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post #751 of 1072
I notice a lot of people complaining about errors where they put discs in the tray and the machine reads disc error and spits it out. I've had this happen on a number of discs myself. However, I've found if I put a DVD in the machine and run it for a while and then stop the disc, open the tray and put in the blu-ray I got the error message on the disc will start playing right away without any problems. I have done this every time I have gotten a disc error with a blu-ray and it has worked every single time with that particular issue. I have never had one disc where I got a disc error that I was unable to play after doing this. In fact I've never had any blu-ray or HD discs that wouldn't play for me (although I did need to downgrade the firmware from Jun09 to Mar09 to play Crank 2 and Up). Maybe somebody else has already listed this workaround on the site but I haven't seen it anywhere.
post #752 of 1072
jhs39: That's a good tip. There was discussion very early on in HD DVD and/or BD that the memory management of certain players was a little leaky or poorly designed, and that by playing certain discs it tended to clear caches that would foul up other discs.

So it would appear that, in your case at least, and likely others if they try, the BH200 perhaps doesn't have ideal memory management, and that playing certain types of discs (like DVDs) will clear or remove those problems for certain other (BD) discs.

Thanks again for the tip!

shinksma
post #753 of 1072
Behold, a solution to the Disney/Buena Vista problem (at least for Up!). Courtesy of the persistent and industrious Actionable Mango in the BH200 Owners' Thread:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Actionable Mango View Post

No, don't bother, that has nothing to do with it. In fact, it's only a simple settings change.

It took me many hours of playing around with my regions, settings, cables, and even a few dollars to buy a 1GB stick to see if it was the 4GB stick or not. But now I am able to both break and fix "UP" compatibility on the June 2009 firmware in a 100% replicable manner.

Go to the BH200 setup > languages > disc menu.

Change the setting from "original" to "english".

Return to the home menu. Turn OFF the player. Turn it back on. Enjoy "UP" and possibly any other newer broken Disney titles.

Someone else please do this and confirm. Thanks.

I repeated it with BD-Live enabled and all is well.

GIZ, please add this to the first page. I can't believe you downgraded to the BH100, LOL.

EDIT: Monster's Inc (which I think also previously exhibited the same failure to load) is also resolved!
post #754 of 1072
Quote:
Originally Posted by jhs39 View Post

I notice a lot of people complaining about errors where they put discs in the tray and the machine reads disc error and spits it out. I've had this happen on a number of discs myself. However, I've found if I put a DVD in the machine and run it for a while and then stop the disc, open the tray and put in the blu-ray I got the error message on the disc will start playing right away without any problems.

Thanks for the tip, I'll have to try it out next time I have that problem. So far for me it's occurred with "Doomsday" and "Duplicity".

I had just assumed it's a bug for movies with titles that start with the letter "D" and end in "Y".
post #755 of 1072
Quote:
Originally Posted by jhs39 View Post

I notice a lot of people complaining about errors where they put discs in the tray and the machine reads disc error and spits it out. I've had this happen on a number of discs myself. However, I've found if I put a DVD in the machine and run it for a while and then stop the disc, open the tray and put in the blu-ray I got the error message on the disc will start playing right away without any problems. I have done this every time I have gotten a disc error with a blu-ray and it has worked every single time with that particular issue. I have never had one disc where I got a disc error that I was unable to play after doing this. In fact I've never had any blu-ray or HD discs that wouldn't play for me (although I did need to downgrade the firmware from Jun09 to Mar09 to play Crank 2 and Up). Maybe somebody else has already listed this workaround on the site but I haven't seen it anywhere.

I'll also thank you for this tip. I had this issue with Cadillac Records. I sent it back to Blockbuster and requested a replacement. Hopefully, the next disc won't have this issue.
post #756 of 1072
Just to report, I'm using lastest firmware from Internet and rent Angels & Demons BD.

I had to run audio in DTS-Recode over SPDIF (because of Dolby TrueHD soundtrack) to get 5.1 and guess what, I've experienced some AUDIO DROPS along the movie... let's say 4-5 of ½ sec each.

Nothing serious but oddly enough, I ran this firmware since let's say 6 months and this is the only movie I had audio drops. For example, bitrate intensive BD like Dark Night, Quantum, Bolt and Sunshine, no drops (not sure I've run them in SPDIF pass-thru or DTS-Recode thus).

