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post #9781 of 9959
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Originally Posted by ReedTamaranda View Post

Ok, this might sound like a shot in the dark, but like most original WDTV owners, I can't playback DTS on .mkv files. I have tried converting to ac3, and occasionally it will work, but most of the time there are errors in the conversion and/or the file just won't play.

So I've been researching ways to encode/decode (sorry, I'm new to audio terminology) the DTS through an external device...basically I want the DTS to play through my stereo system via an external component.

I've found this: http://us.store.creative.com/Home-Th...002651ZEM.htm#

and from another forum, it seems like this would allow me to hear DTS tracks.

Do I have the right product or should I keep looking?


hey i had the same problem i couldn't play dts files apparently the model i had doesnt play it if you have the model WD00AVN give it back and get the WDBABF000NBK

i have that one now and can play everything even my mac formatted hdd
post #9782 of 9959
I have done a search of the thread and I can't find an answer to a question I have regarding BD rips. I have no problem with playing BD and DVD movie rips. Of course, the WD TV does not support DVD/BD menus. I have no real issue with this in principle. First, the WDTV cannot read .iso files (or so it seems), so dvd rips have to converted to a readable form (for example, .xvid). Second, while the WD TV reads .mts2 files without a problem, when it comes to watching epidsodes of T.V. shows ripped from bluray, I can't watch them in order. It seems to just play the largest file in a loop and there is no way to select a different episode. I have not yet tried to convert the .mts files to h.264 or some other format. If that would work, I would consider doing it--but I am not going to tie up my computer for 12 or 13 hours to convert a 42GB of BD content to H.264 only to find out that it's unreadable or doesn't fix the problem.

If there is a knock against this machine (that I love on the whole), this would be it! I have hundres of tv series on dvd and BD and the thought over converting them all to a different format is really irritating (and would probably melt my CPU!).

Any help from the resident experts will be greatly appreciated!!!!
post #9783 of 9959
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Originally Posted by set2374 View Post

I have done a search of the thread and I can't find an answer to a question I have regarding BD rips. I have no problem with playing BD and DVD movie rips. Of course, the WD TV does not support DVD/BD menus. I have no real issue with this in principle. First, the WDTV cannot read .iso files (or so it seems), so dvd rips have to converted to a readable form (for example, .xvid). Second, while the WD TV reads .mts2 files without a problem, when it comes to watching epidsodes of T.V. shows ripped from bluray, I can't watch them in order. It seems to just play the largest file in a loop and there is no way to select a different episode. I have not yet tried to convert the .mts files to h.264 or some other format. If that would work, I would consider doing it--but I am not going to tie up my computer for 12 or 13 hours to convert a 42GB of BD content to H.264 only to find out that it's unreadable or doesn't fix the problem.

If there is a knock against this machine (that I love on the whole), this would be it! I have hundres of tv series on dvd and BD and the thought over converting them all to a different format is really irritating (and would probably melt my CPU!).

Any help from the resident experts will be greatly appreciated!!!!

Since it seems size is not a issue with you, do what I just did for the True Blood series. I used AnyDVD and MakeMKV to extract the individual episodes, then renamed from title01.mkv to Episode Name.mkv (True Blood - s1e01 - Episode Name.mkv). Naming them like this keeps them in order and easier to identify.

With my Quad Core Q6600 and XP Pro I can rip out the full DVD in 45 min. - 1 Hr. It is quicker because there is no compression. One drawback is that MakeMKV extracts the DTS Core so there is not full DTS-HD audio in the file.
post #9784 of 9959
I posted this in the other WD TV Live thread, but since this one has more posts I thought I would put my experience with bitstreaming audio with the WDTV Live.

My receiver: Denon AVR 2310CI

Bottom Line: I have ONLY had success with Dolby TrueHD streaming when the the audio and video were in an M2TS container (no luck with MKV).

I've discovered this after failing many times with MKV files and I just played the original "M2TS" file and then I saw "Dolby TrueHD" across the TV screen as WDTV live always shows the audio stream, and then my receiver got the pretty blue light and then it said Dolby TrueHD. I'm not saying you can't play Dolby TrueHD from an MKV container, I'm saying that I was unsuccessful in doing so.

