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post #12151 of 14978
please help me..
i have
panasonic dmp bd35
and sony str dg820

my problem is i want to hear dts-hd,dolby hd, etc with hdmi av out but i always get 2ch pcm sound...
my setting is

Dynamic Range Conversion: On
PCM Down Conversion : Off
Downmix: Surround Encoded

DGITAL AUDIO OUTPUT
Dolby D/Dolby TruHD: Bitstream
DTS/ DTS-HD :Bitstream
Secondary Audio : Off

HDMI Connection
HDMI Audio Output: On

what is my mistake? please help me..
thx
post #12152 of 14978
Quote:
Originally Posted by xfenrirx View Post

please help me..
i have
panasonic dmp bd35
and sony str dg820

my problem is i want to hear dts-hd,dolby hd, etc with hdmi av out but i always get 2ch pcm sound...
my setting is

Dynamic Range Conversion: On
PCM Down Conversion : Off
Downmix: Surround Encoded

DGITAL AUDIO OUTPUT
Dolby D/Dolby TruHD: Bitstream
DTS/ DTS-HD :Bitstream
Secondary Audio : Off

HDMI Connection
HDMI Audio Output: On

what is my mistake? please help me..
thx

1. Set the HDMI Audio output on the Sony AVR to "OFF". If it is ON, it is trying to send audio to your TV which likely doesn't accept multichannel audio so it is telling the AVR to deliver 2-channel.
2. Do a reset of the Panasonic BD player.
post #12153 of 14978
it works.. thank you..
post #12154 of 14978
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul H View Post

Many people go to the wrong site to get the latest firmware update.

May 21, 2009 | DMP-BD55 Firmware Download for North America and Europe/UK/CIS.
& DMP-BD35 Firmware Download for all regions:

Link


Paul

Thanks Paul. I wasn't aware of an alternate site for firmware updates.

-Will
post #12155 of 14978
Downloaded FW1.9 directly from player - After update and factory reset, Bedtime Stories loaded consistently on 5 attempts w/ SD card installed. That's the only "problem" disc I had to test (though it loaded for me on FW1.8 more than half the time anyway).
post #12156 of 14978
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ralph Potts View Post

Greetings,

1.9 is currently downloading to my BD-55.


Regards,

anyone know what fw 1.9 fixes? panny site info is a little vague.
post #12157 of 14978
Quote:
Originally Posted by ted_b View Post

A question for all you who are looking at Blu_Ray as a possible 2 channel audiophile hirez music source (I already consider it a hirez mch music source with releases like Divertimenti, etc.)....

So I attended an incredible demo at CES by legendary recording engineer/producer Bill Schnee (partnered with his Sheffield labs co-founder Doug Sax in producing 24/192 BluRay stereo recordings). The sound was fabulous, and i'm not easily impressed. However, it won't be released until profile 3 (?) is released (audio only). But in the meantime there are snippets of great audio coming out, like next month's Neil Young Archives Vol. 1 set. The audio will be uncompressed PCM 24/192 (or 24/96 for the standard DVD set). The question is this: have any of you figured out how to get that great 24/192 to your main rig without compromising it by sending though a good-but-not-great processor built for movie surround use? I have a hi-end 2 channel system that is part of my HT (along with 5.1 hirez music and 7.1 movie surrounds) but now realizing that my DAC wil only see 24/96 out the the BD35's digital out. My alternatives are:
* BD35 digital out (limited to 24/96)
* BD35 analog outs (question the quality of the BD35 analog stage, or whether there is any downsampling done to the 24/192 before it reaches the analog outs)
* BD35 to Denon 3808 via HDMI, then 3808 analog outs (good but not great analog stage in 3808)

Anybody care about this angle on Blu-Ray, and it's capability in the Panny BD35? Thanks
Ted

You should have the BD55 forthe analog outs. BD35 to Denon 3808 via HDMI then it is analog out but directly to the speakers. I have the Denon 5308 which has a great analog section so to me it is fine. But some prefer more of an audiophile approach (less features but possibly better parts):

Krell Evolution 707

Classé SSP-800
post #12158 of 14978
jc....

That is a good news.

square....

That is the norm. We may at some later date get details but generally we see this "BD-V playback improved..." kind of thing.
post #12159 of 14978
gotcha. thanks.

Quote:
Originally Posted by jsmiddleton4 View Post

jc....

That is a good news.

square....

