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post #31 of 177
Yes. Sony S350 set to Auto for bd/sd discs.
post #32 of 177
Yes - well sort of.

Pioneer BDP-51FD > source direct 480i HDMI @ rgb 16-235 colorspace > Integra DTC-9.8 Silicon Optix Reon for upscaling. Great end result quality.
post #33 of 177
Currently Samsung BD-P1400 for blu-ray (I'm about to upgrade to the BD-P2500), and XBOX 360 (VGA) for SD/HD DVD.
post #34 of 177
Yes.

Been using my PS3 for both SD and Blu Ray disks with great results. I also have an older Denon 910 progressive scan player that I use on occassion and used for some comparisons. Doesn't hold a candle to the PS3 even when being upscaled by my Pioneer 92 thx receiver.
post #35 of 177
When my scaler was working, I used Oppo 981 SDI out @480i to Iscan HD, 960p72 to display. Now using 1080i to display via HDMI. Panasonic BD30 seems to work a little better than the Oppo via HDMI.


Oppo 981 DVD


Panasonic BD30 DVD


Panasonic BD30 BR
post #36 of 177
Yes, using Pana BD55 - connected via HDMI direct to a Pana 1080i Plasma.
post #37 of 177
I use my samsung bd-p1500 for bd only, as the sd dvd upconvert in my opinion is not as good as my hd A30 player. i have both hooked up via HDMI directly to my 40" samsung ln-t4065 lcd tv
post #38 of 177
Quote:
Originally Posted by N.B. Forrest View Post

Yes. Sony S350 set to Auto for bd/sd discs.

N.B. --
So, would you say that an SD DVD played on the S350 (to a 1080i HDTV) looks **appreciably** better than it does when played on an SD DVD player? I'd spring for an S350 if that were true.
post #39 of 177
Yes.

I have a Samsung BDP1500 which replaced an aging SD-player. I won't be running an extra player for SD up-conversion.
post #40 of 177
I use both Oppo for SD DVD's ( 983 & 981 ) and a BD-30 for BD's.
BTW, after the FW upgrade (V2.5), the SD upconversion in the Panny became amazingly good

Regards, Chuck
post #41 of 177
Are You Utilizing Your BD Player For SD Upconversion?

Hometheater
No. I am using my hd a2 for sd-dvd and for bluray I use sammy 1500 exclusively for bluray movies viewing it with 106 screen.

Master Br.
No also I am using hd-a30 for sd dvd and for bluray it is panny bd10a
connected to panny 50thz80u (plasma)
post #42 of 177
I wish the BD players would upconvert as well as the XA2 ... I'm considering the Panny BD55 if the price comes under $200 ... but I notice that two guys who have both (XA2 and BD55) use the XA2 for upconversion.

The XA2 is simply the best (SD) DVD player ever made. I wish the BD player manufactures would realize that most people have large librraries of SD DVD movies that we want to continue watching and we want the best of both worlds ... BD for HD movies and a top quality (Reon chip) upconverter for SD movies.
post #43 of 177
OK, Before I get bashed and this thread closed, I did a search.
All the results I got are mostly 6 months old.
Of the newer players which ones have upconversion worthy of Toshiba XA-2, which most of you know was great.

Thanks and I hope this stays open as I'm sure many others looking for a newr player have the same question.

scott
post #44 of 177
Best bet for near future is to pay close attention to the OPPO BDP-83 thread. By history OPPO has usually had the rep at having the best upconverting SD-DVD so it would make a bit of sense that their BD would have a similar quality.
post #45 of 177
Sammy 2550/2500 has the same Reon as the XA-2 although maybe not as many settings.
post #46 of 177
Any other comments on the newer players?

Scott
post #47 of 177
To date the oppo 983 is the only player to score a prefect 100% in the tests from the Secrets website.

I have the original oppo 971, a 983 and a PS3.

In my tests the 971 and the PS3 were just about equal in upconversion. The 983 is clearly superior and passes every test on the HQV Benchmark disc.

The oppo BDP-83 uses the same ABT chip as the 983 for de-interlacing and scaling. The 83, after months of beta testing is now in an EAP, (early adoption program). So far 50 units are in the hands of consumers. This past Friday an additional 300 units started shipping. Mine will ship on Monday. So far all reports are that the 83 is at least as good as the 983 for upconversion, with a few comments that the 83 does a better job.

With about a thousand DVD's in my collection it will be an interesting comparison.

The 83 also has a source direct mode which allows it to output whatever is the native format on a disc, allowing those with outboard video processors to play with their toys in pursuit of perfection.

Add SACD, DVD-A, HDCD and other support, my guess is that they will have a hard time keeping up with demand once general release starts.

Joe



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post #48 of 177
Quote:
Originally Posted by Avliner View Post

I use both Oppo for SD DVD's ( 983 & 981 ) and a BD-30 for BD's.
BTW, after the FW upgrade (V2.5), the SD upconversion in the Panny became amazingly good

Regards, Chuck

Chuck:
The 2.8 FW for the BD30 was released 3/9/09
post #49 of 177
Ok,

Most of my movie collection is still on dvd and I am very interested in getting the most out of that and one of the things I wanted was a bluray with good dvd upconversion technology.

