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post #751 of 939
Apple TV.
post #752 of 939
I'm in a similar boat with an airport express and have been trying to figure out any benefit of getting sonos in there. What will it do the appletv won't?
post #753 of 939
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Originally Posted by Janibrewski View Post

Holy **** - SONOS where have you been all my life?

As someone who carries an iPad everywhere, and loves music and podcasts... I can't believe I am so late the the Sonos party!

Today I hooked up my first Sonos system - my small master bedroom now has a playbar, sub, and two play-1s as surround channels. It is phenomenal.

Now I'm hooked.

If I understand correctly, all I need is the Sonos Connect to hook my Living Room/HT setup into the Sonos world? Not quite as simple, as I'll still have to pick up the remote to turn things on, but still. I can't believe nobody told me about this earlier.

When you guys started, did you immediately want a Sonos (or two) in every room of your house?

yes you just need a connect and SPDIF optical to hookup to your AVR. I started with 2 zones, now have 7. Added them pretty quickly
post #754 of 939
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Originally Posted by ambesolman View Post

I'm in a similar boat with an airport express and have been trying to figure out any benefit of getting sonos in there. What will it do the appletv won't?

Cynically, there isn't a difference.

However, the subtle differences make each the right fit for the user. Personally, the one app (Sonos) that interfaces with my music system, music library, and music streaming services is more convenient. To do this from apps on the iOS devices you have to direct the app to stream to an Airplay compatible device.

The other feature is a separate music only wifi network created by the Sonos Devices. Sonos uses the "Bridge" to connect to the outside world.

A Sonos Connect Amp and set of speakers (Wall, ceiling or whatever) and an optional subwoofer is a custom home audio designers dream. For the rest of us, Sonos Play:1 speakers in each room will certainly entertain us all! Let me know when the party is!
post #755 of 939
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Originally Posted by ambesolman View Post

I'm in a similar boat with an airport express and have been trying to figure out any benefit of getting sonos in there. What will it do the appletv won't?

The AppleTV requires iTunes to be running somwhere on your network. Sonos can directly access your music where it is stored (i.e. your NAS). The lower price of the AppleTV is a huge attraction over the Sonos, but then you have to deal with iTunes; I hate iTunes.
post #756 of 939
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Originally Posted by oOOBillO0o View Post

Cynically, there isn't a difference.

However, the subtle differences make each the right fit for the user. Personally, the one app (Sonos) that interfaces with my music system, music library, and music streaming services is more convenient. To do this from apps on the iOS devices you have to direct the app to stream to an Airplay compatible device.

The other feature is a separate music only wifi network created by the Sonos Devices. Sonos uses the "Bridge" to connect to the outside world.

A Sonos Connect Amp and set of speakers (Wall, ceiling or whatever) and an optional subwoofer is a custom home audio designers dream. For the rest of us, Sonos Play:1 speakers in each room will certainly entertain us all! Let me know when the party is!

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Originally Posted by nirvana_av View Post

The AppleTV requires iTunes to be running somwhere on your network. Sonos can directly access your music where it is stored (i.e. your NAS). The lower price of the AppleTV is a huge attraction over the Sonos, but then you have to deal with iTunes; I hate iTunes.
Thanks for the help!
post #757 of 939
Just ordered my first sonos equipment. Picked up two Play 1's and a bridge to start. Looking forward to joining the fam!
post #758 of 939
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Originally Posted by Gujustud View Post

Just ordered my first sonos equipment. Picked up two Play 1's and a bridge to start. Looking forward to joining the fam!
Congrats. You'll love it
post #759 of 939
Yes, Janibrewski, I am sorry to tell you that you will soon buy 5 or 6 more Sonos units. I tried not to but couldn't
post #760 of 939
Thinking of getting the Sonos Playbar. While my TV has an optical output, I'm running into a different problem. i have a Sirius Satellite home Kit(Clarion Calypso) that I want to hook up to it. The calypso is currently hooked up to my vizio sound bar via RCA cables. Any advice? Thanks! FYI, I cannot access sirius on the net(i don't feel like paying for it). Thanks!
post #761 of 939
Would having multiple bridges ensure mesh coverage in the house? I just got my first Sonos:1 ( LOVE it ), and am trying to prioritize a connect vs another speaker while they have the free connect offering. I'm probably headed to a 2 connect / 2 speaker system in an only partially wired 2400 sq ft.

