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post #1141 of 14894
Apologies if this has been answered previously but, can the 35 or 55 play recordable Blu Ray discs?
I'm still waiting for them to come back into stock in the UK, so i'm trying to find ways of justifying the wait.
I could just go out and buy a Samsung 1500 or the like, but I like the reports on the Panasonic thus far.

Regards,

Whammer
post #1142 of 14894
So as far as pic Q goes for Blu-ray playback is their not a difference between the 35 and 55?
post #1143 of 14894
This review talks about some of the setup tricks mentioned throughout the thread: http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/blu...sc-player.html
post #1144 of 14894
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Originally Posted by Ken Ross View Post

According to Sound & Vision, the BD55 powers up AND loads a BD disc in 15 seconds! Are you guys seeing that kind of load time??? Almost impossible to believe.

This review has further explained load times for different media and total boot time for the machine. It too has quite a few setup tips for the audio section. http://www.bigpicturebigsound.com/Pa...y_Player.shtml
post #1145 of 14894
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Originally Posted by marshallmedia View Post

To Sourbeef: I think the question asked earlier which has yet gone unanswered was: on the BD35 (NOT the 55), can you go into the menu and change speaker output from 7.1 to 5.1 (for those of us with 5.1 HDMI receivers)? On the BD 55 you can... but can you do it on the 35? The concern is whether the BD 35 drops the two extra surrounds going into a 5.1 receiver (not a good thing) or does it fold them / mix them into the rear surrounds? Could someone power up a 35, check the menus, and give us a shout? Thanks!

Yea, there's nothing like that in the BD35.
post #1146 of 14894
My router is one floor above my home theater system. I want the connection
for firmware updates, not necessarily for BD Live. Whether I run a LAN cable through the walls (virtually impossible) or temporarily down the stairs, the LAN cable run will be 40 feet. The temporary route would require me to down load updates manually.

Any suggestions how to avoid this.
post #1147 of 14894
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Originally Posted by joerod View Post

So as far as pic Q goes for Blu-ray playback is their not a difference between the 35 and 55?

None.
post #1148 of 14894
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Originally Posted by dinotoad View Post

I am trying to get my 55 to connect to the internet.
I did install and format a 1G SD card, in case that helps.
I have the 55 connected direct via ethernet to my Linksys WRT-54. It fails to connect. I can plug a PC in and it connects fine. Any tips? I don't see why I should have to change any defaults. I have DHCP enabled and I have plenty of available addresses. I am not filtering via MAC addesss.
Any ideas?

I just connected my 35 to the internet via my WRT-54 last night.
It worked with default settings.
You went into SETUP and to the Network, Test Connection page on your 55?
You formatted the SD card, did you format it using the 55?

Also, try rebooting your router.
post #1149 of 14894
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Originally Posted by twwilliam View Post

My router is one floor above my home theater system. I want the connection
for firmware updates, not necessarily for BD Live. Whether I run a LAN cable through the walls (virtually impossible) or temporarily down the stairs, the LAN cable run will be 40 feet. The temporary route would require me to down load updates manually.
Any suggestions how to avoid this.

You'd probably be able to download the updates and burn them to disc for install.
Even though the Toshiba HD-DVD players had an ethernet port from the get-go, Toshiba always sent out firmware update disks automatically to us by mail.
I think in the long run, it may be worth your while to install a Lan connection behind your HT, for the day when BD Live has compelling content.
Perhaps think about installing a wireless network.
post #1150 of 14894
My BD35 is still not connecting. On Transformers it downloads. On the Starship Troopers it downloads ebough to show the BD Live menu, but the content is missing that shouldbe on that page and in the top left it says "BD LIve disconnected"
It's definitely downloading something, just not everything it should. the same discs are working on the PS3. I guess I'm going to have to go and exhcange my BD35 at Circuit City. that's what I get, I usually have problems from the products I get at Circuit City for some reason.
post #1151 of 14894
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Originally Posted by twwilliam View Post

My router is one floor above my home theater system. I want the connection
for firmware updates, not necessarily for BD Live. Whether I run a LAN cable through the walls (virtually impossible) or temporarily down the stairs, the LAN cable run will be 40 feet. The temporary route would require me to down load updates manually.

