagine what the markup on these things is, but I am confident MP is still making a tidy profit.
post #98 of 359
Good thread.

I just bought a Toshiba 42" XV545 LCD for placing in a cabinet above a bar.
(I'll try to include pics).
My reason for using a mount is to allow access behind TV to mount a cable box, etc.

I was looking at Monoprice mounts -- the 3724 -- but now I wonder about the 3725 (aluminum) or others (eg 4926). The are all back ordered at this point. My TV should arrive from Amazon on Tue or Wed. The carpenter who built my basement (framing) and bar will help me install it and the studs are in known positions (from photos prior to cabinet added to wall).

Questions:
- why is aluminum better than steel mounts (3724 @ $56 vs. 3725 @ $78). The price differential isn't a concern, just want to know.
- which Monoprice LCD TV mount? 3724 3725 4926 for my application?

Thanks.

Mike
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post #99 of 359
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Originally Posted by Mike_WI View Post

Good thread.

I just bought a Toshiba 42" XV545 LCD for placing in a cabinet above a bar.
(I'll try to include pics).
My reason for using a mount is to allow access behind TV to mount a cable box, etc.

I was looking at Monoprice mounts -- the 3724 -- but now I wonder about the 3725 (aluminum) or others (eg 4926). The are all back ordered at this point. My TV should arrive from Amazon on Tue or Wed. The carpenter who built my basement (framing) and bar will help me install it and the studs are in known positions (from photos prior to cabinet added to wall).

Questions:
- why is aluminum better than steel mounts (3724 @ $56 vs. 3725 @ $78). The price differential isn't a concern, just want to know.
- which Monoprice LCD TV mount? 3724 3725 4926 for my application?

Thanks.

Mike

From Monoprice tech support:

Howard H (Level 3):
PID# 3724 uses hollow steel bars for the construction of it''''s cantilever arms.
PID# 3725 uses solid aluminum bars for the arms.
Though both have the same rated wieght capacity, the steel arms have slightly more flex resulting in a little more sag when mounting the largest displays.
The solid aluminum construction of PID# 3725 makes it perfect for larger LCD''''s and Plasmas.
you: Ok. So I would take the 3725 over 3724.
you: What about the 4926?
Howard H (Level 3): PID# 4926 is a single arm design. It has a longer reach but less weight capacity.


The 4926 doesn't have an ETA, so I'll likley get the 3725.
The TV is 54# so anything should likely be okay.
The VESA pattern should work as well.

I also asked them to comment on this thread to add any info to the good questions and speculation.


Mike
post #100 of 359
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Originally Posted by Mike_WI View Post

From Monoprice tech support:

Howard H (Level 3):
PID# 3724 uses hollow steel bars for the construction of it''''s cantilever arms.
PID# 3725 uses solid aluminum bars for the arms.
Though both have the same rated wieght capacity, the steel arms have slightly more flex resulting in a little more sag when mounting the largest displays.
The solid aluminum construction of PID# 3725 makes it perfect for larger LCD''''s and Plasmas.
you: Ok. So I would take the 3725 over 3724.
you: What about the 4926?
Howard H (Level 3): PID# 4926 is a single arm design. It has a longer reach but less weight capacity.


The 4926 doesn't have an ETA, so I'll likley get the 3725.
The TV is 54# so anything should likely be okay.
The VESA pattern should work as well.

I also asked them to comment on this thread to add any info to the good questions and speculation.


Mike

Just a heads up....your outlet and cable junction boxes look like they are right where the wallplate for the mount will attach. This may cause you some issues.
post #101 of 359
welp, at least ole Howard was awake & spoke english, and it sounds like he was actually VERY knowledgeable about his product. that's 3 "up checks" in my book.

i looked around at the new "HHgregg" store over lunch.
their mount prices were same as other big box stores.

my MP mount should be today, does anyone want me to take the micrometer to it, and see how thick the metal is? detailed pics?

I have no doubt the mounts MP sells for a reasonable profit (quantity) are the same you buy elsewhere for an extravagant profit.

shop wisely & frugally
post #102 of 359
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Originally Posted by eddie501 View Post

Just a heads up....your outlet and cable junction boxes look like they are right where the wallplate for the mount will attach. This may cause you some issues.

Argh.
Thanks for the comment.
I'll have to look at it some more.

Mike
post #103 of 359
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Originally Posted by eddie501 View Post

Just a heads up....your outlet and cable junction boxes look like they are right where the wallplate for the mount will attach. This may cause you some issues.

Monoprice Product ID 3725





Range of Motion -

Tilt: -15 to +15 degree up and down.
Swivel: -60 to +60 degree side to side
Extension from wall: about 5" to 20"

Is there enough flexibility in the mount (shown above with link) to fit the wall plate under the outlets in my bar above?



Mike
post #104 of 359
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Originally Posted by Mike_WI View Post

Monoprice Product ID 3725





Range of Motion -

Tilt: -15 to +15 degree up and down.
Swivel: -60 to +60 degree side to side
Extension from wall: about 5" to 20"

Is there enough flexibility in the mount (shown above with link) to fit the wall plate under the outlets in my bar above?