Regarding DTS-MA, when you play a file with DTS-MA inside a M2TS container, the audio codec will be correctly identified by the words "DTS-MA" across the TV screen, but your receiver will only recieve the DTS core, so my receivers says "DTS Surround." Now check this out...when I have DTS-MA inside a MKV container, the words "DTS" will appear across the screen, and my reciever still says "DTS Surround."

My Conclusions: For me, Dolby TrueHD streaming only works with M2TS containers. I literally remuxed an MKV into a M2TS and got the pretty blue light on my receiver. Therefore...my new drug of choice will be M2TS.

What do I use for muxing/remuxing? clownbd
It just makes it easy as it includes TSMuxer and EAC3T0
post #9785 of 9959
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Originally Posted by goodwad View Post

I posted this in the other WD TV Live thread, but since this one has more posts I thought I would put my experience with bitstreaming audio with the WDTV Live.

My receiver: Denon AVR 2310CI

Bottom Line: I have ONLY had success with Dolby TrueHD streaming when the the audio and video were in an M2TS container (no luck with MKV).

I've discovered this after failing many times with MKV files and I just played the original "M2TS" file and then I saw "Dolby TrueHD" across the TV screen as WDTV live always shows the audio stream, and then my receiver got the pretty blue light and then it said Dolby TrueHD. I'm not saying you can't play Dolby TrueHD from an MKV container, I'm saying that I was unsuccessful in doing so.

Regarding DTS-MA, when you play a file with DTS-MA inside a M2TS container, the audio codec will be correctly identified by the words "DTS-MA" across the TV screen, but your receiver will only recieve the DTS core, so my receivers says "DTS Surround." Now check this out...when I have DTS-MA inside a MKV container, the words "DTS" will appear across the screen, and my reciever still says "DTS Surround."

My Conclusions: For me, Dolby TrueHD streaming only works with M2TS containers. I literally remuxed an MKV into a M2TS and got the pretty blue light on my receiver. Therefore...my new drug of choice will be M2TS.

What do I use for muxing/remuxing? clownbd
It just makes it easy as it includes TSMuxer and EAC3T0

MANNNNNN.......you are one lucky man!!
I have the EVA9150 and cannot get audio for the life of me for TrueHD or DTSHD streams with .m2ts files via my Denon 3310.
Its killing me and driving me crazy!
As soon as I downconvert either format to its regular state then I'm ok but if I try to stream with the original audio I get nada.
Any thoughts or ideas?
post #9786 of 9959
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Originally Posted by piratemonkey View Post

MANNNNNN.......you are one lucky man!!
I have the EVA9150 and cannot get audio for the life of me for TrueHD or DTSHD streams with .m2ts files via my Denon 3310.
Its killing me and driving me crazy!
As soon as I downconvert either format to its regular state then I'm ok but if I try to stream with the original audio I get nada.
Any thoughts or ideas?

Based on the SPECS of the EVA9150 your situation is understandable as they don't list Dobly TrueHD or DTS-MA in the audio list. They do list AC3, DTS passthrough, and LPCM (but is it 5.1 passthrough?).

I have found experienced some weirdness confirmed on the Official AVS 2310CI thread about MY receiver and certain blue ray players. The issue is with DTS-MA and the receiver showing the decoding pretty blue lights...but no sound passing through. I have toggled on and off the HDMI control from the manual on screen menu setup (which is an uber cool feature to have), and sometimes this kinda works and the sound makes it (I'm still trying to regain cool points with the wife when....the first movie I tried to play with that new 2310CI receiver and my JVC Blueray player was Twlilight (her favorite)...and then no sound passed!!!!)

It's funny...as I now have very strong motivation to figure out how to convert all lossless audio (LPCM and DTS-MA) into Dolby TrueHD....Braveheart just sounds fan-figgin-tastic played through the WDTV Live and my Denon....now showing blue lights!!

Also..I just checked out your HT room...just break down and buy the WDTV Live so you can at least get Dolby TrueHD Streaming. Tell you what...if that new Popbox from the guys at popcorn hour bitstreams all the lossless codecs...I'll cut you a deal on my WDTV, but until I find another $120 solution to bitstream at least some or more HD audio...you'll have to pry it from my cold dead hands.

