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post #2851 of 14894
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Originally Posted by phantom203r View Post

I wonder if its your samsung tv, I have a 52850 and last night I put in a dvd to watch on my 360 and was getting some flashes while playing the movie. I've never seen that before playing my games.

It could be. I don't have another HDMI capable TV to test that out. Any hypothises on how that might occur? I don't remember what resolution the blu-ray player's splash screen was being displayed at. I did try messing with the player's vid settings using 'auto' and forcing '1080p' with and without 24 fps set. The laptop displayed at something like 1200x700(ish). I set the Xbox 360 to 1080p and did not try any other settings.

I have also not checked if the TVs firmware is up to date.
post #2852 of 14894
BD-55 arrived from Amazon...cables here from Monoprice...I'm goin' in!

Is there a rundown somewhere in this thread that shows the proper set-up options based on 5.1 component cables from player to non-HDMI AVR & HDMI from player to plasma (Pioneer Elite 1130)?

Ideally, I need something that a 3rd grader could understand as that is about my knowledge level on this.
post #2853 of 14894
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Originally Posted by Paul Arnette View Post

I think you need to take the AVR out of the chain completely (i.e hook the player to the display directly) before you can make that statement, and, even then, it still may be a bad unit and not indicative of the entire line.

I did briefly hook the player directly to the TV, and I did not get any flashes. But I did it when the player was cold and only for a minute. I didn't include that bit of info because I didn't give it remotely enough time (I was time pressed then) and because I won't be running without the Onk AVR. I'll try it again more thorougly tonight, though.

Since I only have a sample size of one, I'm certainly not suggesting the entire product line has a problem. I would hope that others here who have an 805 AVR would report if their 35/55 player works fine. Perhaps there's a vendor mismatch of HDMI implementation. But given the choice of finding a player that works with the Onk 805 and finding an AVR that works with the Panny 35, I will defintely choose the first option.
post #2854 of 14894
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Originally Posted by biodegraded View Post

It could be. I don't have another HDMI capable TV to test that out. Any hypothises on how that might occur? I don't remember what resolution the blu-ray player's splash screen was being displayed at. I did try messing with the player's vid settings using 'auto' and forcing '1080p' with and without 24 fps set. The laptop displayed at something like 1200x700(ish). I set the Xbox 360 to 1080p and did not try any other settings.

I have also not checked if the TVs firmware is up to date.

When you got the flashes did the input info come up on the top left side telling you the input and resolution? That's what I was getting last night when it flashed.
post #2855 of 14894
What is the factory warranty on these? Also, if I pick up the extended sevice plan through best buy is it still valid if the UPC is removed for rebate purposes?
post #2856 of 14894
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Originally Posted by biodegraded View Post

Thought I'd report my not-so-hot BD35 experience. I didn't read the whole thread (~3000 posts!), but at least one other person, wyliec2, seems to have had the same problem. Here's the description I sent with a request for an RA# to send it back.

Here are the relevant devices involved, all of which were purchased new within the past three weeks:

Panasonic DMP-BD35K blu-ray player
Onkyo TX-SR805 AVR
Samsung LN52A650 LCD TV

The devices are connected via HDMI, player to AVR and AVR to TV. The problem is sporadic screen flashes while at the player’s splash screen and when playing back standard definition discs. Bafflingly, there is no flashing when a blu-ray disc is playing.

I did the following tests:

...Swapped HDMI cables between player to AVR and AVR to TV. I have five 1.3b cat2 cables from two different manufacturers. The screen flashes with any combination of cable swaps.
...Hooked the player to all of the AVR’s HDMI inputs. All flash.
…Updated the player’s firmware to v1.5, the most recent released (player came with rev 1.1). Still flashes. The AVR came with the vendor’s most recent firmware, v1.08.
...Hooked an Xbox 360 with HDMI to the AVR. No flashes.
...Hooked a laptop computer with HDMI to the AVR. No flashes.
...Hooked component video (not HDMI) and optical audio from player to AVR. No flashes.
…Also of note is that the flashing gets much worse as the player warms up from playing a disc. The unit has completely unrestricted airflow for heat dissipation.

