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Originally Posted by JimKW View Post

Wow! Talk about getting off topic, but I will add my two cents for what it's worth. I pretty much don't like Dylan because I don't understand what he is trying to say. My nephew, who is just six years younger than me, thinks he's the greatest and can understand why I don't.

When I was in College I took a class in literature and had to read books like Madam Bovary, Candide and Metamorphisis. I would come to class and these people would be talking about how they got all these meanings and how they got this and that from the book. I could tell what the story was and it was obvious that I read the book just like they did, but other than Candide none of them sent a message to me.

I asked the professor one day why don't I get it like others in the class do. He looked at me and said "Are you really good with numbers?" I said yes. He just said "Then don't worry about it, you will never get it". And to this day I don't get it, but I still like listening to music even though I rarely understand the message if, in fact, there is one.

Ha ha. Your post made me laugh because I recognize myself in it. I suffer the same problem and I am very mathematically inclined (I even earned a BS in math). I do not naturally "get" it when it comes to poetry or the story behind lyrics, or the message behind the literal meaning of much literature. With music lyrics, I often have to listen over and over and see the lyrics before it clicks with me.

That said, I care very much about and can be overwhelmed by great lyrics once I get them. For instance, I cannot imagine listening to a lot of Pink Floyd without being blown away by the imagery and meaning of the lyrics in many of their songs, regardless of which band member wrote them (through I could do without much of Roger's later political stuff). I love James Taylor's music as much for its beautiful lyrical content as for the music itself. He is a terrific storyteller, even when he is covering someone else's songs. Others whose lyrics I look forward to hearing that readily come to mind are of course Dylan (mostly through other people covering his songs), Neil Peart of Rush, Joe Jackson, Ben Folds, REM (bizarre and unintelligible as many of their lyrics are), The Flaming Lips, Built to Spill, and who knows how many others. I like some merely for the imagery they inspire, some for the storytelling, and some for the profound bits of wisdom they impart (see, e.g., "Time" by PF).
post #212 of 316
My favorite guitarists

Jerry Garcia
Tommy Emmanuel
SRV

So many great guitarists though. Oh, as far as "no great guitar players in the last 20 years"......Trey Anastasio....mind blowing.
post #213 of 316
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Originally Posted by greenhouseman View Post

This should interest you: EXPERIENCE HENDRIX---2008 Tribute Tour

Featuring; Mitch Mitchell & Billy Cox, BUDDY GUY, Jonny Lang, Kenny Wayne Shepherd, Eric Johnson, David Hidalgo & Cesar Rosas(Los Lobos), Hubert Sumlin (Howlin Wolf guitarist), Chris Layton (Double Trouble), Doyle Bramhall II, Eric Gales, Mato Nanji

For me its Nov 1st at the Palms--Las Vegas

WHOA -- the above-named musicians are pretty much the ones I'd list in answer to the question posed in the first post here (greatest guitarists). That will be one awesome show!

The only ones missing from that list that I'd add if I could -- Eric Clapton, Joe Satriani, and naturally SRV himself. And Hendrix, of course. Oh, and believe it or not, Yngwie Malmsteen. Guess I'm dating myself with that one! LOL

DGK
post #214 of 316
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Originally Posted by paulwozniak View Post

Listen to the bass line he plays on "Hey,Bulldog"! If I remember right the song was on the Yellow Submarine soundtrack. Incredible.

Hey Bulldog is probably the greatest unknown Beatles song (well, relatively unknown compared to most Beatle stuff). Written by Lennon, with some bits thrown in by McCartney, it never appeared in the Yellow Submarine movie, only on the soundtrack album, which is the by far the least known Beatles album.
post #215 of 316
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Originally Posted by Down View Post

Mentioned a couple posts ago, but I'll drop Frank Zappa again.

Other than his actual guitar playing, he led some of the most musically "tight" bands I've ever heard in my life.

I saw Zappa play live once. I was surprised at what a good guitarist he was.
post #216 of 316
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Originally Posted by cjsm250 View Post

Hey Bulldog is probably the greatest unknown Beatles song (well, relatively unknown compared to most Beatle stuff). Written by Lennon, with some bits thrown in by McCartney, it never appeared in the Yellow Submarine movie, only on the soundtrack album, which is the by far the least known Beatles album.

I was starting to think that I was the only person that ever heard that song. One of my favorites.
post #217 of 316
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Originally Posted by Toe View Post

My favorite guitarists

Jerry Garcia
Tommy Emmanuel
SRV

So many great guitarists though. Oh, as far as "no great guitar players in the last 20 years"......Trey Anastasio....mind blowing.

WOW, Toe! You and I have even more in common then we thought

I saw almost 70 Dead shows, and over 300 Phish shows...
post #218 of 316
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Originally Posted by cjsm250 View Post

I saw Zappa play live once. I was surprised at what a good guitarist he was.

