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post #3301 of 14978
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Originally Posted by SUPERMANROB View Post

Ok guys I think I found how to turn on the 24P option at least for the BD35 is concerned. The Manual tells you to go thru the Display button but that didn't work for me.
If you go to the "set up " button then go to the "TV/device connection" button then to the "HDMI connection" button then you will find a "24P" option and you turn it to on. Once you do that if you follow the Manual and go to the "display" button you will get the option under "video" to "turn on" the 24P option.

Hi folks, have read hundreds of posts, but this is my first one.

Following all the advice given here regarding enabling 24p, I can still not do it on my BD55. The button in the HDMI connection menu is grayed out. There's no way to turn it on.

I tried using 1080i instead of 1080P, with no luck. The funny thing is, that it 24P worked perfectly when I had my Toshiba HD-DVD A20 connected to the same system.

For reference, have the HDMI cable connected directly from the 55 to the TV which is a 61" Samsung 1080P DLP set.

Thanks for any advice,

Rick
post #3302 of 14978
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Originally Posted by Lee Bailey View Post

When using the analog outs, the player has to mix the redirected bass information with the .1 channel LFE information. There is no way to extract the true LFE channel at the AVR to process the 10db boost when it is processed in analog form. Boosting the subwoofer channel at the player just results in all bass/LFE information being boosted, which results in improper playback levels of the re-directed bass information.

If your AVR can process the analog inputs through its own bass management, such as what the Outlaw 990 pre/pro provides, you can leave all your speaker settings as large. This way the 'subwoofer' channel in the player should only contain the LFE information, the AVR or pre/pro should then be able to remix the bass/LFE information in its digital processing, using the crossover settings in the AVR or pre/pro.

Other than that, there are other device out there you can connect between your player and AVR that provide the bass management into the analog inputs. The one device I know of was the Outlaw ICBM device, which unfortunately has been discontinued.

Ahhh... so if I set all the speakers in the 55k as small, would this be why voices sound so hollow and my bass was out of control? I was watching Iron Man last week and I had to put the 55 in Night Mode (dynamic compression) just to hear their voices over the bass. That was with my receiver doing a 0 DB increase on the sub channel.

I do have small classified speakers on my AVR, but my Denon can manage the analog signal and still apply the appropriate crossover filters as well as DB increases to each independent channel.
post #3303 of 14978
Hi Folks, good to find a forum of users! I bought the Panny DMP-BD35 a couple of weeks ago and watched Sipderman3, Cars, Casino Royale, Intercontenental & a few others. Love the player EXCEPT for 2 things. When I hit the stop button (to get the phone, popcorn, whatever) and want to resume the movie it usually starts FROM the very start of the disk, like I just loaded it. The player doesn't remember where it left off and resume the movie. Also the Bond flick ran thru all of the trailers and wouldn't let me skip to the top menu. Any ideas fellow owners?
post #3304 of 14978
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Originally Posted by rfischer4073 View Post

Hi folks, have read hundreds of posts, but this is my first one.

Following all the advice given here regarding enabling 24p, I can still not do it on my BD55. The button in the HDMI connection menu is grayed out. There's no way to turn it on.

I tried using 1080i instead of 1080P, with no luck. The funny thing is, that it 24P worked perfectly when I had my Toshiba HD-DVD A20 connected to the same system.

For reference, have the HDMI cable connected directly from the 55 to the TV which is a 61" Samsung 1080P DLP set.

Thanks for any advice,

Rick


Which Sammy DLP? I have the 61 A750 LED and it works fine. If its the same I'll check my settings tonight and get back with you. I too have my 55 connected directly to the TV but it goes to 24p mode and stays.

What firmware are you using on the 55k and the TV?
post #3305 of 14978
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Originally Posted by tu_ezguy View Post

Hi Folks, good to find a forum of users! I bought the Panny DMP-BD35 a couple of weeks ago and watched Sipderman3, Cars, Casino Royale, Intercontenental & a few others. Love the player EXCEPT for 2 things. When I hit the stop button (to get the phone, popcorn, whatever) and want to resume the movie it usually starts FROM the very start of the disk, like I just loaded it. The player doesn't remember where it left off and resume the movie. Also the Bond flick ran thru all of the trailers and wouldn't let me skip to the top menu. Any ideas fellow owners?

