Official Panasonic DMP-BD35/55 Owners Thread - Page 48

Originally Posted by Kage

Has anyone noticed that the BD35 has a noisy blu-ray drive when it loads blu-ray movies. This happened to me with the Godfather and the noise went away at the first wedding scene.

Originally Posted by snsguy

I'm not sure if the problem I am having is the player or my tv but I thought I would ask here. I'm noticing when I'm playing either a standard dvd or a blu-ray on my 55, during fast motioned scenes it's getting rather blurry and it get s somewhat hard to see what's going on. I have the Samsung LN46A650. I've tried the 120 htz on low when using the 55 which helps but should I need something like that on. I also and experiencing more artifacts around objects and areas to be pretty jagged on Standard DVD playback. Is this normal? I'm also experiencing an audio delay whenever the player is using 24hz instead of 60hz. I can't change the delay on my reciever because I am using analog out.

SNSGUY

Originally Posted by Jeff Farrar

Okay. I've been following this thread daily since day one. After a major upgrade of my AV equipment this past summer, I've been holding out on a Blu-ray player. I'm in no rush, but want to make up my mind soon and get the best deal sometime before the holidays. My decision has basically come down to the BD35 and yes, the PS3. The PS3 seems to have such an upside in addition to a Blu-ray player that it's hard to ignore. I'm not a gamer but that ability would be nice, I can also see using the networking feature and playing my MP3's off my PC. However my main objective is video and audio from the BD player.

I'm not asking which one would you choose (each needs to decide for themselves). But rather what are the advantages of a standalone player, mainly the BD35, vs. a PS3? Is it just the fact of having a standalone player? Or not dealing with a Bluetooth remote?

BTW: Not looking for any flaming, just trying to get some opinions.
Thanks.

Originally Posted by boylan13

Happens on the 50 and the 55 for sure. I would expect the same behavior on the BD35 but maybe not? I'm not sure if any of the people who have noticed the problem were using the BD35.

And again, so far only the 2007 (05 series) Onkyo receivers (and our DTC-9.8 pre/pro) have exhibited the problem and it only happens on native PCM 7.1 tracks sent over HDMI to the receiver. And as far as the receiver display is concerned, it's getting a 7.1-ch signal but the rear channels are silent.

-CB

Originally Posted by Rudy81

BTW, is anyone using the 35 or 55 with an HDMI switch without difficulty? If so, please let me know the brand. I cannot use my Monoprice switch now with the 55...not good since I have 3 other HDMI sources and no HDMI processor.

Originally Posted by Jeff Farrar

Okay. I've been following this thread daily since day one. After a major upgrade of my AV equipment this past summer, I've been holding out on a Blu-ray player. I'm in no rush, but want to make up my mind soon and get the best deal sometime before the holidays. My decision has basically come down to the BD35 and yes, the PS3. The PS3 seems to have such an upside in addition to a Blu-ray player that it's hard to ignore. I'm not a gamer but that ability would be nice, I can also see using the networking feature and playing my MP3's off my PC. However my main objective is video and audio from the BD player.

I'm not asking which one would you choose (each needs to decide for themselves). But rather what are the advantages of a standalone player, mainly the BD35, vs. a PS3? Is it just the fact of having a standalone player? Or not dealing with a Bluetooth remote?

BTW: Not looking for any flaming, just trying to get some opinions.

Thanks.

Originally Posted by boylan13

What you are saying is absolutely correct *IF* you set the player to decode (Dolby and DTS outputs set to PCM in digital audio output). But if you set the digital output to "bitstream" and you leave Secondary Audio ON, then you'll get core DTS for DTS-HD and the companion Dolby Digital track for Dolby TrueHD. I think you know that and were only answering for PCM mode, because that's what was asked, but I just wanted to clarify in case someone just tuned in.

-CB

Originally Posted by lordvader

Isn't video always decoded, or scaled to 4:4:4 anyways ?

