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post #631 of 1051
I tried to watch Adventureland last night. The very first menu appears fine, asking you to choose a language. After that the player just sits there. VERY annoying since we had several guests over.

I WAS on the latest FW (June 09). I reloaded the March 09 FW and now the disc plays just fine!!!!!!

Have a second go at it tonight.
post #632 of 1051
The June '09 firmware is definitly an odd fellow. Since updating both of my players, SD DVDs are now having audio dropoffs. Every time the audio goes out, you have to hit "pause," "rewind," then hit "play" again and the audio comes back on. Just fine and dandy. But, this happens at least 4 or 5 times during a movie. Odds times indeed.
post #633 of 1051
the apollo 13 sd dvd has never played. the player just spits it out and says disc error. it plays on the dvd player, so it's not the disc. i've searched through the thread and haven't seen any mention of this title. recently upgraded to the june '09 fw and everything else i've tested so far (HD, BD, and SD) works fine.

any ideas?
post #634 of 1051
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Originally Posted by rms8 View Post

I tried to watch Adventureland last night. The very first menu appears fine, asking you to choose a language. After that the player just sits there.

Same thing for Snow White. Looks like something on the new Disney releases is giving this player a hard time. Fortunately, a fimware update to address this problem seems to be on the works...

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...4#post17159664
post #635 of 1051
So, this issue with Disney DVDs, first reported in June, is still not resolved? I think four months is MORE than long enough to reasonably wait for a fix.

Thank goodness hardly anyone buys Disney discs. Oops! At this moment 3 of the top 10 discs on Amazon's blu-ray bestseller list are Disney titles, including the No. 1 ... Snow White. Same with Best Buy, where Snow White, which doesn't work on the LG (and I've seen exactly ZERO reports of it not working on any other blu-ray player), is also No. 1.
post #636 of 1051
Snow White BD plays fine on my BH200 with ancient (April '08) firmware. Loads to a language screen, then, in typical Disney fashion wants to parade thru a bunch of previews and self-serving junk, but hitting "Menu" gets you to the main menu, and Play works just fine (after wading thru more junk).

I see absolutely no way whatsoever that Disney's BD production team could make a worse muck of this disc's navigation...
post #637 of 1051
The only title I recall not working with the April firmware is Sony's This Christmas.

I may go back to April if I get any issues with discs from the June firmware. BD-Live is nice, but it's definitely not that important.
post #638 of 1051
Snow White plays fine after rolling back to the December '08 firmware.

I did call LG to let them know I was having a problem. Maybe if they get enough calls, we'll get a update sooner.
post #639 of 1051
Show White Diamond Edition BR works just fine with the March '09 firmware. It just takes a while to load from menu to menu. But, please tell me I didn't spend 25 bucks on a 4:3 movie with horrible singing!!! I've had nightmares for the past two nights.
post #640 of 1051
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Originally Posted by escopa View Post

please tell me I didn't spend 25 bucks on a 4:3 movie with horrible singing!!! I've had nightmares for the past two nights.

dont tell me you thought the movie was gonna be any different just cause it came out on blu ray ?
post #641 of 1051
thought id ask this here instead of making a new thread.

i just bought superman 2 the richard donener cut on HD dvd but it only displays 1080P.
the 1st superman movie from 1978 on HD dvd displays 1080/24P.

why is that ?
post #642 of 1051
richard donner cut was made for home video , not for theaters right?
maybe they encoded it in 60hz for dvds. just a wild guess.

when should we expect a new fw update? i want to watch my snow white bd in my bedroom
post #643 of 1051
On the Special Features BD of Watchmen (not the digital copy DVD), by BH200 just spits it out without reading it. Running the latest firmware, seeing the same problems as everyone else with Maximum Movie Mode of Disc 1 (garbled text, but audio is fine).
post #644 of 1051
Quote:
Originally Posted by escopa View Post

Show White Diamond Edition BR works just fine with the March '09 firmware. It just takes a while to load from menu to menu. But, please tell me I didn't spend 25 bucks on a 4:3 movie with horrible singing!!! I've had nightmares for the past two nights.

