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post #901 of 14894
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Originally Posted by boylan13 View Post

I've noticed the same behavior with DVDs on the BD55 - reverting back to 60p output even though 24p is selected in the set-up menu. I've found that I can "force" it back to 24p during DVD playback in the "Display" menu on the BD55, but I'm not sure why this is necessary.

It's been suggested that possibly it's the fault of the Onkyo receiver in the chain preventing the 24FPS output when its on-screen menu is enabled but I have not verified this or tested with a direct connection to the display to see if it still occurs. Plus it doesn't happen on BD so that's why I don't suspect the receiver. Since I can force it to 24p in the Display menu, I'm not too worried about it.

I don't think its your receiver. I'm connected directly to the TV via HDMI, with 24P enabled in the HDMI setup menu.

Every time I insert a DVD, I have to go to the Display menu and activate 24P (When 24p is not enabled in the Setup menu, this option is not present.) Blu-rays switch to 24P automatically.

I am glad someone decided to call this a "bug." I was thinking of it as an "annoying default."
post #902 of 14894
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Originally Posted by boylan13 View Post

Yeah but I won't start to complain about that until my screen size reaches 200 inches (and that would require a new house or at least knocking out a wall or two) so I'm OK with BD being native 16:9 with no 2.35:1 anamoprhic option.

-CB

But how bout this: the Speed Racer blu-ray has special features that were shot at 16x9, but windowboxed! How absurd is that!

I am sure there is a good reason, but it really seems silly to me.....
post #903 of 14894
I also have the same issue with my Marantz SR7002, is similer to the SR8002, I wonder if you have had the firmware upgrade H38 for your AVR. I have not, perhaps the Marantz is producing no sound instead of pops with the BD35? This has been a problem with some AVR's that have a signal bitstreamed to them.
post #904 of 14894
I don't know if anyone has posted as I did a search of this thread and may passed over it without noticing it but Best Buy is finally getting the 35s in. I picked one up at my local store (Downers Grove, IL) yesterday. They had just received 7 (now 6). No word on 55s yet. BB tends to be slow with getting stuff as Fry's and Circuit City in the area had them for a week already. Same for the Sony 550 as well. I had 10% off coupon and $80 in reward zone so that's why I waited.

Now I have both the 35 & 550 sitting in my living room and will test both to see which one I like better. I don't need the analogs of the 550 or 55. I tried the Pio 51 and loved the fact I can adjust the picture in player but the machine was buggy. The 350 doesn't allow you to adjust the picture and I had tried 2 350s and the people looked yellow to me on both. The 35 and 550 does allow picture adjustments so these are my choices for now. I do have a PS3 but it's rather loud as I have the original 60GB model.
post #905 of 14894
Well, I've read through this entire thread and I have picked up some great information and have as a result managed to set up my system to play a Blu-ray disc. I'm just not sure how to tell if I'm getting my video at 24p or if my audio is now coming thru with the advanced codecs.

System:

OPPO 980 connected directly to PIO 6010FD via HDMI and to Denon 2308ci via coax.
BD-35 connected to Denon 2308ci via HDMI and to 6010 via HDMI.

I believe I have followed the advice in this thread; PCM output with secondary audio ON.

When I play a disc my TV display briefly indicates 36bit on the screen and my AVR shows HDMI and Auto.

The picture looks nice and I have sound out of all speakers (although I do notice as was mentioned my volume needs to be turned up somewhat), but how can I tell if I really am set up correctly?

Thanks for the support,
Dennis
post #906 of 14894
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Originally Posted by adrian457 View Post

I don't know if anyone has posted as I did a search of this thread and may passed over it without noticing it but Best Buy is finally getting the 35s in. I picked one up at my local store (Downers Grove, IL) yesterday. They had just received 7 (now 6). No word on 55s yet. BB tends to be slow with getting stuff as Fry's and Circuit City in the area had them for a week already. Same for the Sony 550 as well. I had 10% off coupon and $80 in reward zone so that's why I waited.

Price and locating talk do not belong in this thread. Perhaps that is why you didn't find it.

