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post #61 of 69
Richum, my projector acts the same way, randomly.

It'll start out @ the highest fan speed (loud) for some time (say first half of a movie) and then it'll settle down. From then on I can barely hear it and I keep the projector in low lamp mode always.

I'm really curious to see if they fix yours. Thanks for the info.
post #62 of 69
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Originally Posted by jumbo11 View Post

Richum, my projector acts the same way, randomly.

It'll start out @ the highest fan speed (loud) for some time (say first half of a movie) and then it'll settle down. From then on I can barely hear it and I keep the projector in low lamp mode always.

I'm really curious to see if they fix yours. Thanks for the info.

We will see, if you want to get yours into Planar you should have no trouble.

I will be out the projector for some period of time, but I just felt like they should have the chance to make it right and they were not reluctant to do so. Shipping on them both ways and 2 day air seems like an honest effort to me.
post #63 of 69
First off let me say I have no issues regarding the performance of the projector. It throws a beautiful picture and is very quite except when you turn it off and it goes into the cool down mode. My issue is just using certain menu functions like deinterlacing and the fact in the status box it does not show the firmware version, it does show lamp hours and resolution and input. So my complaint has nothing to do with the overall performance because I am very happy it just the menu issue since I would like to know what firmware version I have.
post #64 of 69
Well, I've read every post in every Planar thread over the past six months, and have gathered what ppl are saying about calibrating the PD7150. Here is my summary:

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default cinema, low lamp mode and 6500k

Audioholics - All of our primary evaluations were done using the 3:2 pull down Film Mode 
with Video on film (VOF) set to 'On'.  ColorFacts Pro 6.0
        Sharpness Normal
        Gamma 2.2
        Color Temp 6500k
        Brightness spot on
        Contrast 11
        White Enhance On
        DCTI color edge enhancement 1 or 0, depending on whether it bothers, or pops.

Grayson73 - DVE
        White Enhance on
        Eco mode off
        Colors looking were spot on.
        Memory 1 (dark room):
                Gamma 2.2
                Brightness -2
                Contrast 9
        Memory 2 (ambient light):
                Gamma 1.5 (I found 1.0 to be too washed out colorwise)
                Brightness -4
                Contrast 9

E-A-G-L-E-S
        ~N8.6 light grey screen.(Cream $ Sugar)
        No ambient light, but all my walls are off-white.
        Brightness -2
        Contrast +12
        R Gain & Offset -1
        B Gain & Offset +1
        G Gain & Offset -2
        Gamma 2.2
        Sharpness - Normal
        Eco lamp

tonywood
        White Enhance ON (for best lightout and contrast?) boost contast and lumens output
        (crushing?) DCTI 1 (enhances color?) Digital Chroma Transient Improvement - enhanced
        color and sharpness per pixelworks document Contrast 10 (without crushing white?)
        Sharpness Sharp

krasmuzik
        White Enhance off
        DCTI 0 - edge enhancement for color.  Look for ringing of color edges
First of all, what does "default cinema" mean? I can't find a cinema setting in the projector. Second, am I right that we have no Interlace setting when running HDMI, so can not set DCTI? And what is Video on film? Is this a setting in ColorFacts?

I've derived the consensus settings:
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        Color Temp 6500k
        Gamma 2.2
        Sharpness Normal
        Brightness spot on
        Contrast 11
        White Enhance On
... and the result does not look natural to me. I try to say that I am just not used to it, but I am used to what looks natural and this doesn't. I don't have any sort of calibration software or equipment, and going by consensus or most credible adjustments has always worked for me in the past. I don't want it to look like a 'TV picture', I want it to look normal.

White Enhance - When on, this fairly shrieks at me. I have a formica screen that's Ice White, which is just a hair grayer than white. I'm thinking about painting Black Widow, and don't know whether this would be an improvement, or too dark. This screen has done me very well for three years giving a 10' presentation with dim projectors.

Contrast - Last week's Saturday Night Live where the intro interviewed "Dick Cheney" was HD and two people on a black background. Definitely too much contrast in the colors, and when I cranked it down to 5 it was better, but still something was wrong.

