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post #121 of 396
Well let's see on Amazon

Sony BDP-S550 is $329 18% off

Panasonic DMP-BD55K $369 8% off
post #122 of 396
Any difference in 1080i deinterlacing for film or video based content? Will they both correctly deinterlace 3:2 and 2:2 pulldown? Can either pass through 1080i encoded video directly without going through setup to disable 1080p (source direct mode)?
post #123 of 396
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Originally Posted by BIslander View Post

The Panasonic does lossless when mixing in secondary audio. The Sony does not. (I don't think the audio quality matters with secondary tracks. It's an ease of use issue where the Sony requires changing the audio menu to listen to commentaries.)

BIslander, are you saying that the Panasonic can do secondary audio while bitstreaming, or that it needs to internally decode but is easy to switch to that mode? I recall reading a review of the BD35 a few weeks ago (but I can't seem to find it now) where it specifically said that you had to clumsily switch from bitstream to internal-decode from an audio menu to get secondary audio. They even showed a picture of the setting screen. It's one of the reasons I took the BD35 off my list of potential buys, but if it can do secondary audio with bitstreaming on, either automatically or with an easy button press, I'll put that puppy right back on the list.

Thanks,
-JimmyHDTV
post #124 of 396
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Originally Posted by ES_2008 View Post

I'm trying to decide between DMP-BD35 and BDP-S550. They are roughly the same price so I'm trying to pick the best out of the two. My receiver is HDMI 1.2 capable so it can receive up to 7.1 PCM via HDMI

I actually just received my Panny DMP-BD35K today. You have a similar setup to mine, but my receiver only does HDMI 1.1. I can't speak for the Sony S550, but as for the BD35...

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)Excellent Blu-ray image quality

Haven't done any calibration, but it looks excellent to me.

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)Stable and glitch free operation

Only had it for a day, of course, but so far, so good.

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)Relatively fast. I don't expect PS3 fast, but something faster than my BDP-S1

My dad has a Sony BDP-S1, and my BD35 is noticably faster with the Iron Man BD. It seems to live up to all the review claims speed-wise.

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)DTS-MA decoding especially for 7.1 tracks. I don't want to the player to downmix 7.1 to 5.1 when sending through HDMI

Haven't found a 7.1 DTS-HD MA title yet, but I bought Stargate (Extended Cut) on BD, which has a DTS-HD HR ES soundtrack, and I'm getting all channels in my 6.1 setup flowing with lossless codec goodness. DTS-HD MA decoding is, last I heard, still a question mark on the Sony S550 player, which is why I ended up opting for Panny.

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)No LFE bug

Doesn't seem to, but others will have to confirm/deny.

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)DVD upconversation quality. I wont use it for DVD, but I want the unit to be able to do a good job in case so kids can use it for DVDs

Haven't got to trying that yet, but I've heard good things so far - the reviews I've seen say it does way better than Panasonic's last round of players.

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Bonus View or BD-Live are not that important for me but since both of them have it it's a bonus

It does support full BD 2.0 out of the box - however, it does require an SD card of at least 1 GB to be BD-Live ready (got one for $13 at the local Best Buy, can probably be had cheaper online).
post #125 of 396
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Originally Posted by JimmyHDTV View Post

BIslander, are you saying that the Panasonic can do secondary audio while bitstreaming, or that it needs to internally decode but is easy to switch to that mode? I recall reading a review of the BD35 a few weeks ago (but I can't seem to find it now) where it specifically said that you had to clumsily switch from bitstream to internal-decode from an audio menu to get secondary audio. They even showed a picture of the setting screen. It's one of the reasons I took the BD35 off my list of potential buys, but if it can do secondary audio with bitstreaming on, either automatically or with an easy button press, I'll put that puppy right back on the list.

The Panasonic can decode the lossless track into PCM, mix in the secondary audio, and send the newly remixed version to your AVR as PCM. You can leave secondary audio ON and get lossless decodes without ever going into any menus again.

