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Optoma HD806 Review & Screenshots

post #1 of 45
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The new Optoma HD806 is a budget priced projector using Ti's .95 1080p chip. This model is similar to the HD81 HD81LV and HD80, but it's closer to the HD81LV. It uses a newer RGBCYM color wheel with brilliant color II to obtain it's high brightness. Also there is AI II and Uni-shape to increase the contrast. The projector has a 16 stepped Iris that can be used in auto mode or a static setting. It's rated at 2000 lumens and about 8000.1 CR.

My testing OTB showed 1600 lumens on my 106" diagonal screen using my light meter. After tuning to D65k it was 945 lumens. That's a very high brightness level for being tuned down for HT viewing. Highest I've seen so far. It can go closer to 2000 lumens by using the bright video choice but the color temp is very high in that setting far from the D65 setting for HT.

I did some CR testing with my light meter and colorfacts also. With the user options on for AI and Auto Iris I got 7000.1 using my light meter and 6000.1 using colorfacts. Turning off auto iris and AI I got 3000.1.
http://www.cigarbest.com/sales/optomahd80616.jpg

Here's the colorfacts chart for CIE and grayscale after tuning. It's blue that's a little more saturated Red and Green are close to ref/spec.
http://www.cigarbest.com/sales/hd806grayscaleD65k.jpg

The OTB grayscale showed Red and Green spot on across the 65k line, while blue was 20% higher and straight across the line. So warm was slightly towards cool. Alot of companies prefer the slight cooler image.

One test run with the light meter very close to the PJ I got and interesting reading of
0.07 low and 85.5 high which if I calculate right is 12144.1 with auto items enabled. Allot will choose not
to use the auto setup. There is brightness pumping but it's harder to see than the HD81 and LV I tested. Still
you'll be able to spot it at times.


Now on to some screenshots of some of my favorites. enjoy

Bruce Lee
http://www.cigarbest.com/sales/optomahd8061.jpg
http://www.cigarbest.com/sales/optomahd8062.jpg
http://www.cigarbest.com/sales/optomahd8063.jpg
http://www.cigarbest.com/sales/optomahd8064.jpg

HD-DVE
http://www.cigarbest.com/sales/optomahd8065.jpg (Joe Kane in the center back boozing it up) Looks pretty happy.
http://www.cigarbest.com/sales/optomahd8066.jpg (Excellent Blue Red & Yellow, green is slightly Lime typical of every DLP)
http://www.cigarbest.com/sales/optomahd8067.jpg (here you can see the grays look very good and res is tight seen clearly in the lettering)

Fifth Element
http://www.cigarbest.com/sales/optomahd8068.jpg
http://www.cigarbest.com/sales/optomahd8069.jpg
http://www.cigarbest.com/sales/optomahd80610.jpg
http://www.cigarbest.com/sales/optomahd80611.jpg

Matrix
http://www.cigarbest.com/sales/optomahd80612.jpg
http://www.cigarbest.com/sales/optomahd80613.jpg

Dante's Peak
http://www.cigarbest.com/sales/optomahd80614.jpg
http://www.cigarbest.com/sales/optomahd80615.jpg

Very nice super bright images with good color saturation. I've been viewing a 720p for so long I forgot how much better 1080p looks. Yes 720p looks good but 1080p looks so much better. The resolution difference is very obvious to me.

The projector availability was slow in coming but you should see it at some AVS sponsors now, also don't forget AVS where we love to hang is a Optoma dealer and will give you a competitive price. Pls check with AVS first, give back to the forum.

Edit:
AVS can be contacted here. Hi Alan hope your link isn't against the rules. People were asking me where?
http://www.avscience.com/contact.htm
post #2 of 45
Thanks, Tom, for putting up your review and screenshots.

Also, is there any control over brilliant color II or is it automatic like
Uni-shape?
post #3 of 45
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I hope you all have fast computers because I left the screenshots at high resolution. Res on the PJ looks pretty good heh?

Those picutres are after tuning to D65k with a 2.2 gamma and using no AI with the IRIS at it's smallest aperture, which is the number 16 setting.
post #4 of 45
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AVS can be contacted here. Hi Alan hope your link isn't against the rules. People were asking me where?
http://www.avscience.com/contact.htm
post #5 of 45
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Originally Posted by guitarman View Post

I hope you all have fast computers because I left the screenshots at high resolution. Res on the PJ looks pretty good heh?

