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post #1591 of 14892
I emailed Amazon today since my BD55K did not ship on October 28. Here's the response I got:

Please allow me to explain that sometimes unexpected fluctuations in supply can add time to our original availability estimate. We have learned that "Panasonic DMP-BD55K 1080p Blu-Ray Player" is now back-ordered, and our supplier has not been able to let us know exactly when they expect to have more in stock.
post #1592 of 14892
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Originally Posted by sroberts1220 View Post

Can anyone tell if there is any difference in picture between the BD35 and last year's BD30?

If you are talking about upconverting/deinterlacing then it looks very similar to me. I watch a lot of home shot video and there is considerable combing and moire artifacts on both these players. I get very few on the REON equipped 2550.
post #1593 of 14892
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Originally Posted by sourbeef View Post

OK, time for another obs. I am playing the blu-ray Twister. It has Dobly True HD. When I play it, my Onkyo receiver indicated Multichannel PCM 5.1, which is correct - it matches what is indicated on the back of the DVD case. It does not send a 7.1 PCM to the receiver. This is contrary to some previous posts about how the BD-35 interacts with some Onkyo receivers - by sending 7.1 to the receiver regardless. It seems to be doing it right, at least with this. When I played Hairspray, as DTS-HD-MA, the receiver indicated 7.1 PCM, BUT, that is what the DVD was designed for (as inicated on the back of the case). Anyhow, the purpose is to say it appears to be doing what it is supposed to depending on the blu-ray DVD being played. Maybe I am just confusing things here, I hope not.

Yes, according to the manual, this is actually normal behavior. The player won't expand 5.1 material out to 6.1/7.1 channels, and (at least on my Onkyo, and I'm guessing yours as well) it doesn't apply extra spatialization (PLIIx/DTS NEO6) to multichannel PCM sources. I get the same thing with my BD35 and my Onkyo (TX-SR674) - also, you'll lose the rear surround channels if you enable Secondary Audio in the setup menus, but only with TrueHD 6.1/7.1 material, DTS-HD isn't affected.
post #1594 of 14892
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Originally Posted by bori View Post

By the way my Onkyo 805 has the lastest firmware 1.08. If you are willing to take a small risk visit the Onkyo/Integra firmware requests thread and they can help anyone in upgrading their Onkyo receivers to the latest firmware. This is what I did and I had firmware 1.01 and went straight to 1.08 without a hitch. So I am part of the BOTJ (Brotherhood of the Traveling Jig).

i am a novice at this tech stuff, but i have an onkyo 705 and just watched ironman on my 35k with barely a sound on my rear channels...........is this what you guys are talking about and what are my options?
post #1595 of 14892
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Originally Posted by ncibob View Post

Is it possible to get Dolby Digital EX (6.1) out of the toslink output on the 35 or is that only capable thru HDMI?

DD EX soundtracks are 5.1 discrete channels, not 6.1. And yes, they can be output via the Toslink optical connection.

Sanjay
post #1596 of 14892
I just purchased my 55 today at CC. I have connected it via HDMI to my monitor and digital audio out to my digital processor. While I am sure I will come up with many questions which I hope to find answers to in this forum, right now I am having an audio difficulty. I am hearing sound, and it is going through my digital processor via the coaxial connection, but when I go to set-up to test my 5.1 configuration, there is no test sound whatsoever.

I have configured my set-up as set forth in the manual and have double checked all the settings to make sure that I have not missed anything, I simply am not receiving ANY test signal. I wanted a test signal to possibly increased the sound in my rear speakers as it seems to be a little quiet back there. Without the test signal, I am out of luck. Any suggestions wil be greatly appreciated.

The sound and picture are very impressive BTW, I just want to be able to tweak the settings.
post #1597 of 14892
Can you turn off the BD surround format decoding on the 55 so you can let your receiver do the decoding?
post #1598 of 14892
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Originally Posted by marshallmedia View Post

Okay, so I just took my new BD-35 back to Best Buy, with "Hairspray" still hibernating inside with apparently no desire to get out. Tried for about an hour last night, tried again this morning to eject it, used the secret key combinations in the troubleshootiing part of the manual, swung a chicken over my head, etc. BB tech sets it on the bench, plugs it in, hits "eject", and the disc comes right out. And, of course, in unison, both tech and person at register just sort of stare at me. At this point, how do I convince anybody that I'm not an idiot, that I've been messing around with this stuff since before they were born? Anyways, the BB truck comes in tonight and they're going to just give me another one.

The player reset itself after being unplugged.
Seen that happen before...


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Originally Posted by sroberts1220 View Post

I have the Panny BD30 and am considering upgrading to the BD35. I have no interest in BD Live and I download my firmware updates to cd and would continue to do so. Here are my questions: Is the picture on blu rays and regular dvd's really any noticeably better than the BD30, and is it noticeably faster at loading than the BD30?

