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post #151 of 1923
Hey guys! Just joined the Vudu family thanks to the wife. So far I just che3cked out the HDX demo which looks pretty great.

Is there an alternative to the IR remote adapter from Vudu? $40 seems a bit steep for a cable just to use the harmony.
post #152 of 1923
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Originally Posted by dink View Post

New Vudu owner, my family bought me one of the vudu boxes and am pretty enthused to get started. It ran thru the setup, did the network settings, i did the activation and showed my $100 credit plus $200 from bestbuy for a total of $300 credits and its been sitting at the "loading the latest content" screen for probably close to two hours.

Is this normal?

Also, it says do not unplug or turn off your box so im kinda in limbo here. doesnt look like the content (Progress) bar has moved in the past 2 hours either.

Are you seeing any network activity on your LAN/Router?
post #153 of 1923
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Are you seeing any network activity on your LAN/Router?

Yea but ive got so many things on the lan and running it could be anything. I just read on the vudu forum that it sometimes happens and a reboot should fix it, so here we go :-)
post #154 of 1923
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Yea but ive got so many things on the lan and running it could be anything. I just read on the vudu forum that it sometimes happens and a reboot should fix it, so here we go :-)

Yeah, that is what I was going to tell you to do next. Should be OK.
post #155 of 1923
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Originally Posted by darryl b View Post

anyone care to comment on their opinion of how vudu compares to appletv? i mean which is the most fun? which one can really replace blockbuster?

Unfortunately until the date windowing issues get straightened out neither will be a replacement for Blockbuster or Netflix (physical not streaming).

As for AppleTV vs. Vudu, AppleTV is really an extension to the Apple eco-system. I have several and honestly what I find I use them for mostly are music, photos and kids TV programs (I have a 3 and 5 year old). I haven't had satellite TV service in four years, so I do buy a lot of TV and rent a few movies for myself from iTunes but for whatever reason I end up watching those shows on my laptop or iPhone instead of on my AppleTVs.
post #156 of 1923
Well after about a week of owning vudu there are few things I am really unhappy about. I know ATV, Netflix/Blockbuster all have their faults, I also own ATV and ive rented via PS3 and XBOX360 both and so far I think my favorite would be ATV. Seems like the movies are generally available faster from ATV. Also, I love the quality of HDX but why are the options so extremely limited? I hate that you cant buy an HDX. In fact, why is your purchasing of any HD movie so severely restricted on vudu? I know the number say differently but it sure seems like there are more HD movies available for purchase via ATV, am i wrong about that? All in all, i am happy i got it as a xmas gift but I would have trouble recommending it over ATV for streaming.

I hope over the coming months movies become available faster and HD/HDX titles increase dramatically or i just dont see vudu surviving.
post #157 of 1923
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Originally Posted by dink View Post

Well after about a week of owning vudu there are few things I am really unhappy about. I know ATV, Netflix/Blockbuster all have their faults, I also own ATV and ive rented via PS3 and XBOX360 both and so far I think my favorite would be ATV. Seems like the movies are generally available faster from ATV. Also, I love the quality of HDX but why are the options so extremely limited? I hate that you cant buy an HDX. In fact, why is your purchasing of any HD movie so severely restricted on vudu? I know the number say differently but it sure seems like there are more HD movies available for purchase via ATV, am i wrong about that? All in all, i am happy i got it as a xmas gift but I would have trouble recommending it over ATV for streaming.

I hope over the coming months movies become available faster and HD/HDX titles increase dramatically or i just dont see vudu surviving.


Hi Dink,

I believe you'll find that no digitally-delivered service offers HD content for purchase, Apple included. This is currently a restriction of the licensing studios. We're hopeful that the situation will improve over the next year or so. We don't offer HD for sale because we're not allowed to do so. Regarding the number of HD titles, I believe that you'll find that we have the largest HD movie collection anywhere, including Blu-ray.
post #158 of 1923
The biggest things on my wish list from Vudu are:

1. Improved Online Software: I would like to see software that would allow, putting movies in the wish list on the web site, as well as an easier movie browsing and searching experience. Check Netflix to see how it is done.

2. Ability to stream HDX if bandwidth allows. I always want to rent HDX, but some times, I don't get them ordered in time. I have a fast connection, but we are limited to 4mb download.