Try the deals thread or **************.
post #907 of 14894
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Originally Posted by Razvanel View Post

Just got a BD55 and the firmware version on my unit is 1.1. To check the firmware do the following (same procedure as the BD30):

1. Turn on the main unit.
2. Press the [SETUP] button on the remote control to open the display menu screen.
3. Using the Up and Down cursor buttons on the remote control, select the "DISPLAY" tab - "DISPLAY" items will appear.
4. Press and hold the [STATUS] button on the remote control. While doing so, the current firmware version for your player will be displayed in the lower right hand corner of the screen (e.g. "1.1").

Thanks. I thought I read through the manual pretty carefully, but missed this.

My 35 reports FW 1.1 as well.

By the way, it is not necessary to hold the status button, at least on my 35. Just go to SETUP > DISPLAY and press Status once.
post #908 of 14894
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Originally Posted by jbenchmole View Post

thanks, i will try that. does it pay to have professional calibration if i am not that comfortable with playing with all the settings myself?

That is what everyone who has had it done think, but it's not cheap- $400-600 about. I have not done it (yet) but I am a geek who likes to tinker with settings (my wife is beyond annoyed at this point).
post #909 of 14894
To get more in-depth on the audio drop out....I've got the BD 35 hooked up to a Marantz SR 8002 via HDMI.

On the BD 35, I tried both bitstream and PCM. Had audio dropouts in both. Never had that issue with the PS3 via PCM only. Swapped cables. Swapped inputs. Same results.

It's not the SR 8002. Considering the AVR hasn't had issues with any other unit I've got connected, I've ruled that possibility out. Doubt very seriously it's the cables as I've never had any other problems with the cables with any other component I've used with them. They are very high quality HDMI cables from www.ac4l.com.

Perhaps I did get a bad unit.

I don't know whether I'd actually call it an audio drop out, per se. It's more like a "stutter" in the audio. Perhaps a few milliseconds of digital bits of audio are lost. Then the player tries to "catch up".

I also note that secondary audio has to be turned off in order to get the bitstreamed HD codecs to work. I don't know why that would be an issue, given I really want to have secondary audio "on" in order to matrix my rear channels with the 8002 (something I can do with the PS3).
post #910 of 14894
What do i need to connect to my BD35 in order to access my home wireless network?

Marlin
post #911 of 14894
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Originally Posted by marlin View Post

What do i need to connect to my BD35 in order to access my home wireless network?

Marlin

A wireless bridge.

For example
post #912 of 14894
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Originally Posted by graphicguy View Post

I also note that secondary audio has to be turned off in order to get the bitstreamed HD codecs to work. I don't know why that would be an issue, given I really want to have secondary audio "on" in order to matrix my rear channels with the 8002 (something I can do with the PS3).

If you set the BD35 digital audio output to PCM, then DTS-HD is automatically matrixed from 5.1 to 7.1-channel PCM and secondary audio can be left on.

The PS3 doesn't support raw DTS-HD or True HD bitstream output so I'm not sure I get you on the PS3 comparison. Are you saying the PS3 automatically matrixes *all* 5.1-ch sountracks to 7.1 over PCM? That seems a little odd.

-CB
post #913 of 14894
Great Thread...

I picked up some solid tips. I have the BD-55 and i just want to confirm a couple things to make sure i have it hooked up correctly. I believe so, but we shall see here.

Ok i am running hdmi to the hdtv (hdmi audio set to off) then for audio analog outputs to my onkyo receiver. Now i only have a 5.1 PSB speaker setup. But where i see conflicting posts is whether i should have the bd-55 set to bitstream or pcm to get the newer audio formats.

Is this what i want for my particular setup to be able to listen to the newer audio formats ?

1.) Set digital audio output to "bitstream" for both formats and leave it there.
2.) Set the analog output to 7.1 and leave it there.
3.) Set HDMI audio output to OFF and leave it there.
post #914 of 14894
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Originally Posted by boylan13 View Post

If you set the BD35 digital audio output to PCM, then DTS-HD is automatically matrixed from 5.1 to 7.1-channel PCM and secondary audio can be left on.