The Sony won't decode the lossless track if you have secondary audio set to ON. It uses a lossy version instead, regardless of whether there is any secondary audio to add. So, with the Sony, you have to change audio settings to switch between lossless audio and commentaries.

No player can bitstream a lossless track with secondary audio. The player would have to have a lossless encoder to make that work. None of them do.
post #126 of 396
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Originally Posted by thebland View Post

..tHe player doing so and putting out analog bypasses all the receiver's post processing that can be done in the digital domain.

.. well except when the receiver itself re-digitize its multi channel inputs. this is not uncommon in almost all last year's flagship models


so I'm very interested to know : who does analogue out better ? do we know which DAC they are using ? (The pios are quoting Wolfsen DACs...)
post #127 of 396
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Originally Posted by BIslander View Post

The Panasonic can decode the lossless track into PCM, mix in the secondary audio, and send the newly remixed version to your AVR as PCM. You can leave secondary audio ON and get lossless decodes without ever going into any menus again.

The Sony won't decode the lossless track if you have secondary audio set to ON. It uses a lossy version instead, regardless of whether there is any secondary audio to add. So, with the Sony, you have to change audio settings to switch between lossless audio and commentaries.

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I'm interested in how you know this for certain. It seems to me there's some uncertainty based on the way the players behave. Both drop the rear channels with a 7.1 source when the secondary audio is turned on. How do you know the player isn't dropping back to legacy audio for this?
post #128 of 396
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Originally Posted by cpcat View Post

I'm interested in how you know this for certain. It seems to me there's some uncertainty based on the way the players behave.

This particular issue has been clarified in most respects since these players were released. I am basing my statement on the information posted in the user threads and the manuals. Much of it comes from Chris Boylan, who did the BD55 review for Big Picture Big Sound and has been quite active in the owner's thread. You may want to pose any questions you have about the BD55 there. My BD55 arrives later this week.

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Both drop the rear channels with a 7.1 source when the secondary audio is turned on. How do you know the player isn't dropping back to legacy audio for this?

The BD55 does this for native 7.1 PCM and high bit rate Dolby, but not for high bit rate DTS. And, the footnotes explain that the 5.1 output only occurs when there is actually secondary audio to mix in. Otherwise, the output is the same as if secondary audio were set to off. Again, postings in the owner's thread confirm this performance.
post #129 of 396
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When I received the S550 over 2 weeks ago, it was working fine till 2 nights ago. The strange noises from the drive sounded like it was struggling to load blu-ray movies. I waited for about 3 minutes when it tried load Kill Bill Vol.1 that I bought from Amazon, the S550 refused to load it and refused to load my netflix rentals and other store bought blu-ray movies. My Panasonic DMP-BD35 could load the movies. I think that with the S550 it had a faulty drive.

Thanks for the update. Now, one more quick one:

About how many discs did you play in that two weeks?

I may want to stress test my 550!
post #130 of 396
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Originally Posted by modcon View Post

Thanks for the update. Now, one more quick one:

About how many discs did you play in that two weeks?

I may want to stress test my 550!

14 blu-ray movies, 10 of them came from Netflix. Out of the 10 Netflix rentals, 6 refused to load on the S550. Maybe the blu-ray movie rentals from Netflix actually ruin blu-ray players or perhaps that the S550 I had came with a bad drive . Last week I purchased the Panasonic DMP-BD35 but I might return it because it has a noisy drive when it plays blu-ray movies. Today I repurchased the S550 at Circuit City, because I had a $35 off coupon towards the purchase. I know that I can get it cheaper at amazon.com but I prefer to buy locally and lately all my packages that get delivered by UPS or Fedex arrive to my home around 8:00 pm because the city is widening the street and making a new street in the area I live in.
post #131 of 396
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Bluray.com now has changed their info to show NEC not Sigma. The only question I have remaining is it the newly released 10092 with increased processing power or the older 10068 which Bluray.com now says it is.