One more thing, my new found discovery changed the way I'm doing things. My plans are now to have 2 large External Hard Drives (2 x 2 TB ought to hold my favorite 100 lossless videos) attached to the WDTV Live that Power Up and Down with the WDTV Live. This will free up space on my file server...which I'm thinking of converting into a Windows 7 MCE DVR (QAM Cable + HD Homerun = good times). Even with all the overhead of MCE running and piping HDMI over Cat 6 to my TV's (hello Monoprice)...it should still have enough leg to serve up music and pictures and standard def videos. My original Xbox's running XBMC will serve up DVD's with menus and handle music and photo duty.

I spend hours banging my head on this lossless audio journey with WDTV live...now my experience shows up quick on an AVS Forum search...good luck to you all.
post #9787 of 9959
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Originally Posted by Derelict_Drvr View Post

Since it seems size is not a issue with you, do what I just did for the True Blood series. I used AnyDVD and MakeMKV to extract the individual episodes, then renamed from title01.mkv to Episode Name.mkv (True Blood - s1e01 - Episode Name.mkv). Naming them like this keeps them in order and easier to identify.

With my Quad Core Q6600 and XP Pro I can rip out the full DVD in 45 min. - 1 Hr. It is quicker because there is no compression. One drawback is that MakeMKV extracts the DTS Core so there is not full DTS-HD audio in the file.

Ok, I'll try it later and I let you know how it goes. I can live without the DTS HD. BTW, I do care about file size, but not enough to spend the hundreds of hours it would take to compress my video files. I have a lot of movies and tv shows ripped from my PVR and I have ripped about half of my DVD and BD movies and tv series (~800-1000 movies and tons of tv series). [I am probably significanly understating the size of the collection--I purchased about 6-10 DVD (now BDs) a month since 1999] I am not a techie, but I built my HTPC and learned some basic ripping skills TV because my wife was overwhelmed by the number of discs in the collection and wants to box them up (or throw them out--although that would end in divorce).

Do you know of any free software that will automatically remove the commercials from recorded tv shows?

Thanks for the help.
post #9788 of 9959
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Originally Posted by goodwad View Post

I posted this in the other WD TV Live thread, but since this one has more posts I thought I would put my experience with bitstreaming audio with the WDTV Live.

My receiver: Denon AVR 2310CI

Bottom Line: I have ONLY had success with Dolby TrueHD streaming when the the audio and video were in an M2TS container (no luck with MKV).

I've discovered this after failing many times with MKV files and I just played the original "M2TS" file and then I saw "Dolby TrueHD" across the TV screen as WDTV live always shows the audio stream, and then my receiver got the pretty blue light and then it said Dolby TrueHD. I'm not saying you can't play Dolby TrueHD from an MKV container, I'm saying that I was unsuccessful in doing so.

Regarding DTS-MA, when you play a file with DTS-MA inside a M2TS container, the audio codec will be correctly identified by the words "DTS-MA" across the TV screen, but your receiver will only recieve the DTS core, so my receivers says "DTS Surround." Now check this out...when I have DTS-MA inside a MKV container, the words "DTS" will appear across the screen, and my reciever still says "DTS Surround."

My Conclusions: For me, Dolby TrueHD streaming only works with M2TS containers. I literally remuxed an MKV into a M2TS and got the pretty blue light on my receiver. Therefore...my new drug of choice will be M2TS.

What do I use for muxing/remuxing? clownbd
It just makes it easy as it includes TSMuxer and EAC3T0

I haven't had luck with this either on my Pioneer 819 (not fancy but decodes DD TrueHD and DTS-MA). I heard somewhere (take with a grain of salt) that WD TV (any of them) will not bitstream DTS-MA because of licensing issues with DTS. I am not sure if this is true or not.
post #9789 of 9959
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Originally Posted by set2374 View Post

I haven't had luck with this either on my Pioneer 819 (not fancy but decodes DD TrueHD and DTS-MA). I heard somewhere (take with a grain of salt) that WD TV (any of them) will not bitstream DTS-MA because of licensing issues with DTS. I am not sure if this is true or not.

WD's website doesn't list the specs of DTS-MA and Dolby TrueHD, but I read through these threads like you and someone mentioned the licensing issue about DTS with DTS-MA. For the price of the WDTV Live, I am not surprised about not being able to stream DTS-MA, I think that it being able to stream DolbyTrueHD is worth $20 to me (said this because their are other network streamers out there that can be had for $100).