I believe both are standard behavior for these and most Blu Ray players. It's annoying, but you get used to hitting the pause button rather than stopping.

I believe the trailers you are seeing are a "mask" for the loading of the disc. Typical disc load times range from ~40 seconds to 1 1/2 minutes. Often times they throw simple trailers at the beginning that are quick to load. Gives you something to watch while the Blu Ray is actually loading up rather than staring at a blank screen.
post #3306 of 14978
Hi guys,

Has anyone incorporated an inexpensive wifi adapter; if so, any suggestions would be appreciated.
post #3307 of 14978
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Originally Posted by dneily View Post

Where is the Bookmark button on the remote? I know that the "Green button" is often used to Bookmark certain Blu-Ray disks. However, many disks require clicking a separate "Marker" button on the remote. The BD55 remote doesn't have a Marker button.

Bump

We're up to 3306 messages on this thread, and no one but me has noticed the lack of a marker (bookmark) function ??
post #3308 of 14978
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Originally Posted by tu_ezguy View Post

Hi Folks, good to find a forum of users! I bought the Panny DMP-BD35 a couple of weeks ago and watched Sipderman3, Cars, Casino Royale, Intercontenental & a few others. Love the player EXCEPT for 2 things. When I hit the stop button (to get the phone, popcorn, whatever) and want to resume the movie it usually starts FROM the very start of the disk, like I just loaded it. The player doesn't remember where it left off and resume the movie. Also the Bond flick ran thru all of the trailers and wouldn't let me skip to the top menu. Any ideas fellow owners?

This question has been answered a million times on this and numerous other BD player threads. So, here it is for the millionth and first time: BD's that have Java content (like the Pirates of the Carribean BD's) will not resume play where you stop. Many BD's have Java content and thus will not resume. Some Java content BD's have a bookmark feature that can be used to get you back to where you bookmark. Thhis is not specific to any player - all BD players on the market behave the same way with BD-J's. BD's without Java content will resume just like regular DVD's.
post #3309 of 14978
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Originally Posted by Longballsd View Post

Mark,

Do you have "sound effects" turned on? If so, turn it off.

OK, one problem solved which was no sound coming out of the surrounds or the center channel which was fixed by turning the "sound effects" off.

Now there is no sound coming from the bass but I'm sure it has to do with my speaker settings which I should be able to handle at this point.

In all of the excitement yesterday I started messing around with the BD55 menu BEFORE I read the manual. NOT a good idea. I guess I chenged the sound effects to "on" thinking THAT would be better. I guess there's a reason it is set to "off" in the default menu?? LMAO......

Yes, I discovered the same solution, as I mentioned in an earlier post. For those who have a center speaker in place, the three "V.surround" special effects should not be used, as they will shut off your center channel. However the other special effects (remaster, night surround) can be, if desired.

It's always wise to read the manual beforehand, but like everyone, I just hook things up and worry about the settings later. Or waste peoples' time by posting questions that are answered in the manual . However, it would be nice if they could make these things more "plug and play", or at least use a more user friendly setup routine. I'm sure lots of people don't have their systems set up correctly.

Another problem I discovered is that I hadn't changed the audio setting on my Onkyo receiver to "multichannel", which is appropriate when using individual surround channel analog inputs to connect to the BD55. This may or may not apply to different brands of receivers. I finally got everything set right and blu-ray looks and sounds amazing with the BD55.
post #3310 of 14978
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Originally Posted by chripuck View Post

Which Sammy DLP? I have the 61 A750 LED and it works fine. If its the same I'll check my settings tonight and get back with you. I too have my 55 connected directly to the TV but it goes to 24p mode and stays.

What firmware are you using on the 55k and the TV?

Darn, I can't remember the TV model number (am not at home). Got it last year at a Circuit City.

Either way, I am using the 1.5 firmware on the player. There is no setting in the TV for 24P, that I do know.


Thanks!

Rick
post #3311 of 14978
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Originally Posted by rfischer4073 View Post

Darn, I can't remember the TV model number (am not at home). Got it last year at a Circuit City.