Any suggestions how to avoid this.

I have 4 components in the living room and another 3 in the basement that need an ethernet connection, 70-year-old construction with lathe and plaster walls make snaking through the walls a challenge. I opted for powerline networking from Corinex. Much faster than Wifi, it uses your house's power line for networking. You literally plug one adapter in at the router, and another end in at the component and it just works like a standard ethernet cable. 1 adapter becomes the master and the rest become slaves, so to split out my network to two additional rooms only required 3 adapters.

I then use simple (and cheap) network switches in the basement and living room to split this signal out to the various components. For the most part, this works perfectly, but the network switch in the basement has been a little flakier than the one in the living room. I was able to get the BD55 up and running upstairs using DHCP, but for downstairs I did have to assign a static IP address in the network set-up in order to get the connection to work. Not that difficult really, just pick an IP address within range of your router, set sub-net mask (usually 255.255.255.0), gateway (the router's IP address), and a primary and secondary DNS (available in your router's status screen) and I was in business. For anyone who can't get their DHCP network connection to work, try a static IP and you may have better luck.

But again, this was not a shortcoming of the BD55 as it worked fine with DHCP with a different network switch.

-CB
post #1152 of 14894
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Originally Posted by Islanti View Post

In my setup these are active, which is consistent with the 6/7.1 reading on the receiver. I verified the output from the Surround and Back speakers were different.

Interesting, so maybe it *IS* receiver-specific? I'll have to take this Pioneer VSX-T94XH out of the box and see if it's any different. Ah, well, I've been needing to hook up the new Aperion Audio speakers for a review too, so maybe that will be the rest of my weekend? Might be a little more scarce around here, guys... back to work...

-CB
post #1153 of 14894
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Originally Posted by rover1 View Post

Islanti, I too have a Marantz SR7002 and when I send the Hi Def Codecs PCM my amp shows mutli channel 5.1 not 7.1, is there something I am doing wrong?

Only DTS-HD is converted to 7.1. Dolby TrueHD and PCM are passed through as they appear on the disc. If you were watching a TrueHD movie, chances are it was 5.1, because only "Nightmare Before XMas" is 7.1 TrueHD. Most PCM titles are also 5.1 and will be passed to your receiver as is.

-CB
post #1154 of 14894
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Originally Posted by boylan13 View Post

I have 4 components in the living room and another 3 in the basement that need an ethernet connection, 70-year-old construction with lathe and please walls make snaking through the walls a challenge. I opted for powerline networking from Corinex. Much faster than Wifi, it uses your house's power line for networking. You literally plug one adapter in at the router, and another end in at the component and it just works like a standard ethernet cable. 1 adapter becomes the master and the rest become slaves, so to split out my network to two additional rooms only required 3 adapters.

I then use simple (and cheap) network switches in the basement and living room to split this signal out to the various components. For the most part, this works perfectly, but the network switch in the basement has been a little flakier than the one in the living room. I was able to get the BD55 up and running upstairs using DHCP, but for downstairs I did have to assign a static IP address in the network set-up in order to get the connection to work. Not that difficult really, just pick an IP address within range of your router, set sub-net mask (usually 255.255.255.0), gateway (the router's IP address), and a primary and secondary DNS (available in your router's status screen) and I was in business. For anyone who can't get their HDCP network connection to work, try a static IP and you may have better luck.

But again, this was not a shortcoming of the BD55 as it worked fine with DHCP with a different network switch.