Video runs thru HDMI from BH200 to PJ directly and didn't had any video drop. Also, since 6 months, I run a new PJ in native 1080p (previous was 720p) so I don't ask the BH200 to downscale HD/BD, which should help the unit to free up more ressource to playback I guess.

Anyway, I did'nt find any goods of the lastest firmware with BD-Live enabled. First, absolutly no title runs BD-Live because of the lack of memory (yeah I know I could use USB) and second, it apparantly cause new issues with new titles.

I plan to go back to un-official March 08 firmware that was the best for me and also that support BD-R/BD-RE I think, so I could possibly watch movie backup eventually!
post #757 of 1072
Just ran into a severe audio/video freeze with Ice Age Dawn of the Dinosaurs around the 52 minute 30 second mark. I have duplicated the issue with 2 BH200 players and also 2 different discs. I am using the firmware just prior to the introduction of BD-Live. Has anyone had any trouble with this disc. The only other discs to have had this happen are Sunrise Earth and Baraka.
post #758 of 1072
Very strange, this one happened to me also the second time through. When I played it from the beginning of the movie, it had what I would call an "audio hiccup," but nothing more than that. I noticed it, did a rewind, and then got an 8 second mess-up. Skipped back to the beginning of the chapter, and had the same thing. I downgraded from the BD-Live firmware a few weeks ago also - will upgrade the firmware and give it another go and will edit this post.

I had a pain getting this one to load - had to remove my usb stick, and then put it back in after getting a warning about not having the usb in, and then it downloaded its update and I can load the movie. Anyway, I also have the audio mess-up here. It ends at the 52:37 mark, and then there is no problem. Does anybody else have a different player they can test this one on?

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Originally Posted by jessej View Post

Just ran into a severe audio/video freeze with Ice Age Dawn of the Dinosaurs around the 52 minute 30 second mark. I have duplicated the issue with 2 BH200 players and also 2 different discs. I am using the firmware just prior to the introduction of BD-Live. Has anyone had any trouble with this disc. The only other discs to have had this happen are Sunrise Earth and Baraka.
post #759 of 1072
Lost season 5 wouldnt work on my BH200.

Followed the directions posted above about changing the language settings and BINGO


thanks
post #760 of 1072
has anyone gotten The Hangover to work? i tried for like 30 minutes with both of the last 2 firmware updates, swapped out both DVDs and HD DVDs to try to clear cache, and nothing. it was really embarrassing bc i had a girl over and she thought this player was a piece of garbage. had to explain to her the whole debacle of player incompatibilities these days.

Edit - yeah i tried the English language fix and it worked, just lame we have to keep jumping thru hoops.
post #761 of 1072
The Hangover worked just fine for me. Latest firmware with Actionable Mango's Fix. Set to PCM multi-channel over HDMI.
post #762 of 1072
Has anyone had problems with the Atonement HDDVD combo disc? I picked up the disc about a year ago and just finally tried to watch it last night. I could not get any audio out of the English 5.1 soundtrack. The French 5.1 soundtrack played fine, the 2-ch English Directors Comments came through fine, but nothing out of the main English soundtrack.

This problem was found on my main living room system with HDMI audio pass through to an Onkyo SR805, with the June 09 firmware installed. I power cycled, re-synced the HDMI, nothing seemed to work. I stopped short of unplugging the unit or doing a full factory reset.

On a side note, the English 5.1 soundtrack played fine from my bedroom system which is also a BH200, but with the audio output through optical cable to a non-HDMI receiver, also running an older (June 08?) firmware.

I will try a full reset tonight, but if that doesn't solve the problem, I think we have identified another issue with the June 09 firmware.
post #763 of 1072
Quote:
Originally Posted by billbillw View Post

Has anyone had problems with the Atonement HDDVD combo disc? I picked up the disc about a year ago and just finally tried to watch it last night. I could not get any audio out of the English 5.1 soundtrack. The French 5.1 soundtrack played fine, the 2-ch English Directors Comments came through fine, but nothing out of the main English soundtrack.

This problem was found on my main living room system with HDMI audio pass through to an Onkyo SR805, with the June 09 firmware installed. I power cycled, re-synced the HDMI, nothing seemed to work. I stopped short of unplugging the unit or doing a full factory reset.