Either way, I am using the 1.5 firmware on the player. There is no setting in the TV for 24P, that I do know.


Thanks!

Rick

If you bought it last year its not Sammy's latest model. Last years 61 inch LED DLP was 24p capable as well as the non LED DLP, but you had to download the latest firmware as it wasn't 24p capable out of the box. That might be your problem. Last years main models were 6176 (BULB), 6187 (LED) and 6189 (LED)
post #3312 of 14978
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Originally Posted by chripuck View Post

If you bought it last year its not Sammy's latest model. Last years 61 inch LED DLP was 24p capable as well as the non LED DLP, but you had to download the latest firmware as it wasn't 24p capable out of the box. That might be your problem. Last years main models were 6176 (BULB), 6187 (LED) and 6189 (LED)

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Okay, got the model # Samsung HL-S6187W

And as mentioned, 24P did work with the Toshiba HD-A20 HD-DVD Player...weird.





Thanks,
Rick
post #3313 of 14978
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Originally Posted by mark754 View Post

Yes, I discovered the same solution, as I mentioned in an earlier post. For those who have a center speaker in place, the three "V.surround" special effects should not be used, as they will shut off your center channel. However the other special effects (remaster, night surround) can be, if desired.

It's always wise to read the manual beforehand, but like everyone, I just hook things up and worry about the settings later. Or waste peoples' time by posting questions that are answered in the manual . However, it would be nice if they could make these things more "plug and play", or at least use a more user friendly setup routine. I'm sure lots of people don't have their systems set up correctly.

Another problem I discovered is that I hadn't changed the audio setting on my Onkyo receiver to "multichannel", which is appropriate when using individual surround channel analog inputs to connect to the BD55. This may or may not apply to different brands of receivers. I finally got everything set right and blu-ray looks and sounds amazing with the BD55.

You got your sub to work also? How did you get that to work?

I have the BD55 hooked up to my receiver through the 5.1 audio inputs. On my Yamaha RX-V995 it was futured proofed by these inputs but I need to switch the receiver to "external decoder" in order to get the sound to work.

So everytime I watch a blu ray I'll have to hit this button and then turn it off for everything else. It makes sense that the receiver would have to "know" when you want to use these inputs and when you don't.
post #3314 of 14978
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Originally Posted by Longballsd View Post

You got your sub to work also? How did you get that to work?

I have the BD55 hooked up to my receiver through the 5.1 audio inputs. On my Yamaha RX-V995 it was futured proofed by these inputs but I need to switch the receiver to "external decoder" in order to get the sound to work.

So everytime I watch a blu ray I'll have to hit this button and then turn it off for everything else. It makes sense that the receiver would have to "know" when you want to use these inputs and when you don't.

If your receiver is an older one, like mine, that does not decode HD-audio, then yes, you'll probably need to switch the input mode when watching blu-rays to get HD-audio. However, I believe that you should still get (lossy) audio even if you don't switch it to external decoder. The newer receivers w/HDMI and HD audio decoding probably switch to the best settings automatically.

If your sub still doesn't work, I would first check your connections, make sure the V.surround special effect is off, run the speaker config test on your receiver, then run the BD55's speaker test and make sure the sub is recognized.
post #3315 of 14978
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Originally Posted by jayridescarbon View Post

It will only stay set on 24p for blu-ray. For dvd, if you want 24p you have to set it each and every time you play a dvd by using the display button.

I was about to purchase the 55, my first bluray...My tv is the Pioneer 150. On another comparison thread, it said one of the cons against this player was it doesn't force 24hz...Is that a problem? Is that true? Seems it can't be selected?? My tv has 24 playback as well as 60 I believe (what do those mean anyway?)...(I am lost as a newbie here with bluray)...When I put a disc in does it automatically go to a setting or do I select one? (Is 24 better or preferred over 60?) Thanks for helping me out here
post #3316 of 14978
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Originally Posted by izub View Post

I was about to purchase the 55, my first bluray...My tv is the Pioneer 150. On another comparison thread, it said one of the cons against this player was it doesn't force 24hz...Is that a problem? Is that true? Seems it can't be selected?? My tv has 24 playback as well as 60 I believe (what do those mean anyway?)...(I am lost as a newbie here with bluray)...When I put a disc in does it automatically go to a setting or do I select one? (Is 24 better or preferred over 60?) Thanks for helping me out here

I don't own the Pioneer, but I've been around here long enough in the Panasonic threads. I don't recall anyone having any compatability problems with either.