The PS3 doesn't support raw DTS-HD or True HD bitstream output so I'm not sure I get you on the PS3 comparison. Are you saying the PS3 automatically matrixes *all* 5.1-ch sountracks to 7.1 over PCM? That seems a little odd.

-CB

Thanks for the tip. I didn't look to see if PCM settings on the BD 35 would allow DTS-HD to matrix the rear surrounds. I'll give that a shot, though.

PS3 must be set to LPCM to get the DTS-HD codecs. That said, the PS3 is actually doing the decoding, not my SR 8002. What's happening is the 8002 is actually receiving the 5.1 HD codes already decoded. Then, my SR 8002 matrixes the 5.1 to 7.1 (actually, my set up is 6.1).

This is something I tried to do with the BD35, but couldn't. Makes no sense to me, but I can't. That tells me there's a "flaw" in the data stream that's coming from the BD 35 somewhere that I don't have with the PS3.

Don't know if it's related to the audio stutters/drop-outs I'm experiencing with the BD 35 or not.

I can't get any of the HD audio formats to work, at all, with secondary audio turned off with the BD 35. Standard Dolby Digital and DTS works just fine, though.
post #915 of 14894
Hi. I'd like to thank everyone who has contributed to these forums. I just got my 55 yesterday and am pleased at the features it has. I got it at CC and it was the only one they had, in fact it wasn't even out on the floor yet. I have a question. Does anyone else's unit get extremely hot on the right underside? I had the unit on for about a half hour while doing the setup and noticed that the metal underside, on the right, was extremely hot to the touch. I'm just wondering if that is normal or not for this unit. Thanks in advance.
post #916 of 14894
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Originally Posted by DeathKnight View Post

A wireless bridge.

For example

Anyone had success using a laptop as the wireless bridge? I managed to configure mine to compatibliltiy mode and had success when testing it wired to the PS3, but the PS3 lets me configure security settings.

Doesn't seem any way to do it with the player, unless ther'e some place to do it in the Windows XP bridge settings I don't know about.
post #917 of 14894
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Originally Posted by JBRare View Post

Hi. I'd like to thank everyone who has contributed to these forums. I just got my 55 yesterday and am pleased at the features it has. I got it at CC and it was the only one they had, in fact it wasn't even out on the floor yet. I have a question. Does anyone else's unit get extremely hot on the right underside? I had the unit on for about a half hour while doing the setup and noticed that the metal underside, on the right, was extremely hot to the touch. I'm just wondering if that is normal or not for this unit. Thanks in advance.

The main processing chips are on the underside of the internal PCB and use the metal chassis as a heatsink, so you should definitely feel heat there. Now how much heat I don't know. I'll have to check mine out when I get home.
post #918 of 14894
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Originally Posted by snsguy View Post

Is this just for the 35 or the 55 to?

SNSGUY

I see it mention only the 35.. But when you open up the pdf file and read the fine print it never states bd35 only, although the player pictured is the 35. I have the 55 myself and would like to send in the offer. Seems odd that it would be restricted to the 35 only, but i guess it is possible.
post #919 of 14894
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Originally Posted by JBRare View Post

Hi. I'd like to thank everyone who has contributed to these forums. I just got my 55 yesterday and am pleased at the features it has. I got it at CC and it was the only one they had, in fact it wasn't even out on the floor yet. I have a question. Does anyone else's unit get extremely hot on the right underside? I had the unit on for about a half hour while doing the setup and noticed that the metal underside, on the right, was extremely hot to the touch. I'm just wondering if that is normal or not for this unit. Thanks in advance.

There was a previous post with the same issue one page back. As someone who is planning to get the 55, I am curious as to whether this is an issue with others too.
post #920 of 14894
I am looking for expert assistance in setting up the 35 for connection to a hdmi 1.1 equipped reciever and 720 pj to recieve the advanced audio codecs and best video available.

Surely someone has already completed the setup to a similar equipped reciever.

I wonder why a previous poster suggested to check post #833 to answer my questions posed previous. This post has no reference to proper set up of the 35 to recieve HD audio. Nor does it relate to my other question posed of whether the video should be set to auto or the native resolution of the display.