It seems to be unaninmous that the Oppo player is the player that delivers this, but it was too expensive for me so I bought the LG 390 instead. I already own a Panasonic BD30 (which I will donate to my dad) and BD35 and a PS3 which I use only for gaming.

I own a 40 inch 1080p LCD and 50 inch plasma both by Samsung.

My question is:

How the heck do I tell good upconversion from bad upconversion or NO upconversion?

I have come to conclusion that NONE of the current bluray players seem to offer any difference in my DVD viewing experience. I have played with my old dvd player which had an option to turn off Progressive scan and I couldnt tell any difference with it on or off, nor could I tell any difference between 1080p or 480p. DVD just looked the same.

I have posted this same question on other forums, because I want a wide variety of answers.

If there is SOME way someone can prove that the Oppo offers dramatically better DVD upconversion, I will spend the extra $$$.

So far my view is upconversion is overrated and nothing more than a marketing gimmick.

Show me the error of my ways!
post #50 of 177
I think in your case its a comparison of your players scaler vs. your TV's scaler. In your case, the Samsung sets generally do a good job of scaling, hence no noticeable difference between 480p and 1080p, since your TV will automatically scale any and all images up to 1080p.

You're gonna have to try a really good scaling player (Oppo, HD-XA2, etc) and see if that works for you.
post #51 of 177
Quote:
Originally Posted by Merrick97 View Post

Ok,

Most of my movie collection is still on dvd and I am very interested in getting the most out of that and one of the things I wanted was a bluray with good dvd upconversion technology.

It seems to be unaninmous that the Oppo player is the player that delivers this, but it was too expensive for me so I bought the LG 390 instead. I already own a Panasonic BD30 (which I will donate to my dad) and BD35 and a PS3 which I use only for gaming.

I own a 40 inch 1080p LCD and 50 inch plasma both by Samsung.

My question is:

How the heck do I tell good upconversion from bad upconversion or NO upconversion?

I have come to conclusion that NONE of the current bluray players seem to offer any difference in my DVD viewing experience. I have played with my old dvd player which had an option to turn off Progressive scan and I couldnt tell any difference with it on or off, nor could I tell any difference between 1080p or 480p. DVD just looked the same.

I have posted this same question on other forums, because I want a wide variety of answers.

If there is SOME way someone can prove that the Oppo offers dramatically better DVD upconversion, I will spend the extra $$$.

So far my view is upconversion is overrated and nothing more than a marketing gimmick.

Show me the error of my ways!

See the links to the Progressive Scan Shootout articles in the OPPO FAQ: Is the DVD picture quality of this player amazingly better than any other player? Lots of explanatory text and example images.

-Bill
post #52 of 177
The HQV (Reon) chipset does wonders for both DVD and Blu-Ray. I suspect as new players come out trying to hit lower price points, the really good up-converting chipsets (HQV, Anchor Bay, etc.) will dropped or replaced by "generic" lower cost versions.
post #53 of 177
Currently using the Pioneer BDP-51FD for upconversion. I also have a Reon chip, but I like the Pioneer better for most DVDs.
post #54 of 177
Click on my signature if you want objective performance measures.
post #55 of 177
I am considering a new BluRay player purchase. The top feature I am interested in is the best upscaling of SD DVDs for viewing on an HDTV. Other features I am interested in would include WiFi, a USB port for a pen drive with videos on it, and netflix streaming.

I believe most BluRay players can handle home videos burned on a DVD-R which is a priority as well.

Could anyone give me, say - a top three list of brands or models I should be looking at - and should I be considering a PS3?

Thanks!

Ted
post #56 of 177
The Oppo BDP83 in my opinion has the best upscailing available. The picture often looks close to HD with this player. That being said I also own the Pioneer BD51 and it does a nice job of upscailing. The problem with the Pioneer is that it has man quirks including slow layer change and loading that may bother some. I don't fell the picture is as good as the Oppo's on SD disks but it is good. Other players that I have tried include the Panasonic BD30 and the Samsung 1500.
They were not in the class of the Oppo or even the Pioneer.
post #57 of 177
I have a Pioneer 51 output Source Direct to my DVDO Edge video processor, or I use my HTPC. Both yield fantastic results. I used to own an Oppo 983, but sold it to get my video processor, which has the same chip. I also have an Onkyo HD805 with Reon, in the bedroom.
post #58 of 177
Panasonic DMP-BD30 for Blu-ray, Oppo DV-983H for DVD.
post #59 of 177
Quote:
Originally Posted by rwestley View Post

I also own the Pioneer BD51 and it does a nice job of upscailing. The problem with the Pioneer is that it has man quirks including slow layer change and loading that may bother some.

Post firmware upgrade (1.38), there is no longer any layer change with the 51.
post #60 of 177
I used to have a Samsung 2550, excellent for upconversion. There was no difference between it and my Viewsonic Pro8100 projector with the HQV Reon. I generally let the Samsung do the work.

My new Sony s760 is not as good as the projector so I don't use it to upscale. Send 480i to the pj and let the Reon do it's magic.

And yes, there is a big difference between the Sony and the Pro8100 on a 106" screen.
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