or Connect
AVS › AVS Forum › Display Devices › Digital Projectors - Under $3,000 USD MSRP › Calling you out...who owns a LED projector?
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Calling you out...who owns a LED projector? - Page 4

post #91 of 99
Thread Starter 
Originally Posted by parawizard View Post

60watt LED Driver and 50Watt LED have been paid for.

LED is 3800 lumens @ 50watts or 76 Lumens per watt.

I should be able to fit the driver in place of the old Phillips ballast I removed. This should be pretty wicked.

Sweet. Looking forward to your project.
post #92 of 99
Anyone interested in LED light source should enjoy reading all 19 pages of this thread.


Also my LED should be in the post soon and I am expecting delivery of my Da-lite high power 100" 4:3 screen and the 60watt Driver any day now.
post #93 of 99
Hi All...2nd post...have an LG HS102G...info & lots o pix in Photobucket to post...need 3 posts for URL...stay tuned.
post #94 of 99
Thread Starter 
Originally Posted by SG's HDHTPC View Post

Hi All...2nd post...have an LG HS102G...info & lots o pix in Photobucket to post...need 3 posts for URL...stay tuned.

Neat, looking forward to pictures. I'm pretty sure this is similar to the Samsung P400. Did you order this from overseas?

Edit: here is the link to his pictures:

post #95 of 99
New Member

Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: NorthBridge, Ma.
Posts: 4

Hey, man, you have 4 posts
post #96 of 99
Hey folks.

I find the P400B interesting, but there's one thing that troubles me (apart from the lousy resolution): is the cooling fan really noticeable noisy - compared to, say, an average laptop in its idle state?

This bit is from Trustedreviews'... review.

...we were quite happy to watch a film on the SP-P400B. Or rather, we would have been had the cooling fan not been quite so loud.

Given the SP-P400B's mainly business focus, we can understand that silence isn't going to be its first priority. But to not even have any sort of quiet mode - even if it meant reducing the brightness of the lamp - is rather frustrating. Sure, if you turn your sound system up and watch an action-packed film with an appropriately loud soundtrack, you probably won't mind, but if you really want to lose yourself in the home cinema experience this projector isn't for you anyway.

I can't post URL's yet, but there's also a short video review of it on TR. Gives some idea how it handles brightness-wise.


post #97 of 99
I bought the samsung p400. I don't really like projectors but this one caught my attention due to LED technology and portability.
I will probably receive it on late April. When I receive it, I will post here a high definition video-review.
post #98 of 99
I think my new Pelican 7060 flashlight uses this type of led, I think it's called phlatlight? All I can say is it's so bright I'm too frightened to look into it directly. Also it's the whitest light I've ever seen from a flashlight. I found this video on it. http://www.pelican.com/lights_detail.php?recordID=7060
post #99 of 99
Originally Posted by Reagan View Post

I love this idea. It's been in my head for a few months now.

Help me out on some issues/questions, please. Are these statements correct?

1. From what I can tell you wouldn't even have to buy the 67 inch Samsung, the 61 incher would do the job. Same internals.
2. The 1080p DLP chip in the Sammy is wobulated.
3. Light output is going to be low, so a high gain screen and a dark room are mandatory to get, say a 100 inch diagonal image.
4. The current generation of Sammys can correctly display a 24p image. If I understand correctly, they operate on at 120hz. All frames in 60fps signals are doubled and all frames in a 24fps signal are displayed 5 times.
5. New lens needed to handle different throw distance and focus.
6. And most importantly, a direct front projection of the image straight out of the lens would result in a backwards image (left/right flopped).


Just found this thread... does anyone still have any interest?

This is a project I've been actively (more or less) working on for a few months... bought up all the parts to make a complete "guts" for the 3rd gen model (with a few spare parts).

First comments... I hate losing the "Cinema Smooth" mirror that shifts the entire image vertically 1/2 pixel, to fill-in the inter-pixel gaps... it really does work.

To retain this "moving mirror", you have to retain a folded projection path... in fact, the "best case scenario" would be to add a fold, and use all the original optics... just in a slightly different manner.

Currently the image path leaves the DLP chip, goes through the main Lens assy (est. 4-5 elements, with focus), then through a circular cropping aperture (eliminating DLP "off-mode" spill), then bounced off the moving-mirror upwards at about 60°, then through the upper-half of the super-wide-angle lens assembly. This is where it leaves the Light Engine, and 'normally' reflects off the FS mirror, and onto the rear-projection screen.

I've been trying to figure out if it's possible to:
a) measure the original length of the light-path from the primary lens, to the wide-angle lens assy - this needs to be exactly the same post-mod
b) For the moving-mirror - move it closer to the primary lens assy, and change the reflected angle to 45° -
c) bounce image up to an additional small fixed 45° FS-mirror, reverting the light path back to the original direction as when it exited the DLP/main lens
d) remove shield from original wide-angle lens, and use it in a more traditional (not so much image shift) mode, but yet allow some image shift for a downward throw.

The goal is to place the projector (in it's new enclosure) flush with the ceiling, about 24" in front of the screen... whatever distance it takes to fill the screen (120" in my case)

Now... about brightness... I will likely need to swap out my existing Da-Lite Cinema Grey for a gain-type screen... the room allows for a narrower viewing angle, so I'm good there.

Preliminary tests at full-white show around 300-350 ANSI (9-point) lumens.

Not enough you say?... I think it is... the contrast in this thing is wonderful, and the saturation is incredible. My HT room (basement) has excellent ambient light control, so with full lights out, it looks absolutely great.

Alternative plan - use a different lens altogether. I bought a 'surplus' lens from a Runco 720p DLP projector, but it has too small a glass diameter (and "f-stop") for my flavor.... and not enough zoom range at the "Wide" end. I've not spent enough time with that lens yet though. First test with it gave only around 250 ANSI lumens under the same conditions.

With this "alternative lens" method, you lose the "Cinema Smooth" moving-mirror... so you will see some SDE... and the Samsung DLP pixels are rotated 45°... like a diamond... I had never heard of this DLP style before... maybe it's a custom for Samsung to take advantage of the 'moving-mirror' smoothing.

BTW - I have tried the original lens both with & without the Cinema Smoothing ("SP Actuator" in service menu) - and though the effect is not "huge"... even on my 120" screen, it's nice... but I seem to always be looking for nits to pick.

I need to learn more about the service menu - I'm not sure my LED's are cranked up 'all the way' - not going to mess with them until I learn. May be some mode I should be in to get maximum color correct brightness... but I tend to think the Test Patterns in the service menu would be at full brightness.

About "wobbulation"... can anyone verifiably confirm these 3rd gen models use this?? In my estimation... they don't. Maybe I'll find something in the service manual that indicates otherwise... but nothing yet... it seems to be full HD, with pixels rotated 45° from what I'd consider 'normal'.

Anyone with questions or comments, feel free!
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
AVS › AVS Forum › Display Devices › Digital Projectors - Under $3,000 USD MSRP › Calling you out...who owns a LED projector?