Mike

What are the dimensions of the opening in your furniture? How far from the bottom and sides are the junction boxes? Do you want the TV centered in the space?
post #105 of 359
By the way, nice set up Mike.
post #106 of 359
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Originally Posted by eddie501 View Post

By the way, nice set up Mike.

eddie501 -

Thanks.
I admit that I wasn't considering mounting positions when the cabinets were designed/built.

Mike
post #107 of 359
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Originally Posted by astrovirus View Post

I hung my 58" Panny from the monoprice 3725 mount yesterday. Again, I used 4 1/2" lag screws and mounted into 6x6 reinforced framing. I experienced no initial sag and not even a "creak" when hanging the television. I've had the mount extended, swiveled, and tilted several times while getting everything plugged in and lined up. There is no way that this mount will fail in its current configuration thru normal use. The only downside is that extending a 58" plasma by hand is not easy as the articulating points are extremely stiff (as they should be to avoid the television "floating" out from the wall) and takes some muscle, or two people, to move easily. Aside from the reasonable price point, I would still recommend this model to hang a TH-58PZ800U.

Is that 4x 0.5" lag bolts/screws, or 4.5" lag bolts/screws. I was at the local hardware store and saw some 4" long 1/2" lag bolts/screws, but wasn't sure if that's what I should use.
post #108 of 359
Don't remember if this is a monoprice mount or not, but I can tell you it was 'cheap' and I bought it online, so it very well could be, this set has been up since Feb. with no issues.

'see next post for pictures' , I have to have 3 posts.ugh!!


-Alan
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post #110 of 359
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Originally Posted by eddie501 View Post

What are the dimensions of the opening in your furniture? How far from the bottom and sides are the junction boxes? Do you want the TV centered in the space?

eddie501 -

I showed the picture and mount to my carpenter and he agrees with you that it might be a problem.
I'm at work now and don't have the dimensions on hand, but will post soon.


Yes, I want the TV centered -- I think it would look weird otherwise.
Thanks again for your comments.

Another option would be just using the stand (if it will fit) and getting help to pull the TV out to install the SA8300HD cable box and pull an IR repeater around.

Mike

PS - the 3725 is still listed as "Estimated Time Arrival: 12/30/2008". We'll see if this "opens up" today.
post #111 of 359
I just mounted a Panny 58" 850 with a 3725. Will try to post some pics. FYI, although it is sold out at Monoprice, I bought mine from onlybestrated.com (they resell some Monoprice products) as it was in stock and in Canada (therefore shipping was less for me).

With the Cdn exchange rate where it is, you might find this to come out comparably priced to MP after shipping if you are not willing to wait for it if MP pushes back teh arrival date.

For Canadian buyers this is also a great place to pick up Oppo products as well.
post #112 of 359
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Originally Posted by mycatsnameis View Post

I just mounted a Panny 58" 850 with a 3725. Will try to post some pics. FYI, although it is sold out at Monoprice, I bought mine from onlybestrated.com (they resell some Monoprice products) as it was in stock and in Canada (therefore shipping was less for me).

With the Cdn exchange rate where it is, you might find this to come out comparably priced to MP after shipping if you are not willing to wait for it if MP pushes back teh arrival date.

For Canadian buyers this is also a great place to pick up Oppo products as well.

Never heard of it before.
Thanks.
Mike
post #113 of 359
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Originally Posted by Mike_WI View Post

Argh.
Thanks for the comment.
I'll have to look at it some more.

Mike

you might be able to put the cross bar high, and put the mounts high, i had a bit of flexibility in where/how to mount the TV on the mount.


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Originally Posted by mycatsnameis View Post

although it is sold out at Monoprice, I bought mine from onlybestrated.com (they resell some Monoprice products)

if you google the 4 digit PN, and the word MOUNT, they are sold a lot of places.

my MP box came in an box with MP printed all over it, so you would know if it came from MP.

here's a really dumb questions, but how far apart are the studs in your house?

16 inches, right?

well, WHY is the mount 32 INCHES long!?!?!?!

it basically physically prevents you from mouting it on three studs,
unless you grind a hole in the end, and put a big fender washer on the bolts on the end.

i could have hit three studs if the mount was longer, but only got 2.

my studs were off the center of my fireplace by about 2 inches, but the TV mounts were 27 inches a apart.

I could have centered the mounting plate on three studs for maximum strength, an then slid the TV to the center of the fireplace.
post #114 of 359
FYI...

First of all, thank you for choosing Monoprice.com. The following item is now back in stock.

Adjustable Tilting/Swiveling Wall Mount Bracket for LCD Plasma (Max 175Lbs, 32~60inch) - Aluminum Arms
(Product Link: http://www.monoprice.com/products/search.asp?keyword=3725)
Should you have any question, please email at sales@monoprice.com. Thank you so much for your great support.

Regards,
Sales Dept.
Monoprice, Inc.

-----
Hmm, so to order and try or not?