Those picutres are after tuning to D65k with a 2.2 gamma and using no AI with the IRIS at it's smallest aperture, which is the number 16 setting.

So I assume the brightness #'s in your original post were from the iris fully open? Any estimate on the range of brightness from fully open to fully closed?

Thanks.
post #6 of 45
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Yes that's right Iris open, fully closed you can knock lumens down to 600 for better blacks. Still it looks pretty bright. I couldn't use the fully closed Iris setting with the HD81LV and HD81, too much brightness was lost. I think we ended up using the 12 stop or a 25% brightness boost.
post #7 of 45
Tom, is brilliant color II contollable by the user? On other units it is, I can't find a control for it on the 806.
post #8 of 45
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No it's there and set by the factory in different levels for the various choices, Cinema, TV, PC etc but there's no control for it. They did a nice job setting it so color tone especially facile tones remain natural. Highly saturated yet natural looking. Optoma did that with the HD65 and HD71 but this one's looking even better. Wing said they changed the sizes of colors on the RGBCYM wheel to help coloring be even more natural.
post #9 of 45
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I'll have to take something back. I've viewed several movies and TV shows using the Auto-Iris and I find it hard to detect as long as you disable the AI function. I've checked the Iris numbers for different materials brightness levels and it moves very slowly till it see's a brighter or darker scene for a longer period of time. Then it will just open or close the Iris in small increments. Optoma definitely made changes in the protocol and my apologies to the tech people for not noticing it sooner.
post #10 of 45
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I'll have to take something back. I've viewed several movies and TV shows using the Auto-Iris and I find it hard to detect as long as you disable the AI function.

Also playing around with the 806, it can be wonderul at times, like on a good Blu Ray disc it is spectacular, but on other formats, like standard def TV channels, it's not as good. I get these small horizontal lines on some shots, almost like jaggies. It doesn't appear all the time, but I must say my HD 70 does a better job in this area. I just don't get why Optoma engineers, getting it right once, wouldn't be able to do it with the 806. Another quibble is the mislabled 1080i/30 when it's outputting 1080i/60; there is no excuse for this sloppy implementation of an easy software fix. It seemed rushed.
post #11 of 45
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I'll test out 480i for you, the PJ has the pixelworks chip which has always been excellent.
Do you have your STB set to 480p? if so try 480i if you can.
post #12 of 45
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Originally Posted by guitarman View Post

I'll test out 480i for you, the PJ has the pixelworks chip which has always been excellent.
Do you have your STB set to 480p? if so try 480i if you can.

Thanks, I appreciate that. I'll check, right now I'm in Manhattan and the unit is upstate. The Optimum cable set top box software has a set up menu, which is not readily available. You have to power down the unit and run setup. If it has the option, I'll check it off.
post #13 of 45
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Ok I checked 480i against 480p with my Panasonic S97 with the component connection. The pixelworks chip did great with the Star Trek Insurrection opening rooftop scene. It passed HQVs jaggies test 1 & 2 and film detail also. I swtiched over to the faroudja chip in the pany and the faroudja chip edged out the pixel works chip ever so slighty. Both are doing very good jobs.

The comcast box has that secret menu also, it defaults to 480p. But does have a 480i overide choice.
post #14 of 45
Thanks, I'll try it.
post #15 of 45
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In case anyone missed it. There's a new 1080p killer in town.
post #16 of 45
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I didn't test Ansi contrast but you can see by the pictures it's more than excellent. One of the high points of a good DLP projector.

Leeloo here is popping right off the screen, best shots I've seen from me with a HT projector.
http://www.cigarbest.com/sales/optomahd80611.jpg
post #17 of 45
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Originally Posted by guitarman View Post

In case anyone missed it. There's a new 1080p killer in town.

Optoma's throw distance is too long for me... it needs to be more like Epson projectors.

10 feet 100" should be all projector manufacturers starting point.
post #18 of 45
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That's for sure I have the PJ back about 15'.
post #19 of 45
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Originally Posted by guitarman View Post

I didn't test Ansi contrast but you can see by the pictures it's more than excellent. One of the high points of a good DLP projector.