The tests indicate HDMI packet dropping between the blu-ray player and the AVR. I don’t have any other HDMI devices to source with to further test the Onkyo AVR. I don’t have another HDMI capable A/V receiver to further test the Panasonic player. I think it’s fairly conclusive, however, that something is wrong with the player.

I have a BD55 hooked up to a 46A650 with no problems. I have not put my 805 into the chain because I am using that in a different room.

This may be a case of the three being a bad mix.

Do you have "HDMI Audio Out" set to off on your 805? Perhaps the Sammy can't handle the bitstreaming of the high rez codecs.

You may also want to enable or disable your "anynet" option on the tv or on the player to see what happens.
post #2857 of 14894
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Originally Posted by TyTimp View Post

Is the BD55 supposed to matrix 5.1 audio to the surround rears. I thought it was supposed to but can't get it to. I have a 7.1 non-HDMI Yamaha RX1400 receiver connected by analog inputs. I have to select the multi-channel input on the receiver for audio from the BD player but get no rear surround sound. I have the BD player set for 7.1 output and have tried everything on the receiver to get the rear surround channels to matrix with no results. The receiver has no problem matrixing 7.1 audio when playing SD DVD's through my regular DVD player but not a blu-ray. That means I have to play regular DVD's through my regular DVD player if I want 7.1 simulated audio. I thought I'd ask here first before getting help in the receiver forum just incase this player does not matrix 5.1 into 7.1. Any suggestions?

I have the Yamaha HTR-5990 hooked to the 7.1 analog outputs and so far I do get sound from all 7 speakers. I have only tried 2 disks. One has 7.1 PCM and the other is 5.1 DTS-HD Master Audio. I have a few more to try now (thanks to the great Big River deal!).

What disks have you tried, what format are they? Do you have secondary audio off?
post #2858 of 14894
Anybody having issue with the 55 not sticking to 1080p/24? I'm getting my first Blu Ray titles tonight, but I've been watching regular DVD's and I can force 24 by using options when clicking Display on the remote, it just won't stick. Is this something that only defaults to 1080p/24 when watching Blu Ray and DVD won't default to it?

Also, I'm using the analog out and I'm looking for a good website to calculate the delay needed to set my rear speakers at. My Denon receiver does it automatically based on speaker distances, but it only works on digital inputs. Thoughts or address I can go to?

EDIT: Thirdly, can anyone tell me if I can tell if and when Deep Color is being utilized? I have a Deep Color capable set (Samsung 61a750 DLP) but I have an HDMI cable that I'm not sure if its rated to handle 1.3
post #2859 of 14894
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Originally Posted by phantom203r View Post

When you got the flashes did the input info come up on the top left side telling you the input and resolution? That's what I was getting last night when it flashed.

No messages of any kind show up on the TV or AVR. I get two kinds of flashes. When at the player's splash screen the entire TV screen goes white for a very short period of time - two frames at most. It's like a camera's flash going off. When the player is cold, flashes are minutes apart. When warm after playing a disc, it's like a paparazzi frenzy when celebrities get out of a limo to attend the Academy Awards ceremony...

The other flash occurs when playing a SD DVD. In this case much of the image is displayed, but a big multi-colored tear wipes out some of the it. Again, it's only for a frame or two. It also happens much less often than the splash screen.
post #2860 of 14894
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Originally Posted by Randy Mathis View Post

I have a BD55 hooked up to a 46A650 with no problems. I have not put my 805 into the chain because I am using that in a different room.

This may be a case of the three being a bad mix.

Do you have "HDMI Audio Out" set to off on your 805? Perhaps the Sammy can't handle the bitstreaming of the high rez codecs.

You may also want to enable or disable your "anynet" option on the tv or on the player to see what happens.