3. New box with advanced audio support, and titles to match. Would love Dolby Tru-HD etc.

4. D-Box Motion Codes Compatibility
post #159 of 1923
I agree with the higher resolution audio - in order to move me off of blu ray - I would like to see high resolution audio. With a netflix subscription I can get unlimited blu ray and i do not sacrifice audio or video quality. i would think that for Vudu to compete they would have to at least offer comparable quality to bluray for audio and video. Considering that the cost of the service is much higher than Netflix - I would assumme that you could get comparable quality.
post #160 of 1923
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Originally Posted by Richard Tywoniak View Post

I agree with the higher resolution audio - in order to move me off of blu ray - I would like to see high resolution audio. With a netflix subscription I can get unlimited blu ray and i do not sacrifice audio or video quality. i would think that for Vudu to compete they would have to at least offer comparable quality to bluray for audio and video. Considering that the cost of the service is much higher than Netflix - I would assumme that you could get comparable quality.

Right now the movies are encoded in DD+, but the box can not output DD+, this is somewhat upsetting but they are first gen boxes. The HDX movies are 640K which is within BD specs and is how early WB disc were encoded. They sound great, much better than DVD but not as great as some BDs and HD DVDs (DD+, DDTHD, DTS-HD, DTS-HD MA)
The Vudu Box is 99.00 this week or 149.00 wirth a wireless kit. That is the same as 3-6 BDs. This is a great deal, so much so my wife told me to order another one for the bedroom because she is annoyed with the ATV there and does not like to use the XBOX or PS3 to rent movies. Vudu is, in my opinion,
the best VOD service today and I have them all. This is well worth the entry price he are asking.
If you don't like it the they have a 30 day return policy. But I doubt you will be returning it. It is a great suppliment to BD. I use it to rent movies that I am in the mood for and don't have to wait until I am no longer in the mood to receive them. I still buy the occasional BD and still get some from Netflix. But Vudu has become my primary source for movie watching.

Give it a try you won't be dissapointed.
post #161 of 1923
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Originally Posted by Kikar View Post

Right now the movies are encoded in DD+, but the box can not output DD+, this is somewhat upsetting but they are first gen boxes. The HDX movies are 640K which is within BD specs and is how early WB disc were encoded. They sound great, much better than DVD but not as great as some BDs and HD DVDs (DD+, DDTHD, DTS-HD, DTS-HD MA)
The Vudu Box is 99.00 this week or 149.00 wirth a wireless kit. That is the same as 3-6 BDs. This is a great deal, so much so my wife told me to order another one for the bedroom because she is annoyed with the ATV there and does not like to use the XBOX or PS3 to rent movies. Vudu is, in my opinion,
the best VOD service today and I have them all. This is well worth the entry price he are asking.
If you don't like it the they have a 30 day return policy. But I doubt you will be returning it. It is a great suppliment to BD. I use it to rent movies that I am in the mood for and don't have to wait until I am no longer in the mood to receive them. I still buy the occasional BD and still get some from Netflix. But Vudu has become my primary source for movie watching.

Give it a try you won't be dissapointed.

Me and my three VUDU boxes also agree!
post #162 of 1923
I would get another one if it would let me transfer movies between boxes.
post #163 of 1923
Whoa, the Vudu box is only $99?
I was seriously looking to buy one for Christmas at regular price.
Why the sharp (and sudden) price drop though?
This isn't a firesale due to low sales I hope. Or is it to move existing stock to make way for an upgraded player?

For $99 I'm tempted, but I don't want to invest in tech that might not be around tomorrow.
What's the consensus on the price drop?
post #164 of 1923
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Originally Posted by SuperGrafx View Post

Whoa, the Vudu box is only $99?
I was seriously looking to buy one for Christmas at regular price.
Why the sharp (and sudden) price drop though?
This isn't a firesale due to low sales I hope. Or is it to move existing stock to make way for an upgraded player?

For $99 I'm tempted, but I don't want to invest in tech that might not be around tomorrow.
What's the consensus on the price drop?

The price is consistant with all the "specials" for the last quarter:

Best Buy - $299 with $200 in movie credits, so the hardware was $99

Vudu Special 1 - $149 with $50 in movie credits, so the hardware was $99

Vudu Special 2 - $99 with no movie credits, so the hardware is $99

Face it, were talking a motherboard and a hard drive, plus a remote control, and the Vudu business model is definitely a "give away the razors and sell the blades" proposition. Heck, even if they ever go under (which I don't think is going to be happening), you'll still have a 250GB SATA hard drive you can repurpose.
post #165 of 1923
i agree on the business model - at 4.99 a pop for hd movie rental - they can give away the boxes. They have a recurring revenue business model and download rentals are how they are going to make money in the future. The apple and netflix boxes are/have been pretty cheap. Also the game boxes have been throwing in download capabilities for free. I have heard that Apple has pulled back from their Apple TV box as it is not generating revenue. In the end - a recurring revenue model seems to be the only reliable business model here. If Vudu can get people hooked on downloading movies they may have a chance to survive
post #166 of 1923
For all you VUDU users. Are downloads available as soon as DVD/BluRay availability? How about DirecTV availability. I am trying to determine which service has the earliest availability for new releases
post #167 of 1923
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Originally Posted by Richard Tywoniak View Post

i agree on the business model - at 4.99 a pop for hd movie rental - they can give away the boxes.