That is the norm. We may at some later date get details but generally we see this "BD-V playback improved..." kind of thing.
post #12160 of 14978
Is anyone aware of a way or method to contact the Panasonic support team to suggest a fix or report a bug?
post #12161 of 14978
Call support by using the 800 number on your manual. They are more than happy to talk with you, take the details, and give you a case number.
post #12162 of 14978
QUOTE=jsmiddleton4;16508916]Call support by using the 800 number on your manual. They are more than happy to talk with you, take the details, and give you a case number.[/quote]

...and then do nothing.
post #12163 of 14978
"...and then do nothing."

Sorry but that is not the case.
post #12164 of 14978
Thanks for the info. I'll give them a call next week.
post #12165 of 14978
Good Lord this is depressing. Boys night in for my sons and I, we settle in for some great WWII action on my new beautiful Patton disk. My player is running 1.9, latest firmware, good times.

Put in movie.

Read. Read. Read. Read. Nothing.

Push Menu.

Read. Read. Read. Read.

COPYWRITE VIOLATION

And that is that.

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? This is a next generation player, this is a movie that has been out for a while. Are things really still this bad? Really?

This format is doomed. I can't believe I can't watch this movie.

Update: so the disk also won't play in the PS3. So now I get to blame the disk. I can honestly say in all the years of buying DVD-esque formats, I have never had a bad disk. Maybe I have been lucky. This was brand spanking new copy, I opened it today. Guess it's going back now.
post #12166 of 14978
Quote:
Originally Posted by sergiohm View Post

You should have the BD55 for the analog outs.


Why? What makes the 55's analog out section any better than the 35's (other than 5.1, which is a moot point in this example)? They use the same user manual, etc; I gotta assume they are based on the same architecture and build quality?
post #12167 of 14978
Quote:
Originally Posted by rickeame View Post


This format is doomed. I can't believe I can't watch this movie.

Update: so the disk also won't play in the PS3. So now I get to blame the disk. I can honestly say in all the years of buying DVD-esque formats, I have never had a bad disk. Maybe I have been lucky. This was brand spanking new copy, I opened it today. Guess it's going back now.


My disc works fine on my 35 so it is most likely a bad disc. Over the years, I've probably run across about non rental 10 DVD's that wouldn't play/load out of close to 1000 tries across 6 different players. Some of those were damaged, but most appeared pristine so I assume it was a manufacturing issue and a replacement disc always worked.

So far I've yet to run across a Blu that wouldn't play of the 200-300 I've attempted with up to date firmware -- BD-10, BD-35, and a PS3. I'm sure some of it is luck and I'll eventually find one, but so I see no reason to doom the format.
post #12168 of 14978
Quote:
Originally Posted by ted_b View Post

Why? What makes the 55's analog out section any better than the 35's (other than 5.1, which is a moot point in this example)? They use the same user manual, etc; I gotta assume they are based on the same architecture and build quality?

Panasonic's original description of the two players suggested that the analog section of the 55 included higher quality parts (capacitors, etc.).
post #12169 of 14978
"Why? What makes the 55's analog out section any better than the 35's"

The 55 is better by design and intention regarding analog. One reason why its more expensive. It would make no sense IF the 35 and the 55 analog outputs were the same in quality and design. Your question is like asking how come a Corvette goes faster than a Chevy Volt. I mean after all aren't they both made by GM and both cars?
post #12170 of 14978
Quote:
Originally Posted by rickeame View Post

Good Lord this is depressing. Boys night in for my sons and I, we settle in for some great WWII action on my new beautiful Patton disk. My player is running 1.9, latest firmware, good times.

Maybe your player knew that "Patton" was not a good example of all it could do and refused to play that disc. There is much in the forums about the terrible job Fox did to that title with way over-the-top noise removal software. I have it and can confirm - the original 65mm film looks like smeared-over video. I'd exchange it for a different WWII action film (but not "The Longest Day" - that's another Fox smeared-over transfer.)
post #12171 of 14978
Quote:
Originally Posted by jsmiddleton4 View Post

"Why? What makes the 55's analog out section any better than the 35's"

The 55 is better by design and intention regarding analog. One reason why its more expensive. It would make no sense IF the 35 and the 55 analog outputs were the same in quality and design. Your question is like asking how come a Corvette goes faster than a Chevy Volt. I mean after all aren't they both made by GM and both cars?

Unless I'm mistaken, the dmp-35 doesn't have analog audio except for left/right correct? At least mine doesn't have 5.1 or 7.1 analog audio out.
post #12172 of 14978
Quote:
Originally Posted by Speck's Dad View Post

Unless I'm mistaken, the dmp-35 doesn't have analog audio except for left/right correct? At least mine doesn't have 5.1 or 7.1 analog audio out.

