Official Panasonic DMP-BD35/55 Owners Thread - Page 440

OK. But still a very simple troubleshooting step to hook up your 55 to the Panny plasma. Even though your Tosh HD-DVD player worked with the Mits, for some reason it may not be compatible with the 55, or possibly other mfgr BD players. The Mits may require a fw update, if there any available that is.

If the 55 doesn't work with your plasma, you know something is wrong with it. And it's probably not something corrected by firmware. If the 55 does work, well I guess you'd have to give Mits a call. Good luck.

Btw, I'm not familiar with the Mits, are there any other settings that may need to be changed? Oh, one other thing, have you tried a different set of component cables?

Mike T

I've owned the Panasonic BD-35 for about a year which I run HDMI output bitstream into a Denon 4308CI receiver for decoding both Dolby True HD and DTS Master Audio. I've never had any issues playing either Dolby True HD or DTS Master until I tried to play the BD of "Dark City" with is DTS-Master 7.1. The sound was very distorted. I switched the HDMI output of the BD35 from bitstream to PCM and that solved the problem with great surround sound on my 5.1 system. I have updated the firmware of the BD35 to the newest version so that is not the problem.

Has anyone else had this issue with any disks on the BD35 via HDMI output on bitstream? Not sure if this is an issue with the BD35 or my Denon receiver but neither has had any trouble decoding either DTS-Master Audio or Dolby True before I played Dark City last night. Could it be a problem with the disk itself or that it is 7.1 surround sound? I'm not sure if I should exchange it for another copy?

Any insight or other's experiences with "Dark City" BD or other issues like this would be appreciated.

I didn't have any problem playing it on my 35 into an Onkyo receiver. I'd strongly suspect the receiver.

A few weeks ago I pulled down the door to access the SD card slot. The player read my card and I viewed the pictures from my digital camera on my Sony RPTV - all very nice. But the door won't close completely. The silver edge at the top of the door on its left hand side is caddy-wampus to the rest of the silver trim. The right side of the door where it says "Pull - Open" fits correctly. When I press on the left side, it doesn't catch anything to stay closed properly.

I would think if I exerted too much stress on the door to break a part of the hinge assembly it would have been on the right side. I've had the player since last Jan. and I think this was the first time I accessed the SD card slot. So the problem isn't one of overuse. Anyone else have a problem with this "door"? It really seems to be pretty flimsy.

Thanks for the input. Appreciated. It will be interesting if I come across anymore disks with this problem in the future; especially with DTS Master 7.1. Perhaps it is the Denon?

After I posted my question I found someone else who apparently had the same issue with "Dark City" who also happens to own a Denon receiver. See the link below:

Mike T.

Problem solved but I don't understand why? It was the component cables. I swapped out the existing component cables for a different name brand cables I had laying around.

Normally, If I had a bad or loose connection with my Mits. tv, I would just loose the color, Red, green or blue.. I have never heard of component cables causing jaggies? And yes, I made sure all connections were solid again before removing the existing calbles.

By the way, neither set of component cables were the cheapies. They both cost over $100 a piece.

Thanks for all the help!

Glad you got it going. If you notice, after all the troubleshooting mumbo jumbo, I added trying another component cable as an afterthought. Figures, that would be the problem.

The reason I even had that afterthought.........It happened to me, cable looked perfectly good but it wasn't. Once I changed it out, problem solved.

Mike T

Your reciever might need a firmware upgrade for DTS Master? Denon may resist admitting it...? My Onkyo 805 did have a firmware upgrade because of the "DTS Bomb". DTS Master caused occasional very loud noises in some DTS Master encoded discs at given spots. DTS has always been late with spec's for everything they did the past 15 years. It's probably DTS'es fault for giving Denon incomplete or rough spec's...? That's speculation though.

Thanks. That really could be the problem. I've also been delinquent regarding firmware upgrades on my Denon too which might not help.

Nice to have your problem solved.

Sorry that I couldn't reply to you any sooner. I would have suggested to have the firmware updated and/or have your cables checked. Another thing is to make sure that all your connections are clean, too

I used to have a problem with a particular component cable that seems to acted out pretty randomly (used to drive me up the wall when it happens). I eventually replaced it with another set that I bought at a local Radio Shack, and I've been using it ever since with no problems.

Anyway, my Panny DMP-BD55 has pretty much replaced my old Toshiba SD-3750 DVD player as my all purpose disc player.



Danny

Might not be of any use, but I have been using a Denon 2809CI (original firmware) and the BD55 (all released firmwares including 2.0) for about a year without any DTS-HD MA issues.

I hope you find the answer to your problem, DTS-HD MA sounds fantastic through a Denon.

Thanks for your input. I did a search in some of the Denon sites and did find something that Denon is not affected by the "DTS Bomb." See link:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...9#post13481459

I've played numerous BDs with DTS-MA without any problems until "Dark City."

Well, at least one other person is having problems with the "Dark City" (Blu-ray) sound. His problem is very similar to yours, except he is using a Sony S550.

See link below.

http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=71255


ALSO,

A reviewer from DVDTOWN.COM on Jul 25, 2008 made the statement below about Dark City's sound issue on Blu-ray.