Well I think the pricing is variable but most movies I've rented either in HD or HDX were $3.99.



To Vudu representatives:

Can you or someone else here let me know why I'm getting significantly slower download speed. My connection is wired and it's Cox premium at 25 mbit/s. Everything else pretty much flies but Vudu still takes me 9 hours to download an HDX movie. Is this a cap on the side of Vudu servers?

I would really like to see this cap go away if you charge for the box.

Also, my suggestion would be to update your Wifi Kit to an N-standard. If I wanted to stream HD movies via my wifi G has somewhat bottlenecks.


Thank you.
post #168 of 1923
Are you sure your VUDU is set for the max download bandwidth of 4mbs? Go into the service quality section and double check.

The VUDU box is capped at 4mbs. An HDX title typically takes my three boxes 3.5 to 4.5 hours to download depending on the length of the movie.

One of the things I hope they have planned for the future is an increase in the download speed. Of course instant HDX would be great, but at least cutting the download time of HDX titles in half would be welcome. So increasing the download speed to 8mbs would hopefully accomplish that.

VUDU has changed alot since I got it a year ago. Each software update brings more improvements. They certainly aren't sitting still.The box keeps evolving into something better and better.
post #169 of 1923
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

Are you sure your VUDU is set for the max download bandwidth of 4mbs? Go into the service quality section and double check.

The VUDU box is capped at 4mbs. An HDX title typically takes my three boxes 3.5 to 4.5 hours to download depending on the length of the movie.

One of the things I hope they have planned for the future is an increase in the download speed. Of course instant HDX would be great, but at least cutting the download time of HDX titles in half would be welcome. So increasing the download speed to 8mbs would hopefully accomplish that.

VUDU has changed alot since I got it a year ago. Each software update brings more improvements. They certainly aren't sitting still.The box keeps evolving into something better and better.

Aaron,

What speed is your provider? I just learned I can upgrade to 50Mbps service from my provider but hesitate if I can only use 4 Mbps from VUDU. I suppose a 15 Mbps service is plenty adequate now for VUDU. (I don't have VUDU yet ... but it is a near term plan)

Kevin
post #170 of 1923
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Originally Posted by kevivoe View Post

Aaron,

What speed is your provider? I just learned I can upgrade to 50Mbps service from my provider but hesitate if I can only use 4 Mbps from VUDU. I suppose a 15 Mbps service is plenty adequate now for VUDU. (I don't have VUDU yet ... but it is a near term plan)

Kevin

I have 50mbs service from FIOS.
post #171 of 1923
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Originally Posted by Richard Tywoniak View Post

For all you VUDU users. Are downloads available as soon as DVD/BluRay availability? How about DirecTV availability. I am trying to determine which service has the earliest availability for new releases

Vudu has same day (DVD Tuesday) availability for purchase as DVD/BluRay for most new release titles. Day 1 is typically purchase, with rental also being available on day 1 for some studios (i.e Warner typically), while other studios defer rental options until 2-4 weeks later.

If you are into movies, Vudu has the largest HD movie catalog in the market, so for a great many titles Vudu has superior availability to BR, as there are lots of HD/HDX movies on Vudu that have never (and may never) hit BR. From a catalog comparison perspective, Vudu has over 1,400 HD titles (out of almost 13,000 total titles), while BR has a littl over 800 movie titles. When you compare the catalogs side by side, there are about 250 HD movies available on both BR and Vudu, with MGM being the major studio behind Vudu's var superior HD catalog.
post #172 of 1923
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Originally Posted by nded View Post

Vudu has same day (DVD Tuesday) availability for purchase as DVD/BluRay for most new release titles. Day 1 is typically purchase, with rental also being available on day 1 for some studios (i.e Warner typically), while other studios defer rental options until 2-4 weeks later.