On a side note, the English 5.1 soundtrack played fine from my bedroom system which is also a BH200, but with the audio output through optical cable to a non-HDMI receiver, also running an older (June 08?) firmware.

I will try a full reset tonight, but if that doesn't solve the problem, I think we have identified another issue with the June 09 firmware.

I tried unplugging the cord and re-initializing. Neither worked. I rolled back to the December firmware and it worked fine.

During the process, I also re-discovered a problem that I had forgotten about. My Dazed and Confused HDDVD Combo disc HD side would not play with the June 09 firmware. The DVD side worked fine. After rolling back to the December firmware, I'm happy to report that the HD side of Dazed now plays fine.
post #764 of 1072
Quote:
Originally Posted by billbillw View Post

Has anyone had problems with the Atonement HDDVD combo disc? I picked up the disc about a year ago and just finally tried to watch it last night. I could not get any audio out of the English 5.1 soundtrack. The French 5.1 soundtrack played fine, the 2-ch English Directors Comments came through fine, but nothing out of the main English soundtrack.

This problem was found on my main living room system with HDMI audio pass through to an Onkyo SR805, with the June 09 firmware installed. I power cycled, re-synced the HDMI, nothing seemed to work. I stopped short of unplugging the unit or doing a full factory reset.

On a side note, the English 5.1 soundtrack played fine from my bedroom system which is also a BH200, but with the audio output through optical cable to a non-HDMI receiver, also running an older (June 08?) firmware.

I will try a full reset tonight, but if that doesn't solve the problem, I think we have identified another issue with the June 09 firmware.

I have the same disc (US Atonement?). I'll try to check it out early next week.

Unfortunately for you my BH200 got moved to bedroom duty. It's now playing via optical. So, I'd have to move it back to where my BD370 is now to test the PCM over HDMI.

Are you bitstreaming Dolby TrueHD or doing multichannel PCM?

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Originally Posted by Ubertrout View Post

The Hangover worked just fine for me. Latest firmware with Actionable Mango's Fix. Set to PCM multi-channel over HDMI.

I never had any issues with my Hangover Blu-Ray rental (other than lack of extras) even w/o AM's fix. However, I always use PCM over HDMI, as my HK AVR 247 does not decode.
post #765 of 1072
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Originally Posted by jessej View Post

Just ran into a severe audio/video freeze with Ice Age Dawn of the Dinosaurs around the 52 minute 30 second mark. I have duplicated the issue with 2 BH200 players and also 2 different discs. I am using the firmware just prior to the introduction of BD-Live. Has anyone had any trouble with this disc. The only other discs to have had this happen are Sunrise Earth and Baraka.

i experieneced the same thing where buck is telling the story of rudy. it goes mute and alot of static in the audio for a couple of a secs around the time u mentioned. but thats only on the blu ray. on the dvd theres no problems
post #766 of 1072
Thanks for the tip RE: loading a regular DVD and then your Blu-Ray if the Blu-Ray won't play! I had the (Mexican indie sci-fi film) Sleep Dealer not even recognized by the player - ejected every time in both of the last two firmwares. Until I loaded a DVD, it wouldn't play.
post #767 of 1072
Yes, US Atonement (combo disc). I bitstream to my Onkyo SR805. I'm trying to remember for sure, but I think the problem went away when I switched to Multichannel PCM. The problem was only when I had it set to "pass-through"(bitstream).


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Originally Posted by allargon View Post

I have the same disc (US Atonement?). I'll try to check it out early next week.

Unfortunately for you my BH200 got moved to bedroom duty. It's now playing via optical. So, I'd have to move it back to where my BD370 is now to test the PCM over HDMI.

Are you bitstreaming Dolby TrueHD or doing multichannel PCM?
post #768 of 1072
Quote:
Originally Posted by billbillw View Post

Yes, US Atonement (combo disc). I bitstream to my Onkyo SR805. I'm trying to remember for sure, but I think the problem went away when I switched to Multichannel PCM. The problem was only when I had it set to "pass-through"(bitstream).

I can't verify that one. None of my receivers decode HD audio codecs.
post #769 of 1072
BH200 will play Crank 2, but leaves half of the loading yellow sign on throughout the whole film.

any clues or help?