S~
post #3317 of 14978
Thanks for the assurance re the stop/pause function. New to Bluray and my search of this forum musta been misleading as I found nothing related. Will adjust for the Java "advancement" in an otherwise wonderful home theatrical experience!
=)
post #3318 of 14978
I have a Marantz SR7002 with latest FW. I was watching Batman Begins in True HD (Bitstreamed from Panny BD35k with the latest FW). During the movie I was getting very short (0.1s maybe) audio dropouts at random spots. If I rewind the movie they don't happen in the same spot. It doesn't look like th HDMI connection is losing sync because the display on the reciever doesn't change during the dropout. I tried a different cable without change; although they are both monoprice cables. Any suggestions? Someone in the Marantz thread said they had the same problem with this player with both Bitstreaming and LPCM; what's everyone else's experiance? Is there a bug with this player and the HD codecs/HDMI?
post #3319 of 14978
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Originally Posted by tu_ezguy View Post

Thanks for the assurance re the stop/pause function. New to Bluray and my search of this forum musta been misleading as I found nothing related. Will adjust for the Java "advancement" in an otherwise wonderful home theatrical experience!
=)

The second part of your question was not answered. I usually use the "skip" button to go through the trailers fast if you can't get to the menu right away.
post #3320 of 14978
So I've listened to a few blu-ray movies on my BD55 so far and I've noticed that DTS MA is about 10DB louder than DD True HD. Has anyone else noticed this? I understand that DTS has quite a bit more information in it over DD, but wanted to see if anyone else here has noticed this as well or if it's perhaps just my Denon 4306 AVR that I LPCM out via HDMI from the BD55.
post #3321 of 14978
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Originally Posted by Longballsd View Post

So everytime I watch a blu ray I'll have to hit this button and then turn it off for everything else. It makes sense that the receiver would have to "know" when you want to use these inputs and when you don't.

Yes, that's the way it works. The receiver needs to know where to find the audio. If you have a good remote, you include the external input button in the settings for watching Blu-ray and it works just like any other "activity" set-up.

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Originally Posted by mark754 View Post

If your receiver is an older one, like mine, that does not decode HD-audio, then yes, you'll probably need to switch the input mode when watching blu-rays to get HD-audio. However, I believe that you should still get (lossy) audio even if you don't switch it to external decoder.

If you have also run a digital connection from the player to the receiver, then you can get lossy over your S/PDIF path. Otherwise , you have to select the external inputs in order to get sound.
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The newer receivers w/HDMI and HD audio decoding probably switch to the best settings automatically.

Only if you are using HDMI. With external analog, you will always have to tell the receiver to find the sound there. To the best of my knowledge, there's no sensing or auto-selection involved with those inputs.
post #3322 of 14978
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Originally Posted by wstanko View Post


Once the BD completely loads and begins, I always check two things.
1. My TV info button, that tells me the resolution to be 1080p @ 24
2. My BD audio output (looking for lossless if on the disk)

That check tells me that all is right. BTW, these two settings have never been wrong, and they default there without intervention.

Well, I must admit that yesterday's viewing of "I AM Legend" proved me wrong about those defaults. I checked upon startup and all appeared to be exactly what I wanted. But while watching (and listening), it occurred to me that the movie just did not sound special, like the other 10 BD's I've done. About half way through, I brought up the Audio Info and scrolled to the number 2 selection.

Bam! That took the paper bags off the speakers and startled me. The Dolby TrueHD 5.1 was not the default and much the superior. I will now begin to preview the setup options before beginning.
post #3323 of 14978
Just to report on my dvd upconvert experiences with the BD35, now that I have a new LN52A650 with 1080P!!! The 1080p upconvert on this looks awesome!!! I watched some of SW II and LOTR last night and WOW!!! I am in hi-def heaven, finally!
post #3324 of 14978
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Originally Posted by Josh's HT View Post

So I've listened to a few blu-ray movies on my BD55 so far and I've noticed that DTS MA is about 10DB louder than DD True HD. Has anyone else noticed this? I understand that DTS has quite a bit more information in it over DD, but wanted to see if anyone else here has noticed this as well or if it's perhaps just my Denon 4306 AVR that I LPCM out via HDMI from the BD55.