I don't remember what I set the HDMI audio out to. I'll have to check that it's off. But is seems unlikely the blu-ray player is outputting some kind of HD sound when at the splash screen. And there's that bizzare point that I get no flashing at all when playing back a blu-ray disc, say, Iron Man in 5.1 TrueHD.

I'll check the anynet, too.

Edit note: I just remembered that when I'm at the splash screen, the AVR reports 'Dolby Digital'.
post #2861 of 14894
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Originally Posted by biodegraded View Post

Thought I'd report my not-so-hot BD35 experience. I didn't read the whole thread (~3000 posts!), but at least one other person, wyliec2, seems to have had the same problem. Here's the description I sent with a request for an RA# to send it back.

Here are the relevant devices involved, all of which were purchased new within the past three weeks:

Panasonic DMP-BD35K blu-ray player
Onkyo TX-SR805 AVR
Samsung LN52A650 LCD TV

The devices are connected via HDMI, player to AVR and AVR to TV. The problem is sporadic screen flashes while at the player's splash screen and when playing back standard definition discs. Bafflingly, there is no flashing when a blu-ray disc is playing.

I did the following tests:

...Swapped HDMI cables between player to AVR and AVR to TV. I have five 1.3b cat2 cables from two different manufacturers. The screen flashes with any combination of cable swaps.
...Hooked the player to all of the AVR's HDMI inputs. All flash.
Updated the player's firmware to v1.5, the most recent released (player came with rev 1.1). Still flashes. The AVR came with the vendor's most recent firmware, v1.08.
...Hooked an Xbox 360 with HDMI to the AVR. No flashes.
...Hooked a laptop computer with HDMI to the AVR. No flashes.
...Hooked component video (not HDMI) and optical audio from player to AVR. No flashes.
Also of note is that the flashing gets much worse as the player warms up from playing a disc. The unit has completely unrestricted airflow for heat dissipation.

The tests indicate HDMI packet dropping between the blu-ray player and the AVR. I don't have any other HDMI devices to source with to further test the Onkyo AVR. I don't have another HDMI capable A/V receiver to further test the Panasonic player. I think it's fairly conclusive, however, that something is wrong with the player.

I also have the A650 iss your firmware 2007? I had to go back to 1003 due to the fact of the pink or purpilish flashing and also because of the audio periodically getting off with the picture. Going back to the older firmware seems to have helped. If that doesn't fix it switch it out for a new one. I had to do that also. But that was for other reasons.

SNSGUY
post #2862 of 14894
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Originally Posted by snsguy View Post

I also have the A650 iss your firmware 2007? I had to go back to 1003 due to the fact of the pink or purpilish flashing and also because of the audio periodically getting off with the picture. Going back to the older firmware seems to have helped. If that doesn't fix it switch it out for a new one. I had to do that also. But that was for other reasons.

SNSGUY

I called my daughter and had her bring up the firmware screen. It ended in
2007.0.
post #2863 of 14894
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Originally Posted by boylan13 View Post

For those who bought their BD35 online (from a store in a different state than your address), Panasonic *will* honor the rebate form for the two free Disney Blu-ray Discs ("Ratatouille" and "Nightmare Before Christmas"). In fact they tell me they are going to try to update the PDF to take out the line about store receipts emanating in the same state as the consumer's address.

More info at http://www.panasonicsleepingbeauty.com

This comes straight from the horse's mouth - the marketing person at Panasonic (not Disney) who inadvertantly put that line into the form (and boy is she embarassed). I will respect her right to privacy and will not be publishing her name here.

Later,

-Chris

FYI, they have not updated the PDF as of today. I'm thinking I might buy this unit before Christmas.
post #2864 of 14894
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Originally Posted by biodegraded View Post

I called my daughter and had her bring up the firmware screen. It ended in
2007.0.

