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post #661 of 947
+2 on DBPoweramp.

I have the WD My Book-live NAS.
It worked well until I upgraded my service to Comcast with an all in one modem/router.

I'm sure the WD NAS drive is a fine choice >> I just need to figure out how to get it the Comcast box to "play nice"
post #662 of 947
New to the Sonos arena. Ordered my Play 5 and Bridge and they should be here tomorrow. Already making plans for future zones (Master bed, bath, shower... back yard, etc). This might be the death of my wallet smile.gif
post #663 of 947
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Originally Posted by Kerflop View Post

New to the Sonos arena. Ordered my Play 5 and Bridge and they should be here tomorrow. Already making plans for future zones (Master bed, bath, shower... back yard, etc). This might be the death of my wallet smile.gif

You just got married? wink.gif
post #664 of 947
Best Buy is running a promotion on SONOS AMP and CONNECT right now and I'm not sure how long it lasts. The deal I took was saving $250 on the AMP with a speaker purchase. It was the perfect opportunity to buy my outdoor speakers and AMP at a discount. I picked up the Definitive Technology 6.5" speaker for $249.99 and got the SONOS AMP for 249.99 after the promotion. I repeated this order an hour later and scored the second speaker and another AMP for another $500. Grand total of $1000 + tax for two SONOS AMPs and one pair of Definitive Technology speakers. Woot!

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?type=category&id=pcmcat295600050016
post #665 of 947
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Originally Posted by silvercity22 View Post

I currently own a Play 5, Play 3 and a sonos bridge. I own a few hundred CDs I'l like to rip them to a NAS device...my current setup has the bridge connected to the PC and I want to change that. I've read online that the WD My Book Live (2TB) works well....but before I order one I'd like to confirm it here. Is this a decent NAS or is there something else? I want to keep it simple and also have access to it via my ipad. Also, what program would I use to rip my CDs to the NAS device?

Thanks.

I've used a Netgear ReadyNAS Duo for several years with great satisfaction. It just always works. However if I were buying a NAS now I'd look at Synology products. They seem to get the best reviews amongst audiophiles that I've seen elsewhere, and have some magic in their systems for music playback.

For ripping I either use iTunes and rip all to AFLAC but just started using dbpoweramp which is a very nice product but can be overkill for a Sonos user. I'm not an Apple fanboy but for ease of use their ALAC lossless file format gets the job done on Sonos. dbpoweramp gives you lots of flexibility for higher rez files but Sonos doesn't play them back. The equivalent format of FLAC that Sonos will play is pretty much equal to ALAC. So if you're dedicated to your iTunes player keep it all simple and just use it.
post #666 of 947
I was strolling through Target yesterday and there was a Sonos display......Play 3 and 5 --- but I didn't see anything else
post #667 of 947
What a deal man! I sure wish I needed speakers but mine are already in wall/in ceiling. I need 4 more connect amps but can't use the speakers and there doesn't seem to be a lot of interest for the 800 series speakers on eBay.
post #668 of 947
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Originally Posted by jr_spyder View Post

I've used a Netgear ReadyNAS Duo for several years with great satisfaction. It just always works. However if I were buying a NAS now I'd look at Synology products. They seem to get the best reviews amongst audiophiles that I've seen elsewhere, and have some magic in their systems for music playback.

For ripping I either use iTunes and rip all to AFLAC but just started using dbpoweramp which is a very nice product but can be overkill for a Sonos user. I'm not an Apple fanboy but for ease of use their ALAC lossless file format gets the job done on Sonos. dbpoweramp gives you lots of flexibility for higher rez files but Sonos doesn't play them back. The equivalent format of FLAC that Sonos will play is pretty much equal to ALAC. So if you're dedicated to your iTunes player keep it all simple and just use it.

Sonos will play FLAC.
post #669 of 947
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Originally Posted by Phlegm Hankie View Post

Sonos will play FLAC.

That is correct. What I wrote may not have been clear enough. Basically FLAC and ALAC give the same performance over Sonos - both very good. So if Sonos is your playback device you may as well use iTunes ripping to ALAC as there is no additional value sonically in using dbpoweramp to rip to FLAC. Although dbpoweramp has some nice batch ripping features, including to ALAC. All the other higher rez file formats that dbproweramp can rip can't be played by a Sonos so why bother. Using iTunes ensures your files will be playable on Sonos and all your iThings - which is good and convenient. With dbpoweramp you may rip a bunch of stuff only to realize later it can't be played everywhere. So again, if you're committed to iTunes - and there's nothing wrong with that - your life will be less complicated if you use it for all your ripping, and you'll get excellent results with Sonos. Just set the default in iTunes to always rip to high rez (ALAC) and rip away.
post #670 of 947
+1 on the iTunes ALAC ripping. iTunes can be set to automatically change the encoding to 256, 128 etc when syncing your iDevices. Very straightforward and simple.
post #671 of 947
I had the same idea a few years back but never tried it
post #672 of 947
I just tried Sirius XM and Pandora on --- Which never worked before on hughes satellite internet -- and it now works all of a sudden ......also was able to update my Sonos controller

Wonder why??