Quote:
Originally Posted by sroberts1220 View Post

Can anyone tell if there is any difference in picture between the BD35 and last year's BD30?

I have both and have compared.
The BD35 loads a bit faster.
The BD35 video is slightly different, a bit more solid and 3D-ish.
These differences are very small.
More important than all that, IMO, would be the internal audio decoding and the BD-Live capabilities.

Enough to justify $300?
Well, that depends on your bank account.

I spent the dough because I'm too stupid to look at it rationally and my $$ situation is fine....
post #1599 of 14892
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Originally Posted by monesq View Post

I just purchased my 55 today at CC. I have connected it via HDMI to my monitor and digital audio out to my digital processor. While I am sure I will come up with many questions which I hope to find answers to in this forum, right now I am having an audio difficulty. I am hearing sound, and it is going through my digital processor via the coaxial connection, but when I go to set-up to test my 5.1 configuration, there is no test sound whatsoever.

I have configured my set-up as set forth in the manual and have double checked all the settings to make sure that I have not missed anything, I simply am not receiving ANY test signal. I wanted a test signal to possibly increased the sound in my rear speakers as it seems to be a little quiet back there. Without the test signal, I am out of luck. Any suggestions wil be greatly appreciated.

The sound and picture are very impressive BTW, I just want to be able to tweak the settings.

AFAIK, those speaker test signals should only be output via the analog outs, not digital optical/coax or HDMI.

See page 34 of your manual...
post #1600 of 14892
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Originally Posted by ncibob View Post

Is it possible to get Dolby Digital EX (6.1) out of the toslink output on the 35 or is that only capable thru HDMI?

DD EX and DTS-ES are available via toslink, no doubt about it!
post #1601 of 14892
There is a new Firmware out there on the Panasonic Support Site!
post #1602 of 14892
Maybe I misunderstood the question, but doing that is called bitstream.
post #1603 of 14892
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Originally Posted by derfalk View Post

There is a new Firmware out there on the Panasonic Support Site!

Hi,

Which player and can you provide a link? I tried the Panasonic web site and couldn't find one for either player.

Thanks.

Larry
post #1604 of 14892
Quote:
Originally Posted by LarryChanin View Post

Hi,

Which player and can you provide a link? I tried the Panasonic web site and couldn't find one for either player.

Thanks.

Larry

BD35 and BD55.. There's a separate thread with the links already..
post #1605 of 14892
Quote:


# Oct 30, 2008 | DMP-BD55 Firmware Download for North America.
# Oct 30, 2008 | DMP-BD35 Firmware Download for North America.

panasonic.jp/support/global/cs/bd/index.html
post #1606 of 14892
Quote:
Originally Posted by NLN987S View Post

BD35 and BD55.. There's a separate thread with the links already..

Hi,

Thanks.

For others interested here's a link to the thread:

Panasonic BD-35/55 Firware Update Available

Larry
post #1607 of 14892
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brandito View Post

type "cheap wii" in the live search engine, use the first cash back link you see to get to ebay, then do a search (on ebay) for whatever it is you want to buy and the cash back will be available for buy it now items. you don't have to actually search for the item you're looking for in live in order to get the deal at ebay, mainly they just need to know you came from live.com and that you used a cash back link.

i've used this exact method 3 times successfully. "cheap wii" just seems to be the easiest way to get there

also if you see someone using "or best offer" and want to give them a lower offer than the buy it now, you may be able to reason them into lowering their buy it now price to that of the best offer (should they accept your offer) and then you get the bonus of cash back as well.

i did this for some speakers i bought, even told the guy i'd accept his counter offer if he set it as the buy it now price and even told him why i was asking, he was totally for it and it saved me 100 bucks.

Can you confirm before you hit the "buy it now" button that you will get the discount?
post #1608 of 14892
Quote:
Originally Posted by oink View Post

The player reset itself after being unplugged.
Seen that happen before...






I have both and have compared.
The BD35 loads a bit faster.
The BD35 video is slightly different, a bit more solid and 3D-ish.
These differences are very small.
More important than all that, IMO, would be the internal audio decoding and the BD-Live capabilities.

Enough to justify $300?
Well, that depends on your bank account.

I spent the dough because I'm too stupid to look at it rationally and my $$ situation is fine....

Thanks for the response. I may have found someone to buy my BD30 for $250, so it would only cost me $50 to upgrade.
post #1609 of 14892
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Originally Posted by sourbeef View Post

OK, time for another obs. I am playing the blu-ray Twister. It has Dobly True HD. When I play it, my Onkyo receiver indicated Multichannel PCM 5.1, which is correct - it matches what is indicated on the back of the DVD case. It does not send a 7.1 PCM to the receiver. This is contrary to some previous posts about how the BD-35 interacts with some Onkyo receivers - by sending 7.1 to the receiver regardless. It seems to be doing it right, at least with this. When I played Hairspray, as DTS-HD-MA, the receiver indicated 7.1 PCM, BUT, that is what the DVD was designed for (as inicated on the back of the case). Anyhow, the purpose is to say it appears to be doing what it is supposed to depending on the blu-ray DVD being played. Maybe I am just confusing things here, I hope not.

