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4805 lamp fan failure

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 
Hello everyone,

I've got an InFocus 4805 here that I got on refurb, sale, etc ... obviously way out of warranty at this point. It developed a lot of fan noise and some dust blobs, so I tried the blob guide on here. That did clear up some of the problem, but in the process I think I jarred loose the last bits of holding glue on the light tunnel, and it also developed the "dark border" problem. I was about ready to throw in the towel and live with the border because I'm guessing it's not worth trying to get someone to repair it, but then the lamp fan stopped spinning up too. I think it's been making noises for a while.

I'm not sure what went wrong here, I guess the projector gods hate me

Anyway, I was able to get it apart again and replace the lamp fan with a PC fan. It worked fine, but as many have noted on other forums when asking about replacing the fan for noise, the projector shut down after a few minutes. Probably overheated the lamp, from not enough airflow.

By copious amounts of searching the web I was able to find a place to buy some replacement parts. So I ordered a new fan ($20 .. sheesh InFocus!) and a new light tunnel. I figured I might as well replace that too while I was in there again.

Tonight I took the projector apart and replaced both the fan and the light tunnel. The picture quality is now sterling (yay!!) but the fan is doing exactly the same thing. I have this dread that the real problem is the controller board and not the fan... ;_; That's definitely not worth replacing at this point, not with sub-$1k projectors with reasonable specs out there (I'm no AV maven, we just use it to watch DVDs in the living room).

So I guess I was wondering if anyone had seen this exact problem before and managed to fix it. I've only seen a couple of references to it on the web and none of them had any conclusions about how to take care of it.

Basically the projector has, as I mentioned, a brand new lamp fan installed. The lamp itself has maybe 1500 hours on it. When I turn the projector on, if the lamp spins up at all (or tries) it just kind of makes this "errr .. errr .. errr" noise over and over, like it's trying to spin up but can't. If you start the projector with the casing off, you can see it budge whenever it makes the noise, for a second. If you flick the fan with your finger, it will spin feebly for a few seconds and then give up again.

We have a very dusty house, so I figured it was just that the old fan got too gunked up .. but I really don't think that's the problem now since this is brand new one

If it really is the controller board, I saw one suggestion about rerouting the fan's power to a 12v source in the projector .. I suppose that would work but it's a move of desperation.

Anyone have any ideas? I like this projector and would just as soon fix it rather than having to buy a new one.

Thanks!
post #2 of 13
No advice on the fan problem, but I have to ask -

Where did you buy a light tunnel (by itself)?
post #3 of 13
I read where someone diagnosed the problem as a bad fan power supply.
They used a Nokia phone charger as a power supply and it solved their problem.
I agree it may be the controller board, and you may just need a power supply tied into the switch.

PLEASE do share where you got a light tunnel. I need one.
post #4 of 13
Hi Kayateia....

Here is a fellow SP4805 owner having similar situation as you: fan getting noisier and the light tunnel problem just reared its ugly face. Also thinking about an upgrade but would rather fix it if it is doable. Would you care to share the info of the place where you obtained the fan and the light tunnel. Once able to get to the point you are now we might be capable of finding a solution together! (or share the misery....)
post #5 of 13
Think kayateia will ever come back?
post #6 of 13
I have the exact same problem with my 4805.

I have diagnosed the fan controller as the problem. I have re-connected the main fan to an external 12V supply and the projector works fine in this configuration however temporary. I also tried connecting the fan to the other fan's power supply and that also worked but does not run the fan at full voltage which will probably result in reduced airflow resulting in overheating over time.

I have tried to submit a support file to InFocus but their support site has an issue with my Edmonton address/postal code stating that my postal code does not match the city/province and will not allow me to complete my submission. I guess I will have to phone in my support issue during working hours. How frustrating!

I don't have much hope for a solution from InFocus based on what I have read about their response to other issues.