Maybe even Rhapsody ??
post #673 of 947
Looks like the Sonos Mattes subs finally came out last week and sold out in minutes. They only made a few and immediately discontinued them. Probably to push customers towards the uglier, more expensive glossy models. Color me disappointed.
post #674 of 947
I'm listening to my Sonos Play:5 right now! We've got the 5 and a couple 3's. I definitely enjoyed the upgrade from 3 to 5 in our workspace. (It's actually almost more power than we need here.)

As a side note, my coworkers use the Play:3 in their office at the end of the hall, and I love throwing some random song into their playlist without them noticing.
post #675 of 947
EDIT: Clicked once, but post submitted twice. Sorry!
post #676 of 947
I have had my Play 5 for a few weeks, and I am SICK and TIRED of having to move it around the house... smile.gif Must buy more!!!! This may be a full on addiction.
post #677 of 947
'and I am SICK and TIRED of having to move it around the house... ' biggrin.gif

That seems to be the usual pattern with Sonos - it is a bit addictive!!!

Joe
post #678 of 947
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Originally Posted by Kerflop View Post

I have had my Play 5 for a few weeks, and I am SICK and TIRED of having to move it around the house... smile.gif Must buy more!!!! This may be a full on addiction.

Yup, same here, and looks like I will be adding another zone shortly (I think I have 4 zones currently). Don't think I have a need for the sub or sound bar (although tempted to get the sound bar just for $hits and giggles lol)
post #679 of 947
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Originally Posted by silvercity22 View Post

I currently own a Play 5, Play 3 and a sonos bridge. I own a few hundred CDs I'l like to rip them to a NAS device...my current setup has the bridge connected to the PC and I want to change that. I've read online that the WD My Book Live (2TB) works well....but before I order one I'd like to confirm it here. Is this a decent NAS or is there something else? I want to keep it simple and also have access to it via my ipad. Also, what program would I use to rip my CDs to the NAS device?

Thanks.

I have been using a WD My Book Live 2TB as a NAS device for some time now and it works seamlessly. I also use Itunes ( library mapped to an appropriate folder on the NAS drive). Rip all of my CD's using Itunes in Apple Lossless format ( ALAC) and it all works great with the 2 Sonos ZP-90's in use in my house.
Can definitely recomend this as a cost effective choice.
post #680 of 947
I posted this on another Sonos Playbar thread, but I thought I would re-post here as well in hopes of hitting a wider Sonos owner audience...

Can anyone confirm that the Playbar will produce 3.0/3.1 channel audio via DSP even when receiving a PCM 2.0 source from the TV? I've tried emailing Sonos with this question and have not received a reply.

I'm not interested in pairing the Playbar with Play:3's to create a "true" or "discrete" 5.1 setup (like many of the other contributors). I just want some virtual/simulated surround in my minimalist living room setup while also benefiting from Sonos' music streaming features. However, plain 2.0/2.1 channel stereo is a bit plain for the price.

Thanks in advance!
post #681 of 947
I got a brief sonos demo today and it still left me a little confused. I currently stream my iTunes/iPhone through an airport express and control it on my iPhone. Am I correct in thinking I can still do this w/sonos? What are the advantages of using sonos vs my current setup?
post #682 of 947
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Originally Posted by ambesolman View Post

I got a brief sonos demo today and it still left me a little confused. I currently stream my iTunes/iPhone through an airport express and control it on my iPhone. Am I correct in thinking I can still do this w/sonos? What are the advantages of using sonos vs my current setup?

Different sources in different rooms(can be done with Apple stuff but you need multiple instances of iTunes running somewhere) and perfect syncing when playing the same music in multiple zones.
post #683 of 947
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Originally Posted by jgiddyup View Post