So, it works w/ March but not with the latest firmware? If the singing bothers you that badly, drop me a PM. Maybe I can take it off your hands.
post #645 of 1051
Another non-working disc:
Drillbit Taylor, UK
Firmware: June 09 (BD Live)
Driver 702
Region: B

I just get a grey bar on the tv and the player doesn't do anything if I press a key (it reacts to power off / eject thou).
post #646 of 1051
Yes Adventureland only will work on March/April FW...locks up on main title screen with June FW.
post #647 of 1051
Looks like the Disney "bug" affects UP as well - Title refuses to play past the language select screen with the June firmware.
Works fine if I roll back to the March firmware - I'll try an update to the June firmware and an reset of the usb storage once I've managed to watch the film
post #648 of 1051
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Originally Posted by tonym001 View Post

Looks like the Disney "bug" affects UP as well - Title refuses to play past the language select screen with the June firmware.
Works fine if I roll back to the March firmware - I'll try an update to the June firmware and an reset of the usb storage once I've managed to watch the film

This is an LG issue, NOT a Disney issue. The same Disney titles play fine on every other Blu-Ray player out there (no widespread reports of trouble or even other reports on AVS Forum for other players) and will even play on the BH200 (reportedly) with older firmware. This is LG's fault for releasing BAD firmware and refusing to fix it after five months!
post #649 of 1051
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Originally Posted by susanandmark View Post

This is an LG issue, NOT a Disney issue. The same Disney titles play fine on every other Blu-Ray player out there (no widespread reports of trouble or even other reports on AVS Forum for other players) and will even play on the BH200 (reportedly) with older firmware. This is LG's fault for releasing BAD firmware and refusing to fix it after five months!

I wouldn't call it bad firmware, the firmware came before the new Disney movies were released. Disney made a change with the Java code that the BH200 is having a problem with. Firmware is coming but there is a delay. I cannot discuss why but the issue is with the maker of a certain IC on the BH200.
post #650 of 1051
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Originally Posted by samsungmaster View Post

I wouldn't call it bad firmware, the firmware came before the new Disney movies were released. Disney made a change with the Java code that the BH200 is having a problem with. Firmware is coming but there is a delay. I cannot discuss why but the issue is with the maker of a certain IC on the BH200.

Thanks for the heads up SamsungMaster! Looking patiently forward to the fix.
post #651 of 1051
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Originally Posted by samsungmaster View Post

I wouldn't call it bad firmware, the firmware came before the new Disney movies were released. Disney made a change with the Java code that the BH200 is having a problem with. Firmware is coming but there is a delay. I cannot discuss why but the issue is with the maker of a certain IC on the BH200.

So why then do these disc's play on older FW's versions?
post #652 of 1051
Lately I have been having problems with my BH200 reading some of the Blu-Ray discs. "Lies and Illusions" and "Duplicity" did not play at all even after trying multiple times. These were brand new discs that I got from Netflix. The strange part is after I watched "G.I. Joe", BH200 recognized "Duplicity" and played without any problems. Anyone having similar experience?
post #653 of 1051
Uhh... Yeah.

I would call it "bad firmware" and LG has known about this issue for awhile now.

The "IC issue problem" cannot "be discussed". The firmware to fix is "on delay".

Sounds like a bunch of excuses and no resolution. I shall repeat, 'Up' and 'Monsters Inc.' are coming out on Tuesday and all BH-200 owners will have to revert to older firmware releases in order to play them (well, one can hope..). Funny eh.. the older firmware plays these discs and the new firmware breaks them.

Nah.. I wouldn't call that "bad firmware" at all sir.


Don't try the cherry-coat the problems and blame it on Disney changing the BD-Java code. That's a technical fact/reality that's been known for quite some time within the LG division. Blu-Ray authoring is constantly changing. It should of been fixed back in July/August at the very latest.

Oh wait.. "we can't talk about that". Oops.. LG can do no wrong.

I'd love to smash this player into a thousand pieces but I was the fool and paid $600 some dollars for it. So, I guess I'm the idiot.

-a.
post #654 of 1051
Quote:
Originally Posted by al0137 View Post

Uhh... Yeah.