The only *known* problem with the BD55 or BD35 and some Onkyo receivers is with 7.1-ch PCM discs, of which there are only about a dozen on the market and Twister is not one of them. The problem on these affected titles is that the receiver *says* it is getting the full 7.1-ch PCM signal but the rear channels are silent. There is no problem with 5.1-ch PCM discs, no problem with DTS-HD MA 5.1, 6.1 or 7.1, no problem with Dolby TrueHD 5.1 or 7.1.

Since bori has an Onkyo with the latest firmware and he doesn't have the problem with PCM 7.1 discs on an Onkyo 805, all likelihood at this point is that it is *NOT* a problem with the Panasonic Blu-ray players but is a (possibly correctable?) problem with the 05 Onkyo receivers. I don't have the 605 hooked up in the system to test a firmware upgrade currently but may do so at some point in the future.

Later,

-Chris
post #1610 of 14892
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Originally Posted by jayridescarbon View Post

More information. So playing detective, I tried to run the update with the player not connected and got the same thing, arrows running for about 30 seconds and the message "Unable to check for latest firmware version. Please try again later."

So it seems that even with the player connected and passing the connection test, the player still can't connect to the internet to check for the latest firmware version.

Any ideas? Do I need to change the proxy server and ports settings if I changed the IP and DNS settings?

Thanks,

Jay

It's possible your DNS settings are incorrect and it can't find the Panasonic web server even though it can connect to the Web, but I think the cheapest, simplest thing to do at this point is get a router. You can find them on Amazon and other places. Don't forget to pick up a couple of ethernet cables to go with it. This would allow you to keep PC and BD player hooked up at the same time, and DHCP should work properly so you won't have to worry about trying to figure out the static IP settings.

-Chris
post #1611 of 14892
Please try asking these type of questions in the official bdp55 thread rather than starting a new one.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...075161&page=54
post #1612 of 14892
Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwi2000 View Post

Just started up my 35 unit, it was beautiful until it stopped after about 30 minutes through blue planet.
It will not restart and shows a code? of U73 on the display.

I do not know how to select 5.1 or 7.1 or the dolby or dts Hd audio offerings. I have it set to pcm as advised earlier in this thread but no where did I see an option to select between the two HD audio options or 5.1 or 7.1.

This is moot anyway as it will not restart. Anyone want to chime in as to what error code U73 is on the display and how to correct it?

The second disc has just tried to play, it is a beautiful pink and green color for the bbc biography, (no it is not suppossed to be pink and green)!

I have restarted it many times with the same result, unwatchable. To sum it up,
Disc one stopped 30 minutes in with an error message.
Disc two improper color, with no adjustment available that I can see.

Anyone on the audio quesiton posed above?

U73 is usually either an HDMI handshake issue or a defective player. HDMI handshake issue could be caused by something in the signal path not "playing nice." If you have any switches or receivers in the path between the player and the display, try bypassing them just to debug the problem - plug the player directly into the display, make sure both are powered on and see if the U73 goes away. If this works, then add back in any other components (receiver, switch, etc.) until it fails and then you'll have your culprit.

Also, try swapping out the HDMI cable as many people have reported U73 errors from defective HDMI cables. If none of this resolves the problem then you may need to exchange the player. But try calling Panasonic support in case they have any other suggestions.

As for your audio questions, the settings for digital audio output are in the audio set-up menu under "digital audio output." If you want multi-channel sound to be carried over HDMI via PCM (Dolby and DTS decoded in the player), then select "PCM" for both the "Dolby" and "DTS" settings. There's a screen shot of the digital audio output menu in my review of the BD55.

-CB
post #1613 of 14892
Quote:


sourbeef wrote

What I do, and this may not be the only way, is when I start a movie, I press the Audio button on the remote. You can then choose whatever is available on the DVD you are playing. Sometimes you get 3 or 4 selections depending on the DVD.

slogun wrote

U73: page 37 in the manual. Pertains to a problem with your HDMI cable/connection.

As for audio, You've got it set to PCM, so the player will decode the audio codecs and send them to your receiver. Your receiver will decide what do do about 5.1/7.1.
You need to verify in setup/audio/language options of each BD disc which audio track you want to listen to (i.e TruHD, etc).
capice?

