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post #12001 of 14978
"Get over it."

Get over what Gary?

The guy knows, of his own admission, very little about network setups.

Just what is it I'm suppose to get over?

You have a hair up you back side Gary? Sure seems like it.
post #12002 of 14978
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Originally Posted by jsmiddleton4 View Post

You have a hair up you back side Gary? Sure seems like it.

Looked like a rabbit to me.
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Hi, I programed in my 35 into my Harmony 550 and found that the codes for top menu, pop up menu, sub menu, status and set up are not there. Before I call Logitech, does anyone know why they are missing? I tried searching but could not find anything. Much thanks!
post #12004 of 14978
If you have the original remote, you can teach your Harmony configuration the missing codes. I've had to add a few "missing" codes for most of my devices.

Another possibility is that the "missing" codes are really in the database, but with names that don't match the ones on the original remote. In that case you can assign them to more appropriate buttons on the Harmony, or assign them to "soft keys" on the LCD screen with more appropriate names.

Looking at my Harmony configuration, I see that I had to teach it many of the codes for my BD35. Looks like the standard configuation has improved since then.

I think the basic problem is that device configurations in the Harmony database don't come from "official" sources, but instead from users, who often overlook some keys or simply don't bother with adding them if they don't use those keys themselves.
post #12005 of 14978
Thanks for your reply. I can certainly teach it new codes through the ir learning process, I just figured there must be a better way. That is silly to be dependent on users like that but at the same time, I wonder why they do not have those codes as they are important buttons . I think I shall call Logitech and see what they have to say. I think it is a disgraceful situation. Anyway, I shall report any results back here .
post #12006 of 14978
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Originally Posted by yasdaz View Post

Hi, I programed in my 35 into my Harmony 550 and found that the codes for top menu, pop up menu, sub menu, status and set up are not there. Before I call Logitech, does anyone know why they are missing? I tried searching but could not find anything. Much thanks!

I would recommend using the database entry for the 55...it's more complete....
the status and popupmenu commands are in the database for the 55

memory is failing me at the moment, but there are a couple of other commands that were in the database for the 55 and not the 35...no idea why...but all the commands are the same, so even if you have the 35, feel free to set it up as the 55
post #12007 of 14978
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Originally Posted by BIslander View Post

As others have noted, you can't get multichannel lossless from a BD35 without HDMI. But, the legacy DTS core and embedded DD 5.1 tracks on BD are less compressed than the versions on DVD and sound great, often as good as lossless. So, you'll still get excellent sound using an optical connection to your receiver.

I agree.

I'll probably get ripped for this, but I have a BD55, and have it hooked up via analogs as well as coax. My wife was always yelling at me because before watching a movie, I'd always go into setup and turn HDMI off, to get lossless through my non HDMI receiver. Keeping HDMI off fulltime is not an option, because the kids watch movies without the AVR on.

So, on occasion, I'd listen to the high bit lossy (and hitting mute on the TV), and to be quite honest, I don't hear much difference, most likely because my stuff is middle of the road, and not ultra-expensive. Lately, I haven't even bothered using analog. I wish I'd heard the difference for myself prior to my purchase, I could have saved myself a few bucks.

So for you guys who have the BD35 and a non-HDMI receiver, don't sweat it, the sound is still incredible going through optical connections.

Ok, bash away..........
post #12008 of 14978
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Originally Posted by dsskid View Post

I have a BD55, and have it hooked up via analogs as well as coax. My wife was always yelling at me because before watching a movie, I'd always go into setup and turn HDMI off, to get lossless through my non HDMI receiver. Keeping HDMI off fulltime is not an option, because the kids watch movies without the AVR on.

Are you sure you need to turn off HDMI audio? I have my BD55 hooked up via HDMI to a Panasonic plasma and I leave HDMI turned on. Despite the warnings in the manual, the HDMI handshake with my TV does not seem to affect the other audio outputs. I get 5.1 over analog and bitstream over coax.

Depending on your TV, you may also be able to run a stereo pair to the television and use that for audio. Most TVs have at least one HDMI input with an associated analog audio input to accomodate DVI devices. (I'm assuming you have a 5.1 system and can use the analog stereo outputs. In a 7.1 system, those outputs would not be available.)

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So, on occasion, I'd listen to the high bit lossy (and hitting mute on the TV), and to be quite honest, I don't hear much difference, most likely because my stuff is middle of the road, and not ultra-expensive. Lately, I haven't even bothered using analog. I wish I'd heard the difference for myself prior to my purchase, I could have saved myself a few bucks.