The following will display on your TV if you play an M2TS with Dolby TrueHD:
"Audio Channel DDTrueHD (Digital)"

The following will display on your TV if you play an M2TS with DTS-MA:
"Audio Channel DTSMA (Digital)"

BUT, your receiver will only receive the DTS Core even though the TV displayed otherwise, so my receiver displays "DTS Surround"

I can only speak to my experiences as the WDTV website doesn't even mention Dolby TrueHD and DTSMA. It may be worthwhile to mention that I installed the first firmware update to come out for the WDTV Live, but avoided the update that bricked several WDTV devices.
post #9790 of 9959
Everyone is making the leap of faith that it is streaming DTS core.
I believe it is downmixing the dts hd ma and NOT extracting the DTS core.
post #9791 of 9959
Can you please help me here? I have WD Media Player v2, I am using Denon 3808 receiver and projector. Everything works and looks great, but sometimes, when I play mkv file bluray rip with DTS sound it loses the sound and start playing, sort of, fast forwarding at x2, if I stop and play it again, it will play for a minute and will go back to that. I turn it off, turn it on and it works fine for the whole movie. Sometime I have to do it twice to get it to work. What the problem could be? I updated to 1.01.75...
post #9792 of 9959
Hello,

I have a WD HD Media Player for couple of weeks now. I am very satisfied with the quality of 1080P HD/BD Rips. But regular DVD Rip quality is poorer than I thought. I get much better quality video with my Xbox Media Center for DVDRips. Can anyone suggest any kind of tuning that can make the DVDRips look better like in XBMC?

Sorry, if I posted the question in the wrong place. If this was already discussed here, please point me to the right place.

Thanks in advance.

EDIT: Same law quality issue goes to DVD9 images as well. So, it is not a bad DVDRip issue.
post #9793 of 9959
Hello all,

After reading this thread and the thread for the WDTV Live, I purchased the WDTV version2. I didn’t need the networking since I would be using this straight to my lcd tv and receiver. Install was simple, and I like the way it looks(compact). I am having a problem though…

I have a lot of .mp4 videos and each one of them stutters(flickers) during playback. I tested a bunch of them and it is happening to all of them. Is there a fix for this or does WDTV just have problems playing .mp4 files? The firmware on mine is the one that ends in .70. As much as I like it, if it can’t play my .mp4 files, then its going to have to go back. Strangely, when I plug my external hdd to my ps3 it plays the .mp4 files fine with no problems.

I really hope there is a fix to this because I prefer not to stream my media, and love the fact that the WDTV allows the use of thumbnails. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
post #9794 of 9959
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Originally Posted by namyelus View Post

hey i had the same problem i couldn't play dts files apparently the model i had doesnt play it if you have the model WD00AVN give it back and get the WDBABF000NBK

i have that one now and can play everything even my mac formatted hdd

Whats with the different model numbers being able to do different things?
My model # is even different from those...Hmmmm
post #9795 of 9959
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Originally Posted by liquidmetal View Post

Everyone is making the leap of faith that it is streaming DTS core.
I believe it is downmixing the dts hd ma and NOT extracting the DTS core.

I'm not making a leap of anything. I just keep confirming...here's one more...I watched GI Joe recently (WDTV displayed "DTSMA", and my receiver displayed "DTS Surround")...and PLENTY of pop came from my two surrounds. Do I even have to talk about Trasformers 2 (wife talked about that one for days...)

What does your WDTV Live downmix to? Stereo? Do you have your audio output set to digital?

"Knowing is half the battle..."
post #9796 of 9959
No, I believe it is downmixing to DTS 5.1, but it is not extracting the core.
Try both ways and see for yourself. Extract the core yourself and compare
to dts hd ma track.
post #9797 of 9959
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Originally Posted by liquidmetal View Post

No, I believe it is downmixing to DTS 5.1, but it is not extracting the core.
Try both ways and see for yourself. Extract the core yourself and compare
to dts hd ma track.

Interesting...