Brightness - When the Sun shining off ppl's bald head is blazing white, something's wrong. And blacks had lots of mosquito noise, so I followed this advice:
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Originally Posted by Skypalace View Post

Show any true black (black bars, black screen, whatever, just needs to be a reasonable area of the screen that's supposed to be full black), and go up close to the screen and see if there is dithering (moving white speckling). Then knock Brightness down until the dithering stops and you have full black. This will be clear - one notch too high and it's dithering, knock it down one more and it completely stops.
For almost all modes and inputs on my 7130, this is at -14 Brightness. I haven't messed with other settings (yet), but this very clearly improves black levels.

Yes and for me this was -11. Much more 3D than it had been, and bald heads looked better, although darker areas seemed crushed. Maybe my contrast is still too high at 5?

And there is still an unnatural quality that I can't put my finger on, like colors are too saturated maybe. Can anyone advise?

And finally, I too have the vacuum-cleaner fan for the first 40 minutes it's on. Has anyone determined a fix yet? This is noticeable even with the show's sound on.
post #65 of 69
OK, now it's much better. I cranked Contrast back to 0 and Brightness down to -11, and aerial shots are spectacular. People look fairly normal and 3D, although color still seems a bit oversaturated. But, pretty close.

So from the consensus settings I've reversed Brightness and Contrast settings, and turned White Enhance off.
post #66 of 69
quantumstate I've tried your setting and WOW. The picture quality was better than I had it before. My previous setting was brightness -4, contrast +9 with white on. Your settings have richer colors and a 3D pop to the image. I was watching Vicky Cristina Barcelona and half way thru the movie I've changed to your setting. Even my wife could see the difference (which says a lot).
BTW I believe my screen is similar to yours, its the one that you purchase in Home Depot and hang on the wall. Thanks for sharing your settings. I recommend others to try it, especially at night or low ambient conditions.
post #67 of 69
Well done, good to know. I am very happy with contrast 0, WhiteEnhance Off, and Brightness -11. Saved it in Memory 1.

Ya, I have a sheet of formica ('Ice White') from Home Depot ($74), but am interested in the screen paint "Black Widow". When I get time I'll research it. My screen is 110" diagonal, and since I have so much spare brightness in the PJ I may get a larger sheet of formica for a 16' screen, or whatever I can get at 14.5' away. For the frame I'm using 4" baseboard, with black felt spray-glued to it, and velcroed to the formica; actually pretty classy looking.

On another subject, I've just figured out how to make my case display work simultaneous to the projector, from one video card. (Linux) I'll probably run two instances of conky (system monitor) side-by-side with different system info.
post #68 of 69
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Originally Posted by quantumstate View Post

Well done, good to know. I am very happy with contrast 0, WhiteEnhance Off, and Brightness -11. Saved it in Memory 1.

Ya, I have a sheet of formica ('Ice White') from Home Depot ($74), but am interested in the screen paint "Black Widow". When I get time I'll research it. My screen is 110" diagonal, and since I have so much spare brightness in the PJ I may get a larger sheet of formica for a 16' screen, or whatever I can get at 14.5' away. For the frame I'm using 4" baseboard, with black felt spray-glued to it, and velcroed to the formica; actually pretty classy looking.

On another subject, I've just figured out how to make my case display work simultaneous to the projector, from one video card. (Linux) I'll probably run two instances of conky (system monitor) side-by-side with different system info.

Are you also using Econo mode on? That is what i have. The full power adds too much noise to my taste.
post #69 of 69
Yes using Eco mode.

But you know I recently had my 7150 swapped out because of the startup problem, where the lamp has to strike like 10 times to get going. Works great now, but my above settings look awful on this new 7150; way too dark.

Ran a new cal, and it looks best with Brightness +10, contrast 0, WhiteEnhance Off, Temp 6500, Gamma 2.2, and Eco Mode. Odd that two of the same model projectors require such disparate settings. The new one has a newer P/N (997-3388-00), and it may have slightly different internals.

Picture is fine, but I am noticing though that with these new settings my blacker-than-black areas are gray. Maybe Gamma needs adjusting.
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