If anyone has a permanent fix for this problem, I would be very grateful. I will keep working on this and if I come up with something I will share my fix.
post #7 of 13
The only permanent fix is to replace the main board. And those are very expensive.
post #8 of 13
Hello,

Has anyone tried to resolder the connections on the main board?

With all that heat it may just be a simple fix.

Regards,

Tom
post #9 of 13
Are you suggesting that the projector gets hot enough to melt solder connections? Not likely. AT those temperatures, the plastics would soften and deform.

Now, if anyone wants to try, that's up to them. But I seriously doubt that most of the people out there are up to the challenges of repairing the tiny solder points on a board that uses SMD devices.


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Originally Posted by Tamas View Post

Hello,

Has anyone tried to resolder the connections on the main board?

With all that heat it may just be a simple fix.

Regards,

Tom
post #10 of 13
Thread Starter 
Yikes!! I didn't realize the forum stops sending you notification emails after the first one Sorry, didn't mean to abandon this thread.

I ended up doing what several posters suggested, tie the lamp fan's power in with the smaller fan. It does indeed run at a lower speed than it used to (I think) and it's really strange to hear it powering the fans up and down in unison now .. but it works. We've had several multi-hour sessions with it and no meltdowns, lamp failures, or overheating shutdowns. The case feels a little warmer on the outside when I shut it down, but that is totally subjective ... it had been over a month since it died on me.

Either way, at least I got a few more months out of it, maybe with some luck a few more years ... time enough to move "replacement projector buying" into a better financial situation

As far as buying new components -- yes, I did find a place that would sell you basically every major component of the projector. And yes, mainboards are so outrageously priced that you might as well forget about it. ($600+) The other "board" components are not quite that bad, but they are pretty high ($100+). That's why I opted to just splice the power instead of trying to replace the components properly. I'm almost afraid to post the name of the place because I don't know if they're supposed to be doing small resales to private individuals, and I don't want them to get in trouble. But if you ask nicely, they will let you submit an order and pay for it with a credit card.

Oh hey, it won't even let me post the URL since I'm too new ... Anyway, google for Projector Doctor. I actually found the link here in this forum on another post, where someone said they ordered through their corporate account at work.

Good luck!

Edit: I should say, in regards to the parts, too, it helps a lot if you have the InFocus part number ready. Here are a few from their list, prices obviously subject to change (this is just what they sent me):

- 526-0193-00 FAN,60, MMEZL12NM002, 2406KL-04W-B50-T13 $19.00
- 526-0192-00 FAN,80, MMEZL12NH003, D08G-12TS401(MA) $19.00
- 525-0146-00 S/A, COLOR WHEEL KIT, SP-4805 SERVICE $100.00
- 306-0095-01 TUNNEL, SP,TSUNAMI-PLUS HOME $29.00

I suspect the prices are just InFocus' cost plus a bit. You also have to pay for shipping, and it takes about 2-3 weeks, because they have to order the parts from InFocus and then ship them back to you.
post #11 of 13
I had abandoned my 4805 for a long time, after an unsuccessful replacement of the melted-down original cheapy fan with a nice bearing model with comparable airflow and noise specs. After that repair and a new bulb, I got a few minutes of self-satisfied success... until the screen ingloriously went dark, which I determined to be the thermal protection rather than my $300+ bulb.

Anyway, I happened to wonder recently if anybody was still talking about the 4805 here, specifically about any similar problems... and I find this thread.

So I grabbed my 4805 and tried the suggestion of tapping the larger fan's power into the smaller fan's power supply, and behold

... the Creature Lives!

Thanks to all the helpful posters on these forums!
post #12 of 13
I too had my bulb explode and realized it was my fan power output took a dump..I wired its own power supply but it seems to run a little too slow.Scared to let it run too long. dont want to bulb to get too hot. I used a Nokia 120v adapter with an output of DC 3.7v,350mA. Is this suitable or should I use something else..Thanks for all the help..
post #13 of 13
hmmm my old x1 did the same thing after not long selling it to a friend....I wonder if he still has it?....
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