I'll give it a go...probably with Transformers 2. I'll pick it off the core, and remux with both DTS-MA and the Core as a second audio stream...while I'm at it...might as well throw in an AC3 version just for fun...and switch audio streams from the options menu. Will be a weekend gig though, the big game is about to start.

Do you know how I can convert raw LCPM to Dolby TrueHD?
post #9798 of 9959
What do you guys do with srt files?? does clownbd automatically convert them also?
post #9799 of 9959
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Originally Posted by csrini1 View Post

What do you guys do with srt files?? does clownbd automatically convert them also?

I leave them as an external subtitle file with avi's, or mux them into an mkv with MKVmerge I haven't tried it, but you might be able to mux them into an m2ts file with TSmuxer, but I don't know. I have a couple of avi files, and m2ts bluray files, I might try tomorrow just to see if it works.
post #9800 of 9959
Not sure where the best place is to post this, but with my new love for this device, I went out and picked up a WD external USB drive (My Book Essential) and I'm looking to get a Blu-ray player for my PC so that I can rip and store them locally and the wife can play them as she wants without having to dig up the discs.

That said, can anyone suggest a good software for the PC to rip BDs to use with this device and also, although I'm sure I can find one through Newegg, a good PC BD player for the ripping?

Thanks in advance!
post #9801 of 9959
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Originally Posted by Nogavs View Post

Not sure where the best place is to post this, but with my new love for this device, I went out and picked up a WD external USB drive (My Book Essential) and I'm looking to get a Blu-ray player for my PC so that I can rip and store them locally and the wife can play them as she wants without having to dig up the discs.

That said, can anyone suggest a good software for the PC to rip BDs to use with this device and also, although I'm sure I can find one through Newegg, a good PC BD player for the ripping?

Thanks in advance!

If you are running Windows, the only purchased sofware you will need is AnyDVD HD. There are 3 freeware programs to use, depending on if you want to compress the video or not.

1st is MakeMKV. You can directly rip BD to an MKV file and then compress with:

2nd is Handbrake. With this you can compress and change the audio to a stereo track if you want.

3rd is TSmuxer. Use this one to rip out the movie only (MakeMKV does the same thing, except it is in an mkv container) and keep the original m2ts file format. TSmuxer is best for converting BD's with multiple m2ts files to a single m2ts file.

As far as a Bluray player goes, unless you also want a burner, they are all about the same. Players such as Plextor and Pioneer are better quality, but they have a higher cost also.
post #9802 of 9959
Don't know if this is the correct thread for this question.

I want to get a portable Hard drive for my WD TV HD Media Player. Any suggestions? What drives are reliable and which ones shouls I stay away from.

Thanks.
post #9803 of 9959
I am having a problem with my WD TV live. I am trying to watch .iso rips of 2 different blu-rays the audio showed up as 1:1 DD TrueHD and i get no sound.

My receiver is a Pioneer SC-25

The Blu-ray plays fine in my Sony s360

By the way other Blu-rays and dvds play fine as .iso but the audio shows up as AC3 or DTS.

Any ideas
post #9804 of 9959
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Originally Posted by rxtrom View Post

I am having a problem with my WD TV live. I am trying to watch .iso rips of 2 different blu-rays the audio showed up as 1:1 DD TrueHD and i get no sound.

My receiver is a Pioneer SC-25

The Blu-ray plays fine in my Sony s360

By the way other Blu-rays and dvds play fine as .iso but the audio shows up as AC3 or DTS.

Any ideas

This might be a silly question, but does your receiver decode Dolby TrueHD? That is where I would start.
post #9805 of 9959
Yes it can decode Dolby TrueHD

here are the specs. http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PU...-25.Kuro?tab=B

Thanks for the help
post #9806 of 9959
I could not tell the difference between bitstreaming the DTSMA track from WDTV Live and bitstreaming the DTS Core I extracted as a 2nd stream (ran TSMuxer from command line with -core switch).

In both cases, my receiver read "DTS Surround." In the case of the DTS-MA, the WDTV Live displayed "DTSMA", in the case of the DTS Core Audio Track, WDTV Live displayed "DTS."

My ears are not the best, and my speakers are 4xTSB, 1 TC2, and a T300 from The Speaker Company (May they Rest In Peace).