"Audio note: Users bitstreaming DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1 to certain newer receivers--Denon, Integra, Onkyo, and Yamaha, among others--for decoding have reported occasional pops during playback. DTS supposedly informed the receiver manufacturers of this issue, and the manufacturers supposedly resolved it in their current models, while offering upgrades to older product. In addition, the folks at DTS supposedly have provided studios with instructions on how to reproduce DTS-HD MA 7.1 audio to avoid the problem altogether, but apparently not all studios got the memo. Using an Onkyo 705 receiver, I found this particular disc made a small pop every time I took it out of "Pause." Since at the time of this writing I had not yet upgraded my receiver, the work-around I used was to put the receiver in "Mute" for a moment just before returning it from "Pause." Maybe New Line had this BD already completed before they could implement DTS's instructions, I don't know. Just a caution".

Note: Bold/Italic emphasis is mine. It sounds like everyone is to blame a little, although the BD35/55 apppears to be a innocent bystander in this situation. A Denon firmware update will hopefully fix your problem.

http://www.dvdtown.com/review/dark-city/blu-ray/6131/2

Guys reading this thread has almost got me scared. I had a PS3 FAT for the longest time and i was extremely happy with its blu-ray playback...well other than not being able to do bitstreaming. Anyways i started to develop wireless network issues and i sent it back to sony twice and both times they sent me units which would shut down while playing my blu-ray disk.

I just built a Media Ctr PC and having stuttering issues now.

I finally decided just to get a stand alone player to not have the headaches any more and then i see all of these freezing issues. I was trying to decide between the bd60 and the sony s360 and i chose the bd60 because of the reviews. Now i'm thinking maybe i made a mistake buying this player?

I really don't want any fancy features. I just want a blu-ray player that will:
1) No have all kinds of issues with new blu-ray movies that require firmware updates
2) Has solid video/audio performance
3) bitstreaming
4) I am able to update firmware automatically form the internet.

Should i cancel my order and go with the sony?

You are in the wrong thread. This is the BD 35/55 thread. You want the BD 60/80 thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1131783

The BD 35/55 does not suffer from the same freezing problems that the 60/80 does. For every person that has a problem with their 35/55 there are probably many more who do not. People post in forums because they have a problem, not because everything works perfectly (my BD 35 does, by the way). In my opinion, the BD 35/55 satisfies all of your requirements and was/is an excellent player. I certainly have no regrets for buying mine.

I'm not so sure. My 35 has some kind of freezing malady. I'm about ready to drop-kick it.

There is plenty of evidence here that some do despite that blanket statement.

Rachael Bellomy's post is the first I have ever seen about this problem with the BD35/55.

Gary - please point to the "plenty of evidence here". I've seen a couple of posts in this thread about Star Trek, which is not the same problem as the BD60/80 random freezing. And there's one post about an unspecified "freezing up" problem where the player was being sent in for repair. That's all I can find here.

And Rachael - please define your "freezing malady" more precisely.

I am not about to go through all the results but this is what you get using the Search this Thread function.

"freeze" 59 hits
"freezing" 53 hits

I've owned my BD35 for just under a year and I usually watch 2 to 3 blu-ray movies a week and I have yet to encounter any kind of a freeze. The exception would be momentary ones with layer changes on standard dvds.

Have you actually read those posts, Gary? It's a fairly significant claim you are making - that there is "plenty of evidence" in this thread that the BD35/55 has the same type of freezing problem as the BD60/80. But, that's not what the posts in this thread say.

I probably have over the course of the last year and was left with that impression but as I said I am not about to go back and characterize 112 search results. Something tells me they are not about the weather.

You are right - they are not about the weather. They are also not about the same random freezing problem as the BD60/80, which is the claim you made. A few people have reported different sorts of freezes, the kinds of freezes that get reported with nearly every player. (And, since I used the words freezing, freezes, and freeze in this post, the search counts will now be higher.)

There have been no widespread complaints about freezing problems with the 35/55 of the same manner as the 60/80. That is a fact. Counting words without addressing the context those words were used in is useless.

If anyone here truly believes that the 35/55 has freezing issues of the same magnitude as the 60/80, perhaps they should follow this lead:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1168122

In other words, put up or shut up (like that will ever happen).

My point of emphasis relates to freezing problems, yours as they relate to the BD60/80. I am not sure Rachael Bellomy and others much care about that. I have had more than a few discs freeze in the BD35 and play fine in Blu-ray ROM drives.

Thanks for clarifying that you have shifted away from your original statement that there's plenty of evidence that some BD35/55 players suffer from the same random freezing problem as the BD60/80 players. That's what you said - and somewhat rudely - in response to bluesky636's post on the subject. But, it now appears that's not what you meant.

I have no position one way or another on general freezing problems. I am only involved in this discussion because of the inflamatory, unsubstantiated statement you made about the BD35/55 suffering from the same random freezing problems as the BD60/80.

Actually I do not wish to shift away from my original statement (which makes no mention of BD60/80) at all. In fact I will emphasize it "There is plenty of evidence here that some do". If you wish to emphasize there is no relation to BD60/80 problems, fine and dandy!

Gary J has been on my ignore list for quite some time. He can be as rude as I likes in responding to my posts. Frankly, I really don't care about anything he has to say on any subject.

Come on, Gary. I gather you just like to argue. So, do have anything of substance to offer linking freezes with the BD35/55 to the well-documented random freezing problem with the BD60/80 line?