I would call it "bad firmware" and LG has known about this issue for awhile now.

The "IC issue problem" cannot "be discussed". The firmware to fix is "on delay".

Sounds like a bunch of excuses and no resolution. I shall repeat, 'Up' and 'Monsters Inc.' are coming out on Tuesday and all BH-200 owners will have to revert to older firmware releases in order to play them (well, one can hope..). Funny eh.. the older firmware plays these discs and the new firmware breaks them.

Nah.. I wouldn't call that "bad firmware" at all sir.


Don't try the cherry-coat the problems and blame it on Disney changing the BD-Java code. That's a technical fact/reality that's been known for quite some time within the LG division. Blu-Ray authoring is constantly changing. It should of been fixed back in July/August at the very latest.

Oh wait.. "we can't talk about that". Oops.. LG can do no wrong.

I'd love to smash this player into a thousand pieces but I was the fool and paid $600 some dollars for it. So, I guess I'm the idiot.

-a.

I don't think you read my post correctly. LG is not responsible for the s/w fix, a third party is. That is where the delay is.
post #655 of 1051
Thread Starter 
Up Blu-ray won't play
post #656 of 1051
Thread Starter 
And now the player won't even go to the main menu (stuck at 'please wait'). UP killed it. Ugh.
post #657 of 1051
Hold the power button for I believe 10 seconds - that will shut it down, and then press eject to power up the unit. At least you will be able to get the disc out.

Of course, you probably already know that, so consider this as being for other people who get this issue.

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Originally Posted by GizmoDVD View Post

And now the player won't even go to the main menu (stuck at 'please wait'). UP killed it. Ugh.
post #658 of 1051
Thread Starter 
Unplugged for an hour, plugged in and it worked fine. I updated the Firmware as soon as it hit the main menu. Damn Disney!

Now..what to do with an extra BH200?
post #659 of 1051
Quote:
Originally Posted by al0137 View Post

Uhh... Yeah.

I would call it "bad firmware" and LG has known about this issue for awhile now.

The "IC issue problem" cannot "be discussed". The firmware to fix is "on delay".

Sounds like a bunch of excuses and no resolution. I shall repeat, 'Up' and 'Monsters Inc.' are coming out on Tuesday and all BH-200 owners will have to revert to older firmware releases in order to play them (well, one can hope..). Funny eh.. the older firmware plays these discs and the new firmware breaks them.

Nah.. I wouldn't call that "bad firmware" at all sir.


Don't try the cherry-coat the problems and blame it on Disney changing the BD-Java code. That's a technical fact/reality that's been known for quite some time within the LG division. Blu-Ray authoring is constantly changing. It should of been fixed back in July/August at the very latest.

I'd love to smash this player into a thousand pieces but I was the fool and paid $600 some dollars for it. So, I guess I'm the idiot.

-a.


I thought the same thing but didn't want to sound churlish. It IS bad firmware when it breaks discs. Period. And, sorry, even if LG outsources firmware creation it's still LG's problem and responsibility (and their name on the product) to get it fixed and get it fixed promptly, something they've failed to do, repeatedly, in a reasonable time. (And something, it seems to be worth mentioning, other Blu-Ray manufacturers seem to do easily). Last time we were dealing with the BH200 and non-working discs (Casino Royale and Madagascar, to name two) it took LG more than a year, from each release, to put out a fix. Simply unacceptable.

We have a cheap-o Panasonic Blu-Ray player in the bedroom and it has never, not once, failed to play a Blu-Ray or SD disc, even those the BH200 balks at. I've updated it a grand total of one time (when we first got it). Not a single friend who has a Blu-Ray can relate to the non-playing disc experience. Other players just work. A problem made even more frustrating when I think what I paid for my TWO BH200s and its predecessor (now basically useless and hence on a shelf) the BH100. I made a SIGNIFICANT investment in these players (well North of $2,000), and HD DVD discs, and NEED it to work.
post #660 of 1051
Just tried playing Public Enemies on Blu RAy (UK version) I have all the latest firmwares...player recognises its a blu ray but just loads into a black screen with the display stuck at title 1???, anyone else having trouble with this disc...?
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