Sorry, couldn't update it until players became publicly available. The same main processor board is used in both Sony 350/550 players, right down to the board part number, so I didn't bother ripping the heat sink off the chip in 550. Some performance measurements of the 550 are a touch lower than the 350, so perhaps the current firmware for the 550 doesn't have the latest tweaks.

The new Sharp uses the 10092, and I would have guessed it was a really old chip from the measurements...
post #132 of 396
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Originally Posted by kjack View Post

Sorry, couldn't update it until players became publicly available. The same main processor board is used in both Sony 350/550 players, right down to the board part number, so I didn't bother ripping the heat sink off the chip in 550. Some performance measurements of the 550 are a touch lower than the 350, so perhaps the current firmware for the 550 doesn't have the latest tweaks.

The new Sharp uses the 10092, and I would have guessed it was a really old chip from the measurements...

I am so confused. The pictures posted here showed the AV123 board on the 350 and the 550 definitely has the AV124 board. Are you saying they have the same board part number?

The HDTV Polska tests on the 5000es say that the 350/550/5000es all have the EMMA3P which is the 10092.

Bluray.com said the 550 had the Sigma 8634 Rev c. until last week they changed it to the NEC 10068.
post #133 of 396
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Originally Posted by pwiss View Post

I am so confused. The pictures posted here showed the AV123 board on the 350 and the 550 definitely has the AV124 board. Are you saying they have the same board part number? The HDTV Polska tests on the 5000es say that the 350/550/5000es all have the EMMA3P which is the 10092.

Here is the photo we took of the main processor board in the 350. The same board in the 550 was identical down to the part number. Perhaps they changed the boards used in the 350 later on.

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Bluray.com said the 550 had the Sigma 8634 Rev c. until last week they changed it to the NEC 10068.

I had them update it since the 550 was now publicly available. Couldn't say anything before that, sorry...
LL
post #134 of 396
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Originally Posted by kjack View Post

Here is the photo we took of the main processor board in the 350. The same board in the 550 was identical down to the part number. Perhaps they changed the boards used in the 350 later on.

I had them update it since the 550 was now publicly available. Couldn't say anything before that, sorry...

So the newer 350's have the lastest 124 board and have been tweaked. That must mean that the 550's will be even better after a firmware update. Which is curious because it was released 3 months after the 350.

Anyway the Sigma 8644 looks better on paper than the 8634 or the 10068. When will we see this chip?

I have a Samsung 1400 which has the Sigma 8634 Rev c and the 10068 in the 550 definitely equals the 8634 in Bluray and most definitely surpasses it in SD upconversion.
post #135 of 396
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Originally Posted by Kage View Post

14 blu-ray movies, 10 of them came from Netflix. Out of the 10 Netflix rentals, 6 refused to load on the S550. Maybe the blu-ray movie rentals from Netflix actually ruin blu-ray players or perhaps that the S550 I had came with a bad drive . Last week I purchased the Panasonic DMP-BD35 but I might return it because it has a noisy drive when it plays blu-ray movies. Today I repurchased the S550 at Circuit City, because I had a $35 off coupon towards the purchase. I know that I can get it cheaper at amazon.com but I prefer to buy locally and lately all my packages that get delivered by UPS or Fedex arrive to my home around 8:00 pm because the city is widening the street and making a new street in the area I live in.

My new S550 seems a little better in reading blu-ray movies, but now its freezing up with my Netflix rentals and store bought movies. I guess the new blu-ray players this year have more problems in loading blu-ray movies. I just ordered a new PS3 from amazon.com for around $316 and people say that it is the most reliable blu-ray player that is out, people also say that there is little difference in pq among blu-ray players, and I'm a gamer also.
post #136 of 396
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My new S550 seems a little better in reading blu-ray movies, but now its freezing up with my Netflix rentals and store bought movies. I guess the new blu-ray players this year have more problems in loading blu-ray movies. I just ordered a new PS3 from amazon.com for around $316 and people say that it is the most reliable blu-ray player that is out, people also say that there is little difference in pq among blu-ray players, and I'm a gamer also.