Mike
post #115 of 359
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Originally Posted by 04ctd View Post

you might be able to put the cross bar high, and put the mounts high, i had a bit of flexibility in where/how to mount the TV on the mount.




if you google the 4 digit PN, and the word MOUNT, they are sold a lot of places.

my MP box came in an box with MP printed all over it, so you would know if it came from MP.

here's a really dumb questions, but how far apart are the studs in your house?

16 inches, right?

well, WHY is the mount 32 INCHES long!?!?!?!

it basically physically prevents you from mouting it on three studs,
unless you grind a hole in the end, and put a big fender washer on the bolts on the end.

i could have hit three studs if the mount was longer, but only got 2.

my studs were off the center of my fireplace by about 2 inches, but the TV mounts were 27 inches a apart.

I could have centered the mounting plate on three studs for maximum strength, an then slid the TV to the center of the fireplace.

Monoprice also sells a mount (3004) that is 36" wide and can be attached to three studs if you drill two additional holes in the center of the wall plate.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...#specification
post #116 of 359
[quote=04ctd;15414518]you might be able to put the cross bar high, and put the mounts high, i had a bit of flexibility in where/how to mount the TV on the mount.




There is some flexibility with these Monoprice mounts....the bracket arms that attach to the TV can be attached higher or lower on the TV based on bracket hole and attachment point spacing and the TV itself can be moved side to side on the front plate rail once the brackets are attached to the front plate. The amount of flexibility allowed is subject to the horizontal and vertical spacing of the attachment points on the back of your television.

Given the location of your j-boxes in the cabinet, I don't think you have enough up and down flexibility with the mount to overcome having to either attach the wall plate completely above or completely below the boxes and still have the TV centered.

I think the bottom line is this...unless the two j-boxes in the cabinet are at least 19 and 11/16" apart (the dimensions of the wall plate on mount 3725), you are going to have difficulty making that mount work without some type of relocation of one of the j-boxes. When you get home, measure the distance between the 2 boxes and if it is 19 and 11/16" or more (It doesn't look like it based on the pictures) you should be golden. If not, you could move one of the boxes or try to find a mount with a narrower wall plate that will fit between the 2 boxes.

Something like this might work as well because the cut out holes in the wall plate could go right over the j-boxes.

http://www.toptvmounts.com/collectio...tv-mount-32-50

I hope this helps you more than it confuses you.
post #117 of 359
the tilt only mount is sturdy,

the plate weighs 6 pounds, and the 2 tilt mounts weigh 6 lbs together.

the two "safety" screws on the right side were cross threaded or something, and i did NOT figure that out till I had the TV hung,

so when i take it off to do the wires, I will have to deal with that.

I think I will get some "anti tamper" screws to put in the safety screw holes (these are on the bottom bracket that locks the TV on the plate)
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post #118 of 359
I went through this entire thread and I dont' think I saw this, but can anyone confirm the mounting hole spacing on the back of the 58pz800u ?

Panasonic's website gives this for the 58pz850u and I'm assuming it's the same -
26"x12.6"

Are these centered on the back of the tv or are they more towards the top or bottom ?

I'm yet to buy one but would like to have the mount fixed before I order.

Thanks.
post #119 of 359
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Originally Posted by dandan123 View Post

I went through this entire thread and I dont' think I saw this, but can anyone confirm the mounting hole spacing on the back of the 58pz800u ?

Panasonic's website gives this for the 58pz850u and I'm assuming it's the same -
26"x12.6"

Are these centered on the back of the tv or are they more towards the top or bottom ?

I'm yet to buy one but would like to have the mount fixed before I order.

Thanks.

my 50 inch was ~27 inches apart, allows you some wiggle room to center the wall plate on the studs, and center the TV on the wall.
post #120 of 359
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Originally Posted by daMaster View Post

Is that 4x 0.5" lag bolts/screws, or 4.5" lag bolts/screws. I was at the local hardware store and saw some 4" long 1/2" lag bolts/screws, but wasn't sure if that's what I should use.

The length of the of the lag screws I used are 4.5" and the diameter was only slightly bigger than those that came with the mount, 5/16" maybe? The only reason I chose longer screws was because I built the mounting studs with 3 2x6 sandwiched together, so the extra length of the lag screws could be justified.

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Originally Posted by dandan123 View Post

I went through this entire thread and I dont' think I saw this, but can anyone confirm the mounting hole spacing on the back of the 58pz800u ? Panasonic's website gives this for the 58pz850u and I'm assuming it's the same -
26"x12.6" Are these centered on the back of the tv or are they more towards the top or bottom ?
Thanks.

The holes are spaced at 26"x12.6" on the 58pz800 and they are shifted upward of center. The top holes are 7.68" from the top of the display and the bottom holes are (obviously) 12.6" below them. I placed my mount before the tv arrived using these measurements and it ended up exactly where I calculated on the wall. I downloaded the owners manual online to get the rest of the Panny's measurements. As mentioned already the brackets holding the TV have multiple holes about 1 inch apart that allow the display to be adjusted up or down so that the mount would not have to be taken down if your measurements are off a bit. Just don't base your wall placement assuming you are using the last hole on the bracket as you won't have any room to raise the display if needed.
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