-CB

Chris,
I must thank you so much for your info on the new Panny's. I got a super deal on the 55 thanks to a poster on the best deals thread. I went through the simple setup so we can watch the movie Clover field which I hope is OK.
I couldn't find the speaker setup yet, but I did set it to 5.1 and I still have the sound on my HDMI TV.
Thanks again for your time. A lot of us appreciate it.
post #1155 of 14894
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Originally Posted by Krayg View Post

As another helpful member told me earlier, you have to turn the screensaver off. This will create black bars instead of gray. It says so right in the manual, which I neglected to thoroughly read

wow, thanks a lot, i see it now, that's an awfully strange place to find it though, you'd have to really really go through it with a fine toothed comb or accidentally stumble on it to find it!
post #1156 of 14894
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Originally Posted by Ken Ross View Post

According to Sound & Vision, the BD55 powers up AND loads a BD disc in 15 seconds! Are you guys seeing that kind of load time??? Almost impossible to believe.

More like 33 seconds for a non-Java Blu-ray disc from off to first disc screen. Once the unit is already powered up, I measured 20 seconds to load a non-Java disc, and 45 seconds to load POTC:COTBP, which is a BD Java title. My measurements are all to the first content screen on the disc loading, after any BD Java loading messages.

It's definitely faster than the BD30 and BD50 were.

-CB
post #1157 of 14894
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Originally Posted by jimim View Post

Just a sidenote here also. I have a Marantz 8002 which is pretty much the same. I was setting up my levels via the avia test disk before. Something I noticed. If I set the panny 35 to bitstream vs PCM the channels levels are 4-5 db lower in PCM. They all remain balanced from channel to channel, but they are just lower across the board for PCM. Just a FYI if anyone thinks things sound a little lower with if they switch from BS to PCM.

Also. . . .I have a 5.1 setup anyone have a deff answer what is going on with Bitstreamed or PCM 7.1 content over a 5.1 setup (but the receiver is 7.1 capable). . . .is the info merged or is it deleted for the other 2 channels?

thanks,
jim

I Notice this with the ps3. watching a dvd when i switch from pcm out to bitstream, the bit stream is louder. This is something you can do on the fly with the ps3.
post #1158 of 14894
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Originally Posted by slogun View Post

I just connected my 35 to the internet via my WRT-54 last night.
It worked with default settings.
You went into SETUP and to the Network, Test Connection page on your 55?
You formatted the SD card, did you format it using the 55?

Also, try rebooting your router.

All good ideas. But I have already tried them all and they did not work....
post #1159 of 14894
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Originally Posted by boylan13 View Post

I have 4 components in the living room and another 3 in the basement that need an ethernet connection, 70-year-old construction with lathe and please walls make snaking through the walls a challenge. I opted for powerline networking from Corinex. Much faster than Wifi, it uses your house's power line for networking. You literally plug one adapter in at the router, and another end in at the component and it just works like a standard ethernet cable. 1 adapter becomes the master and the rest become slaves, so to split out my network to two additional rooms only required 3 adapters.

I then use simple (and cheap) network switches in the basement and living room to split this signal out to the various components. For the most part, this works perfectly, but the network switch in the basement has been a little flakier than the one in the living room. I was able to get the BD55 up and running upstairs using DHCP, but for downstairs I did have to assign a static IP address in the network set-up in order to get the connection to work. Not that difficult really, just pick an IP address within range of your router, set sub-net mask (usually 255.255.255.0), gateway (the router's IP address), and a primary and secondary DNS (available in your router's status screen) and I was in business. For anyone who can't get their HDCP network connection to work, try a static IP and you may have better luck.

But again, this was not a shortcoming of the BD55 as it worked fine with DHCP with a different network switch.

-CB

The static IP worked for me. I don't know why DHCP did not work but I am up now.

Thanks!
post #1160 of 14894
anyone who has bought a bd35 quite recently gotten in on the 2 free movies?

http://www.panasonicsleepingbeauty.com/

that's the site, but it seems to either be down, or gone altogether.

i was really hoping to get a couple free movies since BD's are god awful expensive and nightmare before christmas is a classic.
post #1161 of 14894
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Originally Posted by dinotoad View Post

The static IP worked for me. I don't know why DHCP did not work but I am up now.

Thanks!