Kage: After doing some research you have probably set the record for player purchases.

Panasonic 10,30,35,55
Sony 300,350,2-550's, PS3 40,PS3 60, PS3 80 on order
Oppo 980,981,983
Samsung 1200,2550
Toshiba A2,A20,XA2,XD-E500
X Box 360 Elite
Pioneer 51


My only question is what have you got against Denon?
post #137 of 396
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by pwiss View Post

Kage: After doing some research you have probably set the record for player purchases.

Panasonic 10,30,35,55
Sony 300,350,2-550's, PS3 40,PS3 60, PS3 80 on order
Oppo 980,981,983
Samsung 1200,2550
Toshiba A2,A20,XA2,XD-E500
X Box 360 Elite
Pioneer 51


My only question is what have you got against Denon?

I really don't like it people here check out what equipment I had in the past. To answer your question about Denon, I heard stories that their products have quality control issues.

Now regarding about the Panasonic Blu-ray players. The BD10 and BD30 blu-ray, I actually kept them and sold them on ebay serveral months ago. The 35 and 55 have very noisy drives and have average build quality.

Regarding the Samsungs blu-ray players, the 1200 refused to play blu-rays and I returned it back to the store. The P2550 had a loud buzzing fan and noisy bd drive and I returned it. Samsung is not well liked for the reputation on blu-ray players, but they are well liked for their LCD tvs.

For the Toshiba HD-DVD players, I really liked them, I sold them on ebay a few months before Toshiba admitted defeat. The XD-E500, I did not like how it enchanced the pq, so I returned it.

The Pioneer BDP-51FD, I returned it because it had a lot of bugs and my display did not benefit from it. Some of members here warned me not to get it, because of my 37" 768P LCD tv. They were right.

The Sony blu-ray players, I did not like the slow loading time on the S300 and it kept on freezing on me. I had yellow push with the S350. The S550s had problems with loading Netflicks rentals. The PS3 60GB and 40GB were very good, but I sold them because I needed the extra cash at the time.

The Xbox 360 Elite I had for about 6 months and it had the famous Red Rings of Death, I sold it about a month after it was serviced by Microsoft.

The Oppo DVD players, no difference in pq, and I did not have any use for their features. My display did not benefit from them.

I know that I'm very picky about about these things, but I should have done my research first. I'll be getting a new tv in the next a couple of weeks and I will be asking a lot of questions in the tv threads before the purchase of my new tv.

I actually like the quiet PS3's more than the standalone blu-ray players. I even know a few people that are going back to PS3 from their standalone players.

This blu-ray format is still a mess, but at the same time is enjoyable. If the BDA does not fix the mess they made, the blu-ray format will die, then we have to go back to dvd or use HDMOD services. Toshiba had it right with HD-DVD, but it had bad marketing.
post #138 of 396
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This blu-ray format is still a mess, but at the same time is enjoyable. If the BDA does not fix the mess they made, the blu-ray format will die, then we have to go back to dvd or use HDMOD services. Toshiba had it right with HD-DVD, but it had bad marketing.


I appreciate you sharing your experience.

I too was an early HD DVD supporter. I don't think Tosh ever really had it "right" though. Maybe by now it might be different, who knows. The PS3 at this point is by far a more mature platform for BD than anything Tosh ever had for HD DVD.
post #139 of 396
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Originally Posted by Kage View Post

I really don't like it people here check out what equipment I had in the past. To answer your question about Denon, I heard stories that their products have quality control issues.

Now regarding about the Panasonic Blu-ray players. The BD10 and BD30 blu-ray, I actually kept them and sold them on ebay serveral months ago. The 35 and 55 have very noisy drives and have average build quality.