Dolby uses "dialnorm", which may reduce the overall volume level. The quality is the same. You just have to increase the volume a bit with Dolby to get the same output levels.

As for DTS having more information, that is not the case with lossless. TrueHD and dts-MA both use variable bit rates, taking whatever bandwidth they need at any given moment. Because they are lossless, the output of each is identical. Volume may different, though, as noted above.
post #3325 of 14978
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Originally Posted by Longballsd View Post

I made sure that the HDMI audio was off and it is off. When I get home from work today I will check all the cable connections and do all of the usual troubleshooting things.

I still have my Oppo 981 hooked up and it is DVD 1 in my Harmony 880 and everything works fine when I switch to that player which I'll use for standard DVD's.

It's only the BD55 that I have set on DVD2 that gets the sound only from the mains. Weird.

Also, I should be using the 2+5.1 setting and not the 7.1 setting right? I tried both settings but the result was the same. I have a 5.1 system. Thanks

I don't think there's a difference between using the 2-ch +5.1-ch setting and the 7.1-ch setting as long as you do turn off the 2 rear speakers in the 7.1-ch speaker configuration panel in the BD55.

I'm surprised you can assign the multi-channel input to more than one source on your receiver though. Is that what you've done or is there a "multi-channel input" command that you're also sending in the Harmony for this activity?

I would make sure to disconnect any other connections during the testing (HDMI, fiber or coax) between the player and the receiver. If you have the digital audio output set to PCM and you hook up your fiberoptic or coax outputs to the receiver's coax or fiber input, then it would be two-channel PCM for everything, but I assume you would have noticed that.

In any case, disconnect everything but the 5.1-ch analog outputs from the BD55 just to be sure you know what you're listening to.

-CB
post #3326 of 14978
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Originally Posted by JonHan View Post

Is there a downside to just turning 24p on and leaving it on?
Will it adversely affect playing normal DVD's ?
My TV supports 24p.

Thanks.

Jay answered you about regular DVDs, and as for Blu-rays, although the unit does not have a "source direct" mode, it does detect native 1080i/60 material on the disc (sourced from 1080i/60 or 1080p/30) and it automatically disables 24p output slectively for those titles (as it should). So the answer is "No" - no drawback to leaving 24p on, in the set-up menu as long as your TV supports it.

-CB
post #3327 of 14978
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Originally Posted by BIslander View Post

Dolby uses "dialnorm", which may reduce the overall volume level. The quality is the same. You just have to increase the volume a bit with Dolby to get the same output levels.

As for DTS having more information, that is not the case with lossless. TrueHD and dts-MA both use variable bit rates, taking whatever bandwidth they need at any given moment. Because they are lossless, the output of each is identical. Volume may different, though, as noted above.

Thanks BIslander. I'm new to the amazing world of blu-ray and didn't know that that lossless audio had the same information. Thank you for the clarification, I agree that the audio sounds basically the same with the only exception being volume output, whcih is easily corrected.
post #3328 of 14978
Im wondering if anyone can help me out i have a bd55 and it will not allow me to access bd-live through my router. The router is a d-link DIR-655. I have tried unblocking everything imaginable and registering the mac address as well nothing seems to allow it to access bd-live. As soon as i plug it directly from modem it works flawlessly. This is really driving me insanse it seems like nothing will work. Any tips would be greatly appreciated.

Thank You
post #3329 of 14978
Now available for BD55 adding 4 spdiff output for a fairly simple DIY install.

Just what I need to feed my av amp with digital audiostreams across spdif for all 7.1 channels:

http://www.switch-box.com/S_PDIF_ins...tallation.html
post #3330 of 14978
Hello, been reading here to get to know BD35. I am looking to get this. Here's my current setup:

Bravo D1 DVD player
Yamaha RX-V1700 amp
Infocus SP4805

Appreciate feedback on what to look out for etc in this setup.

Thanks
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