I still *LOVE* my PDP-5080HD, but is it worth the upgrade to a PDP-5020FD?

Have not upgraded, but depending on the price you paid for your 5080 to the price you can sell it to your friend to, it would be worth going 6020. I doubt I would upgrade to the 5020 though unless you were viewing inside that 8 foot range and are feeding it BluRay. It is a slightly better picture and has the higher resolution, so if you can take advantage of that it may be worth the upgrade, but again it would come down to cost and personal value.

Definitely an easier decision to go 60". If it were move the 5080 to the bedroom and replace main tv with 5020 I would do that as well. So I guess that logic could be used to replace with the 5020 too. If you're that attached to the 5080 though, I'd be afraid that there would be one thing that was different between them that would cause regrets. I don't think I'm making this any easier for you...

the problem with these forums is that eventually alot of people will have the latest and greatest and you'll be "stuck" with last year's best.

i have a 5080 and i still love it. the only way i would upgrade at this point would be if i came into some decent unexpected $$ and someone made me a great offer on the 5080. and then i wouldn't updrage unless it was to a 9G elite (the lack of controls on the 5020/6020 would bug me too much).

i guess it comes down to measuring how much you'll be getting in return for whatever investment you have to make. somewhat better black levels, but much less control over the picture is how i see it.

You're nuts. Unless you go for 60" don't bother.

See this thread even a larger jump.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1071651

I have to agree.

I would wait got the Holidays, and see if the 151 takes a substantial dip in price with sales, and specials.

The newer sets are a little brighter, which translates into better daytime viewing.

Again, moving to an Elite would be what I consider an upgrade, otherwise, your set is very good.

A minute ago I thought Dice-K looked pretty damn good whipping strike three past Longoria on my 5080 at 7.5 feet. So I'll stick with this one until they come up with that 75" 0 black 10 lumen 11th or 12th Gen Kuro.

Personally I would definitely prefer the 5020 from six and a half feet. I think you'll see a dramatically smoother and more detailed picture. Of course, if you're happy with what you have then why mess with it?

whats the point in upgrading after one year? obviously you guys have some buyers remorse. fact is, you should know what you want in a set before you buy it. if next years sets do not meet your requirements, its a waste of money to take the plunge then. if you ask me, the sets described in this forum are more than substantial to hold you off until someone makes exactly what you want. i think these forums derive a sort of competitiveness with all the doctors, lawyers, and business owners and their upgrades every 6 months at nauseum. just stupid.

Sure on 720p broadcasts.

I really think you'd be disappointed in what a 5020 would get you. Same goes for Elite.

You need a good few years to be worthwhile (I went 3 generations and Jumped to from non-elite to elite all staying the same size and yeah it is better but still, it is VERY hard to justify).

Wait another Generation or GO BIGGER.

imo, 50">50" upgrade is worth it only if you plan to watch a lot of 1080p source (blu-ray, gaming, etc)....you won't gain on braodcast

of course if you have a lot of money and itching to do something with it, you will gain the pleasure of owning the newer toy (priceless)

What I really want is a sub-$1,500 flat panel that can reproduce absolute black/zero idle luminance.

How long do you think the wait will be?

2010?

2011?

If you read the first post he says that his friend wants to buy his set. It has nothing to do with buyer's remorse.

I've looked at both the 5020 and 5080 very closely so I understand why you'd be worried about the trade/swap/upgrade. The 5080 is an increadible set. I bought 2 of the last new in box units available because I just couldn't see the improvement in the 5020 with bd over hdmi. $500 difference - maybe - but still hard to justify. I've heard the 5080 has higher brightness level and more tweakable but the 5020 has extra res. /saw off

i have a 5080 and a 151 - i would not trade my 5080 for a 5020 because the picture will not be any better on a 5020 - a tad blacker, but the color space is the same (cs1) and proper gray scale can not be used in all user modes on the 5020. You will be stuck with just a couple of properly calibrated user modes rather than all. Pioneer really screwed up on the 5020 and 6020.

also - i really doubt that you can tell the difference between a 5020 and a 5080 even at 6.5 feet

I sit 8-9 feet from my 1150 and the video noise and SDE really bothers me. 5020 should be much better in that respect.

Although I play a lot of games and watch high-def movies I also rely on the 480i / 480P quality of my 5080HD (which has been excellent!) Coming from an XBR960 CRT HDTV Im not at all disapointed with the 5080's standard def output.

But from what Ive read here and in reviews the 5020 model has sub-par standard definition processing.. So If that's at all important to you its something to consider.

my couch is 7-8 from the 5080 I have now and I don't notice SDE. Depends on how good your eye-sight is I guess.

Hey Zero, do you plan on keeping the 5080, or making the jump to the 1150?

I decided to still get the 1150. I'm waiting until next week when the place I got it from gets a couple back in stock so they can replace it. I really do use the extra calibrations options, also I read that the elites use a different screen filter which give them slightly deeper blacks than the regular pioneer models.

My eyesight isn't that great but it's really obvious to me. Not SDE as much as the noise.

Personally I can't see too much benefit in changing out my 5080 for a 5020...for the amount of $$$ that I would pay, I just can't imagine that I would get that much of a better picture. The lack of advanced picture controls kind of irks me as well.

Besides, the 5080 is still better than 99% of TV's on the market right now, and I'm reminded of that every time I step inside a retailer to do some browsing.

Upgrading to a 6020 could be a different story, however ...

I would only upgrade to the 151 depending on how far you site back. If you can wait for black Friday then go for it and enjoy it.

Every once in a while I go into my local high end a/v shop to just see what's new there and I am always amazed by the new Pioneers. Then I go home and pop in an HD disc and watch it on my 5080 and totally forget about the 5020 back at the store.

I think the only way I would upgrade in the OP case is to go to the 111FD Elite or the SIG 101FD.