Regarding the Samsungs blu-ray players, the 1200 refused to play blu-rays and I returned it back to the store. The P2550 had a loud buzzing fan and noisy bd drive and I returned it. Samsung is not well liked for the reputation on blu-ray players, but they are well liked for their LCD tvs.

For the Toshiba HD-DVD players, I really liked them, I sold them on ebay a few months before Toshiba admitted defeat. The XD-E500, I did not like how it enchanced the pq, so I returned it.

The Pioneer BDP-51FD, I returned it because it had a lot of bugs and my display did not benefit from it. Some of members here warned me not to get it, because of my 37" 768P LCD tv. They were right.

The Sony blu-ray players, I did not like the slow loading time on the S300 and it kept on freezing on me. I had yellow push with the S350. The S550s had problems with loading Netflicks rentals. The PS3 60GB and 40GB were very good, but I sold them because I needed the extra cash at the time.

The Xbox 360 Elite I had for about 6 months and it had the famous Red Rings of Death, I sold it about a month after it was serviced by Microsoft.

The Oppo DVD players, no difference in pq, and I did not have any use for their features. My display did not benefit from them.

I know that I'm very picky about about these things, but I should have done my research first. I'll be getting a new tv in the next a couple of weeks and I will be asking a lot of questions in the tv threads before the purchase of my new tv.

I actually like the quiet PS3's more than the standalone blu-ray players. I even know a few people that are going back to PS3 from their standalone players.

This blu-ray format is still a mess, but at the same time is enjoyable. If the BDA does not fix the mess they made, the blu-ray format will die, then we have to go back to dvd or use HDMOD services. Toshiba had it right with HD-DVD, but it had bad marketing.

I have the Maganavox bd player'It has played every BD disk from netflix'never had one problem'Perfect.Plus the BD I buy have worked perfectly.I can't believe all your problem.My mag BD is 6 months old.Never one problem.I have 2 HDDVD' PLAYERS'they have had many problems.
post #140 of 396
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Originally Posted by Kage View Post

14 blu-ray movies, 10 of them came from Netflix. Out of the 10 Netflix rentals, 6 refused to load on the S550. Maybe the blu-ray movie rentals from Netflix actually ruin blu-ray players or perhaps that the S550 I had came with a bad drive . Last week I purchased the Panasonic DMP-BD35 but I might return it because it has a noisy drive when it plays blu-ray movies. Today I repurchased the S550 at Circuit City, because I had a $35 off coupon towards the purchase. I know that I can get it cheaper at amazon.com but I prefer to buy locally and lately all my packages that get delivered by UPS or Fedex arrive to my home around 8:00 pm because the city is widening the street and making a new street in the area I live in.

Thanks again...

So far I've played four BD films on my S550 and two DVD's - all with no problems and items I purchased locally, as I did with the player itself. I will have to give it a stress test this weekend as much as I can with both DVD's and BD's, but I don't think I will have the same issues you seem to be experiencing.

Good luck!
post #141 of 396
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Originally Posted by Kage View Post

Today I repurchased the S550 at Circuit City, because I had a $35 off coupon towards the purchase. I know that I can get it cheaper at amazon.com but I prefer to buy locally and lately all my packages that get delivered by UPS or Fedex arrive to my home around 8:00 pm because the city is widening the street and making a new street in the area I live in.

I don't think I've ever seen anyone go back & forth between two players like you have. One day you love the Sony, the next day it's the Panasonic with it's 'better PQ' and now you're back to the Sony!
post #142 of 396
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Originally Posted by Kage View Post

My new S550 seems a little better in reading blu-ray movies, but now its freezing up with my Netflix rentals and store bought movies. I guess the new blu-ray players this year have more problems in loading blu-ray movies. I just ordered a new PS3 from amazon.com for around $316 and people say that it is the most reliable blu-ray player that is out, people also say that there is little difference in pq among blu-ray players, and I'm a gamer also.