Leeloo here is popping right off the screen, best shots I've seen from me with a HT projector.
http://www.cigarbest.com/sales/optomahd80611.jpg

What kind of camera do you use to take those screenshots?
post #20 of 45
guitarman,

You said that the HD806 is closer to the HD81LV. Can you please elaborate on that in more detail? i.e. a comparison b/w the two considering the HD806 is at less than half the price of the two? Thanks.
post #21 of 45
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Originally Posted by ionyou View Post

What kind of camera do you use to take those screenshots?

Older Olympus D-550 3 mega pixel, same camera I've use on all my reviews.
post #22 of 45
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Originally Posted by speedtriplex View Post

guitarman,

You said that the HD806 is closer to the HD81LV. Can you please elaborate on that in more detail? i.e. a comparison b/w the two considering the HD806 is at less than half the price of the two? Thanks.


The HD81LV you get the scaler box and it also uses a RGBCYM wheel.

But the HD806 you get a newer tweaked RGBCYM wheel plus brilliant color II & Uni-shape, it has the pixelworks chip which I tested and it does a good job on deinterlacing, not as good as the Gennum chip but good enough. They're both super bright projectors which can handle very large screens.

Personally the colors look much better on the newer machines with brilliant color II, with the HD806 being the best at creating vibrant color with more natural looking hues.
post #23 of 45
Anyone know the color wheel speed on the HD806? Thanks, Paul
post #24 of 45
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The engineering mgr. told me 4x speed. It's not a rainbow freakout projector at least for me, I never see them. Pj's up to 100hrs now and it's looking even better now.
post #25 of 45
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Originally Posted by guitarman View Post

The engineering mgr. told me 4x speed. It's not a rainbow freakout projector at least for me, I never see them. Pj's up to 100hrs now and it's looking even better now.


Do you know which TI chipset is used in the 806?
post #26 of 45
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Ti's .95 1080p chip
post #27 of 45
I'm going to guess mark2061 really wants to know whether this is a DC1/DC2/etc... ??
post #28 of 45
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Probably right, DC2 same as in the HD80 but what stands this PJ apart is the high tuned brighness level of near 1000 lumens letting you use the totally closed Iris for dark movie watching. Blacks and ansi look great with the Iris at 16 max closed, yet the image is still bright enough. I couldn't do that with the HD80 or the HD81.
post #29 of 45
I am helping a friend with his executive office theater/conference room setup, therefore I want a very bright projector. In other words the room will have couches and a conference table. The huge room will have have dimmable lights but some light from windows 30" away will still be visible. He will use the projector for 50% HD/ 50% data presentations. My initial thought was the new pt-ae3000u, but I am not sure it will be bright enough. At this point I am leaning towards the pt-ax200u b/c the price is right and it is very bright, but it is only 720p. The screen will be about 100" and the projector will be about 12"-15" away. He is willing to spend up to $2500, but up until this HD806, there was no 1080p projector available in that range with this level of brightness. I don't want to have to run the projector in "torch" mode. I know the posted specs on both are 2000 lumens, but I know better than to believe specs.

Is the HD806 as bright as the PT-AX200U? Are there other options I should consider?

Thanks
post #30 of 45
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Originally Posted by clthoma2 View Post

I am helping a friend with his executive office theater/conference room setup, therefore I want a very bright projector. In other words the room will have couches and a conference table. The huge room will have have dimmable lights but some light from windows 30" away will still be visible. He will use the projector for 50% HD/ 50% data presentations. My initial thought was the new pt-ae3000u, but I am not sure it will be bright enough. At this point I am leaning towards the pt-ax200u b/c the price is right and it is very bright, but it is only 720p. The screen will be about 100" and the projector will be about 12"-15" away. He is willing to spend up to $2500, but up until this HD806, there was no 1080p projector available in that range with this level of brightness. I don't want to have to run the projector in "torch" mode. I know the posted specs on both are 2000 lumens, but I know better than to believe specs.

Is the HD806 as bright as the PT-AX200U? Are there other options I should consider?

Thanks

Well, for one the HD 806 is a DLP projector and the Panny is LCD. I much prefer the DLP image. The 806 is really bright. I own it and can watch HD conent in a room where there is lots of light. Of course you do sacrifice color fidelity somehat, but I usually just open the iris rather than go into bright mode. It works quite well.

I have the unit upstate and can't wait to go there this weekend -- I bought Journey to the Center of the Earth Blu Ray in 3-D. Can't wait to see that stuff coming at me on the 130" diagonal setup i have.
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