Try taking it back to 2003 ifyou have it if you don't I can PM you a link after I put it up on my site. Let me know if you need it. I haven't experienced any changes from the user menu when I have chagned the firmware but you may need to write all your settings down just in case.

SNSGUY
post #2865 of 14894
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Originally Posted by biodegraded View Post

Thought I'd report my not-so-hot BD35 experience. I didn't read the whole thread (~3000 posts!), but at least one other person, wyliec2, seems to have had the same problem. Here's the description I sent with a request for an RA# to send it back.

Here are the relevant devices involved, all of which were purchased new within the past three weeks:

Panasonic DMP-BD35K blu-ray player
Onkyo TX-SR805 AVR
Samsung LN52A650 LCD TV

The devices are connected via HDMI, player to AVR and AVR to TV. The problem is sporadic screen flashes while at the player's splash screen and when playing back standard definition discs. Bafflingly, there is no flashing when a blu-ray disc is playing.

I did the following tests:

...Swapped HDMI cables between player to AVR and AVR to TV. I have five 1.3b cat2 cables from two different manufacturers. The screen flashes with any combination of cable swaps.
...Hooked the player to all of the AVR's HDMI inputs. All flash.
Updated the player's firmware to v1.5, the most recent released (player came with rev 1.1). Still flashes. The AVR came with the vendor's most recent firmware, v1.08.
...Hooked an Xbox 360 with HDMI to the AVR. No flashes.
...Hooked a laptop computer with HDMI to the AVR. No flashes.
...Hooked component video (not HDMI) and optical audio from player to AVR. No flashes.
Also of note is that the flashing gets much worse as the player warms up from playing a disc. The unit has completely unrestricted airflow for heat dissipation.

The tests indicate HDMI packet dropping between the blu-ray player and the AVR. I don't have any other HDMI devices to source with to further test the Onkyo AVR. I don't have another HDMI capable A/V receiver to further test the Panasonic player. I think it's fairly conclusive, however, that something is wrong with the player.

I have the LN52A650 (fw 2007) and the BD55 instead of the 35. I have the player directly connected via HDMI to the TV (with analog to the AVR) and have had no problems.
post #2866 of 14894
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Originally Posted by hellerbrewing View Post

What is the factory warranty on these? Also, if I pick up the extended sevice plan through best buy is it still valid if the UPC is removed for rebate purposes?

It's extremely unlikely that you would need the box to get warranty service. I had warranty service on my Panny 800 plasma only a few weeks after I bought it (no don't freak if you have one, I screwed something up and Panny was kind enough not to blame me and serviced it quickly) and all that was required was a copy of the receipt.

According to the manual, the warranty is one year for parts and labor (the player).
post #2867 of 14894
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Originally Posted by chripuck View Post

Anybody having issue with the 55 not sticking to 1080p/24? I'm getting my first Blu Ray titles tonight, but I've been watching regular DVD's and I can force 24 by using options when clicking Display on the remote, it just won't stick. Is this something that only defaults to 1080p/24 when watching Blu Ray and DVD won't default to it?

Also, I'm using the analog out and I'm looking for a good website to calculate the delay needed to set my rear speakers at. My Denon receiver does it automatically based on speaker distances, but it only works on digital inputs. Thoughts or address I can go to?

EDIT: Thirdly, can anyone tell me if I can tell if and when Deep Color is being utilized? I have a Deep Color capable set (Samsung 61a750 DLP) but I have an HDMI cable that I'm not sure if its rated to handle 1.3


This has been discussed. The player will stick to the 24p setting for blu-ray, but for dvd, it has to be set in the display for each dvd. Apparently, some dvds will look awful at 24p, so Panasonic wants the player to be idiot proof (not have a disc look awful and then have the consumer blame the player, when the 24p setting is to blame).
post #2868 of 14894
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Originally Posted by jayridescarbon View Post

This has been discussed. The player will stick to the 24p setting for blu-ray, but for dvd, it has to be set in the display for each dvd. Apparently, some dvds will look awful at 24p, so Panasonic wants the player to be idiot proof (not have a disc look awful and then have the consumer blame the player, when the 24p setting is to blame).