Originally Posted by Rudy81

Perhaps I don't understand these settings either. My take on the manual was that anytime secondary audio was on, there was a resampling to 48KHz to allow for things like menu "clicks" etc. I would think any re-sampling would preclude lossless audio. I say this based on the fact that in a HTPC application, anytime Windows uses the kmixer to resample to 48kHz, you loose proper bitsteam encoding. Matter of fact, you have to bypass the kmixer, and hence resampling, in order to obtain the original dts or DD signal. Not trying to go off topic concerning HTPC's, but trying to understand just what happens to the signal when secondary audio is on or off. In my case, I am using analog out since my pre/pro does not handle HDMI. I just turned secondary audio off and get everything just fine, with the exception of a SD DVD putting out dts ES. It will somehow send out only 5.1 as per the manual. I have to use optical bitstream to my pre/pro in order to get proper dts ES decoding and 7.1 on those disks.

Originally Posted by Jeff Farrar

But rather what are the advantages of a standalone player, mainly the BD35, vs. a PS3? Is it just the fact of having a standalone player? Or not dealing with a Bluetooth remote?

Originally Posted by teachsac

Giving you a hard time, since we've had several discussions elsewhere I'm glad you finally got it.

Yes, I'm talking about the connections on the back of the TV. Make sure you are using the set all the way to the right and are the ones that say 480i/480p/1080i. The other sets by the vga port only accept 480i and 480p.

Use DVE HD Basics

http://www.amazon.com/Digital-Video-...5149766&sr=8-1

S~

Originally Posted by Kage

Has anyone noticed that the BD35 has a noisy blu-ray drive when it loads blu-ray movies. This happened to me with the Godfather and the noise went away at the first wedding scene.

Originally Posted by caa100

Yeah, I have noticed too. It is intermittent, and only seems to effect some parts of some blu-ray discs. Not audible at all on any DVD's that I have played. Sort of a soft whooshing sound.

Someone suggested maybe the disc itself is imbalanced.

Originally Posted by nmarmolejo

Hey everyone, I am getting ready to purchase the bd35, i want to make sure I understand the capabilities and I am getting the correct blu-ray for my setup.

I have an old 5.1 avr that does not support hdmi and the Sammy A550.

I want to run the video via HDMI directly to TV and use the Optical Out on the BD35 to the receiver.

Is my understanding correct that the optical digital out will still produce the DD and DTS that I will get 5.1 from my receiver.

Or do I need the BD55 with the analog 5.1 out to keep getting 5.1 thru my receiver?

I don't have the $$ for a new receiver at this point but in the future will be replacing with new one that supports HDMI so I don't want to buy a upgraded blu-ray if I don't need too since I will be going all HDMI in the near future.

So long as I can keep getting the 5.1 from the BD35 I am fine with that for now.

Thanks all.

Originally Posted by Mitsufan1

If I put in an older DVD say Toy Story, on my old DVD player it'd default to Dolby 2.0, then I'd have to change it. Does the Panny 55 automatically pick the DD 5.1 output or do I still need to change it on the movie menu? I can't tell from the player nor my AVR what surround mode it's in.

Originally Posted by lujan

The site worked for me and brought me to the same form that I sent in on Saturday. Hopefully the movies do come in before Christmas!

BTW, the form does reference only the BD35 and not the BD55...

Originally Posted by L David Matheny

My BD55 also makes a noticeable whirring sound when loading a disc and when navigating through the menus, but once it starts playing a movie it is hardly audible even from a couple of feet away. I assume the noise stops because the drive slows down once the read buffers are filled.

Originally Posted by krisjan

You won't get any of the hi-rez audio from the BD35 via optical out - only vanilla DD and DTS. With the BD55, you could run 5.1 analog outputs and get the hi-rez codecs to you AVR if that matters to you.