That's correct, but all I was talking about was 2 channel (l/r).
post #12173 of 14978
Quote:
Originally Posted by jsmiddleton4 View Post

"Why? What makes the 55's analog out section any better than the 35's"

The 55 is better by design and intention regarding analog. One reason why its more expensive. It would make no sense IF the 35 and the 55 analog outputs were the same in quality and design. Your question is like asking how come a Corvette goes faster than a Chevy Volt. I mean after all aren't they both made by GM and both cars?

?? Please don't treat me like an idiot. I understand DVD specs and HT/audio in general very well. I have a very hi-end system in place, and am simply asking what is NOT published in the specs of these two very related products. If the specs of the 35 and 55 were published like the engine specs of a Volt vs a Corvette, or reviewed as such, then slap me, yes. That's hardly the case here, jsmiddleton. Both machines use the same user manual and simply refer to the analog outputs as 2-channel for the 35 and 7.1 for the 55. They were released together, marketed together, have been reviewed together, and are a whopping $100 MSRP apart (and less so, street pricing). Hardly a Volt/Vette comparison. ?? Those extra 6 RCA outs likely account for most of the $100.

For those that reported from experience that the 55 has better sound via 2 channel, then thank you. It must come from slighter better caps and opamps ($100 doesn't buy you much). Personally, after asking the question a few days ago I think the real short-term solution is a machine built specifically for analog audio, the Pio 09FD with 8 dedicated Wofson DACs and separate audio power supply, etc.......Ferrari vs Volt.
post #12174 of 14978
Quote:
Originally Posted by ted_b View Post

Please don't treat me like an idiot.

Take what he says with a grain of salt. He has a history of presenting speculation as fact like the Netflix streaming through a firmware upgrade possibility. He condescendingly insisted it could not be done and was proven wrong.
post #12175 of 14978
I have my BD55 connected via analogs to my NAD M15 processor.

If I'm using 2 large main speakers, and small center and surrounds, but NO SUBWOOFER, can I assume that the BD55 will correctly manage all the LFE and bass management?

The NAD M15 manual states it performs no processing on the analog inputs
post #12176 of 14978
Quote:
Originally Posted by moovtune View Post

Maybe your player knew that "Patton" was not a good example of all it could do and refused to play that disc. There is much in the forums about the terrible job Fox did to that title with way over-the-top noise removal software. I have it and can confirm - the original 65mm film looks like smeared-over video. I'd exchange it for a different WWII action film (but not "The Longest Day" - that's another Fox smeared-over transfer.)

I have to add, my friend got this as one of his first BD's. He complained to me about it. I took my SD-DVD over and it actually looked overall better!!

Releases like this and others with issues could doom the format.
post #12177 of 14978
I think Fox got the message with Patton and The Longest Day. There were many posts discussing the digital look and the poor quality of these disks. I think we are lucky that most film companies seem to have gotten the message and that most new re-releases seem much better. If you want to see a great restoration pick up the Godfather Blu-Ray disks. Getting back to the 35/55 disk not playing I would think that it is just a defective disk.
post #12178 of 14978
Quote:
Originally Posted by scanspeak View Post

I have my BD55 connected via analogs to my NAD M15 processor.

If I'm using 2 large main speakers, and small center and surrounds, but NO SUBWOOFER, can I assume that the BD55 will correctly manage all the LFE and bass management?

The NAD M15 manual states it performs no processing on the analog inputs

The BD55 does bass management with a fixed 100Hz crossover. However, it discards LFE in systems configured without a sub. It does not reroute LFE to the mains.
post #12179 of 14978
Quote:


Posted by rickeame: Good Lord this is depressing. Boys night in for my sons and I, we settle in for some great WWII action on my new beautiful Patton disk. My player is running 1.9, latest firmware, good times.

Put in movie.

Read. Read. Read. Read. Nothing.

Push Menu.

Read. Read. Read. Read.

It does sound like a bad disc, particularly if it will not play in two players. Was it a rental? Did you clean it? Was it scratched?

I have that disc, and it plays on my BD60. I believe certain Pioneer players were the only ones that had a problem with Fox discs, including Patton.

BTW, if you really, really like the movie (as I do), I'd recommend the Blu-ray, in spite of the DNR controversy. I bought it for $14.98 on sale at Fry's. Yes, they did go overboard on the DNR, but it is the best I have seen the movie look (or sound) in any home video incarnation. I doubt it will be redone anytime soon, and it is too good a movie to just forget because the DNR got out of hand. If I see The Longest Day on sale, I will pick it up, too. It received the same treatment, but it is miles ahead of the DVD versions. the most recent 2-disc DVD is almost blurry. I would not pay full price for them.
post #12180 of 14978
Good post :-)
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