Could you provide a link showing the ability to purchase a VUDU HD/HDX version of these new movies being released 1/6 on DVD/BD

Rightous Kill
Pineapple Express
Disaster Movie
Wackness
Bangkok Express

I don't seem to find anything.
post #173 of 1923
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Originally Posted by vikingfan View Post

Could you provide a link showing the ability to purchase a VUDU HD/HDX version of these new movies being released 1/6 on DVD/BD

Rightous Kill
Pineapple Express
Disaster Movie
Wackness
Bangkok Express

I don't seem to find anything.

He was talking about SD. SD is purchase day and date. You won't be able to purchase the HD titles from anyone.
post #174 of 1923
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He was talking about SD. SD is purchase day and date. You won't be able to purchase the HD titles from anyone.

This Vikingfan guy is "stalking" me on multiple forums purely for the purpose of running a smear campaign against Vudu supporters. Trust me, nothing you could tell him about Vudu would satisfy his hatred. For some reason he resents Vudu supporters spreading the news about why they like the product. He's just trying to start another fight here - I'll put him on my Ignore list here also (and I encourage everyone else to do the same), but he really needs to understand that this type of behavior is not appropriate.
post #175 of 1923
point of order

This is unacceptable: we will ban any members from this thread if this situation continues
post #176 of 1923
2-4 weeks AFTER normal release to rent some HD titles? Am I understanding this correct??
post #177 of 1923
Back to Vudu - it appears that they have HD or HDX rental availability similar to what you would see at your local blockbuster or netflix. The reason I ask this or make this point is that VUDU seems like a good back up option to me for Netflix. The problem with Netflix is the issue with new releases on BluRay. All new releases seem to hit the Long or Very Long wait status. Many times this is not an issue - it eventually comes. However - if I had a $99 Vudu box - if I really want to watch and not wait - Vudu is a really viable option. And - for $99 - this is now entering into the - it can not hurt purchase decision. Vudu seems to be offering a compelling option for me to consider. Now if VUDU could only offer High Resolution audio (i.e. DTSMA 7.1), BluRay quality video, and a Netflix-subscription model - and the ability to hold a movie on my hard drive for more than 24 hours - then that would be a Netflix/BluRay killer for me. However, for right now - Vudu seems like a pretty inexpensive back up for me - prevents me from getting in my car to go to the local video store.
post #178 of 1923
VUDU compliments Netflix nicely.

Although no way to ever get DTS-MA with the current box since it uses HDMI 1.1.
I currently have three boxes. For me to purchase another one they would need to come out with a new box with HDMI 1.3 so the current DD+ could be bitstreamed instead of being transcoded to DD.

But either way I'm using my VUDUs more and more. I don't rent any discs any more so I only use Netflix for streaming. For BD titles, now i either purchase them or rent the HDX version on VUDU.
Which reminds me. i need to log into my VUDU account online so I can have the HDX version of Babylon AD ready for me to watch when I get home tonight. Today is the first day it was available.
post #179 of 1923
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Originally Posted by markrubin View Post

point of order

This is unacceptable: we will ban any members from this thread if this situation continues

I'm sorry Nded thinks I'm stalking him. The VUDU homepage does not allow catalog searches if your not a registered owner. I did not see any HD/HDX options for these movies. When he said most titles were available to own on the same day the dvd/bd is released, I thought that might be info that non-vudu owners couldn't see. The delayed rental window,price of rentals and non-availability of HD versions for some films, is why I won't purchase a VUDU box. So if this practice had started to change, it might make the service more appealing.
post #180 of 1923
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Originally Posted by Richard Tywoniak View Post

Back to Vudu - it appears that they have HD or HDX rental availability similar to what you would see at your local blockbuster or netflix. The reason I ask this or make this point is that VUDU seems like a good back up option to me for Netflix. The problem with Netflix is the issue with new releases on BluRay. All new releases seem to hit the Long or Very Long wait status. Many times this is not an issue - it eventually comes. However - if I had a $99 Vudu box - if I really want to watch and not wait - Vudu is a really viable option. And - for $99 - this is now entering into the - it can not hurt purchase decision. Vudu seems to be offering a compelling option for me to consider. Now if VUDU could only offer High Resolution audio (i.e. DTSMA 7.1), BluRay quality video, and a Netflix-subscription model - and the ability to hold a movie on my hard drive for more than 24 hours - then that would be a Netflix/BluRay killer for me. However, for right now - Vudu seems like a pretty inexpensive back up for me - prevents me from getting in my car to go to the local video store.

Having recently joined VUDU, I can tell you that it is a great back up. I cannot tell you how many times I have just decided to order movies on whim (and this coming from a non renter). In fact, I look forward to the day it evolves some more and hopefully takes a bigger share of my HI-DEF purchases/rentals.
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