If WDTV live is "downmixing" the DTS-MA track, it is downmixing to 5.1, and sounds just like the DTS Core to my ears.
post #9807 of 9959
Wow, this thread moves so fast, it's insane trying to keep up!

I asked this before but in too general of a question so I thought I'd try again.

One of my goals to ease the issues with the wife and kid is to rip Blu-rays over to a new external WD HD I hooked up to the WD TV HD set.

From reading, it seemed AnyDVD HD was quite popular, so I just bought that as well as an internal BD player for my PC.

In reading that burning to .iso is a nice clean method, the issue with WD TV HD box is that it can't play chapters that way or move around at all other than playing it from start to finish.

If that is the case, can anyone point me to a link (there are so many, each with their own bend) or explain what I should do with AnyDVD HD to rip a Blu-ray we own such that it is easiest for WD TV HD to play and also removes all the stuff but the movie?

THANKS!
post #9808 of 9959
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Originally Posted by Nogavs View Post

Wow, this thread moves so fast, it's insane trying to keep up!

I asked this before but in too general of a question so I thought I'd try again.

One of my goals to ease the issues with the wife and kid is to rip Blu-rays over to a new external WD HD I hooked up to the WD TV HD set.

From reading, it seemed AnyDVD HD was quite popular, so I just bought that as well as an internal BD player for my PC.

In reading that burning to .iso is a nice clean method, the issue with WD TV HD box is that it can't play chapters that way or move around at all other than playing it from start to finish.

If that is the case, can anyone point me to a link (there are so many, each with their own bend) or explain what I should do with AnyDVD HD to rip a Blu-ray we own such that it is easiest for WD TV HD to play and also removes all the stuff but the movie?

THANKS!

AnyDVD simply removes the copy protection in place on Standard DVD and Bluray discs.

For Bluray, after AnyDVD recognizes the disc, right click on the Fox icon in your system tray and choose "Rip Video DVD to Harddisk". Save the files on your largest HDD in your computer (avoid externals). From there install MakeMKV. When you run MakeMKV, after it does its initial scan, click on "File" --> "Open file" and navigate to your folder for the movie. Open the folder and click on "MoveObject" then click "Open". After the open dialog box closes, you can start the rip. MakeMKV will come up with a window of all the titles on the disc. Uncheck all but the title with the most chapters and largest file size. Usually the first title, but not always

I have found that not all BD discs will let you save the chapter information, and I haven't figured out how to get chapters in those discs. However, you can stop the movie in mid-play, and if you do not unplug the unit/HDD, you can restart the movie where you left off. One way to do this is to arrow down to "Recent" under "All Movies" (I have the Live version, so it might be different on the HD) and choose the movie you were watching. When prompted, arrow right to "OK" and press "Enter". That will resume the movie where you left off.
post #9809 of 9959
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Originally Posted by Derelict_Drvr View Post

AnyDVD simply removes the protection in place on Standard DVD and Bluray discs.

For Bluray, after AnyDVD recognizes the disc, right click on the Fox icon in your system tray and choose "Rip Video DVD to Harddisk". Save the files on your largest HDD in your computer (avoid externals). From there install MakeMKV. When you run MakeMKV, after it does its initial scan, click on "File" and navigate to your folder for the movie. Open the folder and click on "MoveObject" then click "Open". After the open dialog box closes, you can start the rip.

I have found that not all BD discs will let you save the chapter information, and I haven't figured out how to get chapters in those discs.


Thanks for the quick response. I'll download MakeMKV in a sec (darn NFL football getting in the way :P)

I guess when they can't have chapters, I'll tell them to just fast forward Sometimes they like to just quickly watch a part of a movie the kid likes while eating or whatever so chapters are nice but still better than having discs all over the floor and the rest of the mess so having it all on HD is great.

BTW, I am assuming that the conversion from ISO to MKV doesn't lose any quality?

Also, is it within Any DVD HD or MakeMKV that I could remove the trailers and other stuff that come with some discs? Sounds like the MakeMKV program? I'll google it more.
post #9810 of 9959
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BTW, I am assuming that the conversion from ISO to MKV doesn't lose any quality?

No. MakeMKV does a 1:1 rip. No compression.

BTW, you talk about ISO's. I am not sure MakeMKV will rip the movie out of an ISO. I will have to create one and check it out.
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