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Originally Posted by mr. wally

just sharing my obsevations which have been corroborated by some other members.

Originally Posted by mr. wally

doesn't explain why dragon tattoo and ghost protocol were below average transfers.

Originally Posted by mr. wally

i'm with netflix now and no issues so don't think its my equipment.

Originally Posted by Steeb

But you see - you weren't "just" sharing your observations, you were concocting (and sharing over multiple threads) ridiculous (and more than a little idiotic) theories like "seems like their {Redbox} buying their brs from the chinese counterfeit market." You also keep repeating nonsense like Redbox is using overly-compressed discs that no other rental or retail chain is using, despite having no evidence.

All of this, while knowing full well that your firmware on your BD player hadn't been updated in 2.5 years...


Where are all of the other posters who rented these titles from Redbox and are dissatisfied with the quality? Why aren't there others up in arms over this if it's really as you say?

The fact that you're the only one reporting that their Redbox rentals of those titles contained "below average transfers" strongly suggests that the problem is on your end (or that you were watching DVD copies of the films.)

Are you claiming that you've compared Netflix copies of the titles in question with the Redbox discs and the issues have disappeared? Including the title that wouldn't play at all? I find that extremely hard to believe, in no small part because your credibility when it comes to properly troubleshooting appears to be severely lacking.

The fact that you didn't even consider that your woefully outdated firmware could be the culprit, even after having multiple copies of the same title all pop up as unreadable, is enough to suggest you should probably ask more questions and jump to far fewer conclusions in the future...

Originally Posted by mr. wally

if your happy with rb, good for yo

Originally Posted by mgkdragn

Try some more. The strawberries taste like strawberries, and the snozzberries taste like snozzberries.

Which makes about as much sense as anything ..

Originally Posted by mgkdragn

Yeah, the BD selection is not the greatest, but until the general populace adopts it as the de facto standard, it is what it is ..

This whole bit from mr. wally about PQ differences and what not just makes no sense to me ..

Originally Posted by Thebarnman

UNLESS...MAYBE there are certain titles on Blu-ray that are now signaling the players to output lower resolution signals over the HD analog outputs????

I doubt it, since I have not heard of them doing that yet. However that could be a possible reason.

Originally Posted by mgkdragn

What earthly reason would there be for that .. ??

Originally Posted by mailiang 

As promised. Lets try this again.


http://www.dailyfinance.com/2013/02/08/coinstar-profit-drops-redbox-earning-stocks/


Any thoughts are welcome.



Ian

Originally Posted by mr. wally 

glad to see the kiosk biz is profitable.

given bb's floundering and nf's disinterest in rentals, vis a vis, streaming,
redbox is pretty much the primary source for my bd rentals.

Originally Posted by mailiang 

So that's why I'm getting all these new BD releases from Netflix. Everybody's going to Redbox and jumping ship!

Redbox ended 2012 with a 45.3% share of the physical disc rental market, up 7.5 points from the fourth quarter of 2011 and nearly double the market share of online and by-mail disc providers.

Blu-ray accounted for 12.5% of Redbox revenue for the fourth quarter (ended Dec. 31) of 2012, nearly double the Blu-ray revenue from Q4 2011. For both Disney’s The Avengers and Sony’s The Amazing Spider-Man, more than 20% of kiosk rentals were Blu-ray, the company reported. Warner’s Dark Shadows and Disney’s Brave saw Blu-ray rentals at more than 18%.

“We are uniquely positioned to take advantage of the increased acceptance of Blu-ray given our value price point and marketing assets, which we plan to further leverage to help consumers discover and explore the format,” Davis said.

Originally Posted by mailiang 

As promised. Lets try this again.


http://www.dailyfinance.com/2013/02/08/coinstar-profit-drops-redbox-earning-stocks/


Any thoughts are welcome.



Ian

Originally Posted by Thebarnman 

It seems to me they took a hit only because of the other things they invested in.

Coinstar made the announcements while reporting fourth-quarter and full-year 2012 results. The company posted a profit of $22.9 million for the fourth quarter of 2012 a drop of more than 27% from the same quarter in 2011 ($31.5 million).

The drop came despite an 8.4% jump in revenue year-over-year ($564 million vs. $520 million). Coinstar said the drop in profit was due to operating results from kiosks acquired as part of its $100 million acquisition of NCR Corp.’s entertainment division, which included 10,000 kiosks previously operating under the Blockbuster Express brand.