His son is no slouch either.
post #219 of 316
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Originally Posted by cjsm250 View Post

Hey Bulldog is probably the greatest unknown Beatles song (well, relatively unknown compared to most Beatle stuff). Written by Lennon, with some bits thrown in by McCartney, it never appeared in the Yellow Submarine movie, only on the soundtrack album, which is the by far the least known Beatles album.

There's a new sequence for "Hey Bulldog" in the restored version of Yellow Submarine on DVD. I saw a brief clip of it once, and it looked pretty interesting.
post #220 of 316
I saw Ween cover "Hey Bulldog" once and it was awesome!

I agree though, McCartney is a criminally underrated as a bassist.
post #221 of 316
Similar to the way that Phil Collins was always severely underrated as a percussionist, because of his later fluff.

(Would a band like Brand X even want him around if he couldn't keep up?)
post #222 of 316
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Originally Posted by Rammitinski View Post

Similar to the way that Phil Collins was always severely underrated as a percussionist, because of his later fluff.

(Would a band like Brand X even want him around if he couldn't keep up?)

Absolutely, any Phil Collins hater should do themselves a favor and listen to this:



Brand X- Unorthodox Behaviour
post #223 of 316
In terms of technical ability, check out Guthrie Govan. Simply amazing. Also, another vote for Tommy Emmanuel here!
post #224 of 316
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Originally Posted by Hicks View Post

Absolutely, any Phil Collins hater should do themselves a favor and listen to this:

...And stay away from those painful Tarzan or Two Brothers soundtracks!
post #225 of 316
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Originally Posted by Rammitinski View Post

Maybe you can answer this for me -

Just what is it that makes Jeff Beck such a "legendary, great" guitarist? I mean, to me he's always been a decent guitarist, but I could never understand the Godlike status bestowed on him by so many. There are hundreds of other well-known guitarists I've heard that I would consider "better" in every way. To me, his claim to fame has more to do with who he surrounds himself with, his wise choice of material, and his ego more than anything else.

I just want to hear a guitarist's opinion.

How about a non-guitarist, but tremendous admirer of great guitarist's opinion? I need only listen to the screaming Wah of I Ain't Superstitious to include JB in any discussion like this.

CD
post #226 of 316
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It's also interesting that Prince has only been mentioned once.

I wouldn't put him at the top of my list, but I do think he's an underrated guitarist. He can definitely tear it up, especially live.

I just came across this thread and I was going to see if anyone mentioned Prince before I threw him into the mix (I didn't even see the one previous post you mentioned). Prince is an amazing guitarist, definitely belongs in the Top 10 of modern players. He's underrated, and understandably so, because the stuff the average listener hears on the radio, or even deeper into some of the commercially released CDs, doesn't necessarily grab your attention. But Prince fans know the real testament are the Boots of the live shows, and especially blazing aftershows that he does (at least back in the day). Whenever I have the chance to argue with guitarists and other enthusiasts like myself, I need do no more than lend them a copy of Small Club to have them shaking their heads in disbelief; they would never have imagined Prince plays like that.

Other players I'm real fans of, other than the ones that always get thrown in the mix, and have been mentioned ad nuaseam here...Steve Howe, who has gotten a few mentions, and Adrian Belew (yes, I like Prog...lol), who hasn't yet.

CD
post #227 of 316
Sorry for 3 posts in a row...I know the thread got distracted by the spinning babe (forget which direction she's spinning...is it just my brain that sees her nipples poking out...lol)...but I just discovered the thread. Did I see anyone mention Jack White? I'm not saying he's great, but I do dig his playing; when he tore it up on Conan for those 4 nights straight...that was some dirty $hit.

CD
post #228 of 316
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Originally Posted by CDLehner View Post

Sorry for 3 posts in a row...I know the thread got distracted by the spinning babe (forget which direction she's spinning...is it just my brain that sees her nipples poking out...lol)...but I just discovered the thread. Did I see anyone mention Jack White? I'm not saying he's great, but I do dig his playing; when he tore it up on Conan for those 4 nights straight...that was some dirty $hit.

CD

Yeah, sorry about that, my bad. We seem to be back on track now.

Jack White is pretty good, he gets a hell of a lot of sound from his rig. And I agree that Prince is highly underrated as a guitarist. The guy is a musical genius, I think I remember reading somewhere that he is proficient at 23 different instruments or something... Great talent, there.
post #229 of 316
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Originally Posted by funkmonkey View Post

Yeah, sorry about that, my bad. We seem to be back on track now.

Jack White is pretty good, he gets a hell of a lot of sound from his rig. And I agree that Prince is highly underrated as a guitarist. The guy is a musical genius, I think I remember reading somewhere that he is proficient at 23 different instruments or something... Great talent, there.