Thanks!




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post #762 of 939
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Originally Posted by highgrovemanor View Post

Would having multiple bridges ensure mesh coverage in the house? I just got my first Sonos:1 ( LOVE it ), and am trying to prioritize a connect vs another speaker while they have the free connect offering. I'm probably headed to a 2 connect / 2 speaker system in an only partially wired 2400 sq ft.

Thanks!




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I meant free bridge, obviously.
post #763 of 939
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Originally Posted by sandman512 View Post

Thinking of getting the Sonos Playbar. While my TV has an optical output, I'm running into a different problem. i have a Sirius Satellite home Kit(Clarion Calypso) that I want to hook up to it. The calypso is currently hooked up to my vizio sound bar via RCA cables. Any advice? Thanks! FYI, I cannot access sirius on the net(i don't feel like paying for it). Thanks!

Too easy, use the Sirius XM interface on the Sonos and stream from the internet!



but if you want to save money not spend on another subscription service, you have to get the Sonos Connect, and use the line in. :-( $350.

post #764 of 939
Thanks for the reply. Crazy as it sounds, I don't want to pay for the subscription service(they used to include it) anyway. Today, I picked up a Play 1 and free bridge, sounds great in the den. Streaming pandora as I type. Wish the sound bar had more inputs.
post #765 of 939
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Originally Posted by highgrovemanor View Post

Would having multiple bridges ensure mesh coverage in the house? I just got my first Sonos:1 ( LOVE it ), and am trying to prioritize a connect vs another speaker while they have the free connect offering. I'm probably headed to a 2 connect / 2 speaker system in an only partially wired 2400 sq ft.

Thanks!




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No need... I have a 4000 sq ft multistory home with the bridge in the basement.I have not run into any issues yet.
post #766 of 939
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Originally Posted by highgrovemanor View Post

I meant free bridge, obviously.

I used to have no bridges and it worked fine

......each unit you add--- makes the wireless network stronger as I understand it.


BTW--- I took a Play 5 outside and maybe 100 feet away from the house in a powered boat dock and it still worked fine.
post #767 of 939
I'm new to the whole Sonos thing. I plan on getting a Play 5 and a "Connect" for my main system. My question is, would I be able to stream lossless audio from my computer to my system with the connect? I was under the impression you needed HDMI for lossless audio and the connect only has an optical and coaxial output
post #768 of 939
The ‘lossless’ file formats carried via HDMI are associated with HD Video on a Blu-ray or similar.

Sonos supports the following ‘music’ audio formats - https://sonos.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/80/kw/format%20support/session/L3RpbWUvMTM4NjY3NjM1NC9zaWQvaG1FeDF0SGw%3D

Any Music files on your PC or NAS would be 'shared' with Sonos and Sonos would stream/decode them internally across your Network - you wouldn't decode in the PC and then Input as an external Source to the Zone Player.

If playing back a Movie on your PC you would connect the HDMI Out of the PC to an HDMI Equipped AVR for ‘Lossless’ HD audio playback – not via a Sonos Zone Player.

Joe
post #769 of 939
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Originally Posted by Blackdevil77 View Post

I'm new to the whole Sonos thing. I plan on getting a Play 5 and a "Connect" for my main system. My question is, would I be able to stream lossless audio from my computer to my system with the connect? I was under the impression you needed HDMI for lossless audio and the connect only has an optical and coaxial output

I stream Apple Lossless all the time
post #770 of 939
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Originally Posted by Joe Fernand View Post

The ‘lossless’ file formats carried via HDMI are associated with HD Video on a Blu-ray or similar.

Sonos supports the following ‘music’ audio formats - https://sonos.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/80/kw/format%20support/session/L3RpbWUvMTM4NjY3NjM1NC9zaWQvaG1FeDF0SGw%3D

Any Music files on your PC or NAS would be 'shared' with Sonos and Sonos would stream/decode them internally across your Network - you wouldn't decode in the PC and then Input as an external Source to the Zone Player.

If playing back a Movie on your PC you would connect the HDMI Out of the PC to an HDMI Equipped AVR for ‘Lossless’ HD audio playback – not via a Sonos Zone Player.