In the fourth quarter Coinstar replaced 500 NCR kiosks with Redbox kiosks, and removed an additional 800 NCR kiosks outright. Since the acquisition, Coinstar has replaced 2,700 NCR kiosks and removed 1,600 others. Coinstar expects to complete the replacement and removal of NCR kiosks by May.

Coinstar also announced that many Redbox kiosks will increase disc capacity by more than 80 discs in 2013. New kiosks in the second half of 2012 were manufactured with the increased capacity, and “a significant percentage” of existing kiosks will be upgraded in 2013.

Redbox revenue for the fourth quarter grew 9.6% to $488.3 million, and during the fourth quarter, Redbox same-kiosk rentals were up approximately 6% year-over-year. There were a total of 188 million rentals during the quarter, compared with 174.8 million rentals during the fourth quarter of 2011. Video games accounted for 3% of rentals and nearly 7% of revenue for the quarter.

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland 

Could very well be. Netflix only has themselves to blame!


Redbox Market Share Hits 45%; Kiosks to Hold More Discs

Coinstar made the announcements while reporting fourth-quarter and full-year 2012 results. The company posted a profit of $22.9 million for the fourth quarter of 2012 a drop of more than 27% from the same quarter in 2011 ($31.5 million).

The drop came despite an 8.4% jump in revenue year-over-year ($564 million vs. $520 million). Coinstar said the drop in profit was due to operating results from kiosks acquired as part of its $100 million acquisition of NCR Corp.’s entertainment division, which included 10,000 kiosks previously operating under the Blockbuster Express brand.

In the fourth quarter Coinstar replaced 500 NCR kiosks with Redbox kiosks, and removed an additional 800 NCR kiosks outright. Since the acquisition, Coinstar has replaced 2,700 NCR kiosks and removed 1,600 others. Coinstar expects to complete the replacement and removal of NCR kiosks by May.

Coinstar also announced that many Redbox kiosks will increase disc capacity by more than 80 discs in 2013. New kiosks in the second half of 2012 were manufactured with the increased capacity, and “a significant percentage” of existing kiosks will be upgraded in 2013.

Redbox revenue for the fourth quarter grew 9.6% to $488.3 million, and during the fourth quarter, Redbox same-kiosk rentals were up approximately 6% year-over-year. There were a total of 188 million rentals during the quarter, compared with 174.8 million rentals during the fourth quarter of 2011. Video games accounted for 3% of rentals and nearly 7% of revenue for the quarter.

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland 

Could very well be. Netflix only has themselves to blame!

Originally Posted by rezzy 

Same for Blockbuster.

Originally Posted by mailiang 

Netflix isn't close to having the issues that BB has. If you keep on top of your Que and do returns by Monday, in most cases you're good to go when it comes to getting a new release. With BB it's turned into a crap shoot these days.


Ian

Originally Posted by mailiang 


The biggest problem I have with Red Box, at least in my area, is that there aren't enough titles in BD. At this point I have no issues getting rentals from Netflix, and it's convenient. So for now, at least for me, sticking with their service is a fete de compli.




Ian

Originally Posted by mr. wally 

to each their own. i like being able to pick up a br and watch it the same day. impulse renting if you want to call it that.

with nf i have to wait 2-3 days to get a title. not unreasonable, but it doesn't fit my impulsive nature.

also i only rent 4-5 br a month so a nf plan is really unnecessary for me.

only thing i do miss is not getting old titles.

Originally Posted by mr. wally 

Originally Posted by mr. wally 

br and pc content is what i consider 1080p.

don't want to go down the road where we argue whether streaming at 1080p is equal to bd as i know opinions vary on that topic.

if your satisfied with you nf streaming quality, then good for you.

Originally Posted by mailiang 

If you read my BD posts you will find that I'm a BIG advocate of BD, so you won't get that argument from me. However, for 8 bucks a month Netflix streaming quality is hard to beat. So for the latest releases I turn to Blu-Ray, but for older titles and Indies, I usually go to satellite or streaming.


Ian

Originally Posted by mr. wally 

yeah there was that discussion about nf streaming and (i think) vudu being equal or nearly equal to bd.

i've seen my wife's nf 1080p streaming, and while it is very high quality for a stream, it didn't look like br quality to me.