Thanks
post #770 of 1072
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandwormed View Post

BH200 will play Crank 2, but leaves half of the loading yellow sign on throughout the whole film.

any clues or help?

Thanks

Yes. I had exactly this. Put a (empty 1GB etc.) USB memory stick in the port on the front, clear the bluray flash memory and start again. Mine downloaded an "update" and all was well.
post #771 of 1072
Does anyone know if the Canadian release for Atonement is the same as the US version? If it is I can try out the title and see if it is happening on my player. I currently have one player with the newest firmware and one with the older firmware.
post #772 of 1072
Mango's fix of setting the disc menu to English may help some of the problem HD DVD. My Italian import In the Land of Women would never player on my BH200 - the menu would load, but once your clicked Play, I would get a blank screen with the LCD counter stuck at 00:00. So I've always played it my on A2 which, because it's only 1080i, is hooked up to the 720p LCD in the den instead of my projector and HT system. Tried it last night now that I have the BH200 set to English disc menu and it played perfectly.

Quote:
Originally Posted by jessej View Post

Does anyone know if the Canadian release for Atonement is the same as the US version? If it is I can try out the title and see if it is happening on my player. I currently have one player with the newest firmware and one with the older firmware.

Yes, same as the US, a combo release. The UK release is HD DVD only.
post #773 of 1072
"Inglourious Basterds" and "Public Enemies" get stuck at menu loading with latest fw, even with Mango's settings. Using April '08 fw they both work fine.
Seems that Universal could be the new ones not working with latest fw?
Since such an old fw works fine, obviously it got broken since April '08. This can not be an issue of evolving Java, etc.
post #774 of 1072
Does anyone have a complete collection of firmware updates starting with April or March 2008 that they would be willing to send me or link to?
post #775 of 1072
TheBuyer

I do know that Inglorious Basterds works with the May 2009 firmware but that Public Enemies would not load as you said. I have also heard that Public Enemies will load with the most recent firmware (possibly not using Mango's workaround). I have the movie and will try to load it tonight as I watched Inglorious instead of Public Enemies when it would not load with May 2009 firmware.
post #776 of 1072
Public Enemies loaded just fine with the current firmware using the Disney workaround for me.
post #777 of 1072
Quote:
Originally Posted by jessej View Post

Public Enemies loaded just fine with the current firmware using the Disney workaround for me.

Thanks, I can not test it again, was a rental; I may have had the defaults.
post #778 of 1072
I have been having the same issues with TrueHD as many of you when the BH200 is set to PCM 5.1 channel. I found one way to work around this:

While the disc is playing, press display and navigate to the soundtrack. You can cycle throough the various soundtracks on the disc (English, French, etc.). If you cycle back to True HD, it comes out 5.1 channels and sounds fantastic (at least on my Marantz). The only time it will not work is with discs that have only the one soundtrack on it (a couple of my Disney titles are this way).

Sorry if this is posted elsewhere.
post #779 of 1072
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Originally Posted by fistofsouth View Post

I'm using the latest (June) firmware on my BH200 and I have had some problems with Lost Seasons 1 & 2.

Season 1: Disk 1 will not bring up the main menu so there is no way to play episodes from that disk. My workaround is to insert Disk 2 and select episodes from Disk 1, then insert Disk 1 when prompted and I have no issues and can even get to the main menu.

Season 2: Has the same issues and requires the same work around as season 1, but I get no audio. No audio on the disk menu, no audio during the episodes and changing the language or audio settings makes no difference.

Has anyone else had these problems? I'm thinking about reverting back to the previous firmware to see if that will help.

Update: I can now confirm that I have the same issue with Lost Season 5 that I had with season 2; can only play disks 1-3 by inserting disk 4 and selecting "Season Play", but I get no audio. What a PITA. Everytime I run into something like this it just reminds me of how much I wanted HD-DD to win the format war.
post #780 of 1072
Quote:
Originally Posted by fistofsouth View Post

Update: I can now confirm that I have the same issue with Lost Season 5 that I had with season 2; can only play disks 1-3 by inserting disk 4 and selecting "Season Play", but I get no audio. What a PITA. Everytime I run into something like this it just reminds me of how much I wanted HD-DD to win the format war.

Did you try setting the languages on the player from auto to english? It solved the Disney issue, maybe it will work for you.
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