Different sources in different rooms(can be done with Apple stuff but you need multiple instances of iTunes running somewhere) and perfect syncing when playing the same music in multiple zones.
But with sonos you can have one iTunes up and still have separate things playing in the other zones as long as there's another sonos unit in each of those zones? Also, I know that regardless of the bit rate sent through the airport, it only outputs at the native cd bit rate, not lossless. But the sonos will actually output the lossless rates correct? I'm guessing there's an internal DAC of higher quality than the airport? And I can actually stream flac or apple lossless through a sonos connect from my laptop/iPhone?
Edited by ambesolman - 7/3/13 at 8:32pm
post #684 of 947
I have 2 sonos connects feeding into a marantz sr6007 receiver. When I have the volume all the way up on the Sonos and lower the receiver volume I hear popping noises when there is bass in the music. I have to lower the volume to below max and increase the receiver volume and this goes away. Also if I set the connects to fixed line level out vs variable the same thing happens. Anyone know what is going on?
post #685 of 947
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Originally Posted by JW1212 View Post

I have 2 sonos connects feeding into a marantz sr6007 receiver. When I have the volume all the way up on the Sonos and lower the receiver volume I hear popping noises when there is bass in the music. I have to lower the volume to below max and increase the receiver volume and this goes away. Also if I set the connects to fixed line level out vs variable the same thing happens. Anyone know what is going on?

Haven't a clue on that one, but you might want to try a different set of outputs to the marantz and see if that makes a difference (Connect has opt/coax digital and analog). One other thing you can try is to connect another component to the same input in the same manner as the Sonos is connected and see if you get the same problem. If the problem doesn't recur then that mostly (not completely) eliminates the marantz as the problem. Otherwise contact Sonos.
post #686 of 947
Sonos Sub outside??

Curious if anyone has tried this. I have two Sonos Amp zones. My home office and the patio. Planning to order the sub for use in my office but when the weather is nice and we are entertaining, I am wondering how the sub might perform on the patio and if it might add some nice bottom end.

I know in an open air without a room enclosure it might not perform but wondering if anyone has tried it already.
post #687 of 947
Replying to my own post....

I purchased the Sonos Sub and tried on my patio and it worked great. I'm sure will be better indoors....but it did just what I wanted for the patio speakers.
post #688 of 947
I'm in! I bought a Sonos Connect from Best Buy today (just in case I need to make a return). It's the only thing I need right now. I'm single and in a small house. I'm not an expert at all this networking stuff and got it going in half-hour. It sounds great! My listening sessions used to be flipping cds in and out of the player and a lot of them are stored away in boxes. Now I have my entire i-tunes library in all it's lossless glory at my finger tips as well as radio from around the world, excellent! I have the connect hard wired and I'm using the digital coax out to my Yamaha RX-V2600. I listened for 3 hours. I am just using the sonos app on my laptop until I decide on a small tablet for the controller. I now understand why it is better to have a nas. I'll probably do a single bay Synology for my music and buy another nas for my Blu-ray movies(when I learn all that stuff) further down the line. I think the white box is ugly and wished they offered a brushed black finish. The other thing I notice is that it doesn't display all the album artwork in Sonos, yet it's all there in i-tunes. Does anyone know how to fix this? I may have missed it but, how do you power the connect unit down? cool.gif
post #689 of 947
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Originally Posted by ambesolman View Post

But with sonos you can have one iTunes up and still have separate things playing in the other zones as long as there's another sonos unit in each of those zones? Also, I know that regardless of the bit rate sent through the airport, it only outputs at the native cd bit rate, not lossless. But the sonos will actually output the lossless rates correct? I'm guessing there's an internal DAC of higher quality than the airport? And I can actually stream flac or apple lossless through a sonos connect from my laptop/iPhone?
Bump
post #690 of 947
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Bley View Post

I'm in! I bought a Sonos Connect from Best Buy today (just in case I need to make a return). It's the only thing I need right now. I'm single and in a small house. I'm not an expert at all this networking stuff and got it going in half-hour. It sounds great! My listening sessions used to be flipping cds in and out of the player and a lot of them are stored away in boxes. Now I have my entire i-tunes library in all it's lossless glory at my finger tips as well as radio from around the world, excellent! I have the connect hard wired and I'm using the digital coax out to my Yamaha RX-V2600. I listened for 3 hours. I am just using the sonos app on my laptop until I decide on a small tablet for the controller. I now understand why it is better to have a nas. I'll probably do a single bay Synology for my music and buy another nas for my Blu-ray movies(when I learn all that stuff) further down the line. I think the white box is ugly and wished they offered a brushed black finish. The other thing I notice is that it doesn't display all the album artwork in Sonos, yet it's all there in i-tunes. Does anyone know how to fix this? I may have missed it but, how do you power the connect unit down? cool.gif

The unit will go into a low-power state (4w) when music is stopped via the controller. Pressing the MUTE button on the unit will not stop the music stream, so the unit will not power down. For a controller, I have the Sonos app on a 4.3" phone and a 7" tablet and use the tablet much more.

Here's a list of wattages for other components: https://sonos.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/260/kw/standby%20power
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