Thanks for the info. I'd read about 7 or 8 pages, but 96 pages is a little long to read.
post #2869 of 14894
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Originally Posted by chripuck View Post

Thanks for the info. I'd read about 7 or 8 pages, but 96 pages is a little long to read.

You're welcome. Sorry, didn't mean to imply that you should go looking through 96 pages for an answer.

Enjoy the player.
post #2870 of 14894
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Originally Posted by chripuck View Post

...I'm using the analog out and I'm looking for a good website to calculate the delay needed to set my rear speakers at. My Denon receiver does it automatically based on speaker distances, but it only works on digital inputs. Thoughts or address I can go to?

Hi,

To calculate the delay, subtract the distance from the primary listening location to a surround speaker (or the center speaker), from the distance from the primary listening position to a main speaker, and multiple the difference in distance in feet by .885 ms.
(This assumes that the distance to the mains is greater than the distance to the surrounds or center channel, and the speed of sound is 1130 ft/sec)

It takes sound .885 ms to travel 1 foot. ( 1 foot/1130 ft/sec x 1000 = .885 delay in ms)

Larry
post #2871 of 14894
Feels like i missed something in the set up. My picture is better when watching cable (non hd) then blu-ray (BD55). The background is grainy when watching blu-ray. My tv (Panna PV60) has some issues (purple snakes) but i have a good picture when watching cable. Even if the tv has issus there should not be better picture when watchen cable (comparing to blu-ray).
Wrote earlier that i have som problem, that the picture gets gray/lighter, but thats not the BD55. Saw the problem when watchin cable so its the tv not the BD55.
Still dont know why my BD55 switch back to "auto" in HDMI out. I want to set it to 720p not auto.
I remember when i judt got my BD55 and i set the HDMI out to 1080i. Got terrible picture (grainy). Switched to 720p and got good picture. Now its set to auto and maybe "auto" is 1080i?
Confused......
post #2872 of 14894
I just got my Panasonic DMP-BD35K today and hooked it up using HDMI directly to my Panny Plasma. The picture looks really fuzzy and or grainy. I messed around with it for an hour and reduced the graininess using the user picture adjustment putting 3D NR and the other NR all the way up. It improved it a little but still looks worse than the PS3 I just sold because I thought this Blu Ray player would look just the same or better. Am I missing something here..setting? I don't understand why a Blu Ray disk should look fuzzy, Although animated films like Disney's Happy Feet, Met The Robinsons, etc look good.

Any help please
post #2873 of 14894
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Originally Posted by boylan13 View Post

If you want to get the Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD MA logos on your receiver, then select bitstream for DTS and Dolby in the Digital Audio Output menu option and turn Secondary Audio OFF (with Secondary Audio ON it will send the lossy audio formats when you have menu clicks on the disc or Secondary Audio in the stream). But with Secondary Audio OFF you won't get audio from PiP commentary (BonusView content).

If you set it to PCM instead, then you can leave Secondary Audio ON and the BD55 will extract the encoded PCM track from DTS-HD MA and Dolby TrueHD, and mix in the menu clicks or Secondary Audio when it is present without having to resort to the lossy audio tracks. This is more important for titles with menu clicks than it is for Secondary Audio since BonusView comentary tends to lower the main soundtrack in the mix so much that it doesn't much matter whether you're getting it in full lossless surround that that point.