I don't think the quality of the equipment is a big factor when it comes to hearing differences between max bitrate lossy encodes and lossless. I've never seen a credible explanation of why that would be the case.
post #12009 of 14978
Just for conversation sake, I'm using a Harmony 670 (one of the "cheap" ones). The database stuff for the BD35 is all there & all BD35 functions are present on the 670. Did not have to do anything beyond the normal PC/online setup.
post #12010 of 14978
Does anyone know if these players have problems with the seamless branching of the new Star Trek S1 Blu-ray set?
post #12011 of 14978
No problems here - running 1.7 firmware on my BD55, but I'm only watching the remastered episodes - finished the first disc.
post #12012 of 14978
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Does anyone know if these players have problems with the seamless branching of the new Star Trek S1 Blu-ray set?

I can push "Angle" 'til my hand aches, but no seamless here.
post #12013 of 14978
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Originally Posted by jwebb1970 View Post

Just for conversation sake, I'm using a Harmony 670 (one of the "cheap" ones). The database stuff for the BD35 is all there & all BD35 functions are present on the 670. Did not have to do anything beyond the normal PC/online setup.

Same here, BUT... I found a few commands in the database that did not function correctly and needed to be learned from the OE remote... "Top Menu/Direct Navigator" and "Pop-Up Menu" in particular come to mind. PIP, Secondary Audio and BD/SD were either missing or didn't function correctly as well.
post #12014 of 14978
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Originally Posted by jcalabria View Post

Same here, BUT... I found a few commands in the database that did not function correctly and needed to be learned from the OE remote... "Top Menu/Direct Navigator" and "Pop-Up Menu" in particular come to mind. PIP, Secondary Audio and BD/SD were either missing or didn't function correctly as well.

even in the profile for the 55 I had to learn the BD/SD and PIP commands...pretty sure secondary audio was there
post #12015 of 14978
I am confused. Why would someone report the buttons on their harmony and then others not? That does not make sense. The database should be the same across all remotes, surely. Well, I don't know what to do. I shall change the device to the 55, other than that I am screwed. Also, I can't phone Harmony anymore, they no longer have support. I have emailed but how can they fix this by email? I think I bought the remote for it's support (it costs enough) and will not do so again. Also, why was my thread moved into this big, humongous one? I do not appreciate it, mods. It gets lost in here. Finally, I don't know where to put this as apparently we can't start our own threads so it has to go into this overcrowded one, I have noticed on the manuals that the bd 60 supports pal (am assuming the 35 does not). Nice feature when there will be more no region or all region blu ray discs coming. Thanks, everyone.
post #12016 of 14978
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Originally Posted by yasdaz View Post

Hi, I programed in my 35 into my Harmony 550 and found that the codes for top menu, pop up menu, sub menu, status and set up are not there. Before I call Logitech, does anyone know why they are missing? I tried searching but could not find anything. Much thanks!

I have a Panasonic BD 35 and the Harmony 880. I programed it with the PC and have had no problems with it controlling the BD 35. The top menus and buttons all work. I have had the BD 35 sense Dec 08 and programed it than, I did have to email teck support on a HDMI hand shake problem. But Harmony told me how to delay the time when TV, AV and BD player came on, so that they had time to do the hand shake. I have sense adjusted the time to start faster than the setting they give me and it still works.

When I emailed them they make some changes to the setting and told me to rerun the setup. They had 1500MS delay between when TV came on and AV. I have shortened that to 600ms. I have been very happy with the Harmony as my wife could not figure out how to use the remotes that came with the TV, AV, DirecTV and my two HD playes. So I needed one controller to do it all, it still took a while to teach her how to use it but learning carve was faster than trying to use the manufacture supplied remotes.
post #12017 of 14978
Well, I had to "learn" about 5 codes and that was with the 55 codes, the 35 was even worse. And, you can no longer talk to Logitec, they only have 60 days before they cut off phone contact. Without the phone contact, I can't get the codes I want programmed into their database. I have emailed them so we shall see. I am just so angry that they no longer provide customer support (anyone who thinks emails work in these situations, hasn't had to write email after email trying to explain something complicated). I will certainly never buy one of their remotes again unless they change that. Anyone else have any ideas why some remotes have complete codes while others don't? Just to give one example already mentioned, does everyone who had complete codes have pip right off the bat? Much thanks
post #12018 of 14978
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Originally Posted by yasdaz View Post