Thank you both for your prompt replies to my questions.
post #1614 of 14892
Does anyone know when the 35, and 55, will be hitting the shelves in Canada?
post #1615 of 14892
Quote:
Originally Posted by jbenchmole View Post

i am a novice at this tech stuff, but i have an onkyo 705 and just watched ironman on my 35k with barely a sound on my rear channels...........is this what you guys are talking about and what are my options?

Dolby TrueHD 5.1 tracks (as on Iron Man) will be sent to your receiver as Dolby TrueHD 5.1 (if you select "bitstream") or as PCM 5.1 (if you select "PCM"). If you have a 7.1-channel system, and if the Onkyo 705 will not apply DPLIIx processing (or something similar) to PCM 5.1 or TrueHD 5.1 channel signals to simulate a rear surround channel then you won't get anything from your rear channels. But this is not any limitation in the player as it's behaving as it should.

You might want to pose your question in the Onkyo TX-SR705 owners thread as these guys might know the receiver's surround sound options better than we do here. Basically the question is, "Does my receiver have any surround modes to add rear channel information to a PCM 5.1 or Dolby TrueHD 5.1 soundtrack?" If the answer is no, then you will have to live with it, or buy a new receiver. The Pioneer 94TXH, for example, automatically goes into PLIIx mode when it sees a 5.1-ch input, simulating rear channels for a 6.1 or 7.1 channel configuration.

-CB
post #1616 of 14892
Quote:
Originally Posted by monesq View Post

I just purchased my 55 today at CC. I have connected it via HDMI to my monitor and digital audio out to my digital processor. While I am sure I will come up with many questions which I hope to find answers to in this forum, right now I am having an audio difficulty. I am hearing sound, and it is going through my digital processor via the coaxial connection, but when I go to set-up to test my 5.1 configuration, there is no test sound whatsoever.

I have configured my set-up as set forth in the manual and have double checked all the settings to make sure that I have not missed anything, I simply am not receiving ANY test signal. I wanted a test signal to possibly increased the sound in my rear speakers as it seems to be a little quiet back there. Without the test signal, I am out of luck. Any suggestions wil be greatly appreciated.

The sound and picture are very impressive BTW, I just want to be able to tweak the settings.

The tweaking for your particular set-up should be done in the receiver, not the player. The level adjustments in the player are for the player's multi-channel analog outputs not the fiberoptic or coax digital outputs.

-CB
post #1617 of 14892
Just dropped by the local Advance store in Winnipeg Manitoba [they had lots of both the 35 and 55] and picked up the BD 55 - hooked it up to my non HDMI switching Pioneer 814 AVR via analog 5.1 [ had the player do the downmix from 7.1 to 5.1 in Setup], hooked up the video via monoprice HDMI to my 42" 1080p Panny plasma [turned off the audio via HDMI] and woke up in heaven.

By the way the BD 55 has both digital coaxial and optical connections besides the 7.1 analog connections.
post #1618 of 14892
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooey View Post

Just dropped by the local Advance store in Winnipeg Manitoba [they had lots of both the 35 and 55] and picked up the BD 55 - hooked it up to my non HDMI switching Pioneer 814 AVR via analog 5.1 [ had the player do the downmix from 7.1 to 5.1 in Setup], hooked up the video via monoprice HDMI to my 42" 1080p Panny plasma [turned off the audio via HDMI] and woke up in heaven.

By the way the BD 55 has both digital coaxial and optical connections besides the 7.1 analog connections.

Oops. You're right. Should have read my own review again or looked at my picture of the back panel. I was thinking of the BD35 which has optical only.

-CB
post #1619 of 14892
Quote:
Originally Posted by boylan13 View Post

U73 is usually either an HDMI handshake issue or a defective player. HDMI handshake issue could be caused by something in the signal path not "playing nice." If you have any switches or receivers in the path between the player and the display, try bypassing them just to debug the problem - plug the player directly into the display, make sure both are powered on and see if the U73 goes away. If this works, then add back in any other components (receiver, switch, etc.) until it fails and then you'll have your culprit.

Also, try swapping out the HDMI cable as many people have reported U73 errors from defective HDMI cables. If none of this resolves the problem then you may need to exchange the player. But try calling Panasonic support in case they have any other suggestions.

As for your audio questions, the settings for digital audio output are in the audio set-up menu under "digital audio output." If you want multi-channel sound to be carried over HDMI via PCM (Dolby and DTS decoded in the player), then select "PCM" for both the "Dolby" and "DTS" settings. There's a screen shot of the digital audio output menu in my review of the BD55.

-CB

Chris,

I just checked out your review site (subscribed). Very nice and informative! Thanks for sharing your insites/knowledge in this forum, it's much appreciated.

Ray
post #1620 of 14892
Amazon BD55 delivery now estimated for December. Got this email from Amazon today:

"Panasonic DMP-BD55K 1080p Blu-Ray Player" [Electronics]Estimated arrival date: 12/02/2008 - 12/31/2008"
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