Well...I'm Prince's biggest fan, and agree he's a genius...but that 23 instrument thing is a bit of marketing ploy. As my best friend used to point out "how many instruments are there"? Yes, he plays Guitar fabulously, is fonky as hell on Bass, is a decent, if kitschy Piano player, and can keep a beat on Drums. Very impressive, but that's 4; I know for a fact he doesn't play Brass, which is why he usually has good horn players in his bands, and you shouldn't be able to count Piano, Electric Piano, Synthesizer, Organ, etc., as different instruments, so where do they come up with 23? Triangle? Wood Block? Cabasa?

CD
post #230 of 316
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Originally Posted by CDLehner View Post

How about a non-guitarist, but tremendous admirer of great guitarist's opinion? I need only listen to the screaming Wah of I Ain't Superstitious to include JB in any discussion like this.

CD

Maybe what makes JB a "God" has to do with the timeline of his work. I certainly was around when he hit the scene, so for me, he did things I hadn't heard before. Same for Clapton, Page, and Hendrix. If I were younger, (I'm 50), I suppose they would sound dated, but to me they were the springwell for all that followed.

And yes, The screaming Wah of "I Ain't Superstitious" is reason enough to include him! (And for that matter all the rest of his guitar work on that absolutely killer album "Truth".)
post #231 of 316
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Originally Posted by paulwozniak View Post

Maybe what makes JB a "God" has to do with the timeline of his work. I certainly was around when he hit the scene, so for me, he did things I hadn't heard before. Same for Clapton, Page, and Hendrix. If I were younger, (I'm 50), I suppose they would sound dated, but to me they were the springwell for all that followed.

And yes, The screaming Wah of "I Ain't Superstitious" is reason enough to include him! (And for that matter all the rest of his guitar work on that absolutely killer album "Truth".)

JB sounded pretty up to date to me at the Crossroads Guitar Festival in Chicago. Amazing "Day in the Life" and his bass player was very "fine"!

A lot of the effects he does are just done with his technique and ability.
post #232 of 316
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Originally Posted by Randybes View Post

.....and his bass player was very "fine"!

OK; don't know his music very well, but happened to catch him on PBS earlier this year. That little girl is pretty mean on the low end.
post #233 of 316
His bassist in some of those vidoes, and I assume the one you are talking about, is Tal Wilkenfeld. She's quite good and was so even at the time when she was really young.

http://www.talwilkenfeld.com/Tal.html
post #234 of 316
Proving you only need 3 strings to be a guitar hero:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNoPNC3ebYQ
post #235 of 316
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WOW, Toe! You and I have even more in common then we thought

I saw almost 70 Dead shows, and over 300 Phish shows...


over 300 Phish shows! Wow! I have seen Phish "only" about 20 times, but man what a phenominal live band. Are you going to the upcoming comeback shows?

Loved the Dead when Jerry was around, but did not get on the bus so to speak until 90 and I ended up making it to 33 shows before Jerry passed. Jerry is my favorite musician though and I am always amazed that he can still impress me even after all these years when I hear a show I have not heard before (and even shows I have listened to a 1000 times) I swear that guitar is plugged right into his soul
post #236 of 316
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Originally Posted by Dean Roddey View Post

His bassist in some of those vidoes, and I assume the one you are talking about, is Tal Wilkenfeld. She's quite good and was so even at the time when she was really young.

http://www.talwilkenfeld.com/Tal.html

Why is the 'Gallery' link broken? Did you horndogs crash her Server?

CD
post #237 of 316
I go a different way from the majority around here in much preferring acoustic guitars usually. To me the great beauty of guitar is expressed best and most highly in the subdued and contemplative intimate qualities of the instrument, and these are more difficult to perfect than are the pyrotechnics displayed in so much R&R, often to excess...not to say I can't and don't enjoy a good rip too. The top of my list -

Paco De Lucia, who invented the Nuevo Flamenco sub-genre and Jesse Cook who perfected it.

Laurindo Almeida

Andrés Segovia, who not nearly as technically adept as his pupal, John Williams (here to contrast) playing the standard Leyenda too, proves to my tastes that proficency does not necessarily trump musicality, as marvelous as Williams is.

John Mayer will eventually be a giant of the guitar if someone will just tell him to "shut and not sing." In fact, he will even if he continues to make a fortune singing to little girls.
post #238 of 316
I would like to add Alex Lifeson (Rush) and Rik Emmett (Triumph) to list.
Both can shred with the best of them, but their acoustic / classical material
sets them apart from most rock "axemen". Very underated I.M.O.
post #239 of 316
^ Lifeson has been mentioned before in this thread, deservedly so. Rush has been one of my favorite bands for 30 years but my wife is from Thailand and had never heard of them. I came home yesterday and she was watching their concert on Palladia, she absolutely loves them now. I dug out some old vinyl albums for her listen to.
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Originally Posted by BuckoNZ View Post

Think once, think twice, think... Eddie Van Halen.

Post 1995... the worst thing this guy did was sober up!

I've seen a good number of groups and individuals in concert. Eddie Van Halen was the only one that made my jaw drop with his musical skills.

I've never seen anyone master an instrument like Eddie. Drunk or sober, he is the definition of a "guitar god".
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