Well, I had to "learn" about 5 codes and that was with the 55 codes, the 35 was even worse. And, you can no longer talk to Logitec, they only have 60 days before they cut off phone contact. Without the phone contact, I can't get the codes I want programmed into their database. I have emailed them so we shall see. I am just so angry that they no longer provide customer support (anyone who thinks emails work in these situations, hasn't had to write email after email trying to explain something complicated). I will certainly never buy one of their remotes again unless they change that. Anyone else have any ideas why some remotes have complete codes while others don't? Just to give one example already mentioned, does everyone who had complete codes have pip right off the bat? Much thanks

Just the other day I emailed a set of about 20 Onkyo receiver discrete codes and they had them added in about 4 hours... I thought that was pretty good service. I use email support even when phone support is available... I find it easier to explain what I want without somebody trying to twist it in some other direction on me.

Any missing/inoperative codes I had for my 35 I was able to learn from the OE remote in about 5 minutes... are you referring to the 35/55 when needing Logitech support to add commands?

The only real disappointment I have had, and I really do not know if this is a limitation of the Panasonic alternate code sets or a deficiency in the Harmony database, but I have not been able to get discrete power codes for the alternate code sets. The discrete power codes can obviously not be learned from the OE remote. This has been an annoyance for me because I have had at least two Panny DVD/DVR/BD units in my system for some time, but shouldn't be an issue for anyone with just one Panasonic disc player.
post #12019 of 14978
Hi, well, thanks, that gives me hope that maybe email won't be as bad as it has been in other places . Yes, I am referring to 35/55 and, as I said, I had to input about 5 codes from the original remote. The weird part is that some of you are reporting that the codes were there so it is a mystery. I also am perplexed that Harmony does not have these codes even after the 35/55 is no longer available for sale; I believe they are usually much more efficient at organizing their database. Well, I will report back when they get back to me by email. By the way, how do you email codes to Logitech? Are you talking about the long string of numbers that I have sometimes seen, hex codes, I believe? If so, how do you get those numbers (I would love to email them to Logitech)? Much thanks
post #12020 of 14978
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Originally Posted by jcalabria View Post

The only real disappointment I have had, and I really do not know if this is a limitation of the Panasonic alternate code sets or a deficiency in the Harmony database, but I have not been able to get discrete power codes for the alternate code sets. The discrete power codes can obviously not be learned from the OE remote. This has been an annoyance for me because I have had at least two Panny DVD/DVR/BD units in my system for some time, but shouldn't be an issue for anyone with just one Panasonic disc player.

Without going into the gory details too much, there are utilities over at RemoteCentral.com that allow one to analyze and generate hex codes. I had the same problem as you described (a Panasonic DVD-S97 and a Panasonic DMP-BD55 in the same system), so I changed the code set on the BD55 to "2" and generated new discrete on/off hex codes for my Pronto. Again, these are for code set #2:

Discrete Power On:
0000 0070 0000 0032 0080 0040 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0ace

Discrete Power Off:
0000 0070 0000 0032 0080 0040 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0ace

These codes are easily added to a Pronto configuration, but since the Logitech software is so restrictive and does not allow direct hex code entry I'm not sure how you will be able to add these. Maybe if you email the codes to Logitech support they will add them to their database.

Brian
post #12021 of 14978
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Originally Posted by Brian A View Post

Without going into the gory details too much, there are utilities over at RemoteCentral.com that allow one to analyze and generate hex codes. I had the same problem as you described (a Panasonic DVD-S97 and a Panasonic DMP-BD55 in the same system), so I changed the code set on the BD55 to "2" and generated new discrete on/off hex codes for my Pronto. Again, these are for code set #2:

Discrete Power On:
0000 0070 0000 0032 0080 0040 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0ace

Discrete Power Off:
0000 0070 0000 0032 0080 0040 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0030 0010 0010 0010 0010 0010 0030 0010 0ace

These codes are easily added to a Pronto configuration, but since the Logitech software is so restrictive and does not allow direct hex code entry I'm not sure how you will be able to add these. Maybe if you email the codes to Logitech support they will add them to their database.

Brian

I would just email those codes to Logitech and they take care of it... but I had some that I pulled from Remote Central in the past and they did not work. I will compare these to the ones I tried... if different I will give them a whirl. Thanks!

Since I use it less, I have the DMR-E85H on code set 2, but if it works it should work for either the DVR or BD unit.