OK, just for thrills I updated the firmware on my WRT-54G and now DHCP works.
post #1162 of 14894
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Originally Posted by LarryChanin View Post

Hi Peter,

I hope you are correct, but do you have a source other than the vaguely written note #4 on page 8 of the owner's manual to support your belief that the player matrixes dts-MA 5.1 content to 7.1?

Just as an interesting aside, if matrix decoding is used to extract surround back channels from the side surrounds, then wouldn't all four surround channels no longer be lossless, since the processing would have modified the original lossless side surrounds as well as creating the new lossy matrixed surround back channels? (I should add that personally I would prefer a matrixed approach, where the in-phase content is extracted from the sides and routed to the backs, rather than duplication, even if the sides were rendered no longer lossless.)

Hi Larry, not sure if you are referring to me...

I've tested several discs tonight and what I said before seems to hold true, that the newer DTS 5.1 (and presumably 6.1) formats output as 7.1, and Dolby/PCM 5.1 stay as-is. I can't be sure if it's matrixed or duplicated, but since the manual does not specifically state matrix processing is involved and instead uses the term "amplified" ... I think it's duplication.

On a side note, I tested several DVDs that were DTS 5.1 and DTS 6.1 ES, they all outputted 5.1 with the surround back channels remaining silent (even for the 6.1 ES discs ).
post #1163 of 14894
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

My BD35 is still not connecting. On Transformers it downloads. On the Starship Troopers it downloads ebough to show the BD Live menu, but the content is missing that shouldbe on that page and in the top left it says "BD LIve disconnected"
It's definitely downloading something, just not everything it should. the same discs are working on the PS3. I guess I'm going to have to go and exhcange my BD35 at Circuit City. that's what I get, I usually have problems from the products I get at Circuit City for some reason.

Did you go into the BD35 set-up menu under "Disc" and switch the default BD-Live setting from "Allow (limited)" to "Allow (All)?" Might be necessary for these titles.

-CB
post #1164 of 14894
Here is a strange one, perhaps someone can explain this anomaly. I am watching Gladiator in SD DVD. System is 7.1 and audio on DVD is set to 7.1 ES. Using analog outputs from 55, I only get 5.1 channels. If I use optical bitstream, I get all 7.1 channels and processor indicates 7.1 ES being decoded. I have secondary audio turned off. Ideas?

Edit to add answer: I just found on page 8 of the manual the chart that shows that with analog out, with SD DVD in DTS-ES it only outputs 5.1. Good thing this player can output both bitstream and analog at the same time.
post #1165 of 14894
When do you guys think we'll start seeing the 35 with some reasonable discounts? IE in the 250 to 265 range and/or with a title or two?
post #1166 of 14894
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Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95 View Post

When do you guys think we'll start seeing the 35 with some reasonable discounts? IE in the 250 to 265 range and/or with a title or two?


The 35 is already selling for $2xx through the EPP program (an employer discount program that many of us have through our workplace). You need to visit the pricing thread, as that is the only place pricing should be discussed.
post #1167 of 14894
The EPP is great thing until they close it due to abuse..

Anyway, great info in this thread. Waiting to pick up my 55.
post #1168 of 14894
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Originally Posted by Brandito View Post

anyone who has bought a bd35 quite recently gotten in on the 2 free movies?

http://www.panasonicsleepingbeauty.com/

that's the site, but it seems to either be down, or gone altogether.

i was really hoping to get a couple free movies since BD's are god awful expensive and nightmare before christmas is a classic.

I'm in! I hope they come.
Nightmare is also good as a rare example of 7.1 sound!
post #1169 of 14894
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Originally Posted by NMJack View Post

The 35 is already selling for $2xx through the EPP program (an employer discount program that many of us have through our workplace). You need to visit the pricing thread, as that is the only place pricing should be discussed.

My employer doesn't get an EPP through panasonic, buddy of mine does he said I could use his ID but quite frankly I do not want to do that because it's dishonest
post #1170 of 14894
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Originally Posted by slogun View Post

I'm in! I hope they come.
Nightmare is also good as a rare example of 7.1 sound!

do you happen to still have the pdf? the site is down and i believe all i need is the pdf file so i can print out the form and send it in.
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