-CB

thanks...

which is the preferred method?
post #2874 of 14894
What is the best audio setting if you dont have a receiver that passes through Audio, I have to use Optical for audio, Pluse please see my post 2 post ago about Picture Quality.
Thanks
Bruce
post #2875 of 14894
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Originally Posted by Dennis A View Post

Feels like i missed something in the set up. My picture is better when watching cable (non hd) then blu-ray (BD55). The background is grainy when watching blu-ray. My tv (Panna PV60) has some issues (purple snakes) but i have a good picture when watching cable. Even if the tv has issus there should not be better picture when watchen cable (comparing to blu-ray).
Wrote earlier that i have som problem, that the picture gets gray/lighter, but thats not the BD55. Saw the problem when watchin cable so its the tv not the BD55.
Still dont know why my BD55 switch back to "auto" in HDMI out. I want to set it to 720p not auto.
I remember when i judt got my BD55 and i set the HDMI out to 1080i. Got terrible picture (grainy). Switched to 720p and got good picture. Now its set to auto and maybe "auto" is 1080i?
Confused......

Dennis, your set probably has different setup memories for SD and HD, and through luck (good or bad depending on your point of view) or circumstance, the one for SD is doing a better job with its material. Try using a calibration disc with the player, such as the free AVS one available for download.

HDMI sources will automatically set to the highest resolution the display reports that it can accept and that the player supports. In my case, my display takes 1080i but the HDMI--RGB converter I use reports 1080p. I had to access the player's setup using composite video to set it to 1080i, but the setting has stuck. In your case, I'm guessing that your set might be reporting its native resolution, which isn't directly output by the player, and that the player is automatically sending its next higher supported resolution (probably 1080i) to be downscaled by the display.

Have you tried contacting Panasonic support about your issue?
post #2876 of 14894
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Originally Posted by Wannabe Actuary View Post

which is the preferred method?

The audio quality should be the same either way. The track is decoded into PCM by the player or by the receiver. The same PCM.

With player decoding, secondary audio (menu sounds, PIP commentary) can be mixed with the PCM before it is sent to the receiver. That's the primary advantage of decoding in the player. Bitstreaming can only send the main audio track, not the secondary sources.

Some people say they get better audio when bitstreaming. It shouldn't be that way. But, that's the claim.
post #2877 of 14894
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Originally Posted by chripuck View Post

EDIT: Thirdly, can anyone tell me if I can tell if and when Deep Color is being utilized? I have a Deep Color capable set (Samsung 61a750 DLP) but I have an HDMI cable that I'm not sure if its rated to handle 1.3

It's essentially pure marketing, no one uses it for blu-ray. The only thing currently where you could take advantage of it is by using a camcorder that handles Deep Color and you connect it directly to your TV via HDMI. You shouldn't have any problems with your current cable.
post #2878 of 14894
I just got my Panasonic DMP-BD35K today and hooked it up using HDMI directly to my Panny Plasma. The picture looks really fuzzy and or grainy. I messed around with it for an hour and reduced the graininess using the user picture adjustment putting 3D NR and the other NR all the way up. It improved it a little but still looks worse than the PS3 I just sold because I thought this Blu Ray player would look just the same or better. Am I missing something here..setting? I don't understand why a Blu Ray disk should look fuzzy, Although animated films like Disney's Happy Feet, Met The Robinsons, etc look good.

Also.
What is the best audio setting if you dont have a receiver that passes through Audio, I have to use Optical for audio, Plus please see my post 2 post ago about Picture Quality.
Thanks
Bruce
post #2879 of 14894
Silly question I know but have you tried more than one BD disk and do you have the same PQ problems on SD DVDs?
What is the output resolution did you set on the 35?

Did you try all possible settings, auto, 1080p/24 or 1080i and 720p

Which model display do you have.
What does it show as the input signal resolution?
post #2880 of 14894
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Originally Posted by trekguy View Post

Silly question I know but have you tried more than one BD disk and do you have the same PQ problems on SD DVDs?
What is the output resolution did you set on the 35?

Did you try all possible settings, auto, 1080p/24 or 1080i and 720p

Which model display do you have.
What does it show as the input signal resolution?

I did try sevral BD;s

SD DVD's worse

Auto is the output resolution but tried 720P and 1080i

My TV model is the TH-58PX60U

I did not check the what input resolution it was showing but I can later.

Thanks
Bruce
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