Originally Posted by boylan13

Really the benefits of going with a standalone player like the BD55 or BD35 over the PS3 are

• video quality (the BD55 does have a slight edge on the PS3 there, though they're both good)
• raw audio bitstream support (in case that's important to you)
• better integration with a home theater system
• multi-channel analog output (if that's a requirement for you)
• the convenience and familiarity of a device that is more like an A/V component and less like a computer in its operation
• front panel display that shows useful info like time into movie/time remaining

I'm sure there are other opinions. I can say that right now, having the PS3 and a BD55 in the system, I'm using the BD55 for all DVDs and Blu-ray Discs and don't feel like I'm sacrificing anything vs. the PS3.

-CB

Originally Posted by snsguy

I'm not sure if the problem I am having is the player or my tv but I thought I would ask here. I'm noticing when I'm playing either a standard dvd or a blu-ray on my 55, during fast motioned scenes it's getting rather blurry and it get s somewhat hard to see what's going on. I have the Samsung LN46A650. I've tried the 120 htz on low when using the 55 which helps but should I need something like that on. I also and experiencing more artifacts around objects and areas to be pretty jagged on Standard DVD playback. Is this normal? I'm also experiencing an audio delay whenever the player is using 24hz instead of 60hz. I can't change the delay on my reciever because I am using analog out.

Originally Posted by smjbh5

Did you send in the original receipt?

My TV is on the same receipt, and there's no way I'm sending in the original (need it for warranty).

Originally Posted by Rolls-Royce

Your receiver will also be getting a higher bitrate version of DD and DTS from Blu-Ray discs if you select the HD codecs, so you will still hear some audio improvement if your receiver can accept them.

Originally Posted by boylan13

I bought a PS3 in its 60 GB iteration and I have been impressed with its upgradeability. It was the only player out at that time which is not now obsolete. It has had firmware upgrdes to add support for BonusView, BD-Live and DTS-HD decoding and all around the time the competition was releasing new players to add these features. BTW, I haven't bought a single game for it. I only use it as a Blu-ray Disc player.

It's quick, to be sure, though it is losing its lead, particularly on players like the BD35/BD55 which has a resaonable quick boot-up time and loads many discs only slightly slower than the PS3 (or in some cases slightly quicker). The PS3 is definitely more perky when it comes to actual BD-Java and BD-Live interaction due to its on-board storage and powerful CPU.

But dealing with the Bluetooth issue is a pain. I have the Blu-ray remote which performs most operations as well as the Nyko IR remote, and this can allow you to operate *some* of the functions of the PS3 from a universal remote like a Harmony but not everything. Certainly not as seamless or integrated as an IR-based home theater component.

Really the benefits of going with a standalone player like the BD55 or BD35 over the PS3 are

• video quality (the BD55 does have a slight edge on the PS3 there, though they're both good)
• raw audio bitstream support (in case that's important to you)
• better integration with a home theater system
• multi-channel analog output (if that's a requirement for you)
• the convenience and familiarity of a device that is more like an A/V component and less like a computer in its operation
• front panel display that shows useful info like time into movie/time remaining

I'm sure there are other opinions. I can say that right now, having the PS3 and a BD55 in the system, I'm using the BD55 for all DVDs and Blu-ray Discs and don't feel like I'm sacrificing anything vs. the PS3.

-CB

Originally Posted by Rolls-Royce

Some of the hi-res audio codecs have higher bitrate "core" versions that your receiver will get over optical if you select one of them, so you will still hear some audio improvement if your receiver can accept these. Some older receivers spit up and turn purple when fed higher bitrate DD and DTS, so you might have problems.

Good luck!

Originally Posted by krisjan

You won't get any of the hi-rez audio from the BD35 via optical out - only vanilla DD and DTS. With the BD55, you could run 5.1 analog outputs and get the hi-rez codecs to you AVR if that matters to you.

Originally Posted by Rolls-Royce

You'll still need to change it regardless of which player you use. The default DD 2.0 track is specified by the disc itself and will be sent out automatically by the player unless you change it.