The Onkyo codes that I referred to were in the exact same format and came from an official Onkyo document. Logitech is pretty good about adding stuff like that to your account. They had about 20 commands added to my account in only a few hours. However, they usually will not add them to the general database unless they have multiple independent confirmations that they work. Not sure exactly how that happens.
post #12022 of 14978
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Originally Posted by yasdaz View Post

Hi, well, thanks, that gives me hope that maybe email won't be as bad as it has been in other places . Yes, I am referring to 35/55 and, as I said, I had to input about 5 codes from the original remote. The weird part is that some of you are reporting that the codes were there so it is a mystery. I also am perplexed that Harmony does not have these codes even after the 35/55 is no longer available for sale; I believe they are usually much more efficient at organizing their database. Well, I will report back when they get back to me by email. By the way, how do you email codes to Logitech? Are you talking about the long string of numbers that I have sometimes seen, hex codes, I believe? If so, how do you get those numbers (I would love to email them to Logitech)? Much thanks

Good luck getting it set up.

I to like using email for teck support as I hate trying to get though on those auto answer phone support system like DirecTv uses.

I recently had my Dtv receiver fail and had to use phone support to get a replacement from Directv. Than after getting the new one it took five more calls to get it working and all the channels back that I am suppose to get. Plus they charged me $19.95 shipping, I told them that the old receiver ran so hot that you could not put anything on top of the entertainment center. like a candy bar unless you wanted melted candy. Could make smores bars without stove or campfire. LOL I had five inches between it and top of center. The receiver was this hot even when turned off or stand by as they call off. The new one is no where as hot and doesn't even have a cooling fan like old one. New one is HD H21-100 old one was HD H20-100.
post #12023 of 14978
I recently discovered a shortcut to get the BD55 to come on and open the tray with only one command. I have a programmable remote that turns on the entire HT for a movie. Since the BD55 takes so long to boot, it is a long time before the player is ready to accept a second command, such as "open tray". I found that I only have to hit "open tray" and that will turn on the player and then open the tray without further coaxing.

I wish Panny could do something to speed up the boot time.
post #12024 of 14978
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Originally Posted by Rudy81 View Post

I recently discovered a shortcut to get the BD55 to come on and open the tray with only one command. I have a programmable remote that turns on the entire HT for a movie. Since the BD55 takes so long to boot, it is a long time before the player is ready to accept a second command, such as "open tray". I found that I only have to hit "open tray" and that will turn on the player and then open the tray without further coaxing.

I wish Panny could do something to speed up the boot time.

keep in mind it boots up a lot faster with no disc in the player...

I make sure to always remove the disc at the end of a viewing session so that next time it powers/boots up faster
post #12025 of 14978
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Originally Posted by Wannabe Actuary View Post

keep in mind it boots up a lot faster with no disc in the player...

I make sure to always remove the disc at the end of a viewing session so that next time it powers/boots up faster

Good reminder, thanks. I generally never leave the discs in there.
post #12026 of 14978
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Originally Posted by jcalabria View Post

I would just email those codes to Logitech and they take care of it... but I had some that I pulled from Remote Central in the past and they did not work. I will compare these to the ones I tried... if different I will give them a whirl. Thanks!

No problem. I generated these codes myself using "MakeHex" (I did not copy them from Remote Central), and have verified that they work perfectly on my Pronto TSU2000.

Brian
post #12027 of 14978
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Originally Posted by Rudy81 View Post

I found that I only have to hit "open tray" and that will turn on the player and then open the tray without further coaxing.

My BD35 is behind a glass door in my component cabinet. No remote opening allowed!
post #12028 of 14978
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Originally Posted by bweissman View Post

My BD35 is behind a glass door in my component cabinet. No remote opening allowed!

Same here... it doesn't like that very much... hits glass then goes back in.
post #12029 of 14978
I have the 35 and I'm looking for a cheap and easy solution to get it on my wireless network. The router is in a completely different room so using Cat-6 is a bit impractical. Any suggestions for a cheap wireless adapter that will work or can be made to work?

Forgive me if I missed a previous thread or post on this... I searched but didn't see anything.
post #12030 of 14978
You need a wireless bridge, another wireless router in either WDS or Bridge mode as in a "slave" router. You connect any networked devices to it, it then connects wirelessly to the master router. The master router connected to the web and it is the dhcp server handing out IP address/gateway information to all clients on the entire network.

Easier to do than it sounds.

As an example you can read about how to set up WDS using Tomato firmware on a linksys/buffalo/Asus router here:

http://www.polarcloud.com/tomatofaq#how_do_i_use_wds

What routers you use, what firmware on those routers, will of course determine how you will need to do the setup for your equipment.
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