Oh man!!!
post #143 of 396
I'm in the market for a Blu-Ray player with analog audio outs. For me, at least, that means one of these two players, or the new Oppo--whenever it comes out.

Just finished reading thru this thread, and I was very surprised to see almost no discussion of analog audio performance of the two players, particularly since this is the key feature that separates these players from their less expensive siblings.

So I'd be very interested in any info/opinions on analog audio performance of these two players. Anyone have any info about the audio DAC's used in them?
post #144 of 396
What are you guys ranting about? The Sony is simply a better player of the 2.

Thats my personal opinion and I am entitled to it, so don't get mad.

Since I had this player I have played dozens of BD's without a glitch.
I was able to play DVDs that I made years ago that just refused to play on some of my other players. This 550 played them all and did a good upconverting job at it, too.
Musical cds were as good as played on my Denon Cd player.
I am using Analog Multichannel 7.1 ... the sound is amazing.
The built quality seems better than the Panasonic for sure.
Thats my 2cents.
regards,

chapper
post #145 of 396
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Originally Posted by Chapper View Post

Since I had this player I have played dozens of BD's without a glitch. I was able to play DVDs that I made years ago that just refused to play on some of my other players. This 550 played them all and did a good upconverting job at it, too. Musical cds were as good as played on my Denon Cd player. I am using Analog Multichannel 7.1 ... the sound is amazing.
The built quality seems better than the Panasonic for sure. chapper

Chapper I understand from Sony that when using Analog Multichannel you are down converting the DD tru HD and DTS MA to DD and DTS!!

Makes no sense also you have to press close for the tray to close what is that all about?
post #146 of 396
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

Chapper I understand from Sony that when using Analog Multichannel you are down converting the DD tru HD and DTS MA to DD and DTS!!

Makes no sense also you have to press close for the tray to close what is that all about?

wse: The people at sony are numheads. They told me a bunch of crap prior to my purchase. Stuff

that they knew 0 about. Anyway. This info is totally incorrect. You should go to the Sony S550

owners thread instead of this one and then you'll get the answers you seek, just don't take my

word. I also did a review on this player in one of my postings

Here is it.




Sony S550

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Well, I picked this up from sonystyle store... they are just damn a..es in that store.
Anyway, got it hooked to my Sony DA7es as 7.1 analog multichannel.
Boosted the bass level in the Amp to the default +10db.
Configured the 550 as it should for multichannel out and hdmi -video.
I also set the subwoofer level to 0db and played with the settings of the other speakers until I was satisfied.... that is similarly to what my receiver had been setup. Used the test tone, however, a true test is done by outputting various sound sources and adjusting until a satisfactory level is achieved. This is because sound is a personal thing and what might be pleasing for one is not for another.

To continue: I have also connected my coaxial and component outs to my receiver/tv etc.

Testing:
Using Rambo dts ma 7.1 :
Video: excellent
Audio: Very good, but could be more beefy. I had to up the level of my sub to 3-5db in order to get some good pounding bass as I was accustomed to with my regular Dts es sd tracks etc.

Rush Hour 3 dts ma 7.1
Video excellent
Audio: This was completely different from rambo, I had to reduce my sub level in the receiver to its default 0db. The 7.1 track was much better with more bass and movement than the Rambo. ( and to think I got rambo just to use as a reference disc...what a disappointment)

Spiderman 3 Dolby true hd 5.1

The video was also excellent and so was the sound like rush hour 3.

My thoughts on this 7.1 Multichannel hookup: This 550 is a damn good player that decodes all the new sound formats without a hitch. Some blue rays discs are not as good as others and you will definitely find some differences in the sound dynamics and so forth as you move from movie to movie.
I have tried several and found that you have to fine tune at times to suit your listening preferences.