Joe

Thank you, this answers my question perfectly. Now one more question. Is coaxial or optical preferred? Or does it make no difference?
post #771 of 939
For Movie playback HDMI caters for everything up to and including Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio.

Optical and Coaxial will cater for the ‘lossy’ 5.1 DD and DTS formats – either or will generally do the trick, though some folk argue one is better than the other!

Joe
post #772 of 939
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Originally Posted by Blackdevil77 View Post

Thank you, this answers my question perfectly. Now one more question. Is coaxial or optical preferred? Or does it make no difference?

No difference whatsoever. I typically favor optical, as it's clear what's for (i.e. not for video, tv signal, etc.)
post #773 of 939
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Originally Posted by Joe Fernand View Post

For Movie playback HDMI caters for everything up to and including Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio.

Optical and Coaxial will cater for the ‘lossy’ 5.1 DD and DTS formats – either or will generally do the trick, though some folk argue one is better than the other!

Joe
Okay thankd. I'll only be streaming music with.

Also I found this on google. It seems to indicate that sonos is NOT compatible with lossless audio, even though on that list it said FLAC and ALAC are supported. Can someone clarify what this discussion is about then? Maybe I'm missing something.

https://ask.sonos.com/sonos/topics/support_high_resolution_flac_files_purchased_from_hdtracks_com
post #774 of 939
It depends on what bitrate you are streaming at. I am in the process of redoing my CD collection into FLAC at the standard CD bitrate and the results stream fine to my Play5s. They component's won't support files like those from HDTracks though encoded at higher bitrates.

See here: https://sonos.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/80/~/supported-audio-formats#var_f
post #775 of 939
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Originally Posted by Superman07 View Post

It depends on what bitrate you are streaming at. I am in the process of redoing my CD collection into FLAC at the standard CD bitrate and the results stream fine to my Play5s. They component's won't support files like those from HDTracks though encoded at higher bitrates.

See here: https://sonos.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/80/~/supported-audio-formats#var_f

+1, yep it's bit-rate related not lossy/lossless. Frankly unless you've got a very good ear and very expensive gear you won't hear the difference and most of the stuff purported to be HD is garbage. Some is worse than CD quality.

if you're ripping it yourself, you're likely starting with CD, so no point ripping higher than that

Read some of the posts here:

http://www.realhd-audio.com/?p=939
http://www.realhd-audio.com/?p=1574
http://www.realhd-audio.com/?p=1535
post #776 of 939
Thanks guys, that clears things up. Reason I'm asking is there are some releases that I can only find on HD tracks where the dynamic range on the recording is compressed due to the "loudness wars." Otherwise, CD quality is just fine. There are just waaay to many recordings done so poorly that it makes me not even want to listen to the songs. We need more recordings on CD done like the Dire Straits album.
post #777 of 939
‘We need more recordings on CD done like the Dire Straits album’ – you obviously never worked in a Hi-Fi store back in the 80’s

Hit play on Brothers in Arms and watch folk ‘twitch’ eek.gif

Joe
post #778 of 939
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Originally Posted by Joe Fernand View Post

‘We need more recordings on CD done like the Dire Straits album’ – you obviously never worked in a Hi-Fi store back in the 80’s

Hit play on Brothers in Arms and watch folk ‘twitch’ eek.gif

Joe

I did not. That would of been very difficult for me, since I was born in 89 lol.

Is there an appropriate category on these forums for talking about different albums and their sound quality?
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‘Is there an appropriate category on these forums for talking about different albums and their sound quality’ – that is a slippery slope to go down!

Lots of great ‘sounding’ albums can be painful to ‘listen’ too and conversely some really ‘crap’ sounding albums are fantastic to listen too!

Finding great music that is well recorded - now that is audio 'nirvana'.

http://www.avsforum.com/f/44/movies-concerts-and-music-discussion

Joe
post #780 of 939
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Originally Posted by Joe Fernand View Post

‘Is there an appropriate category on these forums for talking about different albums and their sound quality’ – that is a slippery slope to go down!

Lots of great ‘sounding’ albums can be painful to ‘listen’ too and conversely some really ‘crap’ sounding albums are fantastic to listen too!

Finding great music that is well recorded - now that is audio 'nirvana'.

http://www.avsforum.com/f/44/movies-concerts-and-music-discussion

Joe

That's the hard part!!! I can't find music I enjoy that is well recorded. Thanks for the link!
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