Page 8 of the manual relates to the audio and is not very clear. I am going to use HDMI. Can someone who has already connected in this manner please detail the settings for correct replay.
post #921 of 14894
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Originally Posted by slogun View Post

Same, but go into your account on CC.com and print out your invoice.

The shipping label on my CC delivery was a perferated "tear-apart" type of affair, with the invoice/receipt printed on the reverse side.
post #922 of 14894
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Originally Posted by JBRare View Post

Hi. I'd like to thank everyone who has contributed to these forums. I just got my 55 yesterday and am pleased at the features it has. I got it at CC and it was the only one they had, in fact it wasn't even out on the floor yet. I have a question. Does anyone else's unit get extremely hot on the right underside? I had the unit on for about a half hour while doing the setup and noticed that the metal underside, on the right, was extremely hot to the touch. I'm just wondering if that is normal or not for this unit. Thanks in advance.


After about 3hrs. of runtime, mine is pretty warm.. don't think I'd describe it as "extremely hot ", tho.
I'd suggest you check to see if the (rear) fan is functioning & has good ventilation clearance.
post #923 of 14894
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Originally Posted by Jack Gilvey View Post

This only happens with DVD? If so, it makes sense as DVD is not encoded at 24fps.

For me, it's happening with some BDs.
post #924 of 14894
Wow, fast moving thread. I haven't had a chance to go back through entire thread but has there been any 'issues' such as (freezes / lockups/ just won't play a certain disc) with either the 35 or 55 yet?
post #925 of 14894
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Originally Posted by JBRare View Post

Does anyone else's unit get extremely hot on the right underside? I had the unit on for about a half hour while doing the setup and noticed that the metal underside, on the right, was extremely hot to the touch. I'm just wondering if that is normal or not for this unit. Thanks in advance.

I haven't felt the underside of my BD35 yet, but someone posted yesterday they noticed the same spot you mentioned felt too hot to touch.
Seems strange that a 20 watt device could generate that much heat.
post #926 of 14894
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Originally Posted by Dovetails View Post

Wow, fast moving thread. I haven't had a chance to go back through entire thread but has there been any 'issues' such as (freezes / lockups/ just won't play a certain disc) with either the 35 or 55 yet?

I've been following this entire thread and now own the 35 and I've seen no pattern of consistent bugs or errors. Seems like a couple of solid players and virtually everyone is very happy so far.

Certain discs have been buggy for some people. Heavily java-laden discs take longer to boot.
The player needs an SD card to access BD Live, so if you try to do that without a card your unit may freeze up.
post #927 of 14894
I just placed my order for the DMP-BD55 at the EPPP. I can't wait to see it when it arrives.

The both the 35/55 became available to order from the site today.
post #928 of 14894
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Originally Posted by wstanko View Post

In the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette about a month ago, Don Lindich in his weekly tech article stated that with modest systems it would sound like a great speaker upgrade, and with high end systems you will shake your head in disbelief.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08265/913613-468.stm

Nah.........Maybe concerts and some movies with a lot of surround effects, but for most movies......Yes there's a difference, but it won't make your head spin. Certainly not the difference that say, DVD Audio or SACD had/has over CD.
In my opinion, there's a lot of hype involved.
post #929 of 14894
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Originally Posted by DeathKnight View Post

A wireless bridge.

For example

I always find bridges to be overpriced or not offering enough ports so I can plug everything into it. I would suggest getting a cheap router that accepts the DD-WRT firmware which will allow you to configure the router to be a wireless bridge.
post #930 of 14894
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Originally Posted by snave8 View Post

Nah.........Maybe concerts and some movies with a lot of surround effects, but for most movies......Yes there's a difference, but it won't make your head spin. Certainly not the difference that say, DVD Audio or SACD had/has over CD.
In my opinion, there's a lot of hype involved.

Well, nothing can truly make our heads spin on our necks anyway, right?
The opinion stated in the article was that it is considered worthwhile to upgrade your equipment in order to be able to enjoy HD, Lossless codecs.
On that point, I believe virtually everyone on this forum would agree.

(and yes, I pretty much did "shake my head in disbelief" upon listening to some scenes in Ironman and The Hulk)
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