Standard Dvds:
The upconversion is good/very good, although, I did have a good sony dvd player prior to this and my system is professionally calibrated. However, the disks seemed a little sharper and the picture a little more defined...
Audio on these disks, if outputting through multichannel
for Dts es 6.1... will be outputted as dts 3x2.1
for all the discs I tried including dolby digital EX DTS ES 5.1/6.1, they all played through the multichannel, but... I also did this:

for Std DVD's

I changed to coaxial in the player setup and let my Sony DA 7ES receiver handle the decoding.... guess what. It was much better. The sound was what I was accustomed to and the decoding was flawless with the EX/ES tracks playing through to the back surround as before.

I also tried outputting the Blue ray movie through the coaxial and let my DA7ES do the decoding as normal dolby/dts... the sound here again was fantastic. It was even better than standard dvds.
I do have a very good setup with my Subwoofer and 7.1 speakers. They make almost anything sound good.

I did notice that during the playback of Rush hour. The 550 indicated that the sound output was dts 5/2.1 I guess something to do with the flag of this disc.

Audio CDs: sounded as good or better than my previous dvd player. Anyway, I have a Denon CD player that I will never give up on.

***NOTE:
This player will not and do not play MP3's. It recognises the folders as a photo file and will indicate that no photos are present.

Found Irritating:
The Remote control center navigation control buttons are too close to the return and home buttons. Several times I end up hitting to home button instead of the down arrow button... and this is real....???

Bookmarks work on some discs and not on others... never on std Dvds

Another piece of info that some may want:
If you have a TV with a DVI -D input that allows hdcp protection pass through, You can get a hdmi to DVI cable and it will give you full resolution 1080p (if your TV can support it).

In conclusion, if you are thinking of using your Receiver that is damn good and has multichannel inputs, but no HDMI/codecs for DTS MA etc, just get something like the 550 and you may just be able to continue enjoying your current HT system without putting out $$$ unnecessarily.
Should anyone need anymore input on my setup/response, I'll be glad to assist.

I purchased this unit from the Sonystyle retail store with the Sony/chase card and anticipate the 150 credit. I did pay 29.99 for an extended 2 year plan. With taxes and my anticipated credit I will be paying a total of approx $307.00 for this unit.

Thanks again and happy HT-ing to you all.
Chapper
post #147 of 396
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Originally Posted by bhollis View Post

I'm in the market for a Blu-Ray player with analog audio outs. For me, at least, that means one of these two players, or the new Oppo--whenever it comes out.

Just finished reading thru this thread, and I was very surprised to see almost no discussion of analog audio performance of the two players, particularly since this is the key feature that separates these players from their less expensive siblings.

So I'd be very interested in any info/opinions on analog audio performance of these two players. Anyone have any info about the audio DAC's used in them?

I've played three DVD's and three blu-rays and the analog sound (I'm running through an Outlaw 950) is just amazing, especially the HD content. I was totally stunned at the depth and richness of the sound. I give it a big thumbs up.
ed
post #148 of 396
I keep leaning towards the panny 55 for my system, but standard DVD playback is pretty important to me, hoping this isn't to far OT, but has someone actually compared the standard DVD playback to a Oppo 981.

I might buy the Oppo and wait and see what happens with the BD players.

Al
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Originally Posted by subavision212 View Post

I've played three DVD's and three blu-rays and the analog sound (I'm running through an Outlaw 950) is just amazing, especially the HD content. I was totally stunned at the depth and richness of the sound. I give it a big thumbs up.
ed

Great. So which player do you have?
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Originally Posted by AEW View Post

I keep leaning towards the panny 55 for my system, but standard DVD playback is pretty important to me, hoping this isn't to far OT, but has someone actually compared the standard DVD playback to a Oppo 981.

I might buy the Oppo and wait and see what happens with the BD players.

Al

You might want to wait for the new Oppo Blu-Ray player. May give you the best of both worlds.
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